Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[SilentSonicBoom]

Some useful info on hosting I received from email inquiry,

Hello Sam,

Just a quick couple questions for the recent hosting announcements, if we've previously selected shipping with our order can we change that to hosting?

Also do you expect hosting to be operational at the same time of the original shipments in September?


Hi,

There will be an option to use the shipping payment towards hosting fees when we start taking payments for hosting closer to the shipment start.

Orders that are expected to be shipped a certain week will also be ready for hosting that week.

 
Thanks
Emilia

Nice information to have. Let's hope these ship in September. The sooner, the better, for those of us that have preorders in

[ujka]

...
one question
if u choose hosting u don't pay shipping, electricity and VAT 
(u will pay VAT when u decide to import hw in ur country, right?)

If the goods are not exported, local VAT apply.

You can zero-rate the sale, provided you get and keep evidence of the export, and comply with all other laws. You must also make sure the goods are exported, and you must get the evidence, within three months from the time of sale

[kano]

Just a little bit of info regarding KnC
They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information.

They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to.

I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon.

I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens

I've been waiting 5 days for a reply (to an email I sent Marcus and Sam) from KnC about their status ... still no response ...

Could it be that they do not want to answer you, until they have a exactade shipping date. To not lie.
But next Tuesday not have answer would be a bit worrying.

I do not want you to think I'm a Fanboy. I acknowledge the work done by ckolivas and you.

Could be.
But I really just asked for a status update coz we hadn't heard from them since the end of May.
They were also the ones who contacted us originally, not the other way around.

Got a reply 10 minutes ago.
Things are moving forward.
It seems KnC is indeed rather hectic at the moment, as one would expect, but still within their recent time frame update.

[Phoenix1969]

Thanks Kano... Semper-Fi

[titomane]

Just a little bit of info regarding KnC
They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information.

They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to.

I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon.

I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens

I've been waiting 5 days for a reply (to an email I sent Marcus and Sam) from KnC about their status ... still no response ...

Could it be that they do not want to answer you, until they have a exactade shipping date. To not lie.
But next Tuesday not have answer would be a bit worrying.

I do not want you to think I'm a Fanboy. I acknowledge the work done by ckolivas and you.

Could be.
But I really just asked for a status update coz we hadn't heard from them since the end of May.
They were also the ones who contacted us originally, not the other way around.

Got a reply 10 minutes ago.
Things are moving forward.
It seems KnC is indeed rather hectic at the moment, as one would expect, but still within their recent time frame update.

Thanks any new is good

[erk]

Just a little bit of info regarding KnC
They contact ckolivas and myself at the end of May regarding cgminer and related information.

They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer, then in September the real (faster) devices to tune cgminer to.

I have, however, heard nothing since, but no doubt expect to hear something soon.

I'll keep everyone posted if anything happens

I've been waiting 5 days for a reply (to an email I sent Marcus and Sam) from KnC about their status ... still no response ...

Could it be that they do not want to answer you, until they have a exactade shipping date. To not lie.
But next Tuesday not have answer would be a bit worrying.

I do not want you to think I'm a Fanboy. I acknowledge the work done by ckolivas and you.

Could be.
But I really just asked for a status update coz we hadn't heard from them since the end of May.
They were also the ones who contacted us originally, not the other way around.

Got a reply 10 minutes ago.
Things are moving forward.
It seems KnC is indeed rather hectic at the moment, as one would expect, but still within their recent time frame update.

They have published at least two status updates since May, so I don't know what you are going on about there.

Try reading the news on their site:  https://www.kncminer.com/news

[Loredo]

Got a reply 10 minutes ago.
Things are moving forward.

It might just be coincidence that a response comes when the discussion of a critical path software issue resurfaces on this forum.

Then again, they might just be the Anti-BFL.  By that I mean:

BFL: Instead of professionally addressing the issue of why they continue to stiff their chip purchasers and potential board developers, one of their "executives" comes on and engages in a profanity match with members of the community.

KNC: A software developer mentions, politely, that he has not heard from KnC in the timeframe they indicated earlier, and then he does.

Debates on how many angels or defects can dance on the head of a KnC die notwithstanding, they sure seem to me like a much more businesslike organization than anyone else in the ring.

[bitcoinarnold]

Let's face it, until KNC provides some die shots followed in relative short fashion by a hashing video there will be a lot of teeth gnashing and second guessing regarding their design choices...

This.

I can't believe that people invested their money in KNC and expect an optimistic delivery date without seeing some more transparency ( fab documention/order dates etc.). Yes it's important to have an ASIC if you want to currently mine, but I feel too many people are throwing their cash around.

[erk]

Let's face it, until KNC provides some die shots followed in relative short fashion by a hashing video there will be a lot of teeth gnashing and second guessing regarding their design choices...

This.

I can't believe that people invested their money in KNC and expect an optimistic delivery date without seeing some more transparency ( fab documention/order dates etc.). Yes it's important to have an ASIC if you want to currently mine, but I feel too many people are throwing their cash around.

I would love to order a KNCminer, but I am waiting until I see working proof from end users who have received their units, just like I did with BFL.  Until actual real world test results come in, you can't plan your rig effectively.

[androz]

I would love to order a KNCminer, but I am waiting until I see working proof from end users who have received their units, just like I did with BFL.  Until actual real world test results come in, you can't plan your rig effectively.

this would be the most cautious option, unfortunately we have no time for a 100% safe choice

i'm struggling with doubts since the beginning of june (that prevented me to place an order in the best timespot)

[ASIC-K]

if you dont have the money to risk, then dont risk it.

why is this so hard? i make good money and im willing to risk a portion of it....

[btceic]

I would love to order a KNCminer, but I am waiting until I see working proof from end users who have received their units, just like I did with BFL.  Until actual real world test results come in, you can't plan your rig effectively.

this would be the most cautious option, unfortunately we have no time for a 100% safe choice

i'm struggling with doubts since the beginning of june (that prevented me to place an order in the best timespot)

You could go with one of the group buys and purchase whatever you are comfortable with.
I myself have gone with Tyrion and BlastBob.

[androz]

if you dont have the money to risk, then dont risk it.

why is this so hard? i make good money and im willing to risk a portion of it....

ok, i 'll not starve to death if it turns in a bad investment but i don't have disposable money to waste either

everybody tries to find out the best trustable seller.
maybe some don't need to think a lot about it, lucky ppl 

[ASIC-K]

if you dont have the money to risk, then dont risk it.

why is this so hard? i make good money and im willing to risk a portion of it....

ok, i 'll not starve to death if it turns in a bad investment but i don't have disposable money to waste either

everybody tries to find out the best trustable seller.
maybe some don't need to think a lot about it, lucky ppl 

lol no i understand, but this whole bitcoin thing is based on risk so it gets annoying when people bitch and complain all day about this stuff. just go to work then! lol

[androz]

just go to work then! lol

no, do not work is a must for btc ppl.
bitcoin ppl don't want to work, they want a reliable machine that works for them

lool  

[erk]

if you dont have the money to risk, then dont risk it.

why is this so hard? i make good money and im willing to risk a portion of it....

ok, i 'll not starve to death if it turns in a bad investment but i don't have disposable money to waste either

everybody tries to find out the best trustable seller.
maybe some don't need to think a lot about it, lucky ppl  

lol no i understand, but this whole bitcoin thing is based on risk so it gets annoying when people bitch and complain all day about this stuff. just go to work then! lol

It's not risk it's greed, there is this mindset, that if you don't get in early you wont make as much profit, that makes people borrow and pay interest for months and months for an order that is not delivered. Crazy logic, as the only think that makes the mining difficulty rise so quickly is greedy people that want to get in first, it's self perpetuating. That's no way to run a long term investment, but I guess people wouldn't be interested in mining bitcoins if they actually knew how to invest

[androz]

It's not risk it's greed

erk, u r waiting for more reliable data for place an order to knc or u don't plan to do it at all?

do u know if thay have refound option in case of delayed delivery?

[nightengale]

Now that is an update:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg2722887#msg2722887

Glad I chose to be involved in Steamboat's project in addition to KnC's. I'm hoping as time goes on, they will be this open as well.

[Anenome5]

What the hell does this question mean?   What???  Fire risk???  Please explain..

I ordered a KnC Jupiter a while back. One thing I've been thinking abut recently: Are these miners likely to be safe to leave unattended? I mean....I do need to leave the house once in a while. I wouldn't want to come back from shopping to find my house has burnt down. Unattendance recommendations?

If they are certified they will be. If not, you takes your chances.

its an electronic, it has a fire risk. whats to explain?

just common sense as with most electrical products..
eg. don't place news paper on top of unit.
     don't block air vents and/or fans
     don't let kids near them.

I think they better include a user manual stating risks and proper use of product
just to be on the safe side.

I hope they will be properly certified "CE". So at least if the house burns down, the insurance covers it.

Just buy a modern power supply. They don't ship with a power supply, you know.

[Rampion]

Now that is an update:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg2722887#msg2722887

Glad I chose to be involved in Steamboat's project in addition to KnC's. I'm hoping as time goes on, they will be this open as well.

Yup, that's an update.

At least kano is kindly giving us some useful info.

They then stated they'd be sending (in July) mock up devices (with an internal RPi) for us to work with on cgminer

We are very close to see if the first deadlines are met.