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July 29, 2013, 08:48:40 AM
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Paypal blocked Kncminer Huh  Huh Huh

fear monger !! Angry  Grin

Can someone please check this out?? is it true??

we saw this in the italian local forum

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263683.0

Xfox claim that the problem appeared when he tried to purchase a mercury
i don't know this guy  but i don't see any apparent reason in providing a fake report in a local forum.
maybe is only a "technical" problem

anyone has tried to buy a knc miner today?

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July 29, 2013, 08:59:29 AM
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Yes, this is old news, it was blocked the very first day.

Too much money suddenly flowing to a previously inactive account.

I'd be surprised if they did not have similar problems with their regular bank account. When you are a new company which is a joint venture of two small companies that suddenly receives millions in small payments from all over the world there are some alarms that go off.

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July 29, 2013, 09:07:07 AM
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Yes, this is old news, it was blocked the very first day.

Too much money suddenly flowing to a previously inactive account.


but the guy tried to buy it today  Cool




is still blocked?

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July 29, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
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Yes, this is old news, it was blocked the very first day.

Too much money suddenly flowing to a previously inactive account.

I'd be surprised if they did not have similar problems with their regular bank account. When you are a new company which is a joint venture of two small companies that suddenly receives millions in small payments from all over the world there are some alarms that go off.

As you said you're referring to paypal problem they had the very first payment day (https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-13, June 4th),
problem that KnCminer managed to fix quite promptly (announcement https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-14).

It seems strange that it is happening again though.




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July 29, 2013, 09:15:32 AM
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As you said you're referring to paypal problem they had the very first payment day (https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-13, June 4th),
problem that KnCminer managed to fix quite promptly (announcement https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-14).

It seems strange that it is happening again though.
Paypal and KnC probably agreed on a new higher alarm/block account threshold on June 4th and they passed that new threshold. It will probably be fixed within a day.

So KnC is just too succesfull, you gotta stop ordering !!

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July 29, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
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As you said you're referring to paypal problem they had the very first payment day (https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-13, June 4th),
problem that KnCminer managed to fix quite promptly (announcement https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-14).

It seems strange that it is happening again though.
Paypal and KnC probably agreed on a new higher alarm/block account threshold on June 4th and they passed that new threshold. It will probably be fixed within a day.

makes sense! I'd have thought it before. thanks

So KnC is just too succesfull, you gotta stop ordering !!

yep, if your theory is correct this means they surpassed their selling goals. Or maybe they just forgot to rearrange a higher threshold with paypal after having launched Mercury Smiley

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July 29, 2013, 10:46:36 AM
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If you are so uncertain about KNC then now you can apply for a job in KNC as Technical Customer Service :-)

http://annonsoversikt.monster.se/getjob.aspx?WT.mc_n=xml_thel&JobID=123793215

Haha :-)
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July 29, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
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My paypal account became limited and under investigation yesterday, just before that happened I brought another miner from them, hope it wasnt because of my alleged dodgy dealings.
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July 29, 2013, 11:24:12 AM
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You need to verify your account to spend that much via Paypal.

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July 29, 2013, 11:44:01 AM
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If you are so uncertain about KNC then now you can apply for a job in KNC as Technical Customer Service :-)

http://annonsoversikt.monster.se/getjob.aspx?WT.mc_n=xml_thel&JobID=123793215

Haha :-)

@Bitcoinorama, isn't this the job you were looking..?
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July 29, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
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yes facts..  the one that is true is that you are a troll..  with big questions like 5 year old asking daddy why is the sun yellow..  but why daddy, why is it yellow..and the next, why does your pants stinks.. yes you have to change diaper.. 

you enjoy this??  dumb answers to dumb questions?  ask away more dumb things.. lets all feed the troll here, it is such a new thing in year 2013 to walk into thread and be classic drunk ass in town no?? 

oh wait..  one more thing..  yes... oh wait.. yes it was the same as before..  circle circle around and around same things but no it is not.. you follow more??  keep reading since you know i will say something for you to eat troll..   just wait..  there will be something just keep reading..   mmm..  wait more food keep reading and there over in the next yard..  go fetch it..  yes it is the facts you want..  almost there..

just some more reading..   please keep reading..   all the answers are here..  just wait a bit..  more is coming.. 

 

The fact is that you thought I did not know about the prototype "Mars" and now you cannot admit you made an inaccurate statement about myself. So the only action you can assume is call me a "troll" and insinuate I behave as child, when in reality that is your behaviour. I just ask if there is any prototype ready and you answer was:

you watched from beginning but missed Mars?   (...) They are moving fast.  If they fail they fail but it won't be by wasting time with monkeys like you

you missed the point where no one has to dance for you...  you didn't read and you ask 1000 questions..  you can put a mirror on the floor and look up your ass for your answers.. ok?

So its becoming obvious that you are trying to obfuscate the fact you are afraid to answer "no" and admit that KnC perhaps are a fraudulent business. What you do not realize is I am also entitled to my opinion and I am not freaking out because someone do not agree with my opinion.

Please, stick to the fact: There is no evidence produced by KnC indicating they will deliver any of the three available products by September. Period.

Anything beyond this fact is a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to one.

So relax... If KnC turn out to keep up with their promises I will cheer up and congratulate all buyers for the good choice their made. However if KnC turn out to be what I personally think they are, then the only thing I will be able to do is repeat "I told you so, I told you so...".
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July 29, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
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yes facts..  the one that is true is that you are a troll..  with big questions like 5 year old asking daddy why is the sun yellow..  but why daddy, why is it yellow..and the next, why does your pants stinks.. yes you have to change diaper.. 

you enjoy this??  dumb answers to dumb questions?  ask away more dumb things.. lets all feed the troll here, it is such a new thing in year 2013 to walk into thread and be classic drunk ass in town no?? 

oh wait..  one more thing..  yes... oh wait.. yes it was the same as before..  circle circle around and around same things but no it is not.. you follow more??  keep reading since you know i will say something for you to eat troll..   just wait..  there will be something just keep reading..   mmm..  wait more food keep reading and there over in the next yard..  go fetch it..  yes it is the facts you want..  almost there..

just some more reading..   please keep reading..   all the answers are here..  just wait a bit..  more is coming.. 

 

The fact is that you thought I did not know about the prototype "Mars" and now you cannot admit you made an inaccurate statement about myself. So the only action you can assume is call me a "troll" and insinuate I behave as child, when in reality that is your behaviour. I just ask if there is any prototype ready and you answer was:

you watched from beginning but missed Mars?   (...) They are moving fast.  If they fail they fail but it won't be by wasting time with monkeys like you

you missed the point where no one has to dance for you...  you didn't read and you ask 1000 questions..  you can put a mirror on the floor and look up your ass for your answers.. ok?

So its becoming obvious that you are trying to obfuscate the fact you are afraid to answer "no" and admit that KnC perhaps are a fraudulent business. What you do not realize is I am also entitled to my opinion and I am not freaking out because someone do not agree with my opinion.

Please, stick to the fact: There is no evidence produced by KnC indicating they will deliver any of the three available products by September. Period.

Anything beyond this fact is a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to one.

So relax... If KnC turn out to keep up with their promises I will cheer up and congratulate all buyers for the good choice their made. However if KnC turn out to be what I personally think they are, then the only thing I will be able to do is repeat "I told you so, I told you so...".

You need to wind  your neck in dude. You seriously think that you can say that a company may be fraudulent like that without risking legal action?
There's a big difference between an opinion on their ability to deliver on time and spreading rumours that they be fraudulently doing business.
There is no evidence that Apple will produce the new cheaper iPhone (5C), but no-one's calling them frauds. Wisely.

Best thing you can do is go away if you're not buying or thinking of buying a KnC rig. We've seen all you have to say. It's getting old.
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July 29, 2013, 12:28:23 PM
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You need to wind  your neck in dude. You seriously think that you can say that a company may be fraudulent like that without risking legal action?

Legal action by who against who? You must be kidding...

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There's a big difference between an opinion on their ability to deliver on time and spreading rumours that they be fraudulently doing business.

Yes, however I am not spreading rumours.

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There is no evidence that Apple will produce the new cheaper iPhone (5C), but no-one's calling them frauds. Wisely.

KnC is far away from the opportunity to be compared with Apple.

Apple have a well established background to design and deliver products.

KnC came to exist in paper this year without any delivering history.
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July 29, 2013, 12:29:17 PM
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Looks like Austin and Becky Craig are filming and gaining attention from Fox News Stateside...

http://fox13now.com/2013/07/28/provo-newlyweds-try-to-survive-using-digital-currency-only-for-90-days/

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July 29, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
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Looks like Austin and Becky Craig are filming and gaining attention from Fox News Stateside...

http://fox13now.com/2013/07/28/provo-newlyweds-try-to-survive-using-digital-currency-only-for-90-days/

Well done! Your work as a shill is excellent!

There is nothing better rather than post something completely unrelated to the present discussion to divert attention from the fact that there is no evidence indicating KnC will deliver as promised!
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July 29, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
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@Augusto Croppo, we appreciate your concern for us and if you are indeed right, we won't really care about you as we'll be sulking about the money we lost. Nobody with a brain should invest in BTC any more money than they can afford to burn. Please take @timmmers advice and move along, we have heard enough already.
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July 29, 2013, 12:52:11 PM
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Looks like Austin and Becky Craig are filming and gaining attention from Fox News Stateside...

http://fox13now.com/2013/07/28/provo-newlyweds-try-to-survive-using-digital-currency-only-for-90-days/

Well done! Your work as a shill is excellent!

There is nothing better rather than post something completely unrelated to the present discussion to divert attention from the fact that there is no evidence indicating KnC will deliver as promised!

Divert attention from what? They are the main sponsor of the film. You would know this, but you don't read around topics, you just vent wild, unfounded accusations to discredit companies for your own purpose.

Talking about delivering as promised. They are busting a gut to meet expectations of a September/October delivery, if there is any reasonable delay, it may affect overall profit, but ROI, for now, looks comfortable and those that paid with CC are protected if KnC were to scam and vanish. They won't, as they are a legitimate company.

You however have been selling ASICminer block eruptors at a price point that you know will never show a return on investment for anyone purchasing from you with all known knowns. So who is scamming who exactly?!

And FYI, the definition of a 'shill', according to Wikipedia is;

"A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

I'm not sure where I fit that description, as I've been totally open and shared everything I saw, heard and uncovered, and not exclusively to KnC. Furthermore they don't need a shill, you just email, and they answer you, in most cases, promptly. Try it, because should they deliver on time, or there abouts, you're unsubstantiated comments will just be plain embarrassing.

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July 29, 2013, 12:58:10 PM
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Looks like Austin and Becky Craig are filming and gaining attention from Fox News Stateside...

http://fox13now.com/2013/07/28/provo-newlyweds-try-to-survive-using-digital-currency-only-for-90-days/

Well done! Your work as a shill is excellent!

There is nothing better rather than post something completely unrelated to the present discussion to divert attention from the fact that there is no evidence indicating KnC will deliver as promised!

Divert attention from what? They are the main sponsor of the film. You would know this, but you don't read around topics, you just vent wild, unfounded accusations to discredit companies for your own purpose.

Talking about delivering as promised. They are busting a gut to meet expectations of a September/October delivery, if there is any reasonable delay, it may affect overall profit, but ROI, for now, looks comfortable and those that paid with CC are protected if KnC were to scam and vanish. They won't, as they are a legitimate company.

You however have been selling ASICminer block eruptors at a price point that you know will never show a return on investment for anyone purchasing from you with all known knowns. So who is scamming who exactly?!

And FYI, the definition of a 'shill', according to Wikipedia is;

"A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

I'm not sure where I fit that description, as I've been totally open and shared everything I saw, heard and uncovered, and not exclusively to KnC. Furthermore they don't need a shill, you just email, and they answer you, in most cases, promptly. Try it, because should they deliver on time, or there abouts, you're unsubstantiated comments will just be plain embarrassing.
He sells block eruptors? Biased...
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July 29, 2013, 01:01:11 PM
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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

KnC must be bad for USB miner business.

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July 29, 2013, 01:06:31 PM
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Meh...better to just hit the ignore button than to go back and forth. No there are no guarantees that KnC ships on time - their design and production model doesn't allow for a prototype at this stage. If they had planned for that, it would have included automatic delays - they made the call to go this route and at this point, their customers have to believe that it's going to happen.

 As far as hurting the competition's business, we've seen that anyone that has hardware available to ship has had zero problem selling it at high prices. AM, KNC, Bitfury, etc are really all concerned with delivering their own hardware on time and less worried about the competition, at least short term.

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