Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[lemonte]

People in here need to calm down.. Where exactly has anyone said about stuff being late?? They were always advertised as Q1/Q2.

[ElGabo]

People in here need to calm down.. Where exactly has anyone said about stuff being late?? They were always advertised as Q1/Q2.

Yep i have no problem with it.

My problem is my jupiter gets about 0.2... at 1Th.

I wanted to buy a few more to keep myself updated against diff rise. They told us to keep some coins handy. I bought only 7 ants to keep the coins for the Jupiters. If I'd bought more ants I've mined back about 80%of the coins.

That is my problem.

I hope you understand.

Sorry to say but it's not about the network anymore. It's about risk, ROI, profit, loss. It's business. They gave false information.

And yeah, I'm angry now.

[lemonte]

People in here need to calm down.. Where exactly has anyone said about stuff being late?? They were always advertised as Q1/Q2.

Yep i have no problem with it.

My problem is my jupiter gets about 0.2... at 1Th.

I wanted to buy a few more to keep myself updated against diff rise. They told us to keep some coins handy. I bought only 7 ants to keep the coins for the Jupiters. If I'd bought more ants I've mined back about 80%of the coins.

That is my problem.

I hope you understand.

Sorry to say but it's not about the network anymore. It's about risk, ROI, profit, loss. It's business. They gave false information.

And yeah, I'm angry now.

You have a 1TH Jupiter?? Oct or Nov?

Yeah, I admit I'd like another Jupiter, just to get myself back into the 1BTC a day club, but sounds like it's out of their control. Better them being straight though I guess.

Agree with you on the profit/loss side of things, it's hard to plan more than a few weeks ahead with Bitcoin as a whole.

[RoadStress]

Neptunes are still very much in the preliminary design phase..

serious? so why ask our money!!!

jupiter bad firmware
many die 0
many errors HW
ask people PSU 1200w only spend 660w

and now have 34 millions dollars only for say preliminary design phase is joke?

You really expected them to ship in February?

[ASIC-K]

anyone wanna buy my batch 1 order? #1109x

[rolling]

People in here need to calm down.. Where exactly has anyone said about stuff being late?? They were always advertised as Q1/Q2.

Why do they "need" to calm down.  Is their concern and frustration bothering you?  Do you work for KNC?  Should everyone be happy?  They pretty much just announced that Q1/Q2 really means Q2.  Most of us expected that anyway but people have a right to be concerned.

Also, announcing that Jupiters would not be sold is a huge bombshell.  I know it pretty much shattered my plans.  I will be making 1/8th of my previous BTC income by the time Neptune arrives.

The answer is really easy.  They just need to keep selling Jupiters every month until they are done with the Neptune and then switch over.  3000 units a month would keep us in competition with CEX.io and any behind the scenes mining ops.  Not selling Jupiters is surrendering the future of mining to non-KNC customers.  It doesn't make sense.  If they want to take their time with the Neptune, they need to give us some hashing power in the meantime.

[Tigggger]

The answer is really easy.  They just need to keep selling Jupiters every month until they are done with the Neptune and then switch over.  3000 units a month would keep us in competition with CEX.io and any behind the scenes mining ops.  Not selling Jupiters is surrendering the future of mining to non-KNC customers.  It doesn't make sense.  If they want to take their time with the Neptune, they need to give us some hashing power in the meantime.

*clap*

I said this about 600 pages ago, but Jupiter was a proven product, the last batch was made and shipped in a very short period of time and it's just silly to retire it when it''s still the best out there.  KNC should have used the money they made to invest in the neptune themselves and announce it much nearer the time

I have a very early order for a neptune but was only willing to gamble on one of them with the vague timeline and it's looking a wise decision at this point.

Many of us and KNC themselves no doubt expected a lull in the hashrate growth after the last jupiters shipped but this has not been the case with even greater quantities of hardware appearing to maintain the 30% per difficulty jumps

This means we need new hardware and as said above by rolling, if KNC don't offer anything the money will be going elsewhere, and if they wait too long and another serious competitor appears then mass refunds will follow which will do nothing to help knc's future.

[helmax]

Neptunes are still very much in the preliminary design phase..

serious? so why ask our money!!!

jupiter bad firmware
many die 0
many errors HW
ask people PSU 1200w only spend 660w

and now have 34 millions dollars only for say preliminary design phase is joke?

You really expected them to ship in February?

First quarter: from the beginning of January to the end of March
Second quarter: from the beginning of April to the end of June


KNC is next BFL ?

[kendog77]

I think Knc needs to release an official statement with some good news to calm the masses, or else they will get hit with a lot of Neptune refund requests.

I think vague statements from Bitcoinorama simply stirred up the hornets nest and did more harm than good.

[faetos]

I certainly appreciate his honesty. I'm conflicted on what to do at this point.

[ASIC-K]

I certainly appreciate his honesty. I'm conflicted on what to do at this point.

i dont appreciate his honesty. he cant just drop a bit of info like that and then run away from the forums.....weak.

[AussiePete]

People in here need to calm down.. Where exactly has anyone said about stuff being late?? They were always advertised as Q1/Q2.

Why do they "need" to calm down.  Is their concern and frustration bothering you?  Do you work for KNC?  Should everyone be happy?  They pretty much just announced that Q1/Q2 really means Q2.  Most of us expected that anyway but people have a right to be concerned.

Also, announcing that Jupiters would not be sold is a huge bombshell.  I know it pretty much shattered my plans.  I will be making 1/8th of my previous BTC income by the time Neptune arrives.

The answer is really easy.  They just need to keep selling Jupiters every month until they are done with the Neptune and then switch over.  3000 units a month would keep us in competition with CEX.io and any behind the scenes mining ops.  Not selling Jupiters is surrendering the future of mining to non-KNC customers.  It doesn't make sense.  If they want to take their time with the Neptune, they need to give us some hashing power in the meantime.

+1

I totally agree with you Rolling ...........6 months ago KnC were predicting this continous diff rise due to competitors continuing adding  large amounts of hashing power to the net work during Dec, Jan, Feb .
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We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

Thanks
KnCMiner Team


KnC made a promise .........We will continue to release our devices..........KnC knew that it was highly probable that their competitors would keep selling machines ................so they preemted this by giving us this statement , which is a tool used to give us confidence so we would continue to invest in their ability and integrity.

So seeing that it was highly probable  back in June 2013  KnC would have pre ordered with their supplies months ago........wouldn't they ??........because they told us to keep our "Coins Handy"   .............So what is going on ...................Its quite simple business preemting really . My dad was a farmer  and he always  had extra grain stored for sowing or extra hay stored for the stock ........This whole btc mining is about preemting what might possible happen . The Protection proves that KnC are on the ball .......the Jupiters are proof of KnC ability to get the job done right ........KnC are a very switched on company

So what the hell is going on ..............Im very suspicious right now .....I dont believe KnC wasnt pre-pared for this  !!!!...... ?

Sorry Bitcoinorama..........I dont mean to pick on you ,  because  you have always  come across as a straight shooter ...........but this statement   "I believe it's more likely to be upgrade module, there appears to be a bottleneck on acquiring controller boards."............to me , doesnt seem to make sence ............hmmmm , maybe its just my suspicious mind .

I would really like a more clearer answer . Are you honestly saying your suppliers weren't keeping you updated months in advanced . Knowing the "Lead" time in business like yours would mean  Life or Death ..............    Its very hard to swallow .



KnC  (with respect)....Are there going to be any more Jupiters sold Ever ? .......If yes .........When ?

sincerely

Pete

[jelin1984]

Please knc make for sell more Jupiter

[ASIC-K]

this "bottleneck" is pure bullshit. they just dont want people bailing on neptune orders for jupiters.... so conveniently they are out of controller boards....

really pissing people off here knc.

[jermwerty]

You guys are sure worked up about this whole thing with Jupiters -- WHY?

Perhaps KnC doesn't want to sell Jupiters for the "current" going rate.

Also why be so tied to one vendor?  I've owned Avalon, BFL, KnC, ASICMiner, Bitfury, and ANTMiner.

Remember you can get ANTs shipped this week for $2K for 200GH draws about 410W while my 260GH Saturn took 340W (@wall) - really the power savings of a KnC isn't enough to warrant additional cost...

So the real question is would KnC price Jupiters reasonably - I mean within 10 days 200GH will only be worth $1500 or less...

[ASIC-K]

can anyone drop me a link where i can buy an ANT miner?

[NorTiaN]

can anyone drop me a link where i can buy an ANT miner?

www.bitmaintech.com

[ASIC-K]

perfect, thanks.

[helmax]

I'm not worried about the jupiters
because at this point won't make any difference

the point KNC is kidding with our money!
since November ask money !! for wht only have preliminary design phase
after soldout 3 batch ! 18 Jan

This is pure and real joke with people!!


but when i come here write my bad english and i say it dont beleive knc all time
some users "fans or blinders" so they don't give a fuck about me


now everyone see !

[sbfree]

You guys are sure worked up about this whole thing with Jupiters -- WHY?

Perhaps KnC doesn't want to sell Jupiters for the "current" going rate.

Also why be so tied to one vendor?  I've owned Avalon, BFL, KnC, ASICMiner, Bitfury, and ANTMiner.

Remember you can get ANTs shipped this week for $2K for 200GH draws about 410W while my 260GH Saturn took 340W (@wall) - really the power savings of a KnC isn't enough to warrant additional cost...

So the real question is would KnC price Jupiters reasonably - I mean within 10 days 200GH will only be worth $1500 or less...

I'll give you $1500 for your 200GH/s in 10 days!!