samsonn25
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April 29, 2014, 02:22:12 AM |
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Cheap self serving fear mongering, nothing more, nothing less. KNC said in their recent announcement that they will stand by and support their loyal customers, and I believe them.
Your an idiot IMHO! Flattery will get you nowhere sweetheart. You're going to feel even worse when all the loyal KNC customers are mining away on their 3th Neptunes in June and on 6TH in August. By then when difficulty is 20-30 Billion it is a major Trainwreck already!
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corrow
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April 29, 2014, 02:23:56 AM |
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Cheap self serving fear mongering, nothing more, nothing less. KNC said in their recent announcement that they will stand by and support their loyal customers, and I believe them.
At the moment the mistakes are piling up, due to bad management. Logical KnC is doing everything to make it right and save their soul. Sure I believe they will try, but still people are suffering hard due to their lack of profession. Which is not fair at all! Not keeping promises, keeping information behind etc. does not fit within the picture of a trusted and proper corporate governance. Is it rational to be loyal to them? Well maybe it is, when people are blind for it.
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 02:24:51 AM |
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Folks, you need to flow a bit better with the times. Difficulty is never going to be 26 again, and yes there are other people mining bitcoin now.
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 02:25:37 AM |
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Cheap self serving fear mongering, nothing more, nothing less. KNC said in their recent announcement that they will stand by and support their loyal customers, and I believe them.
Your an idiot IMHO! Flattery will get you nowhere sweetheart. You're going to feel even worse when all the loyal KNC customers are mining away on their 3th Neptunes in June and on 6TH in August. ROFLMAO @ U, I have S2's running right now, just pissed they are holding my money or I'd have 2 SP10's as well. GL with your 2.6TH/s in July, maybe. I should have 10-15 BTC mined by then, more if the liars would get off their hands and send my investment back.
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Phoenix1969
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April 29, 2014, 02:26:39 AM |
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Cheap self serving fear mongering, nothing more, nothing less. KNC said in their recent announcement that they will stand by and support their loyal customers, and I believe them.
Your an idiot IMHO! Flattery will get you nowhere sweetheart. You're going to feel even worse when all the loyal KNC customers are mining away on their 3th Neptunes in June and on 6TH in August. By then when difficulty is 20-30 Billion it is a major Trainwreck already! 33 days till June... at least now we have some solid numbers to calculate... and yeah, it still looks grim if Spondoolies continues to deliver.
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 02:28:05 AM |
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Cheap self serving fear mongering, nothing more, nothing less. KNC said in their recent announcement that they will stand by and support their loyal customers, and I believe them.
At the moment the mistakes are piling up, due to bad management. Logical KnC is doing everything to make it right and save their soul. Sure I believe they will try, but still people are suffering hard due to their lack of profession. Which is not fair at all! Not keeping promises, keeping information behind etc. does not fit within the picture of a trusted and proper corporate governance. Is it rational to be loyal to them? Well maybe it is, when people are blind for it. Corrow, there are as many sides to this issue as there are people involved. If I had skin in this game, which I don't, I'd see KNC as the best bet on the block right now, despite recent problems.
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 02:31:25 AM |
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Cheap self serving fear mongering, nothing more, nothing less. KNC said in their recent announcement that they will stand by and support their loyal customers, and I believe them.
At the moment the mistakes are piling up, due to bad management. Logical KnC is doing everything to make it right and save their soul. Sure I believe they will try, but still people are suffering hard due to their lack of profession. Which is not fair at all! Not keeping promises, keeping information behind etc. does not fit within the picture of a trusted and proper corporate governance. Is it rational to be loyal to them? Well maybe it is, when people are blind for it. Corrow, there are as many sides to this issue as there are people involved. If I had skin in this game, which I don't, I'd see KNC as the best bet on the block right now, despite recent problems. No skin in the game? Then STFU - there is only ONE side to this, customers are getting BONED! KnC are running OUR Neptunes and offering us POS franken-jups to make room for more of OUR neptunes. KnC == 100% SHIT BAGGERS!
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 02:34:36 AM |
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33 days till June... at least now we have some solid numbers to calculate... and yeah, it still looks grim if Spondoolies continues to deliver.
Well, if you follow the Spondoolies thread you will hear RoadStress preaching SP30 ROI in 2-3 months and disclaimers about the increase in difficulty between now and August. Personally, I don't buy it but SP30 customers are going to be in a worse situation as Neptune customers because Neptune customers will be hashing in June. And I don't see Spondoolies offering to give their customers extra machines if the SP30 doesn't ROI in a reasonable timeframe. If I were a betting man, I'd bet on KNC.
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 02:36:28 AM |
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No skin in the game? Then STFU - there is only ONE side to this, customers are getting BONED! KnC are running OUR Neptunes and offering us POS franken-jups to make room for more of OUR neptunes.
In your dreams bubba. And where I come from, they call guys my age Sir so watch your tongue son L)L
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 02:38:25 AM |
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s1gs3gv == KnC Shill..
Neither miner is profitable @ $450/BTC
antMiner S1 is the only one that comes close to being worth firing up if you intend on converting BTC immediately. IMHO it is best to buy BTC and hold wait for these A$$-Hat manufacturers to get over themselves, then buy GHS for pennies as that is their value without a serious BTC rebound.
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 02:39:23 AM |
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No skin in the game? Then STFU - there is only ONE side to this, customers are getting BONED! KnC are running OUR Neptunes and offering us POS franken-jups to make room for more of OUR neptunes.
In your dreams bubba. And where I come from, they call guys my age Sir so watch your tongue son L)L I doubt u r older then I and sir is a respect thing, shills & hacks do not get that from me.
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 02:41:58 AM |
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s1gs3gv == KnC Shill..
Neither miner is profitable @ $450/BTC
antMiner S1 is the only one that comes close to being worth firing up if you intend on converting BTC immediately. IMHO it is best to buy BTC and hold wait for these A$$-Hat manufacturers to get over themselves, then buy GHS for pennies as that is their value without a serious BTC rebound.
Sorry, I'm not a KNC shill. Just a guy with a sense of fair play. Buying BTC in this environment is a mugs game. You'll be panic selling when it hits 200 later this summer.
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 02:48:43 AM |
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LOL yeah panic, I was running 3 GHS of GPUs, losing $2 dollars an hour for months. Man did that work out like a MF'r..
So no skin in the game, no hardware, no BTC... yet you speak... do you know what a shill is?
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 02:51:40 AM |
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LOL yeah panic, I was running 3 GHS of GPUs, losing $2 dollars an hour for months. Man did that work out like a MF'r..
So no skin in the game, no hardware, no BTC... yet you speak... do you know what a shill is?
The good action in the crypto world has moved up the food chain to the infrastructure and application space. No one in their right mind would try getting into bitcoin mining for profit at this stage of the game. Let go, move on. And don't forget to call me Sir LOL
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 02:54:49 AM |
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LOL yeah panic, I was running 3 GHS of GPUs, losing $2 dollars an hour for months. Man did that work out like a MF'r..
So no skin in the game, no hardware, no BTC... yet you speak... do you know what a shill is?
The good action in the crypto world has moved up the food chain to the infrastructure and application space. No one in their right mind would try getting into bitcoin mining for profit at this stage of the game. Let go, move on. Get in? well if that was the case then I agree. But I can see you spend most of your time shilling so I will now ignore you as nothing you have EVER said is worth reading, thanks for donating your money to my retirement tho.. lol scrypt coins hahaha
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samsonn25
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April 29, 2014, 02:55:30 AM |
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s1gs3gv == KnC Shill..
Neither miner is profitable @ $450/BTC
antMiner S1 is the only one that comes close to being worth firing up if you intend on converting BTC immediately. IMHO it is best to buy BTC and hold wait for these A$$-Hat manufacturers to get over themselves, then buy GHS for pennies as that is their value without a serious BTC rebound.
Sorry, I'm not a KNC shill. Just a guy with a sense of fair play. Buying BTC in this environment is a mugs game. You'll be panic selling when it hits 200 later this summer. If the purpose of mining is to obtain btc coins, why would it be worse to buy the coins outright instead of buying a miner. If btc price went to $200 this summer your $450 coins bought are valued at $200, if you use that potential money and bought a miner like a Neptune, at 38 Billion difficulty it is worthless in mining, maybe sell on ebay.
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 03:01:00 AM |
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Ebay is not that good anymore either. Basically I hope that infrastructure/utilization will increase, increasing fees to miners and that will in the long run == more then just buying and holding. In the present we have soo many manufacturers in "delay" that it is NOT worth pre-order as the "odds" are against it. IMHO this hardware industry is about to fall on it's face and miners(GHS) will become dirt cheap as the greedy phucks realize their dreams will not be and need to pay the bills. I will be waiting to help bail them out @ a 90% discount of course.
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s1gs3gv
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April 29, 2014, 03:02:09 AM |
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Well, this is a simplistic explanation but I tend to look at these kinds of things in a simplistic way. If I were mining btc, I could and probably would convert to fiat as I mine. As a result, my revenue stream would be fairly predictable. Otoh, buyers tend to be holders rather than traders and are gambling on future appreciation.
By nature, I'd be a trader, not a miner or an investor. But when you look at potential return on the time invested, software development in the infrastructure and application space is potentially more rewarding than any other strategy.
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samsonn25
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April 29, 2014, 03:03:35 AM |
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Ebay is not that good anymore either. Basically I hope that infrastructure/utilization will increase, increasing fees to miners and that will in the long run == more then just buying and holding. In the present we have soo many manufacturers in "delay" that it is NOT worth pre-order as the "odds" are against it. IMHO this hardware industry is about to fall on it's face and miners(GHS) will become dirt cheap as the greedy phucks realize their dreams will not be and need to pay the bills. I will be waiting to help bail them out @ a 90% discount of course.
There is already a project developing to begin using them as space heaters for next Fall/Winter lol
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whonesta
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April 29, 2014, 03:07:42 AM |
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There is already a project developing to begin using them as space heaters for next Fall/Winter lol
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