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May 07, 2014, 03:26:10 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

Here you can see through the bubble wrap packaging that the coolers have old thermal paste, showing they are old and used
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thats hardcore

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May 07, 2014, 04:03:50 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

Here you can see through the bubble wrap packaging that the coolers have old thermal paste, showing they are old and used
https://plus.google.com/photos/114801911830720817244/albums/6008617557787710401/6008617559627315970?pid=6008617559627315970&oid=114801911830720817244
https://plus.google.com/photos/114801911830720817244/albums/6008617557787710401/6008617556332918274?pid=6008617556332918274&oid=114801911830720817244


thats hardcore



That's hardcore, indeed. And it seems as if it was planned. KnC writes in its TOS:

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1.2 The Products are sold for business use only and Purchaser hereby accepts that it has purchased the Products in order to conduct a business.

Now KnC's "Kurt" translates this into:
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What you agreed to states that you are purchasing as a business in a business to business transaction, you are not a consumer.

English isn't my first language, and maybe I totally misunderstand this. But  first of all: If KnC would like to make a deal with a company - which would clearly be a business - then they would give the option on their homepage to register as a company. This is not possible. You only can register as a private person.

So they knew from the beginning that they will mainly deal with individuals.

Now they write in the TOS: "for business use". And "in order to conduct a business."

WIth no word they write that the buyer IS a business. Nevertheless, "Kurt" now says that all transactions were of a "business to business" nature.

Why does he write "you are not a consumer"? Because KnC is afraid as hell that the Swedish Consumer Protection Agency (or however you call this thing) may jump on their back. Therefore he is whining that "you are not a consumer". What they delivered with the Frankenjups is potentially hazardous - and could mean a lot of trouble with Consumer Protection. Not only in Sweden, but all over Europe. And I guess in the US, too.

Alternatively, they knew from the beginning that they will rip off their clients and put the "business"-paragraph into their TOS, planing to refer to it once the whole operation blows up.

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May 07, 2014, 04:10:09 PM
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Alternatively, they knew from the beginning that they will rip off their clients and put the "business"-paragraph into their TOS, planing to refer to it once the whole operation blows up.

Perhaps a little harsh, but yes, this was deliberately added to remove any fallback on consumer protection laws.
Bitcoinorama shilled really hard to make it sound like it didn't matter, but hey, he was wrong.
Haven't seen him around much since he got paid, have we?

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May 07, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
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Alternatively, they knew from the beginning that they will rip off their clients and put the "business"-paragraph into their TOS, planing to refer to it once the whole operation blows up.

Perhaps a little harsh, but yes, this was deliberately added to remove any fallback on consumer protection laws.
Bitcoinorama shilled really hard to make it sound like it didn't matter, but hey, he was wrong.
Haven't seen him around much since he got paid, have we?

Last time I saw him was at the BTC Conference in Austin back in.. March?
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May 07, 2014, 04:21:37 PM
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Alternatively, they knew from the beginning that they will rip off their clients and put the "business"-paragraph into their TOS, planing to refer to it once the whole operation blows up.

Perhaps a little harsh, but yes, this was deliberately added to remove any fallback on consumer protection laws.
Bitcoinorama shilled really hard to make it sound like it didn't matter, but hey, he was wrong.
Haven't seen him around much since he got paid, have we?

This was my impression, too. And funny enough: Guess who's dealing with such TOS which try to rip off clients? The Consumer Protection Organisation.....
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May 07, 2014, 05:51:50 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

ImI, a lot of people said there was thermal paste smeared on the chips and it looked like someone tried to clean it off.
"thermal paste is" NO PROOF AT ALL  (They need to test them, right?)
Proof is when the unit reports back as "Saturn"!
Some in the forum had that happen.


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May 07, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Whose "we"?  By June you will be the only one waiting.

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May 07, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
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We wait until June to see what will happen


Whose "we"?  By June you will be the only one waiting.

I´m also waiting for my neppys.

Anybody else, or have you guys all refunded, Titaned or Frankened up?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348957.0
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May 07, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
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"thermal paste is" NO PROOF AT ALL  (They need to test them, right?)


yes they need to test so they only send out the broken ones!

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May 07, 2014, 06:11:30 PM
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SOME COULD BE INTERESTED IN THE COMPANY THEY ARE BUYING FROM

Or, to be more precise, who sits on the board of KNC: The name of the "angel" is Brock Pierce and he is one of the speakers/Panelists at the upcoming Bitcoin Conference, Amsterdam 2014.

Here's a bit more about him: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-case-699828
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May 07, 2014, 06:25:04 PM
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KnCMiner is associated with pedophiles.
Wow! What comes next ?!

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May 07, 2014, 06:41:58 PM
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"thermal paste is" NO PROOF AT ALL  (They need to test them, right?)
yes they need to test so they only send out the broken ones!
OMG! ROFL    brilliant!


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May 07, 2014, 07:01:35 PM
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I´m also waiting for my neppys.

Anybody else, or have you guys all refunded, Titaned or Frankened up?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348957.0

I'm still holding out.

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May 07, 2014, 07:07:54 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

ImI, a lot of people said there was thermal paste smeared on the chips and it looked like someone tried to clean it off.
"thermal paste is" NO PROOF AT ALL  (They need to test them, right?)
Proof is when the unit reports back as "Saturn"!
Some in the forum had that happen.

I had some boards with dust sitting on them as well

Prepare to enter a world of stress
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May 07, 2014, 07:11:42 PM
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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

Same issue, been 5 weeks for a USD refund of 1 unit and they keep delaying.   
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May 07, 2014, 07:39:34 PM
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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

Same issue, been 5 weeks for a USD refund of 1 unit and they keep delaying.   

Ask for refund in BTC, because wire transfers look bad on the annual finance report.

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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

Same issue, been 5 weeks for a USD refund of 1 unit and they keep delaying.   

Ask for refund in BTC, because wire transfers look bad on the annual finance report.

I refunded 3 Neptunes for BTC and had a bad experience.   

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May 07, 2014, 08:17:51 PM
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31 days after my Refund request Anna keep rolling the same " it will be transferred in few weeks" .

One month lies and BS.

Is it sure that the bank accounts of KNC are still not blocked by Swedish government?

Something start smell here. 1 Month for refund is really a lot, even for cheap bastards like KNC.

Just to remind you guys:

Don't send any Money to KNC. Don't buy any nonrefundable hardware from them.

KNC is SCAM NOW and they going to score Fraud of 2014. Hold on for Q5

Same issue, been 5 weeks for a USD refund of 1 unit and they keep delaying.    

Ask for refund in BTC, because wire transfers look bad on the annual finance report.

I refunded 3 Neptunes for BTC and had a bad experience.  



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May 07, 2014, 08:33:04 PM
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i read alot about those frankenjups being built from used parts. is there any proof for that? i mean was there dust in the coolers or something like that?

Thermal paste and fingerprints all over the place on the cards. Some of them smell like mold.
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KnCMiner is associated with pedophiles.
Wow! What comes next ?!

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