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May 08, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
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All of my first shipment boards hash, several with dead dies and all run HOT. I've had to underclock/volt to get them to run at safe temps. I'm getting about 2.5THs total.

All of my units came scrambled with some of the heatsinks completely off the chips. But I didn't have any loose parts falling out. Since my first shipment arrived, one of the heatsink fans quit working. The heatsinks are cheap i30 knockoffs and probably well used.

I was also shipped 18 replacement boards so I stupidly ordered 2 more controllers, 12 i30s and 2 1300 EVGA gold PSUs. Of course KNC doesn't provide the IDC ribbon cable nor do they give you the specs for them so of course I ordered the wrong ones.

But while I've waited for the cables, I've tested several of the 2nd batch boards and they do indeed work. Although I'm seeing something strange that I've never seen mentioned before. I get no temperature reading on the main page stats for 3 of the boards that I've tested. I do get temp readings under the advanced tab though. Anyone know what that's about?
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May 08, 2014, 07:53:45 PM
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My replacements should be here tomorrow, Ill be recording the opening of that box!
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May 08, 2014, 08:06:56 PM
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Good luck, but I think that miners are, essentially, addicts of bitcoin.
I would like to break the habit, so no more orders from me.
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May 08, 2014, 08:10:32 PM
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http://i58.tinypic.com/2gvm2y0.jpg

Sgt. Moth wins the "Boobie prize" for best pic of the year,
as well as 1st place in the "Who got the most broken parts" contest.
That's just Franken-nasty! Wow.  How many thousands did that mess cost again? shish. That was a single machine?
I think I'd start crying if I opened my box and saw that.

But ooh, Kurt Anna says it's okay to plug those in...    omg.

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No worries Moth...  shouldn't effect the performance any.  Shocked



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May 08, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
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Bfl-tripled my investment- would never ever ever order again
Bitmain- i have 7- S1, shipped fast, almost headache free/my wireless acts up once in a while. -might order again
Hashfast- never bought
cointerra-never bought
knc- second owner of jupiter, first owner of superbroke'back jupiter(not sure how screwed i am yet, might be able to fix these)
Spond- never ordered, prob in the future will

Bottom line for me, I will never pre order again.


*LOL, All my bfl's work great still.

If you know me you know I am not a BFL fan by any means, but can you possibly imagine what a reputation they would have had they delivered orders within 60 days of people placing an order!??!?!  Holy Shit could you imagine having a Mini-Rig in June of 2013??

They would have created a lot of rich people. They had the entire market to themselves and they could have done great for their customers but they chose the dark side.

<sigh>


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May 08, 2014, 09:32:18 PM
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All of my first shipment boards hash, several with dead dies and all run HOT. I've had to underclock/volt to get them to run at safe temps. I'm getting about 2.5THs total.

All of my units came scrambled with some of the heatsinks completely off the chips. But I didn't have any loose parts falling out. Since my first shipment arrived, one of the heatsink fans quit working. The heatsinks are cheap i30 knockoffs and probably well used.

I was also shipped 18 replacement boards so I stupidly ordered 2 more controllers, 12 i30s and 2 1300 EVGA gold PSUs. Of course KNC doesn't provide the IDC ribbon cable nor do they give you the specs for them so of course I ordered the wrong ones.

But while I've waited for the cables, I've tested several of the 2nd batch boards and they do indeed work. Although I'm seeing something strange that I've never seen mentioned before. I get no temperature reading on the main page stats for 3 of the boards that I've tested. I do get temp readings under the advanced tab though. Anyone know what that's about?

i get this too, half of my boards dont display a temperature

also sometimes my machine starts showing 0ghs on the knc interface but at my pool it repoerts hashing

faulty used gear...yum... i got baned from knc for calling sam cole a dirty criminal lel

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May 08, 2014, 10:11:14 PM
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Sorry, but this sounds like a lot of bullshit. We are NOT a great community. In fact, i am starting to think that bitcoin is a scam.
Facts are simply NOT in your favor.
Among hardware:
Hashfast-scam
cointerra-scammy with bad quiality and underperformance?
BFL-super scam
KnC-used to be pretty good, now-I don't know yet.
Bitmain-mostly not scam, but poor shipping habits for S2
Spond-not a scam yet, we'll see later on.

Plus-MtGox was a scam, people lost much money.
add to this endless attacks on pools-no doubt from someone in this "community".
This bitcoin nonsense makes me seriously pissed.

I have a feeling that i would have to writeoff my bitcoin adventure pretty soon.

Bitcoin is in need of serious escrow service. We laugh at PayPal, and forget that people love them because of 45-days refund system. I've been burned heavily buying BTC hardware and have no doubts that will get burned again in the future.

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May 08, 2014, 10:18:22 PM
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Sorry, but this sounds like a lot of bullshit. We are NOT a great community. In fact, i am starting to think that bitcoin is a scam.
Facts are simply NOT in your favor.
Among hardware:
Hashfast-scam
cointerra-scammy with bad quiality and underperformance?
BFL-super scam
KnC-used to be pretty good, now-I don't know yet.
Bitmain-mostly not scam, but poor shipping habits for S2
Spond-not a scam yet, we'll see later on.

Plus-MtGox was a scam, people lost much money.
add to this endless attacks on pools-no doubt from someone in this "community".
This bitcoin nonsense makes me seriously pissed.

I have a feeling that i would have to writeoff my bitcoin adventure pretty soon.

Bitcoin is in need of serious escrow service. We laugh at PayPal, and forget that people love them because of 45-days refund system. I've been burned heavily buying BTC hardware and have no doubts that will get burned again in the future.

That was a a very good point.

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May 08, 2014, 10:38:57 PM
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Sorry, but this sounds like a lot of bullshit. We are NOT a great community. In fact, i am starting to think that bitcoin is a scam.
Facts are simply NOT in your favor.
Among hardware:
Hashfast-scam
cointerra-scammy with bad quiality and underperformance?
BFL-super scam
KnC-used to be pretty good, now-I don't know yet.
Bitmain-mostly not scam, but poor shipping habits for S2
Spond-not a scam yet, we'll see later on.

Plus-MtGox was a scam, people lost much money.
add to this endless attacks on pools-no doubt from someone in this "community".
This bitcoin nonsense makes me seriously pissed.

I have a feeling that i would have to writeoff my bitcoin adventure pretty soon.

Bitcoin is in need of serious escrow service. We laugh at PayPal, and forget that people love them because of 45-days refund system. I've been burned heavily buying BTC hardware and have no doubts that will get burned again in the future.

Maybe we have to look back. As a Bitcoin-enthusiast, I sometimes was not as critical against other people as I should have been. But when I look at KnC today, at Robocoin, at the Bitcoin Foundation: I see a lot of faces which I saw years ago in the press because of some huge scams and frauds. Big money has come into the former Bitcoin community. Big - grey - money. And the community didn't care. It is time to start to care. Then - and only then - we can avoid that we will have huge companies like banks which take over everything.
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May 08, 2014, 10:43:06 PM
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knc are fucking idiot cunts

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May 09, 2014, 04:00:39 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards


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May 09, 2014, 04:23:40 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards

the only way it would make sense is to set up a mineral oil vat so you can you ditch the cost of heatsink/fans and dealing with heat and then make octofrankenjupiter where you have 48 boards in a vat and stash it in an old barn next to a powertower that you tap into for free

and of course set up a hotspot wireless zone there too



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May 09, 2014, 04:53:09 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards


I have a local guy who did just that for me. He works out of his house but dude is totally awesome and fixed 5 boards for me (re soldered the knocked off pieces) all in an hours time. 4 out of the 5 cards worked and hashed just fine, Don't know what happened to the last one. Just never powered up. I can see if I can work out a deal with him if anyone wants to have their boards fixed. Price seemed fair @ $40.00 per board...


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May 09, 2014, 05:15:41 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards


I have a local guy who did just that for me. He works out of his house but dude is totally awesome and fixed 5 boards for me (re soldered the knocked off pieces) all in an hours time. 4 out of the 5 cards worked and hashed just fine, Don't know what happened to the last one. Just never powered up. I can see if I can work out a deal with him if anyone wants to have their boards fixed. Price seemed fair @ $40.00 per board...




The 'fixing the boards' might be the easy part.

I claim to posess the skills to repair them also.
There are people who like to solder everywhere.

The issue is trust, hand carry local and trust is high.
Ship them anywhere and shit could get out of hand easily.

I'd want a working board for my efforts, but I know what the potential is, where a local lab rat may not.

Even though I'd love to even get a few hours hands on on a Nov board I recommend a local 'while you wait' repair if possible.
I suggest avoiding dudes making claims on threads!
(yes that includes me)

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May 09, 2014, 06:16:25 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards

I live about 40 miles away from this place. Never seen the place, but I'm pretty sure they're using a lot of temp agency for rework jobs. In this area, some businesses would spend 10 cents to save a nickel. I did some solder work recently near here. I'm not saying that you don't have a good idea, I just wouldn't send it to SW Michigan.

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May 09, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards

I live about 40 miles away from this place. Never seen the place, but I'm pretty sure they're using a lot of temp agency for rework jobs. In this area, some businesses would spend 10 cents to save a nickel. I did some solder work recently near here. I'm not saying that you don't have a good idea, I just wouldn't send it to SW Michigan.
Yeah, was just an example... If it were me, I'd have been to Radio shack getting supplies to try the moment I found out they didn't want them back for RMA...   I actually have a "magic" cold heat pen that would be perfect for this job like this...
I highly recommend it for beginners.   http://science.howstuffworks.com/cold-heat.htm
Hell, I bet I could just lay one of those caps back in its place, wet with flux and use a crude butane iron to touch that solder with and be done.
But the cold heat pen is really quick and easy, clean, and way safer.
Hope I inspired someone is all...    Tongue

its also easy to test a capacitor or resistor for viability.    http://www.ehow.com/how_7800310_check-defective-resistor-capacitor.html
you can get equivalent parts cheap right at radio shack for the bad ones.

Vrms....  good luck. I'd trash those pcb's probably, but you may find a source and the skill... that's where I'd "draw the line" personally


*On a different note tho...   the way those came loose so easily, even wrapped tightly in bubble-wrap leads me to logically deduct two distinct Possible causes...
1. The soldering points were not done properly... like a shortage of flux or not enough heat.
   ---OR ---
2. The component connections became brittle after being used at high temperature for an extended period of time.

But... then we have the hostname reports saturn-NNN  posted in the forum, which pretty much puts it into possibility fact 2, with the added possibility of #1 still.
Which could only mean one thing in my mind...  they pulled all that equipment off the shelf at Boden to make SuperJupiters. The facts just say so.


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May 09, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit
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May 09, 2014, 09:52:31 AM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit

Think i was one of the first CA orders (#115XX) and one of the last that requested a refund. It hurts my tiny miner heart a little bit but it was to much mess here and no possibility to ROI the amount of refunded BTC with my electricity price. Sad
We'll see us again in the next winter - when KnC is still here (i hope so) and learned from the mistakes.
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May 09, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
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Order 111xx requested a refund, bank details RE-submitted and accepted on the 23rd April...


BTC offered & not accepted, waiting for CASH


Although i'm now considering BTC just to get it over & done with

Personally, I would just take the BTC and be done with it. There is always the risk (although very small) that this could get "goxed"

Cheers

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May 09, 2014, 11:26:46 AM
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Order 111xx requested a refund, bank details RE-submitted and accepted on the 23rd April...


BTC offered & not accepted, waiting for CASH


Although i'm now considering BTC just to get it over & done with

Personally, I would just take the BTC and be done with it. There is always the risk (although very small) that this could get "goxed"

Cheers

I don't believe they get goxed or insolvent or anything like that. Just think they'll need some longer for the Neptunes or they don't bring many more then 3TH.
Why not accepting a BTC refund and sell it then for your CASH?
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