bensam1231
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December 22, 2016, 10:47:25 AM |
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Ah I'm sorry, next time I'll nicely insult you instead. That's what happens when you take up a position directly the opposite of someone else and you continually try to assert it. You want to try and force devs into pandering to your ancient hardware, I took up the position of 'no, sell it, buy new hardware like a legitimate miner' you said 'no make my ancient hardware better!'.
It really doesn't matter what you say you were coming from a losing position in the first place simply because developers can only make software so fast and efficient, even for old hardware. It really doesn't matter how much time they spend on it. Spending time on hardware older then Maxwell isn't even worth it anyway for the aforementioned reasons of the majority of miners being on maxwell or newer hardware...
You've been twisting his words and insulting him from the very start of this stupid argument since Dec 18. He never tried to "force devs into pandering to his ancient hardware", you made this up in your head, it all even started with not him but some other user politely asking whether it's possible to compile a compute 2.0 version of 0.5b. Yet another user then asked why not just buy a new card. QuintLeo answered to that user, trying to explain in detail how there's still a lot of folks with older cards and some of those cards are still reasonably efficient etc. That's when you joined the conversation, and you immediately lost your shit there, insulting and twisting his words from the very start. I'm personally one of those miners that only keep the most current/efficient hardware, which is gtx 1070 / rx 480 in my case. But I also understand those people that keep using older gen stuff, like QuintLeo and others - there's indeed quite a few of reasons for that. It may be not the most efficient way to mine (selling older cards and buying modern ones usually pays off in the long run), but it's not even the point here anymore. The point is you're trying to force you worldview on other people through insults and making shit up - that's like 50% of your posts: first you twist your opponent's words (so that it's a lot easier to attack him), and then you hit with the insults. An approach like this never makes you win any argument, you're on the losing side instead, just assumed to be a troll not worth arguing with. I like when you just randomly quote posts with no actual bearing to the conversation. I actually took time to click on links. First link isn't even related to what I responded to, this is what I responded to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707546.msg17218530#msg17218530 (I don't even know why I need to link this it's literally quoted in the first post I replied to, it's almost like you don't think I know what I responded to) To which he was basically trying to make a point that most users have old hardware or there is a 'huge demand' for such a thing comparing it to AMD, which is absolute BS. As I've mentioned before (in the post you link to), what AMD does has no place in a thread about Nvidia mining? Why? Because this is a miner for Nvidia hardware and designed for it. If you back in time for Nvidia it's basically Pascal or Maxwell for mining, there is no point in either catering for or making a argument for older hardware, which he was trying to do. Something about trying to make a point of 'small miners' not being able to buy current gen equipment, which is also bullshit. Money can be used to purchase any hardware. Hell that's one of the other big points I made about him buying trash can hardware because people on Ethereum forums think four year old GPUs are going to be a good idea for the long run. I'm really just reiterating what I said there, you being a archiver of the internet I'm sure can just go read it there. And no, insults took a back seat to all the other points I made, some of which I reiterated right here. Here is a big one that you seemed to miss out on when you were rewriting history with embedded links that you expect no one to check, lets just do it again, why the do you assume people mining on 280s has any relevance in a thread about Nvidia mining, Nvidia mining purchases, or Nvidia miner development? It doesn't? Oh... Okay... And yeah I treat ignorance with insults, because we already jumped through the hoops of making points. Lets not forget that finger was pointed both ways, I am also accused of being 'ignorant'. Oh wait, only I insult other people? Gosh... It's almost like we have another case of hypocrisy here. (This isn't the first time I've had a run in with Quint, he was a firm believer in 1070s not being able to eclipse 200sols in the Silentarmy thread or get anywhere close to AMD due to the memory interface) As far as winning goes... You basically said exactly the same thing I did and the post Quit originally responded to was saying: "I'm personally one of those miners that only keep the most current/efficient hardware, which is gtx 1070 / rx 480 in my case." Yup. Because expecting four year old hardware that just happened to work out well on a niche algo like Dagger work just as well on Equihash or any other algorithm is a pipe dream. Oh wait, it's almost like I already said that. Glad we're in agreement, now it's your turn to tell Quint to bugger off. Oh and for reference Compute 2.0 devices aren't even profitable to mine on, just as a FYI to what people were talking about. Compute 5.0 is Maxwell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#GPUs_supportedKnock yourself out with good'ol Quint here (half of what he wrote was disproven by other forum members in the following page): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666489.msg16909529#msg16909529
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Ohranoid
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December 22, 2016, 10:51:38 AM |
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GTX 1070: 315-325 sol (Windows 10). How to receive 360 sol?
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Psynthax
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December 22, 2016, 11:02:42 AM |
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GTX 1070: 315-325 sol (Windows 10). How to receive 360 sol?
You need to overclock
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bensam1231
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December 22, 2016, 11:07:11 AM |
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EWBF please add the ability to run multiple instances of the miner (or threads) when starting the miner. Adding one extra instance increases hashrate by +10%.
Try it yourself, launch two instances of the miner and look at the combined hashrates and GPU utilization.
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Ohranoid
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December 22, 2016, 11:15:04 AM |
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GTX 1070: 315-325 sol (Windows 10). How to receive 360 sol?
You need to overclock already done memory +600 (stock 270-290 sol)
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Psynthax
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December 22, 2016, 11:21:10 AM |
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Dont know then.. I get 350sols/s with +100 core and +700 memory, with latest version
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December 22, 2016, 12:08:13 PM |
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Dont know then.. I get 350sols/s with +100 core and +700 memory, with latest version
Any specific 1070 model? I consider buying founders edition or inno3d iChill X4 8GB. Which one would you choose?
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Psynthax
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December 22, 2016, 12:13:02 PM |
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Those are gigabyte g1 gaming with samsung memory
If I need to choose between those two I would buy inno3d iChill X4
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December 22, 2016, 01:42:36 PM Last edit: December 22, 2016, 02:23:58 PM by jiggytom |
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Any other results on v6? I seem to be getting slightly less performance on 1070. Will have to test more after work.
I had it just stop mining on 2 pcs.. No error. When I clicked back inside the command prompt, it started again.
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December 22, 2016, 02:59:58 PM |
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Any other results on v6? I seem to be getting slightly less performance on 1070. Will have to test more after work.
I had it just stop mining on 2 pcs.. No error. When I clicked back inside the command prompt, it started again.
so no reason to upgrade to v6 only bug fixes? i'm waiting for the speed increase, i know it's still possible, my gpu usage, ranges from 90 to 95%
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alrami
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December 22, 2016, 03:32:32 PM |
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@EWBF: What error 46 mean?
"CUDA devices are busy or unavailable". Use latest version of miner or reduce overclock. I see, but what is better to downclock, core, or memory?
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December 22, 2016, 04:34:06 PM |
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Pool is reporting a slightly higher and more stable hash rate though. Any other results on v6? I seem to be getting slightly less performance on 1070. Will have to test more after work.
I had it just stop mining on 2 pcs.. No error. When I clicked back inside the command prompt, it started again.
so no reason to upgrade to v6 only bug fixes? i'm waiting for the speed increase, i know it's still possible, my gpu usage, ranges from 90 to 95%
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December 22, 2016, 07:14:09 PM |
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I have a friend with gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming , with power limit 70% mem clock + 100mhz gpu clock + 50mhz , have only 295 sol .
Version 6 .
Any settings for boost is appreciated .
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December 22, 2016, 07:40:33 PM |
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I have a friend with gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming , with power limit 70% mem clock + 100mhz gpu clock + 50mhz , have only 295 sol .
Version 6 .
Any settings for boost is appreciated .
mem should be higher, around 400 at least this is my: 55%, 150 core, and 400 mem, but you try 500 or 600 mem, it should do 323 sol with 100 watt
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December 22, 2016, 08:04:20 PM |
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I have a friend with gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming , with power limit 70% mem clock + 100mhz gpu clock + 50mhz , have only 295 sol .
Version 6 .
Any settings for boost is appreciated .
mem should be higher, around 400 at least this is my: 55%, 150 core, and 400 mem, but you try 500 or 600 mem, it should do 323 sol with 100 watt My friend with + 150 mem have crashed , 70% or 50% PL have same problem . I dont understand why , i think micron memory or bios .
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m1n1ngP4d4w4n
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December 22, 2016, 09:01:46 PM Last edit: December 22, 2016, 11:37:57 PM by m1n1ngP4d4w4n |
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I have a friend with gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming , with power limit 70% mem clock + 100mhz gpu clock + 50mhz , have only 295 sol .
Version 6 .
Any settings for boost is appreciated .
mem should be higher, around 400 at least this is my: 55%, 150 core, and 400 mem, but you try 500 or 600 mem, it should do 323 sol with 100 watt My friend with + 150 mem have crashed , 70% or 50% PL have same problem . I dont understand why , i think micron memory or bios . for Zcash it's better to OC core, the memory OC doesn't do alot, set it around +600 but core around +150, also for micron based memory GTX 1070 cards, please check that you are @ the latest bios, most card had the default nvidia bios bug with the micron chip that was doing some voltage instability for memory, it was fixed by card manufacturer bios when fix was released (evga, asus, gigabyte, and so on) and last remember to give a little bit more juice to the core to make it stable. (~15-20% should do the trick). Also take your time to manually OC each card of your rig, some will always perform better than others, will help you grind a few more sols there & there and achieve best stability im @ the moment in my latest configuration 6x GTX 1070 EVGA FTW - Drivers 376.19 Core +150 (real core ~1870Mhz) vCore +15% Mem +675 (real core ~4470Mhz) TDP 50% (~91w per card on nvidia-smi, 692w on wall) Pushing around 1990 Sols/s (~331 sols/s per card) on average with about 0.15 % reject overall. Happy mining
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reb0rn21
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December 22, 2016, 09:16:41 PM |
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nicehash dev sad they will break 400sol/s on 1070 in next release
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Psynthax
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December 22, 2016, 09:46:20 PM |
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nicehash dev sad they will break 400sol/s on 1070 in next release
Yeah I hope EWBF can match the speed, I hate being locked on nicehash
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December 22, 2016, 09:47:15 PM |
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I have a friend with gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming , with power limit 70% mem clock + 100mhz gpu clock + 50mhz , have only 295 sol .
Version 6 .
Any settings for boost is appreciated .
mem should be higher, around 400 at least this is my: 55%, 150 core, and 400 mem, but you try 500 or 600 mem, it should do 323 sol with 100 watt My friend with + 150 mem have crashed , 70% or 50% PL have same problem . I dont understand why , i think micron memory or bios . for Zcash it's better to OC core, the memory OC doesn't do alot, set it around +600 but core around +150, also for micron based memory GTX 1070 cards, please check that you are @ the latest bios, most card had the default nvidia bios bug with the micron chip that was doing some voltage instability for memory, it was fixed by card manufacturer bios when fix was released (evga, asus, gigabyte, and so on) and last remember to give a little bit more juice to the core to make it stable. (~15-20% should do the trick). Also take your time to manually OC each card of your rig, some will always perform better than others, will help you grind a few more sols there & there and achieve best stability im @ the moment in my latest configuration 6x GTX 1070 EVGA FTW - Drivers 376.19 Core +150 (real core ~1870Mhz) vCore +15% Mem +675 (real core ~4470Mhz) TDP 50% (~91w per card, 692w on wall) Pushing around 1990 Sols/s (~331 sols/s per card) on average with about 0.15 % reject overall. Happy mining are you sure about the 692 at the wall with each gpu doing only 91, your system is sitting at 150w? seems too much, most likely your gpu are consuming more or the the whole wattage is wrong
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m1n1ngP4d4w4n
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December 22, 2016, 11:17:06 PM Last edit: December 23, 2016, 01:22:31 AM by m1n1ngP4d4w4n |
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I have a friend with gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming , with power limit 70% mem clock + 100mhz gpu clock + 50mhz , have only 295 sol .
Version 6 .
Any settings for boost is appreciated .
mem should be higher, around 400 at least this is my: 55%, 150 core, and 400 mem, but you try 500 or 600 mem, it should do 323 sol with 100 watt My friend with + 150 mem have crashed , 70% or 50% PL have same problem . I dont understand why , i think micron memory or bios . for Zcash it's better to OC core, the memory OC doesn't do alot, set it around +600 but core around +150, also for micron based memory GTX 1070 cards, please check that you are @ the latest bios, most card had the default nvidia bios bug with the micron chip that was doing some voltage instability for memory, it was fixed by card manufacturer bios when fix was released (evga, asus, gigabyte, and so on) and last remember to give a little bit more juice to the core to make it stable. (~15-20% should do the trick). Also take your time to manually OC each card of your rig, some will always perform better than others, will help you grind a few more sols there & there and achieve best stability im @ the moment in my latest configuration 6x GTX 1070 EVGA FTW - Drivers 376.19 Core +150 (real core ~1870Mhz) vCore +15% Mem +675 (real core ~4470Mhz) TDP 50% (~91w per card, 692w on wall) Pushing around 1990 Sols/s (~331 sols/s per card) on average with about 0.15 % reject overall. Happy mining are you sure about the 692 at the wall with each gpu doing only 91, your system is sitting at 150w? seems too much, most likely your gpu are consuming more or the the whole wattage is wrong There is a difference between what nvidia SMI is showing you, and what you get on the wall, because your PSU isn't 100% efficient, i have 2x 80+ gold 750w PSU's, @about 40% load each so even @ maximum PSU efficiency it's about 90% efficient (@50% load) so nvidia SMI show 91w, it means for each cards about 91 + 10% = ~100w @ wall counting PSU efficiency for each cards, so system+fans are more sitting in the area of 80/90w, starting wattage @ wall is about 130w, before any mining. Guess i should have mentionned it was nvidia SMI mesurements. I posted a screenshot before showing it, will edit my post.
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