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January 10, 2018, 08:40:52 PM |
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It's finite upside vs infinite downside, and he knows.
Like Nassim Taleb (and any proper thinking mathematician), I would think the downside is limited (Bitcoin can't become less than $0) and the upside is unlimited (or: potentially much higher than the downside). The perfect example of an asymmetric bet that Taleb has written extensively about. Yes, yes. I meant downside/upside for someone shorting bitcoin. Andreessen did help a little. Thanks, Wekkel! :-)
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January 10, 2018, 08:59:16 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Meanwhile, the swings continue. They seem narrower. Nearly 14.5k right now (gdax). Bob, do you have that country song ready yet? Festival planning is in Phase 2.
Chatted with my partner this morning. Lowering my exit targets. Don't want to say any more than that for fear of jinxing things. I still don't feel the time is right yet, but "very soon". He brought up the same point as IcyGreen - "Didn't you say you were going to dump $1M @ $10k USD/BTC ?" I am filled with shame for allowing my greed to get the better of me. It's... emasculating... being scolded by a power-bottom, damnit. Either way, will still end up HODLing a very respectable sum of BTC when all is said-and-done. The same "attitude" that made you hodl up to $10000+ is the one that made harder for you to sell at any "non-optimal" price. If you were not like that you would have cashed up way way more earlier. Your greed got the best out of you to get up to here... in fact, we are considerably higher than those $10k! So congrats, and just fucking cash out a little more so you can keep riding this wave without remorses with the rest of your (huge) stash.
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January 10, 2018, 09:22:16 PM |
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Thanks for that article. Andreessen is clear about what gives the value to bitcoin: "So then, the intrinsic value of a BTC is emergent from the functional value of the ledger as a way to exchange value (or, more accurately, emergent from the collective forecast of the future volume and velocity of value that will pass through the ledger). "
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January 10, 2018, 10:05:05 PM |
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So congrats, and just fucking cash out a little more so you can keep riding this wave without remorses with the rest of your (huge) stash.
Ok. Extracted just north of $1M @ $14,500 USD/BTC. Once the wire hits my account, I'll load up for round 2. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fudw231r.jpg&t=665&c=VOiUqFPYputl_w)
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January 10, 2018, 10:14:23 PM |
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I'm looking at this one. The first diagonal line on top.
How does that even make sense??... WTF?? How big of a joker are you? You seem to have lost a lot of coins. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I did TODL to HODL!!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I did TODL YOUDL to HODL your NUDL - Oh yeah, Tera doesn't have a noodle to hodl... ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) but still... should hodl something including little friends, aka bitcoins.
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January 10, 2018, 10:20:40 PM |
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...I think that if your goal was to make an interim cashing out of BTC around the value of 60 BTC at $17k, then you could have started cashing out in 10BTC increments and met the same result with an incrementalism something like this: 1)10 BTC at $14,500, 10 BTC at $15,500, 10 BTC at $16,500, 10 BTC at $17,500, 10 BTC at $18,500, and 10 BTC at $19,500...
Hindsight is a real bitch, huh ? ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) EDIT: Seeing BTC sink below $14k breaks my heart. I'm HODLing, and mentally preparing myself to work another quarter, aiming to exit the workforce in mid-late Q2. At least taking a wait-and-see approach and see how the market is like end of March. I waited too long and got greedy. Now I'm all despondent and stuff. Sheeit. I am not talking about hindsight. I am talking about now sight. I am NOT proposing a personalized system that employs chunkle-ism, but instead one that employs incrementalism from the here and now.
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January 10, 2018, 10:33:51 PM |
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btc price 10 Jan 17 $883 today $14120 I can live with that
I only look at the yearly chart too. Yep, it really depends on how much you initially invested into it. I may not get superrich with it, but it´s a blast. Even if it goes down by half, or so. People forget the timeline here. My bank would have given me one or two percent for my money, per fcking year ! No risk, no fun. You enter the category of "superrich" at 30 million USD. I suspect a lot of the old bitcoiners in this thread are getting fairly close soon. You could be correct for once, fatty patty. However, there could be a bit of a definitional argument here too regarding exactly where the threshold for "super" rich is. Even with a $10 million value in stash, you have the ability to pretty much count on about a $30k per month passive income - which surely seems decently in the super rich category because $30k per month would be coming from passive income. That seems pretty decent to me, so if we 3x that, then we have nearly $100k per month passive income, which surely is better, but I am not sure if such levels of passivity is necessary to be considered "super" rich? But I do see the argument, too, that even though $10million is very comfortably in the rich category, it does not quite get to the "super" rich arena. Maybe in the end, I am coming around to agreeing with you, fatty patty?
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January 10, 2018, 10:37:23 PM |
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Well done Bob. Good bit of work that.
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January 10, 2018, 10:41:38 PM |
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Well done Bob. Good bit of work that.
Gay cowboy finally pulls trigger. It's harder than it seems.
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January 10, 2018, 10:46:26 PM |
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And now we go to 30k. Thanks cowboy!
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January 10, 2018, 10:48:50 PM |
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Gay cowboy finally pulls trigger. It's harder than it seems.
I feel like there's a joke in there somewhere...
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January 10, 2018, 10:49:27 PM |
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So do we expect any action on/around Jan 26th when the first January futures contracts expire? Opinion?
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January 10, 2018, 10:51:53 PM |
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So do we expect any action on/around Jan 26th when the first January futures contracts expire? Opinion?
I expect more action after finex and other big exchanges' registrations open again
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January 10, 2018, 10:56:44 PM |
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chunkle-ism
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I feel like there's a joke in there somewhere... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi3.cpcache.com%2Fproduct%2F1104703174%2Foneeyedwillie_racerback_tank_top.jpg%3Fwidth%3D550%26height%3D550%26Filters%3D%255b%257b%2522name%2522%253a%2522crop%2522%252c%2522value%2522%253a%257b%2522x%2522%253a91.7%252c%2522y%2522%253a0%252c%2522w%2522%253a366.7%252c%2522h%2522%253a440.0%257d%252c%2522sequence%2522%253a1%257d%252c%257b%2522name%2522%253a%2522background%2522%252c%2522value%2522%253a%2522F2F2F2%2522%252c%2522sequence%2522%253a2%257d%255d&t=665&c=pfusurJcIXzLLg) Goonies never say die.
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January 10, 2018, 11:02:24 PM |
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My only doubt about the income Bitcoin run to ATH is that if the total market cap will hit 1 trillion before or after Bitcoin hit 500 billion. This will tell a lot about the future of alts and if they can survive in the long term.
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January 11, 2018, 12:02:50 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8vYFVOU.png&t=665&c=r4Q09qnV193duA) Wow moar lines.
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January 11, 2018, 12:07:21 AM |
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January 11, 2018, 12:07:58 AM |
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Think you just need a few more lines. It's not quite a complete spiderweb yet.
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January 11, 2018, 12:09:34 AM |
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Breaking 24777$ prediction game FINAL LIST 27/12/2017 bikerleszno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 29/12/2018 cAPSLOCK ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 30/12/2017 digithusiast ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 01/01/2018 elg ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 02/01/2018 wachtwoord ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 03/01/2018 JimboToronto ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 04/01/2018 d_eddie ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 05/01/2018 BTCMILLIONAIRE ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 07/01/2018 ghandi ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 08/01/2018 savetherainforrest ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 09/01/2018 explorer ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) 11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire 12/01/2018 speedwheel 13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner 14/01/2018 northypole 15/01/2018 ivomm 16/01/2018 maca068 17/01/2018 bitcoinvest 18/01/2018 last of the v8s 19/01/2018 mfort312 20/01/2018 1982dre 21/01/2018 flamast2 22/01/2018 RealMachasm 23/01/2018 willope 24/01/2018 kartala 25/01/2018 orpington 26/01/2018 rolling 27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin 28/01/2018 jojo69 29/01/2018 CristiTCM 30/01/2018 rayX12 31/01/2018 realsteelboy 01/02/2018 twocorn 02/02/2018 mancroofer 03/02/2018 True Myth 04/02/2018 poolminor 05/02/2018 itod 06/02/2018 scheptan 07/02/2018 vapourminer 08/02/2018 alexeft 09/02/2018 siera 10/02/2018 AlcoHoDL 11/02/2018 Dunkelheit667 12/02/2018 yonton 13/02/2018 Wekkel 14/02/2018 Thekool1s 15/02/2018 starmman 16/02/2018 Globb0 17/02/2018 leveldkrypto 18/02/2018 olesh 19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger 20/02/2018 Paashaas 21/02/2018 flynn 22/02/2018 icygreen 23/02/2018 erisdiscordia 24/02/2018 phil_s 25/02/2018 sirazimuth 26/02/2018 Arriemoller 27/02/2018 yonton 28/02/2018 Muttley 01/03/2018 bones261 02/03/2018 heater 03/03/2018 soullyG 04/03/2018 InvoKing 05/03/2018 Notme 06/03/2018 sa_94 07/03/2018 NUFCrichard 08/03/2018 Imbatman 09/03/2018 Roombot 10/03/2018 STT 11/03/2018 badream 13/03/2018 erre 14/03/2018 julian071 15/03/2018 podyx 17/03/2018 fragout 18/03/2018 fabiorem 21/03/2018 dakustaking76 23/03/2018 nikauforest 31/03/2018 vroom 01/04/2018 somac. 02/04/2018 kurious 04/04/2018 fluidjax 05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny 08/04/2018 tyler1890 10/04/2018 ludwigvon 11/04/2018 hairymaclairy 16/04/2018 practicaldreamer 18/04/2018 free-bit.co.in 27/04/2018 drbrockoin 01/05/2018 sprinkles 02/06/2018 oblox 07/07/2018 IntroVert 03/08/2018 toxic2040 28/08/2018 bitserve 15/10/2018 Yefi 05/11/2018 mikenz 31/12/2018 melman2002 01/01/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original 12/02/2019 FractalUniverse 21/04/2019 gentlemand 20/02/2020 romneymoney 18/12/2021 luckygenough56 NEVER lhvleao UPDATE AND GOOD LUCK
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January 11, 2018, 12:14:45 AM |
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This made me chuckle. Please tell me I'm wrong, or it doesn't matter, or whatever. Explain me why I'm wrong or it doesn't matter, or whatever it is.
Thank you.
Who gives a shit? He openly admits he understands nothing about it. Same goes for most of these talking heads. They could well turn out to be right anyway or pathetically wrong. If you're sensible you extract a certain amount at a certain price anyway and the rest is all fun. I think the old codger lost his edge. Missed crypto, doesn't understand it. Feels a bit butt hurt.
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