Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JayJuanGee]

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I don't like to be very specific to avoid profiling (as if anyone would be interested in profiling me... call me paranoid). I will try though:

1) $100K would be ok. ...

I hope that has covered all the questions without giving more information about me than I would be confident. Oh and I already have a nice home, fine car and am completely DEBT FREE (Not thanks to Bitcoin as I have never cashed out a single penny yet). And no children nor family to support. That makes my current needs very modest and easy to fullfill, even if for the rest of my lifetime (not there YET... unless I were to die in a decade or two).

I think that you have adequately answered all of the questions. so thanks for that.  I don't really believe that we need to disclose any of our specific BTC holdings in order to discuss at what levels of prices would allow us to make substantial life changes due to BTC price rises (or anticipated rises). 

Sometimes you will find me and others baiting posters into disclosing aspects of their BTC holdings and surely any of us will understand if you keep some of your specifics private.

I believe that with a large number of traditional investments, they theorize that you should be able to withdraw around 4% per year from your investment in order to maintain the principle in the long run...   It is possible that bitcoin could perform so well that it allows for higher withdrawal rate levels that would still preserve the principle - including the possibility of 10% per year withdrawals... but conservatively 4% is usually safe with a traditionally diversified portfolio of investments....

so one thing is withdrawing and maintaining the principle, and another thing is if you decide to draw down on your principle as well of course none of us will live for ever and one of the most certain things in our life is that we are going to die.. not meaning to end on a negative note.


NOT.

Dumbass

Which part?  Are you signing and referring to yourself, or did you have some kind of an emotional outburst that you could not contain?.

Might you NOT understand that a large portion of any battle when interacting through quasi-anonymous forums is not to lose your cool? 

The principle seems to apply in real life interactions, too... that is assuming that you are a person rather than a bot.

[wugibugi]

Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST       

UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK  !!!

lets keep the price going almost half way of the target to reach here

Can you insert my vote for 20/7/18?
Thanks

[Toxic2040]

    FINAL LIST       

Can you insert my vote for 20/7/18?
Thanks

Its the goose's game..but, it pretty much says right there..

Otherwise..welcome to the Wall...now go away and make sure you bring cookies next time.

[jbreher]

Really, why are we arguing ANYTHING when CONSENSUS already spoke?

Well, it would seem to be because you barged into a conversation where I was trying to get my accuser to clarify their accusation. We wouldn't be arguing anything at all if you had not.

BTAIM, your points all seem to come down to some magic power of consensus. Is it your assertion that any use of a coin other than that gifted with the consensus of the majority is inherently a scam? If not, I fail to see what your point is. If so, I'll just call you a petty tyrant for forcing others to conform to your desires and be on my way.

[jbreher]

The bottom line is that if the wallet you use can't process pre-fork coins then it is not bitcoin.

Relevance?

Everyone who had coins before the fork.

I still don't see what you're getting at.

Look we all see through you. Just fuck off.

Haha. See through me? What do you see on the other side? Can you substantiate it with anything other than your superman x-ray specs? Just fuck off yourself.

This is the problem with arguing on the internet. If we were all meeting in person, this is the point where you would be punched in the face for being unable to take a hint. And not even necessarily by me.

People like you never admit fault or that the opposition has a point, you just keep talking and talking until people get tired. Doesn't work in the real world, does work where no physical contact is possible. This is your home field.

The thing is, even if we were all meeting in person, I might be tolerated in some small fashion. But even people who don't like me don't like you. You are simply not welcome here.

waaah.

[starmman]

BTC Dominance up to 38.2% now - only 1.8% away from 40%, price looking great today too =)

[jbreher]

Bitcoin.com is not a scam, it is a URL. What is scammy about that? Further, in what way does the existence of such make me a scammer?

jbreher, just stop it.

By definition in the Whitepaper Bitcoin is the chain with greatest accumulated PoW.

I disagree. It is the longest valid chain.  What is valid is up to the collective of users, and different users can have different preferences. Luckily, there is a clear leader in terms of number of users and market cap. However, if bitcoin (core) and bitcoin cash had an equal amount of supporters, we might have a hard time determining which one would be named bitcoin.

The one that supports pre-fork coins. This is not difficult.

What I have been trying to get you to realize is that both Bitcoin Segwit and Bitcoin Cash support pre-fork coins.

This is not difficult.

[mike4001]

BCash is a shitcoin just like all the other Bitcoin XXX....

Wow.  that list is getting a bit long!

WHAT? So much shit already arisen? Bitcoin is one and stick to it. 11500$ is a great price. But the war has only just begin

Thats not even all of them.

There are more Bitcoin forks which are not even at Coinmarketcap

[jbreher]

More importantly it allowed the Bcash team to premine Bcash under everyone’s noses.  

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A premine is when a coin is mined by a select few while forcibly excluding all others. From inception, BitcoinCash was available to be mined to anyone that wanted to direct hashpower to it.

[mike4001]

BTC Dominance up to 38.2% now - only 1.8% away from 40%, price looking great today too =)

Yes, that's great.

I am still leaving ~5% of my Assets in Altcoins ... the pump will come ;-)

[svdleer]

What do you guys think, aren't we going to fast now ?

[jbreher]

and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

 for you to suggest that people are not(still) confused about this issue is ludicrous.

Are you seriously trying to claim that anyone that spent more than a Superbowl's worth of time looking into it cannot tell the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Segwit?

You're either highly naive, or dishonest to say the least and I think you're smart enough not to fall into the former category. I'm pretty sure that everybody on this thread knows how the masses react to branding and aggressive marketing.

Really? Just how much time do you think is required for a newcomer to spend in order to clearly delineate the difference between Bitcoin Segwit and Bitcoin Cash?

[mike4001]

What do you guys think, aren't we going to fast now ?

We are still in recovery - this can go fast.

I think the price we could hold before all the dumping/crashing happened was 15k to 17k.

Once we reach this again I am ready for some sideways "action".

[xhomerx10]

What do you guys think, aren't we going to fast now ?

 This is old ground we're covering.  Once we get through the ~$12k resitance, you will see too fast.

[jbreher]

and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

 for you to suggest that people are not(still) confused about this issue is ludicrous.

Are you seriously trying to claim that anyone that spent more than a Superbowl's worth of time looking into it cannot tell the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Segwit?

You're not being very flattering to the typical bcash holder.

I don't follow. Exactly where are you finding the notion put forth that Bitcoin Segwit and Bitcoin Cash are the exact same asset?

[Totscha]

and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

 for you to suggest that people are not(still) confused about this issue is ludicrous.

Are you seriously trying to claim that anyone that spent more than a Superbowl's worth of time looking into it cannot tell the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Segwit?

You're not being very flattering to the typical bcash holder.

I don't follow. Exactly where are you finding the notion put forth that Bitcoin Segwit and Bitcoin Cash are the exact same asset?

The average guy from the street has no idea what the difference is. That's the point.

[jbreher]

and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

 for you to suggest that people are not(still) confused about this issue is ludicrous.

Are you seriously trying to claim that anyone that spent more than a Superbowl's worth of time looking into it cannot tell the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Segwit?

You're not being very flattering to the typical bcash holder.

I don't follow. Exactly where are you finding the notion put forth that Bitcoin Segwit and Bitcoin Cash are the exact same asset?

The average guy from the street has no idea what the difference is. That's the point.

The average guy from the street has no idea what Bitcoin is, period. Again, I fail to see the point. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

The forks are clearly delineated. Bitcoin Segwit is proud to tout its inclusion of segwit. Bitcoin Cash is proud to tout its exclusion of segwit. These differentiators are not hard to discover.

[HairyMaclairy]

1000 hp CCMF?  I’m in.

[Wekkel]

Let’s do $50k instead of only 40.

[savetherainforest]

Go Bitcoin Go!

So... its not 90 days!

It will be somewhere between 40 < > 70 days. Then 80% of that (meaning 35 < > 55 days), and after that 30-50 days. And then I don't eFing know anymore.