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January 15, 2020, 03:55:02 PM

looks like the SV pump has shot its bolt

glad I dumped near the top
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January 15, 2020, 03:55:47 PM

looks like the SV pump has shot its bolt

glad I dumped near the top

Hopefully they transfer it into bitcoin?
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January 15, 2020, 03:55:58 PM
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That 24h volume is looking nice.

ATH in volume?

Interesting, I don’t know though. How do you check that stat?



Looking at Coinmarketcap charts.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

Looks like to me 24h volume has touched 45B but not surpassed it. So if we keep going up it should be all time highs for sure.

For total market cap with bitcoin and alts we are at all time highs in volume.
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January 15, 2020, 04:01:19 PM

Guys don't embarrass yourself by posting shitty confiq.

Pointing at 2 friendly fellas ..........

Edit : Even one of you deleted the post  Wink
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January 15, 2020, 04:10:20 PM

looks like the SV pump has shot its bolt

glad I dumped near the top

Hopefully they transfer it into bitcoin?

Only the smart ones Smiley
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January 15, 2020, 04:13:47 PM

5 Merit’s available for the first poster to help me confirm 100% the exact time the price crosses $9,000 on Bitstamp.

I want to be precise & exact on who the winner is.

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January 15, 2020, 04:14:06 PM

Guys don't embarrass yourself by posting shitty confiq.

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I thought I was using a good system 😉
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That’s very readable in the pic  Cheesy
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January 15, 2020, 04:43:32 PM

Fake  Wink

That’s very readable in the pic  Cheesy

^^^

Yes, fake for sure,

but this looks quiete real:

Good morning, HODLers.




https://twitter.com/BXRekt

So let's go up for a while...
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January 15, 2020, 04:57:49 PM
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Stock-to-flow model.

"Stock to flow" does not apply to Ponzi scams.  I don't know if any of you noobs understand economics at all - and I wasn't there to personally witness the event or personally audit all the bookkeeping - but the great depression involved a liquidity deficit.  Some claim it was an engineered depression by the banks, others claim it's not; who knows, that doesn't matter for this discussion.  What matters is that if Bitcoin was actually the unit of account of anything (I.E. the world reserve currency and everything is priced in Bitcoin), the halving itself is a liquidity implosion similar to the great depression.

With Bitcoin not being the unit of account of anything it doesn't really matter because it just functions as a meaningless pump and dump scam, but if you actually tried to price everything in the world in Bitcoin it would be laughable. What type of "monetary system" do you know of where every vendor on the planet needs to massively adjust all their prices every four years?  None exists because anything with such stupid mechanics always dies because anything operating with such dynamics is a Ponzi scam.  The purpose of a monetary unit is to provide price stability, not be unstable by default.

In terms of having an actual functioning economic system, the 'halving' is a monetary crisis, not some sort of benefit.  The only people who view it as beneficial are pump and dump scammers hoping it allows them to make money off algorithmically designed, large volatility.  If Bitcoin was designed to actually be useful as a unit of account for something instead of a Ponzi scam, the block reward would be static eternally.  The government creators of Bitcoin who want it to function as a cashless society slavery system where everything you do is monitored in real-time knew it would be impossible to try and get anyone to use Bitcoin with an infinite, static block reward over metals, so they designed it as a get rich quick scheme, Ponzi scam to later be adjusted or replaced when it eventually fails due to having no use case beyond a pump and dump scam.
Thank you very much for your realr0ach point of view,

I respect his way of thinking about these scenarios, historically gold is always the best way out of the crisis, Bitcoin is undoubted protagonist today, in my case, I give much importance to both the investment and the refuge of the value that It represents, although many economists do not recommend it because it is volatile.
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January 15, 2020, 05:18:36 PM

looks like the SV pump has shot its bolt

glad I dumped near the top

Hopefully they transfer it into bitcoin?

Csw says he will sell off his holding and put it into bitcoin
I would take that to mean his own version of bitcoin B-SV.
Thus causing the pump up of his shitcoin hence the 100% rise in price.
The fomo craze ensued.
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January 15, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
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Stock-to-flow model.

"Stock to flow" does not apply to Ponzi scams.  I don't know if any of you noobs understand economics at all - and I wasn't there to personally witness the event or personally audit all the bookkeeping - but the great depression involved a liquidity deficit.  Some claim it was an engineered depression by the banks, others claim it's not; who knows, that doesn't matter for this discussion.  What matters is that if Bitcoin was actually the unit of account of anything (I.E. the world reserve currency and everything is priced in Bitcoin), the halving itself is a liquidity implosion similar to the great depression.

With Bitcoin not being the unit of account of anything it doesn't really matter because it just functions as a meaningless pump and dump scam, but if you actually tried to price everything in the world in Bitcoin it would be laughable. What type of "monetary system" do you know of where every vendor on the planet needs to massively adjust all their prices every four years?  None exists because anything with such stupid mechanics always dies because anything operating with such dynamics is a Ponzi scam.  The purpose of a monetary unit is to provide price stability, not be unstable by default.

In terms of having an actual functioning economic system, the 'halving' is a monetary crisis, not some sort of benefit.  The only people who view it as beneficial are pump and dump scammers hoping it allows them to make money off algorithmically designed, large volatility.  If Bitcoin was designed to actually be useful as a unit of account for something instead of a Ponzi scam, the block reward would be static eternally.  The government creators of Bitcoin who want it to function as a cashless society slavery system where everything you do is monitored in real-time knew it would be impossible to try and get anyone to use Bitcoin with an infinite, static block reward over metals, so they designed it as a get rich quick scheme, Ponzi scam to later be adjusted or replaced when it eventually fails due to having no use case beyond a pump and dump scam.
Thank you very much for your realr0ach point of view,

I respect his way of thinking about these scenarios, historically gold is always the best way out of the crisis, Bitcoin is undoubted protagonist today, in my case, I give much importance to both the investment and the refuge of the value that It represents, although many economists do not recommend it because it is volatile.


For those of us who can handle the volatility of BTC (and possible perceived risks of an investment/speculation we do not fully understand), BTC is a great piece of diversification.  

I hodl enough BTC so that if it moons in price, I benefit nicely.  But, I am not the kind of guy who likes putting too many single investment eggs into my basket.  Especially now that I am aging (older than most of you).

Do recall that anyone hodling ANY BTC already is way ahead of the game, as so few (6% of Americans?, though that seems way high to me) hodl any BTC.  Thus, should it moon (an excellent probability, IMO, of it doing so), only we 6% will be winners.  I do not need to be a #YugeWinner to be content with entering this arena (nor a #YugeLoser should BTC collapse).  My hodlings are enough to bring me a Big Smile should we exceed BTC's ATH.  Bring it.

As our European friend "el_duderino" has long written: "This is fine" and "This is HODL".

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I still do not understand the antipathy of BTC hodlers to gold.  (Of course, you can see the opposite too, look zerohedge FUD-ers)

Gold and BTC are, in essence, both assets outside the $IMFS (our financial system).  But they are somewhat different in their price movements as well as their various other properties.  They are different "vectors" if you will.  That's why I like them both!  

Precious metals and BTC are natural and complementary allies.



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January 15, 2020, 05:56:10 PM

looks like the SV pump has shot its bolt

glad I dumped near the top

Hopefully they transfer it into bitcoin?

Csw says he will sell off his holding and put it into bitcoin
I would take that to mean his own version of bitcoin B-SV.
Thus causing the pump up of his shitcoin hence the 100% rise in price.
The fomo craze ensued.

So say CW has the tulip trust kesy and 1.1 million BTC. According to the court 1/2 will go to the Klieman estate...so he now loses 50% control. Then you take taxes on the works at 15% (in usa on cap gains ..unsure of australia) he is 15% down further on his 1/2 of supposed tulip trust coins.

The Klieman Estate would be in the same boat, but I assume they would act towards BTC Core in a responsible manner.

I also can't see how CW could destroy BTC Core without the destruction of a lot of his new found 'supposed' weatlh. Thus I suspect if all this

horror happens to be true and he has tulip trust keys he will simply behave responsibly with the BTC core stuff...no matter how much he

wants to be the 'true' BTC. It is greed don't ya know. This way his meglomania if he did act responsibly would postion him as the individual in the

world with the most BTC/BCH/BSV with these legacy BTC addresses. He will simply have too much fun with this and his ego to burn half

of his above fortune to drive BTC Core and BCH out of existence. So if he did act responsibly he keeps all the BTC core value and his BSV

probabaly (shudder) would get to 1K ...so why f*ck with the economics of just talking the talk but leaving your massive fortune intact?

Of course, if CW has the keys, even if he can control his 'meglomania' to simply shouting how great he is and Satoshi garbage...we will be

hearing from this nut for years. I myself would kinda like him to sell all his BTC-Core bit by bit over time to BSV. I would take 10k out

in a loan just to take that BTC away from him. Again, I can not see the BTC Core Whales and others not pushing back on him. He is so

despised, at worst if he tried to sell in mass everyone would say 'good' and buy his BTC Core coins to make him less relevant.

Anyway, the above horror fiction can't be true. I suspect at worst...CW will show the judge some address with some of his early

mining BTC inside...at best...and say that it seems the tulip trust did not give him full access and only partial access to tulip trust..so

sad he will say and dump the BSV on the pump and walk away with even more $$$ that are not connected to the court ruling. Sad

Anyway, as usual in HODL mode, worse case we have 4k BTC-Core coin till everyone like me gobbles it back up away from the CW nut.

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January 15, 2020, 05:57:09 PM
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I still do not understand the antipathy of BTC hodlers to gold.  (Of course, you can see the opposite too, look zerohedge FUD-ers)

We do not have antipathy for gold. It's mostly because of r0ach that we don't want to hear any more about it. In fact, yes, I think I have developed a little antipathy for gold due to this.

But I still think its time as a safe asset for store of value is not over yet. And I reckon having some amount in gold would not hurt as it is another perfectly fine hedge asset.
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January 15, 2020, 06:01:37 PM

Guys don't embarrass yourself by posting shitty confiq.

Pointing at 2 friendly fellas ..........

Edit : Even one of you deleted the post  Wink
I thought I was using a good system 😉

Sorry bro our work department is different so its normal (don't blame yourself) and i would be very surprise if in this bitcointalk forum someone able to match my configurations unless s-he works in blizzard or pixar and i hope you believe me but i hate to say,  the only guy i think who can come close in "our beloved roachie" if he's true to his words...
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January 15, 2020, 06:03:05 PM

I just bought 100,000 of CW's imaginary coins.

On the fake exchange in my head.

For real gold.
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