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[Dabs]

You got out before the volcano's first eruption? (The first one is steam only with ash, the second one, still hasn't happened, but may still happen ...)

[mindrust]

Is that muscled boomer... Peter Schiff? Basturd. How dare you do that to samson!

[Globb0]

What did you dream?

Its OK we told you what to dream!

We've taken care of everything



the books you read



the songs you sing



the pictures that give pleasure to your eye

[JayJuanGee]

UPDATE: In a new filing Tuesday, Ira Kleiman's attorneys said Craig Wright produced more than 16,000 bitcoin addresses but no information about the bonded courier, who the plaintiffs wish to depose.
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1217250185690128389?s=20

LATEST: In a new filing, Craig Wright says he received the necessary information to unencrypt the so-called “Tulip Trust.”
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1217233377738264578?s=20

Always lies and lies, sell off following soon?

ROFL I just don't know how the courts don't tire of his shit and just throw him out on his ass. Total farce

I don't know if the court has any kind of dilemma about locking him up.   Of course, there could be some concerns that his ability to earn money is reduced if locked up, but if it is just a matter of getting access to capital / value that CSW claims that he already has, then there might be a preference to lock him up until he turns it over, especially because the court has already ruled that Wright has been engaging in fraud, so it should not take much more to employ more severe mechanisms to attempt to enforce compliance and to put some dampening upon those who believe that the courts can be used in the ways that CSW has been attempting to use them.  Maybe one problem is that CSW is a defendant rather than a plaintiff, so in that regard the court likely gives more latitude to defendants, since they did not initiate the lawsuit.

[JSRAW]

Land is pretty crap actually.

Bitcoiner should avoid maximalist attitude, its harmful in many ways similar to monolithic religion.

You live on land or fiat or Bitcoin?

Let's make it simple: I don't like governments. I don't really want to be governed at all.

What I like is unconfiscatable sound money.

Very enlightened answer. Let's boycott government and starting with internet. They invented this, Agree?

You can't completely live a government-free life obviously but you can get close.

Why do you think they are trying to ban every anonymous payment method there is? (like cash)

I am not saying we should kill the politicians. I am again, hedging my position. Because that's my main algorithm in life. Always hedge. Fuck zerohedge.

Good to see you are changing goal post, i don't mind that. Actually i was expecting the same.
Anyway for the record, government is essential part of the society without them we are fucked if anyone disagree then i am ready to argue all night. Even the guy droping you merits or even jjg .

And in any case if you really know what's the problem with the government. Why don't you try to change it ? But yeah bitching about something is free, we don't need any spine for that and trying to change something takes shitload amount of work.

Let me break a bubble for you. every one can live their own life without gov but it takes hard work and tones of sacrifice, which none of us here in WO are capable of atleast in longer run.

About why they are banning : gov or human civilization is scared about anything which is new to them so no brainer. It might be helpful if we can look at all case as chessboard or may be read human history in details.

* Using phone so not replying with proper quotes.

[JayJuanGee]

Kenzawak is a strange case.... cause I think we all liked him a lot as a fellow member, and if he was hacked or whatever and really couldn’t solve the problem then he always could (not very fun) create a new account and I think members of the WO would easily help him out merit a bit more often etc en help him build his account back up.... though it is very pity cause he was an very cool dude  

For toxic, I think jojo has some talking with him from time to time and said his alright (if I’m right)

But I would like to see some toxic charts again

Also Bones261 is long time no seen in the WO.....

kenzawak was a cool guy but he fucked up a few times sharing too much personal info.
I remember him posting a couple of screenshots that literally had his name in a minimised browser tab & his email.

I hope he’s OK but he was very lapse with his OpSec.
He was obviously a sitting duck to hackers.

Edit - Forgot about bones -
Last Active: November 10, 2019, 08:31:08 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=452769

Also, hope he’s ok too!

There had been some theories about kenzawak being an "inside job," so how can we know for sure?

What I am saying is that we do not know members well enough to know if they are engaging in faulty opsec on purpose or if they were a victim.

In the end, really difficult to know these things.

[mindrust]

I am not in the debate mood. I leave you to JJG.

Imma sleepy.

I am sure when I wake up in the morning I'll see at least 5 new WO pages.

Fuck the governments, good night.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

There had been some theories about kenzawak being an "inside job," so how can we know for sure?

What I am saying is that we do not know members well enough to know if they are engaging in faulty opsec on purpose or if they were a victim.

In the end, really difficult to know these things.

Yeah I guess it’s important to keep some cards close to your chest. You can let some things slip, OpSec wise but always good to keep your guard up.

[bitserve]

I love sideways/consolidation after a pump. This is fine.

[dragonvslinux]

That's my bullish input for all you moon boys anyway.

Not going to win too many friends in these parts by referring to peeps here (and assumingly HODLers and accumulators) as moon boys.  But, hey, do what you feel that you must.

Sorry, that BTC prices are moving against your anticipations  ...... Not really.

It's ok I'm not looking for friends, just to learn from others  You're right, it did go against how I anticipated though, not going to deny that 
Lucky I didn't get rekt™ shorting really. Didn't realise moon boys was offensive though, I thought anyone who believes a $100K BTC is possible in the near future was a moon boy by default. We're all moon boys? Maybe men still get offended by being called boys I dunno, I forget to keep check of these things.
Maybe moon men would be more appropriate, but doesn't have the ring to it.

 “I like offending people, because I think people who get offended should be offended.”
― Linus Torvalds
 
 Fuckin' Fins!   Here's a hat




 avatar-sized

 


edit: No offense intended toward the offensible Fins 

Legend! Just put this on, waiting to see how it looks  Joining the WO hat family thanks to xhomerx10 
PS - JayJuanGee, will respond to you properly as appreciated your response, was meant to merit your post but hat to merit the hat 

[DaRude]

The document produced by Craig is simply a list of 16,404 addresses. Craig, however, did not provide any information on the bounded courier, the company he/she worked for, when he/she came, or the message delivered.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

  now he's just trolling the court! Lets see them addresses!

Shortly after Judge Reinhart issued this Order, on September 11, 2019, the parties reached
an agreement in principle to settle the case. Discovery was abated for nearly two months as the
parties worked together to document their agreement. Then, on October 30, and without warning,
Plaintiffs were informed Craig could no longer finance the settlement, and that he was terminating
the settlement efforts.


...no shit

yep tl;dr
Faketoshi-let's settle i got this dude with big pockets
Kleiman-OK
Ayre-Ohh i wanted to settle but i investigated and found out that CSW is already my little bitch and i already own everything, oops silly me. good luck collecting on 50% of $0, i'm out
Kleiman-WTF you think we're idiots!?! Then lets drag you and nChain into the case, and see what Judge has to say about all this
Ayre-pooping his pants, and thinking how much more it'll cost him to settle

I was NOT negotiating a settlement as I am not a party to the case...I was investigating the potential to buy the assets of the estate.

-Calvin Ayre @ https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1191324328278863872

In August, a Florida magistrate issued a non-binding statement that Kleiman’s estate was entitled to 50% of the Bitcoin (BTC) mined by the Wright & Kleiman “partnership” up to December 31, 2013, as well as 50% of any intellectual property (IP) co-developed by Wright & Kleiman prior to Kleiman’s death in April 2013. There is no actual evidence of a partnership that could be found by lawyers researching on behalf of Ayre.

Following the statement, Ayre commenced good-faith negotiations to acquire the Kleiman estate based on public disclosures that the estate held valuable IP under U.S. law. Ayre’s attorneys have since determined that all of the IP claimed by the estate was created following Dave’s death and thus lies outside the scope of the non-binding statement.

Of the IP in question, Ayre’s attorneys concluded that the only IP on which Kleiman collaborated with Wright was the original Bitcoin code, which was released to the world as open source software in 2009.

-Calvin Ayre's blog @ https://coingeek.com/calvin-ayre-passes-on-buying-dave-kleiman-estate-because-it-holds-no-assets/

...revealed the extent to which nChain’s Chairman
Stefan Matthews and nChain investor Calvin Ayre participated in facilitating Craig’s unlawful
taking of, and capitalizing on, W&K’s (and Dave Kleiman’s) intellectual property. 4 They have
also revealed that Nchain has acquired, with full knowledge of Plaintiffs potential claims, much of
the IP at issue in this case. Furthermore, new documents produced in mid-December 2019 show
that Craig signed a power of attorney agreement in August 2016 that gave nChain the power to
“take any steps or do any thing” that nChain “in its absolute discretion considers desirable in
connection with” the IP nChain purchased from Craig, including controlling any litigation over
the intellectual property at issue in this case.

Everyone knows that CSW is broke and is on Ayre's life support, CSW has no private keys so best Kleiman's lawyers can hope for is to annoy Ayre and nChain enough to at least get some settlement.

[JayJuanGee]

LoL

So Ball tempering is not @bitserve's trade mark.....

... or Bawb's, official founder of BTC  (Ball Training Club).

In other words, titanium plates remain the original, and perfume and other spray inducements are inferior and lame imitation attempts. 

Not the first time that we have heard of those snake oil salesmen techniques in the bitcoin space.   

[Cryptotourist]

I'm ready.

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[Basorexia]

Guys, what do you think about Bitcoin? I am considering zone 9000 to enter a short position.

[JayJuanGee]

I added Bitcoin Dominance and BTC/USD pair in same graph for last 1 year. And last few days looks kinda different comparing to before. Like glines were more or less parallel mostly, But after the last jump over 8k usd, dominance went to downtrending.

Does that graph inform you about what to do next?

Are you going to use "bitcoin dominance" as some kind of indicator to inform you what to do in terms of your accumulation of bitcoin or your HODL strategy or even if you are going to sell?

or are you considering shitcoins?  Does that indicator tell you something about shit coins?

By the way, do you happen to know what has happened in the last week or so in terms of bitcoin and some of the purportedly BIGGER shitcoins?  If you do, then that the changes in that "bitcoin dominance" metric should tell you a lot about how such metric is gamed by coins that have little to no liquidity but for some reason they are holding some kind of value, as if they had some kind of value beyond a way to scam folks out of their money, an attack vector towards bitcoin or perhaps placing weather/earthquake data therein.

[El duderino_]

Observing profit taking. Gut says no Vegeta today.

But are you wearing your glasses today?

[El duderino_]

Guys, what do you think about Bitcoin? I am considering zone 9000 to enter a short position.

Most of us DCA, not to many doing the shorting business I think, only the pro’s maybe 

[Raja_MBZ]

Seems like the scam pump got dumped at $420.

[bitserve]

Guys, what do you think about Bitcoin? I am considering zone 9000 to enter a short position.

My opinion: If you really want to short Bitcoin around $9000 it is because you think it will not break it. If that's the case you should better short it right now which is already close enough to $9000. Once it reaches $9000 it will probably break and overshoot it. Or wait to see where it does stop after $9K and short it there.

That being said, I would advise against shorting it at this time as there is more potential on the upside than in the downside (possible retest and bounce on $8.5).

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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Sorry bro our work department is different so its normal (don't blame yourself) and i would be very surprise if in this bitcointalk forum someone able to match my configurations unless s-he works in blizzard or pixar and i hope you believe me but i hate to say,  the only guy i think who can come close in "our beloved roachie" if he's true to his words...

Okay so you are talking about your high config system that you use for 3D designs?
Damn man!
I use this computer only for browsing LOL

By the way, nice profession that you have. Are you working under any company or on your own?

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Currency system...