MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]

[phelix]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590138 What happened at Gox on 2013-05-13 - (BTC Xfer Diagrams)

[bitcoinvest]

some news on the case: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-decision-delayed-trustee-seeks-us-bankruptcy-approval/

[ilpirata79]

some news on the case: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-decision-delayed-trustee-seeks-us-bankruptcy-approval/

Could someone please recap what's going on with mtgox and what are we mtgox customers supposed to do to get something back?

Thanks a lot.
ilpirata79

[cafminer1]

No.

You have to read. :-)

[Phinnaeus Gage]

No.

You have to read. :-)

Dude, at least supply a pic.

[bitcoinvest]

does anyone have any news on Savegox.com case?

did they got approval from us court of the plan to save MtGox.com?


and there it is: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-proposal-granted-key-preliminary-approval/

some good news for all of us we lost our btc in MtGox.com there is a big light

[freedombit]

does anyone have any news on Savegox.com case?

did they got approval from us court of the plan to save MtGox.com?


and there it is: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-proposal-granted-key-preliminary-approval/

some good news for all of us we lost our btc in MtGox.com there is a big light

Wasn't this already reported a few days ago? Why is CoinDesk just now reporting?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

does anyone have any news on Savegox.com case?

did they got approval from us court of the plan to save MtGox.com?


and there it is: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-proposal-granted-key-preliminary-approval/

some good news for all of us we lost our btc in MtGox.com there is a big light

Wasn't this already reported a few days ago? Why is CoinDesk just now reporting?

Obviously, it's an SEO tactic, given that CoinDesk.com, registered on May 4, 2008, is own by Shakil Khan, formally a moderator for the Google advertising forum for 2 years at Webmasterworld.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070228153657/http://www.chinawhite.net/archives/2005/09/

September 16, 2005

Google to acquire BAIDU?

So for the last week or so, everyday I get an email asking me what I think of "Google buying Baidu" ?

So here's my take

The time I have spent in China in 2005 and having talked to many Business Folk, End Users, Advertisers, Taxi Drivers and Part Time Girlfriends has led me to 1 thing.

Baidu run the show!

I will try and explain it in simple terms and hope no one is offended by the example I am going to use.

Taking on Baidu or Alibaba in China for Google and Yahoo, is very similar to me wanting to sell Books to Schools in the USA when my competitor happens to be Minister of Education, basically it ain't gonna happen.

In CHINA it's all about who you know and your relationships with these people, and this (in my opinion) can not be bought with $$$s.

Yahoo have obviously realised this and hence decided the best route is getting the local guys to run their business for them whilst taking ashare of the bigger Chinese Mooncake.

Google on the other hand are a kick axx company with some very very smart people and an amazing brand, however China is 1 place where all this can mean very little or very much dependant on the mood of the people, and at the moment it's all about Baidu.

An outright buy or a much bigger partnership would make total sense, as ultimately it's about the advertising $, and this Google has lots of when you look at their advertiser base, Baidu has the user base but very little of the foreign $$$s are coming through, although their marketing activity is being ramped up since the IPO.

For a Western company trying to advertise on BAIDU is similar to me asking for "Toasted Cheese Sandwich" and being handed "Cheese, Bread and a Toaster with Chinese instructions"

As a sidenote, there may be all sorts of political and financial wall street type reasons for the above to take OR not take place, however there are many more qualified folk to share that kind of news with you.

I am just sharing it from my point of view, having been 1 of Google's earliest paid advertisers in 2001, having been involved at Webmasterworld as moderator for the Google advertising forum for 2 years, Having spent millions of $s gloablly with Google, and now sitting here in Shanghai looking at the Bigger picture and being asked questions by Advertisers on how they should spend their search $s in China.

[ilpirata79]

No.

You have to read. :-)

Dude, at least supply a pic.

This guy looks like Rocco Siffreddi... was that done on purpose? 

Best regards,
ilpirata79

[freedombit]

does anyone have any news on Savegox.com case?

did they got approval from us court of the plan to save MtGox.com?


and there it is: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-proposal-granted-key-preliminary-approval/

some good news for all of us we lost our btc in MtGox.com there is a big light

Wasn't this already reported a few days ago? Why is CoinDesk just now reporting?

Obviously, it's an SEO tactic, given that CoinDesk.com, registered on May 4, 2008, is own by Shakil Khan, formally a moderator for the Google advertising forum for 2 years at Webmasterworld.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070228153657/http://www.chinawhite.net/archives/2005/09/

September 16, 2005


I am just sharing it from my point of view, having been 1 of Google's earliest paid advertisers in 2001, having been involved at Webmasterworld as moderator for the Google advertising forum for 2 years, Having spent millions of $s gloablly with Google, and now sitting here in Shanghai looking at the Bigger picture and being asked questions by Advertisers on how they should spend their search $s in China.

Thanks Phinnaeus. Impeccable timing. :-)

[bitcoinvest]

anyone with news from mtgox.com savegox.com ?

[flound1129]

Civil rehabilitation would have involved re-using the code that lead to our coins being stolen.

And people are actually taking this seriously?

[bitcoinvest]

So what is the current status on SEPA withdraw delays from MtGox? Does it currently take long to withdraw EUR from MtGox using SEPA? Is doing arbitrage between MtGox and Bitstamp and make a buck on the price premium a good idea? Do you know, Sturles?

What's this??? Since the MtGox is not yet back on line how do you speak for SEPA withdrawals? Is there any news that i don't know?

[Gotgoxed]

new announcement on gox!

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140521_announce.pdf

[bitcoinvest]

new announcement on gox!

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140521_announce.pdf

yes thank you for the info i saw it also couple  of hours ago.... i want to mention at the last lines this:

" It is possible that, on investigation of your claims as provided in the Bankruptcy Act of Japan, your claims may not be approved. "

WHAT THE F@@CK is that? Means that ok i have for example 200 BTC and by the time it's time to get something back if they decide i will take nothing???

[iikun]

new announcement on gox!

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140521_announce.pdf

yes thank you for the info i saw it also couple  of hours ago.... i want to mention at the last lines this:

" It is possible that, on investigation of your claims as provided in the Bankruptcy Act of Japan, your claims may not be approved. "

WHAT THE F@@CK is that? Means that ok i have for example 200 BTC and by the time it's time to get something back if they decide i will take nothing???

Its saying that you need to prove that you are a creditor.  Japan likes to state the obvious like that. Nothing to cause great alarm, its exactly the same as any bankruptcy or debt situation.

[ffcitatos]

So is any action required from anyone, or not?

[bitcoinvest]

thanks for prompt reply....

Now let me ask something.....Brock Pierce with SaveGox.com as i read before 2 days said is on the way for rehabilitate MtGox.com and you can read here: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-bitcoin-foundation-will-not-step-down/

Is the update we read on MtGox.com a refusing answer on rehabilitate or just something that had to be announced and savegox.com efforts have still time to make it happen?

[iikun]

thanks for prompt reply....

Now let me ask something.....Brock Pierce with SaveGox.com as i read before 2 days said is on the way for rehabilitate MtGox.com and you can read here: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-bitcoin-foundation-will-not-step-down/

Is the update we read on MtGox.com a refusing answer on rehabilitate or just something that had to be announced and savegox.com efforts have still time to make it happen?

I personally have no idea but as the savegox thing has only applied to usa court I would assume that Japan is ignoring it for now. No idea why they bothered going to the usa court really, seems a bit pointless seeing as gox is based in Japan and they Japanese court has all the power.

[freedombit]

thanks for prompt reply....

Now let me ask something.....Brock Pierce with SaveGox.com as i read before 2 days said is on the way for rehabilitate MtGox.com and you can read here: http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-bitcoin-foundation-will-not-step-down/

Is the update we read on MtGox.com a refusing answer on rehabilitate or just something that had to be announced and savegox.com efforts have still time to make it happen?

I think it very well could be a response while under gag order. In the middle of this announcement were two new thoughts, both essentially saying the same thing, depending on whether you consider Bitcoin "lent" to another entity a "debt owed", or an "asset possessed".

(6)
(i) Persons owing debts to the bankrupt entity are not to repay such debts to the bankrupt entity.
(ii) Persons possessing assets of the bankrupt entity are not to deliver such assets to the bankrupt entity.

Fun fun!