tygeade
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July 12, 2023, 03:14:02 AM |
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Slot machine games, especially to get the jackpot, don't need any strategy but just need luck, that's why gamblers will feel happy if they get lucky so they will continue to play slot games, I'm not a slot lover, but it seems like there are indeed many gamblers who like this game in casinos. because people expect luck more than discovering a strategy to gamble in casinos and win every game. I know every possible jackpot in some casinos has been set by the system or the dealer for that why I don't really like this slot game even though there are lots of gamblers who play slot games, for example my friend yesterday won $ 100 from the jackpot slot he was very happy even though he previously losing $ 1000 at least winning once has been fun  I agree that it would be pretty difficult to find a strategy that works, I mean you just spin it and the result is there, what kind of strategy could you do that would make you richer? I think it will not be possible and all we need to care of in that case would be making a profit based on luck. Slots are fun, there are layers and there are chances and it's just overall something that is very entertaining to play because of how much fun it is. Money should not be the first aim, I understand the desire to make money, but if you are going to gamble anyway then it would be smart to gamble on slots so that you would at least have some fun while doing it, because in the end you are going to lose your money if you keep doing it for long enough time.
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Haunebu
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Activity: 3780
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
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July 12, 2023, 04:50:00 AM |
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I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays.
KYC for 50 freaking bucks? Nothing wrong with it? Nonsense. There's plenty wrong with it. Only hardcore fans of the site would want to continue playing where they request KYC for such small amounts to be frank. You are part of the minority who have no issues providing KYC regardless of whatever the reason is.
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Kakmakr
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Activity: 3542
Merit: 1966
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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July 12, 2023, 05:29:02 AM |
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Meanwhile, the document (local) like water bill & other are using local language because is being used 98% are only for our country.
A user of Stake is trying to complete the level 3 KYC verification since last 4 months: Impossible KYC Requirements - Stake.com - Withholding $6000 USD. The user is a resident of Thailand, and he had submitted electricity bill documents which were in Thai language. Stake team has rejected the documents. Even they didn't accept his documents which were in English. The submitted documents need to be in 'Latin international format' as Stake.com accepts this format only. Utility bills are in local language in most of the Asian countries. So, the level 3 and level 4 verification will be complicated for a lot of gamblers who live in Asia. I honestly think that they are stalling the verification, because they do not have someone that can read/write the Tai language. I think they might outsource the verification of these documents and whomever is responsible, does not have the ability to validate the documents. Stake will not do this on purpose, because lots of other gamblers has done the level 3 and level 4 verification. In any way... $6000 is nothing for them, because they are making millions of Dollars every week. 
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God Of Thunder
aka Learn Bitcoin
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Activity: 1246
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July 12, 2023, 06:15:19 AM |
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KYC for 50 freaking bucks? Nothing wrong with it? Nonsense. There's plenty wrong with it. Only hardcore fans of the site would want to continue playing where they request KYC for such small amounts to be frank.
You are part of the minority who have no issues providing KYC regardless of whatever the reason is.
You seem shocked! Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username. After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it. I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.
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ryzaadit
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Activity: 3192
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July 12, 2023, 06:19:27 AM |
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In-case for you, got the money from promotion and yeah the KYC are gonna to be triggered because you are promotion (free). Meanwhile me ? who are deposit and getting trigered KYC for 50$ ? that's really f*ck up for me, however based on the case most of these trigered KYC are depends on the game you are playing. Example, like Sportbook they could be trigered you comparing to user who are playing slot/casino game.
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piebeyb
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July 12, 2023, 06:45:43 AM |
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I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays.
I wasn't really surprised by the KYC regulations in several casinos including the one you mentioned, that's why I chose Stake because they didn't ask me to do KYC for withdrawing tens of dollars let alone small money, but I don't want to compare which is the best of all sites gambling platform because I believe that every casino has different rules too, so why stick around at that casino. To be honest, completing KYC for small withdrawals is definitely wrong in my opinion, but if it doesn't bother you that's fine too, as long as you're comfortable with it, unless you're not comfortable with it it's best to leave, find a better casino no asking you to complete KYC just to withdraw small money. although KYC is indeed a trend lately 
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Bitinity
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July 12, 2023, 07:04:25 AM |
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KYC for 50 freaking bucks? Nothing wrong with it? Nonsense. There's plenty wrong with it. Only hardcore fans of the site would want to continue playing where they request KYC for such small amounts to be frank.
You are part of the minority who have no issues providing KYC regardless of whatever the reason is.
You seem shocked! Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username. After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it. I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was. Currently there are many KYC related cases in this crypto gambling industry, I have no idea why but seems that KYC is getting stricter these days. Afaik uploading ID + selfie photo is more than enough for most cases. Utility bill or bank statement is just complicated and I think there should be a better reason for any site to ask such document from their players. It does not make senses if utility bill is being asked for small withdrawal request. I do not even think that pure fiat casinos ask that complicated KYC verification, at least based on my own experience in local fiat casinos. Of course different country, different casino, may have their own rules.
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God Of Thunder
aka Learn Bitcoin
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July 12, 2023, 07:12:48 AM |
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You seem shocked! Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username.
After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it.
I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.
Currently there are many KYC related cases in this crypto gambling industry, I have no idea why but seems that KYC is getting stricter these days. Afaik uploading ID + selfie photo is more than enough for most cases. Utility bill or bank statement is just complicated and I think there should be a better reason for any site to ask such document from their players. It does not make senses if utility bill is being asked for small withdrawal request. I do not even think that pure fiat casinos ask that complicated KYC verification, at least based on my own experience in local fiat casinos. Of course different country, different casino, may have their own rules. There is no problem if casinos ask for a KYC for a valid reason or if they see any suspicious activity, if the amount is high or players place bets on sports. But, I have never seen a casino ask for KYC documents when a player deposited $10, played their in-house games and attempted to withdraw the funds after a few minutes. But, when a casino asks for KYC for a $20 withdrawal when the player never took any bonuses and did not play any games other than in-house games, I am unsure why they need a KYC. Moreover, they don't accept local documents; they don't accept e-statements. Who takes physical statements these days? It feels somewhat scammy when a casino makes everything challenging for its players. Who will spend their days collecting those documents to withdraw just $20?
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swogerino
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July 12, 2023, 07:17:56 AM |
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In-case for you, got the money from promotion and yeah the KYC are gonna to be triggered because you are promotion (free). Meanwhile me ? who are deposit and getting trigered KYC for 50$ ? that's really f*ck up for me, however based on the case most of these trigered KYC are depends on the game you are playing. Example, like Sportbook they could be trigered you comparing to user who are playing slot/casino game. I have deposited several times here without taking into consideration signature money they pay us and the KYC was never triggered,it was me that wanted to go and verify myself as Level 2 KYC for the benefits of taking part in more promotions than people without KYC.I agree though KYC should only be asked after a certain good amount of money is deposited or withdrawn like minimum of 1000 and that is what most casinos do,they let you play freely until that amount and if you surpass it then KYC is automatically triggered.
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Haunebu
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
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July 12, 2023, 05:30:36 PM |
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You seem shocked! Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username.
After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it.
I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.
Holy moly! KYC for 50 bucks itself was outrageous, but KYC for 20 bucks along with so much documentation is just plain insanity. I never gambled at Bitsler and I will never recommend it just because of your issue. Personally, I would submit KYC only if it's related to big withdrawals or if they find something legitimately suspicious related to my account.
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ryzaadit
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July 12, 2023, 07:49:03 PM |
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To be honest. About these KYC stuff, each individual have a different case of "KYC" things. Might be on other side they're getting KYC and other side not, so just tried not too see one side only. From my experience playing casino. I see so many case on other user like they got KYC on my Casino I told and thinking is good like (Duelbit, BK8, Stake, Rollbit) some of them get a triggered KYC with a low fund. However, comparing to my self don't have found or issue withdraw more than the amount they're withdrawn. That's why, I always told everyone depends on a few factor (potential): - Your deposit. - Your game. - Your activity. - Your account.
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o48o
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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July 12, 2023, 08:31:02 PM |
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That's why, I most the time on casinos with higher limit withdraw without KYC. I already withdraw a few some casino like "Duelbits" and have experienced withdrawing 3,500$ they're not requested me KYC. Stake my high withdraw 8000-9000$, and being processed without KYC. I'm not saying they're free KYC, but they are could be have higher limit withdraw without KYC and depends your activity/factor (Waggering, Deposit, type game you're playing). I also thinking, they have group/support/CM on Local, why stake not using verification like these by their local-team to verified document Level 3/4. I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays. Sure, they can ask it but for $50 it sounds unusual. Did you try to withdraw it to your bank or something? You also mentioned promotions, may i ask if this is how you got the money? Not that it should should matter but i am trying to follow their logic of what triggered it, and why would they single you out for 50 bucks. I don't recall having to do kyc in Duelbits and i think i have withdrawn more than 50.
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babygun
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Sure, they can ask it but for $50 it sounds unusual. Did you try to withdraw it to your bank or something?
You also mentioned promotions, may i ask if this is how you got the money? Not that it should should matter but i am trying to follow their logic of what triggered it, and why would they single you out for 50 bucks. I don't recall having to do kyc in Duelbits and i think i have withdrawn more than 50.
I always make a small deposit (only crypto) on the sites that I join, but when there are promotions (mostly sportsbet related) I try to take advantage of it (higher odds, risk free bets, ...). It can be shocking that casinos ask you KYC for low amounts, but it happened to me already a couple of times that I got used to it lol. I also have the impression that we are moving towards a trend that all crypto casinos will ask for KYC (for small or big amounts). But as ryzaadit mentions, it always depends on a couple of factors if you get asked for KYC or not.
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ryzaadit
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July 12, 2023, 10:31:00 PM |
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No wonder, you getting "KYC". It's about "Sportbook". The first time, you response to my post about "KYC" you share the story of getting KYC for 50$ and I respond to you again with a message game potential is most of the time "Sportsbook". In a recent post, you shared more detail about the promotion is about "Sportsbook". Not really surprise my speculationa are correct,with my 2+ years experience in gambling thread most of problem with casino especially KYC are more often from "Sportbook" user comparing to (Casino/Slot) user. Sportsbook can make casinos lose more money compared to other game casinos like (Casino/slot), that's why they prohibited advantage users to play sportsbooks. How they do it ? by limited the bet size, prohibited the user playing on their casino, and the last things make them facing "KYC". Same happen on "Landbase" casino about BJ, they prohibited card-counter because even the counter still can lose so much money they prohibited them comparing to other user who are playing like (Roulete).
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AHOYBRAUSE
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AntiSwap.io - NO AML/KYC EXCHANGER MONITORING
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July 13, 2023, 12:54:34 AM |
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Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.
They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.
Getting more and more ridiculous at stake.
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God Of Thunder
aka Learn Bitcoin
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Need a Campaign manager? TG: t.me/GodofThunderpro
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July 13, 2023, 02:27:52 AM |
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Holy moly! KYC for 50 bucks itself was outrageous, but KYC for 20 bucks along with so much documentation is just plain insanity. I never gambled at Bitsler and I will never recommend it just because of your issue.
Personally, I would submit KYC only if it's related to big withdrawals or if they find something legitimately suspicious related to my account.
Almost every casino never tell their users why they triggered KYC. They won't tell you if they find something suspicious about your account. Personally, I don't mind if casinos ask for KYC verification if I play 3rd party games and win a good amount of money. Or, I take any bonus and now want to withdraw the winnings. But, I never heard that a casino triggered KYC even though you never played 3rd party games or took any bonus or promo. Now, when it comes to verifying KYC for $20, they need several documents, and they won't accept e-statements or e-bills. You have to visit your bank for the statement and visit your gas or electricity supplier office to get a physical bill, it might cost you more than $20 to collect them, and you have to spend your whole day. Who does that for $20?
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July 13, 2023, 02:41:30 AM |
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Personally, I would submit KYC only if it's related to big withdrawals or if they find something legitimately suspicious related to my account.
But then one day you will hit a jackpot or win big (at least we should be hopeful that we will win big) and then all of sudden you will be needed to perform the KYC. At that point, some of the scam casinos may not accept your KYC because they know that on acceptance you will withdraw the winning money. However, if you already had performed the KYC, then this issue may not arise and you may be able to withdrawal easily. But again you point of view is also right in a sense that doing KYC at all the sites only risks our KYC data to be misused.
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Bitinity
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July 13, 2023, 04:26:59 AM |
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Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.
They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.
Getting more and more ridiculous at stake.
I saw some Platinum 2 players are complaining in the Stake's forum because they get so low monthly bonus (even less than $5). I am Platinum 2 as well, a bit shocked to know that there are some complaints where platinum 2 players with higher wagering statistic and bigger loses get less bonus than me. Just for comparison, I wagered around $25k in the past 30 days, overall in positive (profit) and I received $59 monthly bonus which is basically the same as what I received last month ($55). Even surprising I saw some platinum 3 players also get less than $10, while they wagered more than me and they are in negative (loss). I think there must be something wrong with their bonus calculation system that affects some players. How much did you get as platinum 4?
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Symphonized
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Primedice.com & Stake.com
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July 13, 2023, 04:33:41 AM |
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Christmas in July has arrived! 🎅 Over the next seven days, Santa will be leaving gifts under the tree for you to enjoy 🎄 Starting today with the Monthly bonus! Stay tuned over the next week for more goodies... 🎁
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CYBER_COWBOY
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Don't talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk.
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July 13, 2023, 05:04:04 AM |
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Hey whats up with the Monthly bonus? Last two months I got like zero and I haven't played that much less then before. I normally get like 0.002BTC now I get like 0.0001BTC This is the main reason I been using stake, for your good and perfect sports betting service with "rake back" and much much more, your casino am I never using since its so destroyed by all nerfing so its more or less impossible to win, and now also this. I think its a bit ugly to take from those who feed you and trow it away, anyway you run your business as you please, and its up to me as a customer to accept it or not, but now you gone to far, its absolutley no reason at all for anyone to play at Stake anymore, its better to give away money to charity, but I want to thanks for the two years i played at you, time to look for another casino and sports betting where they focus the customers and not sponsorships for being famous.
I play monthly quite a lot, not a high roller in anyway, but put my effort. If anyone want to have me as refeal on another website then stake, feel free to send me a PM with invitation link. (You will for sure make some extra bucks every month)
Again thanks Stake for the 2 years and good luck in the future and a tip: It's never good to get to greedy, it will only bite back to you at some point.
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