Fivestar4everMVP
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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July 19, 2023, 11:34:48 AM |
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Is it something that was announced officially by Stake in their last stream?
I wagered few thousands dollar last week which means couple of tickets as well. I received $18 as platinum 2, usually I received $10 only when I wagered less in a week. I cant really remember what was the lowest weekly I had received, but I think I had never received less than $10.
The question is, will they keep giving pre/post monthly bonus? With the fact that they reduced other bonuses, it is also possible that the pre/post monthly bonus will also be lowered in the near future. Anyway, since you are getting close to Platinum 5, it seems that you will stop playing/depositing once you reach plat 5.
I didn't watch last week's stream but for something like this it is usually not announced, indeed most people confirm that the monthly bonus is reduced by around 50% one example is usually reload for monthly bonus is $1 for Bronze but now it's only $0.5 while for Platinum up I haven't got the information yet, I'm talking about monthly bonuses not weekly. You confirm that your weekly bonus has not changed from usual, here we have 2 different statements can we assume that it only applies to some users? Stake hunts multi-account owners as far as I know, that is why many people who have created more than 1 account get low bonuses. Monthly bonuses should consider the base amount per VIP but that rules has been removed months ago. Regarding the weekly bonuses, now they count the house edge factor of the most wagered game. The more you wager on originals the less bonus you will get, everything depends on the house edge factor on new VIP bonus system. Concerning those with multiple accounts, you might be right considering that stake for most of its operations that remain almost like a no KYC casino, by this, i mean they rarely request kyc verifications from their customers, so users with lots of money to throw around easily diversified their gambling activities by creating multiple accounts to help them take full advantage of Stakes generosity.. But then, i do not really believe to hurt multi accounts owners is anything near the reason why the monthly and weekly bonuses were slashed, the reason for this can only be explained to the community by stake themselves, any ways, a lot of fingers are probably crossed right now to see what this months bonus would look like, lets all hope that last months bonus slash isn't a development that is permanent going forward.
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Jody.Drummer
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July 19, 2023, 11:43:23 AM |
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We can't stop them from doing that, because even if someone says yes they won't do it, who is watching them? No one, right? So they are free to do this kind of thing, having multiple accounts. This is why there are rules that require KYC. They won't be able to create multiple accounts with the same data, right? This is a form of anticipation where they won't do something like that, because the rules that will make it difficult for them to do it.
Casinos cannot stop it and only reduce the amount by strictly implementing regulations. But this can impact the casino too because casinos can experience a decrease in traffic from small e because of these strict regulations. With the implementation of KYC, it is one of the ways that casinos can control the people who are members and it is impossible for everyone to have more than one account. But I think there must be a way for those who still want to use more than one account and buying an identity is the easiest way or buying accounts that are no longer used and have been verified and even dare to pay a high price. Indeed, if you look at the condition of the decline with KYC, it will definitely decrease, but if gambling wants to avoid multiple accounts and ining verification to improve various things such as protecting the site from those that should not exist due to age and others. In the end, all actions must have consequences and in this case everything that is taken whether it applies KYC or not is clear that this will have an impact so now it depends on which policies the big sites will take whether to apply KYC or not because all actions certainly need to have consequences. Everything will have consequences, and they will choose the least consequence of all the options. We cannot eliminate all risks, because it is one of the forms that will certainly always coexist with any action, including implementing a KYC system or not. In terms of users, yes they will decrease because maybe most of them use multiple accounts, but in terms of prevention it will certainly minimize to make users unable to have more than one account. It is a choice, and with its own consequences.
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ryzaadit
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July 19, 2023, 06:29:50 PM |
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But, If you focused on wagering only with around 3-5$ you can gain 700$+ wagered. All you need to do just doing these, everytime you lose 3-4$ then you are change the betting to win recovery again to your initial amount. You can repeat the process until reached 10,000$, based on the chat from my perspective most of player are quite smart for people who are chasing (waggering). They can get high waggering with a low amount.
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AHOYBRAUSE
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July 19, 2023, 06:39:53 PM |
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But, If you focused on wagering only with around 3-5$ you can gain 700$+ wagered. All you need to do just doing these, everytime you lose 3-4$ then you are change the betting to win recovery again to your initial amount. You can repeat the process until reached 10,000$, based on the chat from my perspective most of player are quite smart for people who are chasing (waggering). They can get high waggering with a low amount. You can only recover if you get lucky as well. Every strategy is destined to fail in the long run, that's the casino way. Sure sometimes people get lucky (or have a lucky seed ) and can wager high with low amounts but nobody is starting with 5$ and get 10k wager, that's simply impossible. Mathematically because of house edge you will lose at least 100$ with 10k wager, on the lowest house edge game, that's a fact. Anyway, even if you have the wager, it's not guaranteed you can claim the drop. Since they are gone super fast, if you have "unknown error" only 1-2 times it will be fully claimed already. Also, you have to check your phone all the time because if you see the notification only 1min too late it might already be fully claimed. That's what happens when stake makes these micro drops instead of making at least a decent drop amount. But 2000-3000 claims for the whole community is just ridiculously low.
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swogerino
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July 19, 2023, 07:52:37 PM |
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But, If you focused on wagering only with around 3-5$ you can gain 700$+ wagered. All you need to do just doing these, everytime you lose 3-4$ then you are change the betting to win recovery again to your initial amount. You can repeat the process until reached 10,000$, based on the chat from my perspective most of player are quite smart for people who are chasing (waggering). They can get high waggering with a low amount. I would love to know how,although from what I have seen in last time I have played slots with IDR,it keeps you playing a lot in any game you choose to especially in games like the Big Bass series when you buy the bonus as it keeps getting you money but then it gives you a good hit.However you need at least 100 dollars to wager 2000-3000 dollars by playing there and spending a huge amount of time with the lowest bet.If you increase the bet then you risk to lose the money faster so I am very curious about those guys who are able to wager 10.000 dollars a week with a low amount like 20-50 dollars.
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Symphonized
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Primedice.com & Stake.com
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July 19, 2023, 10:58:44 PM |
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ethereumhunter
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July 20, 2023, 04:19:46 AM |
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I believe that those who create multiple accounts merely for catching bonus only are aware that they have the chance to be banned but who can stop people creating multiple accounts? They know the risk of what they did but they keep doing it because of money and they will not regret it because actually they did not risk anything. I think the best solution is to stop streamers to offer free money, or at least give a bit difficult requirement in order to get the offer from the streamers. If the offer from streamers is 100% free, the creation of multiple accounts will continue all the time.
Nothing can stop them from creating multiple accounts just to earn bonuses. Only they can be aware of the risks they can get later if the casino knows it and the casino knows it. But strangely, that doesn't stop them from even knowing the risks because they can complain to other sites that the casino is rigged when they are the ones who are. But it seems that stopping the streamer from offering free money is a bit difficult because the streamer also shares their referral link at the same time so that their followers will join under them. Indeed, if you look at the condition of the decline with KYC, it will definitely decrease, but if gambling wants to avoid multiple accounts and ining verification to improve various things such as protecting the site from those that should not exist due to age and others. In the end, all actions must have consequences and in this case everything that is taken whether it applies KYC or not is clear that this will have an impact so now it depends on which policies the big sites will take whether to apply KYC or not because all actions certainly need to have consequences.
But it seems that crypto casinos will eventually implement KYC due to regulations from regulators. And we as crypto users who still gamble frequently, must understand that it is part of the regulations carried out by crypto casinos. Maybe now we are still allowed to play gambling without verifying, but who knows, we will be required to do KYC next year. Maybe small gamblers will not be asked to do KYC because casinos don't see it as important. After all, casinos have more big gamblers who often deposit big money and get big wins. So it really is a good idea to remain a small gambler. After all, our goal in playing gambling is just to have fun.
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ryzaadit
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July 20, 2023, 05:34:37 AM |
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Yes, they are fast around 2-3 mins. But, If you turn-on notifications and overview of their habits for what time they are using for sharing the code you have a higher chance get a success claim. Did you know the comparison between the code sharing on the weekly stream & drop on the telegram channel? Actually, you have less errors on drop-code telegram rather than weekly. Why, because the drop on there doesn't have a setup time for sharing the code. Meanwhile, the drop on weekly is beings set up by "started-weekly stream". People are already waiting and know the time, that's mean you fight the code more harder than the drop on telegram. IMO, still worth low or not at least they make promotion and people still taken that comparing to other casino who don't have a drop like these.
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beerlover
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July 20, 2023, 06:55:21 AM |
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I know some users create more than one account they take advantage of bonus codes given by streamers you know for every new user who qualifies they will get up to $35 reload bonus this is one of the reasons why they create multiple accounts. We don't know who to blame, maybe disabling the invite code bonus could be a solution lol.
They shouldn't create more than one account just to chase the bonus code given by the streamer. But greed has come to them so they do it without thinking it could affect their gambling account later. If the casino finds out (and can identify it easily), all of their accounts can be banned, making them regret they did it. Maybe everyone should be aware not to use or create more than one account just to claim bonus codes from streamers. But indeed, we cannot stop them from doing this because it depends on each person. We can't stop them from doing that, because even if someone says yes they won't do it, who is watching them? No one, right? So they are free to do this kind of thing, having multiple accounts. This is why there are rules that require KYC. They won't be able to create multiple accounts with the same data, right? This is a form of anticipation where they won't do something like that, because the rules that will make it difficult for them to do it. I think who can stop them is the casino. If they open multiple accounts, which they can "open" it, but if stake follows it close enough, like IP's at least, then they should be able to figure that out. This could cause them to lose their accounts because they did something against the rules. I am not saying lets ban them all and destroy them or something like that, just do not give them any of the wins they get, so it would be fair because if they lose they lose, if they win they do not win. That alone should be good enough punishment for them and would serve them very well. They will moan and complain about how they lost and nobody froze their account but when they won it was, but that's just what you get when you break the rules.
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Mahdirakib
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In Search of Incredible
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July 20, 2023, 11:54:03 AM |
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Did anyone follow the "christmas in July" promo? This must have been yet again one of the worst promos ever done by stake. They hype it up before it started and then it was a big pile of nothing.
Stake team had run the 'Christmas in July' promo in the previous year too. And this is not the first time when they are running such bonus drops on telegram. They are obviously doing these bonus drops in order to increase the engagement of the users. But it can't be considered as the worst promo ever. Usually, 3k to 5k+ users wager $5k+ everyday on Stake. They are already making enough money without giving those bonus drops.
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ryzaadit
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July 20, 2023, 12:51:15 PM |
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They using a drop limit now  not from the amount user can be claimed ~XD Seem like Stake also has a decrease in users as well, if we check on the chat room now the average number of people who are online only with estimated 7000-8000 compared to their highest peak can reach more than 20K users online. People who are playing is decreased right now.
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panjul07
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July 20, 2023, 01:35:19 PM |
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But, If you focused on wagering only with around 3-5$ you can gain 700$+ wagered. All you need to do just doing these, everytime you lose 3-4$ then you are change the betting to win recovery again to your initial amount. You can repeat the process until reached 10,000$, based on the chat from my perspective most of player are quite smart for people who are chasing (waggering). They can get high waggering with a low amount. I would love to know how,although from what I have seen in last time I have played slots with IDR,it keeps you playing a lot in any game you choose to especially in games like the Big Bass series when you buy the bonus as it keeps getting you money but then it gives you a good hit.However you need at least 100 dollars to wager 2000-3000 dollars by playing there and spending a huge amount of time with the lowest bet.If you increase the bet then you risk to lose the money faster so I am very curious about those guys who are able to wager 10.000 dollars a week with a low amount like 20-50 dollars. You have to play the original games especially dice or limbo to maximize your wager. Playing slots will not help you a lot to increase your wager, although it gives you a chance to win big in single bet. Mathematically you will lose $1 for every $100 wager in the original games with 1% house edge. Of course it is not a fixed number, it will always depending on your luck but if the main idea is to increase your wager, the original game is a better choice.
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Hypnosis00
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July 20, 2023, 03:19:26 PM |
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They using a drop limit now  not from the amount user can be claimed ~XD Seem like Stake also has a decrease in users as well, if we check on the chat room now the average number of people who are online only with estimated 7000-8000 compared to their highest peak can reach more than 20K users online. People who are playing is decreased right now. What could be the implications of that data? Have other gamblers simply laid low a bit in gambling, or have they transferred to another site? We can't deny that Stake is one of the biggest gambling sites in the crypto world, if not the biggest. So, with that decrease in numbers, it's quite alarming. Or maybe there's an appropriate explanation for that.
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ryzaadit
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July 20, 2023, 06:53:57 PM |
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You can see how many people online are in the "chat-room". Just see that by the data, last time in around 6+ months we have regular users online at the same time with more than 20K. Now, we just got around 7-8K, if they really crown or have some event maybe now only 15K. Feel free to check.
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seleme
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Activity: 2772
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Duelbits.com
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July 20, 2023, 09:48:27 PM Last edit: July 24, 2023, 08:32:13 PM by seleme |
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Stake hunts multi-account owners as far as I know, that is why many people who have created more than 1 account get low bonuses. Monthly bonuses should consider the base amount per VIP but that rules has been removed months ago. Regarding the weekly bonuses, now they count the house edge factor of the most wagered game. The more you wager on originals the less bonus you will get, everything depends on the house edge factor on new VIP bonus system.
I know some users create more than one account they take advantage of bonus codes given by streamers you know for every new user who qualifies they will get up to $35 reload bonus this is one of the reasons why they create multiple accounts. We don't know who to blame, maybe disabling the invite code bonus could be a solution lol. You are right house edge is the main factor for determining our bonus, original games only contribute 1% revenue for stake.com and we will get 15-25% for $10000 wagered Stake.com gets $100 fee as a player we will earn $15-25 well this amount will be divided into several categories rakeback , weekly and monthly bonuses. The calculation will be different if you play a game from a third party the bonus is 4-5 times higher especially for slot games. They have changed the bonus system since last Christmas and now many high-roller VIP users are not satisfied with the current bonus mechanism, IMHO. Multiple accounts are detected by their system, as you can see so many users get very low monthly bonuses like a $5 monthly coupon for plat 2 users. It is not acceptable ration to get a few dollars worth bonuses for such high-level VIP users, Eddie has not explanation for this bonus system probably. I dunno why it is so dead bonus for high plat users, they are responsible to motivate plat users, IMO.
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AHOYBRAUSE
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July 20, 2023, 10:13:25 PM |
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Stake hunts multi-account owners as far as I know, that is why many people who have created more than 1 account get low bonuses. Monthly bonuses should consider the base amount per VIP but that rules has been removed months ago. Regarding the weekly bonuses, now they count the house edge factor of the most wagered game. The more you wager on originals the less bonus you will get, everything depends on the house edge factor on new VIP bonus system.
I know some users create more than one account they take advantage of bonus codes given by streamers you know for every new user who qualifies they will get up to $35 reload bonus this is one of the reasons why they create multiple accounts. We don't know who to blame, maybe disabling the invite code bonus could be a solution lol. You are right house edge is the main factor for determining our bonus, original games only contribute 1% revenue for stake.com and we will get 15-25% for $10000 wagered Stake.com gets $100 fee as a player we will earn $15-25 well this amount will be divided into several categories rakeback , weekly and monthly bonuses. The calculation will be different if you play a game from a third party the bonus is 4-5 times higher especially for slot games. They have changed the bonus system since last Christmas and now many high-roller VIP users are not satisfied with the current bonus mechanism, IMHO. Multiple accounts are detected by their system, as you can see so many users get very low monthly bonuses like a $5 monthly coupon for plat 2 users. I think their multi account detection is not flawless. Many of the accused players say they only have this 1 account they are playing with.There have been many complaints in the stake forum, many of them sound genuine and also a little bit desperate  . If it's true what they say, nobody knows, but I think stake also makes mistakes. I on the other hand, know several people that have 2-3 accounts at stake, and none of them is being blocked from promotions. Last monthly was normal for them, for all accounts. So obviously they are not detected, or at least not yet. 
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danherbias07
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Activity: 3878
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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July 21, 2023, 02:40:04 AM |
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I can still see 10k-15k users online per day (depends on the time of the day too). I don't think there's much of a change in the number of players there is. At it's highest peak it goes from 18k-23k online users. It's having some troubleshooting sometimes which leads to sudden maintenance but I think they are okay, it's not taking that long, maybe less than 5 minutes, and perhaps it's because of the change in UI which I think Stake.com did a great job with. It looks cooler now and in order especially in the sports betting section. Thank you for that. I just wish the update won't lead to a heavier website but more on a smoother one for the best playtime experience.
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July 21, 2023, 02:43:35 AM |
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I think their multi account detection is not flawless. Many of the accused players say they only have this 1 account they are playing with.There have been many complaints in the stake forum, many of them sound genuine and also a little bit desperate  . If it's true what they say, nobody knows, but I think stake also makes mistakes. I on the other hand, know several people that have 2-3 accounts at stake, and none of them is being blocked from promotions. Last monthly was normal for them, for all accounts. So obviously they are not detected, or at least not yet.  If their multi account detection is flawless, their casino will be either compromised by cheaters or their reputation will be damaged by mistaken bans against their users. After years, Stake.com has still maintains its high reputation which says all about their platform, available games, multi account detection tools as well as their trusted operations from provably fair to withdrawal process and customer support. If you run a casino which has flaws behind the scene, it will be exploited by cheaters and just one or few big wins can destroy your casino budget and if you refuse to proceed withdrawal, break your Terms of Service, your casino reputation will be damaged and nearly impossible to recover.
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Kakmakr
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Activity: 3542
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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July 21, 2023, 05:48:48 AM |
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You can see how many people online are in the "chat-room". Just see that by the data, last time in around 6+ months we have regular users online at the same time with more than 20K. Now, we just got around 7-8K, if they really crown or have some event maybe now only 15K. Feel free to check. Is that your own observation or do you get the data from some other source? (Google Analytics) ? There are different time zones, so if that is your own observation, then you might miss the "active" chat users that are online in other time zones. I can say from my own experience, chat numbers have been stable and slightly growing over the years. I started gambling at Stake when the "rain" requirement were much less than what it is now.... and even with all the rain farmers, Stake chat had about 3000+ users per session. I think with all the counter measures for bots that has been implemented by Stake, numbers have been kept under control... so we are just seeing genuine players now. 
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