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January 12, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
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COINSMARKETS Dev.  PLEASE CHANGE THE BOT @coinsmarketschat message.

If you update that bot, everyone will be calmed.  PLEASE!!!!!

even if you just correct severs to servers........ANYTHING!

Please help the traders see progress by this simple gesture.
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January 12, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
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I've been watching the site and this thread since the outage. $6k roughly over there.

It's currently 5 am in Amsterdam and I've seen them rebooting the server for the last 12~hrs now. Much longer than the rest of this week. Either they have Fridays off for their normal job and they are staying up late, or saw the bounty posts and decided sleep is for the weak.

Either way we can see work is being done. I'm still hopeful but at this point extremely stressed and pissed about the lack of communication.

i noticed changes as well. overall atmosphere looks very depressing, but im hoping they will be back - donated 250k axe last month to boost the growth  Undecided

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January 12, 2018, 05:36:24 PM
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NEW STATUS ON CM:

"We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud."

To all users who denounced CM as fraud by the hoster of them:
Due to such postings/mails CM is obviously now additionally to the existing problems forced to change the hoster ...
In other words:
It will surely come to further delays until CM will be online again ... and in my eyes ... all of you who wrote to the hoster are responsible for this further delay!
Thanks to you (*irony off*)!
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January 12, 2018, 05:43:04 PM
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NEW STATUS ON CM:

"We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud."

To all users who denounced CM as fraud by the hoster of them:
Due to such postings CM is obviously now forced to change the hoster too ...
In other words: It will surely come to an furhter delay until CM will be online again ... and in my eyes ... all of you who wrote to the hoster are responsible for this further delay!
Thanks to you (*irony off*)!

I see the message too.

And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.

Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.

Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.
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January 12, 2018, 05:43:54 PM
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I've been thinking about this shit for a while and i came to one conclusion...

No - they are not going to do a grand theft, but i believe they either:

a) got hacked (less likely)
b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.

I mean come on...so they are actually "accusing" people of calling them thieves and fraud and this gives them a perfect reason to keep us waiting even longer? Seems like a perfect explanation to me.
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January 12, 2018, 05:49:26 PM
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I see the message too.

And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.

Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.

Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.

i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable.
but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ...
missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud!
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January 12, 2018, 05:49:34 PM
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FIRST OF ALL THIS MESSAGE MEANS THAT ALL SITE MESSAGES WERE NOT PREPARED AND UPDATING NOW LIVE! ALSO NEW MESSAGE MEANS THAT HOSTING COMPANY HAS A CONTACT WITH THEM, SO IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WE CAN TRACK CM OWNERS, SO CALM DOWN EVERYONE.

ALSO. I WANT TO SAY AND HOPE EVERYONE AGREES THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO OFFEND CM DEV BUT JUST WANTED TO HAVE AN UPDATE. WE DO NOT PLAN TO GO THE LEGAL ROUTE AS LONG AS HE PROVIDES UPDATES AND THINGS ARE IMPROVING.



SO PLEASE, GUYS, DONT MAKE SITUATION WORSE! CALM DOWN AND GIVE THEM SOMETIME! TELEGRAM GROUP FOUNDERS WILL CONTACT THE HOST AGAIN AND EXPLAIN THE SITUATION, THE ONLY GREAT MISTAKE OF CM DEVS IS LACK OF COMMUNICATION. AT LEAST ONE POST HERE OR CHANGING BOT MESSAGE COULD EASILY CALM DOWN A LOT OF ANGRY CUSTOMERS.
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January 12, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
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NEW STATUS ON CM:

"We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud."

To all users who denounced CM as fraud by the hoster of them:
Due to such postings/mails CM is obviously now additionally to the existing problems forced to change the hoster ...
In other words:
It will surely come to further delays until CM will be online again ... and in my eyes ... all of you who wrote to the hoster are responsible for this further delay!
Thanks to you (*irony off*)!

Right... CoinsMarkets are completely absolved from shutting down their site for over a week, with no warning and no updates or communication with the people who have money there, because those people had to investigate for themselves to try and find out what was going on. I can't believe that you actually buy their BS and defend them..
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January 12, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
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b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.

yes ... i also think they are absolutely overwhelmed ... and i think not "they" rather "he" (i think it's only 1 person behind CM!) Wink
and then ... this one person has absolutely no time to communicate ... especially not if he has no really idea where the problem is ...
what should he say ... i've problem but i don't know how to fix it? Wink
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January 12, 2018, 05:57:42 PM
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I see the message too.

And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.

Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.

Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.

i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable.
but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ...
missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud!

The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.

Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.
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January 12, 2018, 06:14:38 PM
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I bet CM is running by some 18-20 years old nerds. I can't imagine a serious website owner to bring shit like this:
Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.



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January 12, 2018, 06:16:24 PM
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The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.

Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.

But the point is also ... the page was never completely offline and some progress can be seen all 1-2 days (the status changed, the login was possible for some, the cloudflare-errors were fewer, ...).
So he "delivers" ... but very very very slow and with very very very less information about the progress!
The site does not standstill longer than 1-2 days ... then progresses can be seen again.

at the moment i see it as following:

since 7 days not 10 (they can be seen trades on 01/05/2018 also myself i do a withdraw on that day)

unprofessional ... yes
inacceptable ... yes
believe in fraud ... maybe, ok ... i'm also thinking about it as possible
in fact a fraud ... no, not at this time
contacting hoster and others to insinuate a fraud ... absolutely inacceptable at this time (if the site was completely gone vor 7 days and no communication, ok)
hireing a hitman to do him something bad  ... no comment ... only sick brains in my eyes

thats my opinioin at this moment
and i don't stand by CM or defend their unprofessional behaviour ... but some post's here and actions (writing the hoster and denounce CM as fraud) are not lesser unprofessional and sick ...

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January 12, 2018, 06:17:51 PM
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this is what they or somebody else wrote in the chat
@CoinsMarketsIsFRAUDS
Changes to Website
CoinsMarkets will always attempt to keep its users informed of any
changes to the website. However, CoinsMarkets may terminate, change,
suspend or discontinue any aspect of this website, including the
availability of features of the site, at any time. CoinsMarkets may also
impose limits on certain features and services or restrict your access
to part or the entire website without prior notice or liability.


* It was originally in green.
so they may restrict your access
to part or the entire website without prior notice or liability.


Now they are threatening us !
CM are thinking that they are invincible !

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January 12, 2018, 06:22:35 PM
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b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.

yes ... i also think they are absolutely overwhelmed ... and i think not "they" rather "he" (i think it's only 1 person behind CM!) Wink
and then ... this one person has absolutely no time to communicate ... especially not if he has no really idea where the problem is ...
what should he say ... i've problem but i don't know how to fix it? Wink


Yes, agree. I think it's only 1 dev, or at least a very small team. I also have to say that they take their time, I'm sure this could be done faster. But I do think that they didn't foresee how high emotions would run. And ofcourse, people have a lot of money in CM and worry about their money. Then these 10 days are very long, especially with limited communication from CM. But starting a manhunt will not solve this, it only makes things worse.


I see the message too.

And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.

Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.

Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.

i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable.
but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ...
missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud!

The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.

Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.

I'm glad that most of you are not the devs of CM. So much FUD and lying around here. I'm reading bitcointalk for years already, but I just registred because the FUD about CM is really unbelievable.
WTF "completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days??" They/he gave us updates every 2-3 days. The thing is, we all get inpatient (including myself) because it's about a lot of money. Then an update every 2-3 days is not enough, and that's what the devs of CM should understand and improve.
Believe me, I've been there. Lost money in both Dgex and Cryptsy. This is different, and it's very obvious. The only thing we can and should do is wait, although I completely understand that it might feel unnatural to just wait and sit. But believe me, with waiting you have the highest chance to get your money back.
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January 12, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
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I bet CM is running by some 18-20 years old nerds. I can't imagine a serious website owner to bring shit like this:
Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.

yes ... i also think so ... i'm going forward a step and say not "some" only one or maybe two! Wink

but i believe ... the site come's back ... maybe it will take a long time (long in cryptotrading - so another week or two) ... but at the end ... CM will be online again ... as soon as the one or two (maybe 18-20 old nerds) find the error in the db they don't know at the moment! Wink
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January 12, 2018, 06:28:12 PM
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We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.


unprofessional its so sad that they cant give a prober statement about this or atleast more information about the status what is going on
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January 12, 2018, 06:29:14 PM
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The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.

Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.

But the point is also ... the page was never completely offline and some progress can be seen all 1-2 days (the status changed, the login was possible for some, the cloudflare-errors were fewer, ...).
So he "delivers" ... but very very very slow and with very very very less information about the progress!
The site does not standstill longer than 1-2 days ... then progresses can be seen again.

at the moment i see it as following:

since 7 days not 10 (they can be seen trades on 01/05/2018 also myself i do a withdraw on that day)

unprofessional ... yes
inacceptable ... yes
believe in fraud ... maybe, ok ... i'm also thinking about it as possible
in fact a fraud ... no, not at this time
contacting hoster and others to insinuate a fraud ... absolutely inacceptable at this time (if the site was completely gone vor 7 days and no communication, ok)
hireing a hitman to do him something bad  ... no comment ... only sick brains in my eyes

thats my opinioin at this moment
and i don't stand by CM or defend their unprofessional behaviour ... but some post's here and actions (writing the hoster and denounce CM as fraud) are not lesser unprofessional and sick ...




Couldn't agree more.


I bet CM is running by some 18-20 years old nerds. I can't imagine a serious website owner to bring shit like this:
Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.

yes ... i also think so ... i'm going forward a step and say not "some" only one or maybe two! Wink

but i believe ... the site come's back ... maybe it will take a long time (long in cryptotrading - so another week or two) ... but at the end ... CM will be online again ... as soon as the one or two (maybe 18-20 old nerds) find the error in the db they don't know at the moment! Wink


I think it indeed will take a long time still. Only way to make sure you don't get your funds back is to start chasing this guy(s) and make sure they can't host their sites anymore
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January 12, 2018, 06:30:43 PM
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b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.

yes ... i also think they are absolutely overwhelmed ... and i think not "they" rather "he" (i think it's only 1 person behind CM!) Wink
and then ... this one person has absolutely no time to communicate ... especially not if he has no really idea where the problem is ...
what should he say ... i've problem but i don't know how to fix it? Wink

Yes, agree. I think it's only 1 dev, or at least a very small team. I also have to say that they take their time, I'm sure this could be done faster. But I do think that they didn't foresee how high emotions would run. And ofcourse, people have a lot of money in CM and worry about their money. Then these 10 days are very long, especially with limited communication from CM. But starting a manhunt will not solve this, it only makes things worse.

I see the message too.

And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.

Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.

Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.

i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable.
but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ...
missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud!

The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.

Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.

I'm glad that most of you are not the devs of CM. So much FUD and lying around here. WTF "completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days??" They/he gave us updates every 2-3 days. The thing is, we all get inpatient (including myself) because it's about a lot of money. Then an update every 2-3 days is not enough, and that's what the devs of CM should understand and improve.
Believe me, I've been there. Lost money in both Dgex and Cryptsy. This is different, and it's very obvious. The only thing we can and should do is wait, although I completely understand that it might feel unnatural to just wait and sit. But believe me, with waiting you have the highest chance to get your money back.

i agree ... 100% ...
and many of us do good earnings on this exchange in the past i think ... but forget it now and hit the exchange as a fraud
and i believe ... the CM-dev will learn for the future!
and now i'm out here and i will patiently wait for the return of CM!
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January 12, 2018, 07:01:24 PM
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Is he working hard Huh

" We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud. "
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this should be documented somewhere for future references  Cool

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