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b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.
yes ... i also think they are absolutely overwhelmed ... and i think not "they" rather "he" (i think it's only 1 person behind CM!) and then ... this one person has absolutely no time to communicate ... especially not if he has no really idea where the problem is ... what should he say ... i've problem but i don't know how to fix it?
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I see the message too.
And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.
Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.
Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.
i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable. but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ... missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud! The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed. Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.
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I bet CM is running by some 18-20 years old nerds. I can't imagine a serious website owner to bring shit like this: Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.
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January 12, 2018, 06:16:24 PM |
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The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.
Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.
But the point is also ... the page was never completely offline and some progress can be seen all 1-2 days (the status changed, the login was possible for some, the cloudflare-errors were fewer, ...). So he "delivers" ... but very very very slow and with very very very less information about the progress! The site does not standstill longer than 1-2 days ... then progresses can be seen again. at the moment i see it as following: since 7 days not 10 (they can be seen trades on 01/05/2018 also myself i do a withdraw on that day) unprofessional ... yes inacceptable ... yes believe in fraud ... maybe, ok ... i'm also thinking about it as possible in fact a fraud ... no, not at this time contacting hoster and others to insinuate a fraud ... absolutely inacceptable at this time (if the site was completely gone vor 7 days and no communication, ok) hireing a hitman to do him something bad ... no comment ... only sick brains in my eyes thats my opinioin at this moment and i don't stand by CM or defend their unprofessional behaviour ... but some post's here and actions (writing the hoster and denounce CM as fraud) are not lesser unprofessional and sick ...
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January 12, 2018, 06:17:51 PM |
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this is what they or somebody else wrote in the chat @CoinsMarketsIsFRAUDS Changes to Website CoinsMarkets will always attempt to keep its users informed of any changes to the website. However, CoinsMarkets may terminate, change, suspend or discontinue any aspect of this website, including the availability of features of the site, at any time. CoinsMarkets may also impose limits on certain features and services or restrict your access to part or the entire website without prior notice or liability.
* It was originally in green. so they may restrict your access to part or the entire website without prior notice or liability.
Now they are threatening us ! CM are thinking that they are invincible !
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January 12, 2018, 06:22:35 PM |
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b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.
yes ... i also think they are absolutely overwhelmed ... and i think not "they" rather "he" (i think it's only 1 person behind CM!) and then ... this one person has absolutely no time to communicate ... especially not if he has no really idea where the problem is ... what should he say ... i've problem but i don't know how to fix it? Yes, agree. I think it's only 1 dev, or at least a very small team. I also have to say that they take their time, I'm sure this could be done faster. But I do think that they didn't foresee how high emotions would run. And ofcourse, people have a lot of money in CM and worry about their money. Then these 10 days are very long, especially with limited communication from CM. But starting a manhunt will not solve this, it only makes things worse. I see the message too.
And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.
Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.
Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.
i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable. but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ... missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud! The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed. Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange. I'm glad that most of you are not the devs of CM. So much FUD and lying around here. I'm reading bitcointalk for years already, but I just registred because the FUD about CM is really unbelievable. WTF "completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days??" They/he gave us updates every 2-3 days. The thing is, we all get inpatient (including myself) because it's about a lot of money. Then an update every 2-3 days is not enough, and that's what the devs of CM should understand and improve. Believe me, I've been there. Lost money in both Dgex and Cryptsy. This is different, and it's very obvious. The only thing we can and should do is wait, although I completely understand that it might feel unnatural to just wait and sit. But believe me, with waiting you have the highest chance to get your money back.
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January 12, 2018, 06:23:38 PM |
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I bet CM is running by some 18-20 years old nerds. I can't imagine a serious website owner to bring shit like this: Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.
yes ... i also think so ... i'm going forward a step and say not "some" only one or maybe two! but i believe ... the site come's back ... maybe it will take a long time (long in cryptotrading - so another week or two) ... but at the end ... CM will be online again ... as soon as the one or two (maybe 18-20 old nerds) find the error in the db they don't know at the moment!
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January 12, 2018, 06:28:12 PM |
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We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud. unprofessional its so sad that they cant give a prober statement about this or atleast more information about the status what is going on
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January 12, 2018, 06:29:14 PM |
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The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed.
Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange.
But the point is also ... the page was never completely offline and some progress can be seen all 1-2 days (the status changed, the login was possible for some, the cloudflare-errors were fewer, ...). So he "delivers" ... but very very very slow and with very very very less information about the progress! The site does not standstill longer than 1-2 days ... then progresses can be seen again. at the moment i see it as following: since 7 days not 10 (they can be seen trades on 01/05/2018 also myself i do a withdraw on that day) unprofessional ... yes inacceptable ... yes believe in fraud ... maybe, ok ... i'm also thinking about it as possible in fact a fraud ... no, not at this time contacting hoster and others to insinuate a fraud ... absolutely inacceptable at this time (if the site was completely gone vor 7 days and no communication, ok) hireing a hitman to do him something bad ... no comment ... only sick brains in my eyes thats my opinioin at this moment and i don't stand by CM or defend their unprofessional behaviour ... but some post's here and actions (writing the hoster and denounce CM as fraud) are not lesser unprofessional and sick ... Couldn't agree more. I bet CM is running by some 18-20 years old nerds. I can't imagine a serious website owner to bring shit like this: Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud.
yes ... i also think so ... i'm going forward a step and say not "some" only one or maybe two! but i believe ... the site come's back ... maybe it will take a long time (long in cryptotrading - so another week or two) ... but at the end ... CM will be online again ... as soon as the one or two (maybe 18-20 old nerds) find the error in the db they don't know at the moment! I think it indeed will take a long time still. Only way to make sure you don't get your funds back is to start chasing this guy(s) and make sure they can't host their sites anymore
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January 12, 2018, 06:30:43 PM |
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b) have zero fucking clue how to handle this situation at all, even worse - they don't have a knowledge how to solve this mess and are trying to buy some time just by releasing these weird statements.
yes ... i also think they are absolutely overwhelmed ... and i think not "they" rather "he" (i think it's only 1 person behind CM!) and then ... this one person has absolutely no time to communicate ... especially not if he has no really idea where the problem is ... what should he say ... i've problem but i don't know how to fix it? Yes, agree. I think it's only 1 dev, or at least a very small team. I also have to say that they take their time, I'm sure this could be done faster. But I do think that they didn't foresee how high emotions would run. And ofcourse, people have a lot of money in CM and worry about their money. Then these 10 days are very long, especially with limited communication from CM. But starting a manhunt will not solve this, it only makes things worse. I see the message too.
And no, the users who wrote to the hoster are not responsible for the delay. CM basically shut down and said absolutely nothing for over a week. If they had at least kept up to date on social media or reached out the dev teams for larger coins to assure them that everything was kosher, that'd be another story. People had every right to believe they were being conned and to contact the hoster.
Now, if you want to complain about the people who said they were donating towards having a hitman take care of the guy, then go right ahead. That's fair game.
Also, I still wouldn't consider us out of the woods until we can actually move our coins around.
i agree with you, that the missing communication was a desaster, not professional and absolutely inacceptable. but i also think ... thats not really a reason to say it's an fraud ... missing communication is not a fraud, isn't it? It's unprofessional, it's a fault but in my eyes for a long time no fraud! The point is that based on how they acted, even if everything does turn out okay in the end, people had every reason in the world to believe that they were being robbed. Imagine if you bought something off a dude from ebay and he is unable to ship it your item right away, and then proceeds to completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days. You would think just got scammed. Now multiple that by feeling by several hundred or several thousand when you consider the amounts some people actually have tied up by this exchange. I'm glad that most of you are not the devs of CM. So much FUD and lying around here. WTF "completely quiet and ignore you for 10 days??" They/he gave us updates every 2-3 days. The thing is, we all get inpatient (including myself) because it's about a lot of money. Then an update every 2-3 days is not enough, and that's what the devs of CM should understand and improve. Believe me, I've been there. Lost money in both Dgex and Cryptsy. This is different, and it's very obvious. The only thing we can and should do is wait, although I completely understand that it might feel unnatural to just wait and sit. But believe me, with waiting you have the highest chance to get your money back. i agree ... 100% ... and many of us do good earnings on this exchange in the past i think ... but forget it now and hit the exchange as a fraud and i believe ... the CM-dev will learn for the future! and now i'm out here and i will patiently wait for the return of CM!
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January 12, 2018, 07:01:24 PM |
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Is he working hard " We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud. "
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January 12, 2018, 07:07:37 PM |
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this should be documented somewhere for future references
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January 12, 2018, 07:07:52 PM |
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Is he working hard " We are here to stay , there is few DB issue we are fixing due to DB overload . Now we may be moving due to users contacting hosting and calling us a fraud. " Well, eventually someone start getting to their asses. They fully deserved that.
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January 12, 2018, 07:07:57 PM |
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This inscription on the site does not mean anything. The swindler can smell cocaine in Mexico and write any inscriptions. He himself is to blame for not having announced any news all this time.
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January 12, 2018, 07:29:03 PM |
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So some guy on twitter has an email from the hosting company, claiming they sold coinsmarkets 3 new servers and coinsmarkets have responded to the accusation of fraud
Did he post it?
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January 12, 2018, 07:34:39 PM |
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I've been using coinsmarkets for some months, but the interface is horrible and don't work at all in mobile devices. I think that their first priority is change the website design.
Everything else works fine, I need some supporte once and they answered fast, so I don't have nothing to complaint.
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January 12, 2018, 07:40:06 PM |
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i can honestly say ,on almost every exchange i have ever put any kind of value ... i have always made money! i got burned on 2 exchanges so far "MtGox" and C-Cex, the first was because no one saw it coming and crypto was still unknown to the masses! the second because they are real assholes! even cryptsy was too late to take my money because from after MGOX i adopted one very simple rule for myself and never allow myself to trust others with my cash. the only safe wallet is a empty wallet if i cannot hold the coins in my local computer :then i should not have those coins! sure i will send to different exchanges and trade but i will not leave on any exchange longer then the few moments i do my trading then transfer off the exchange to my local wallet! BTW i also keep my local wallets in cold storage and never connect then directly to the internet!using the function of directly connecting to known nodes only to sync the blockchain! the known fact that when you store values on another persons computer is a trust factor and the only person to blame if that trust is broken is yourself YOU sent the cash there and that was your choice! very well knowing that at any moment and time he could do exactly as he did or even alot worst! you trusted that website so only you are to blame! change your ways and trust no one is the only safe practice in crypto! anything other then that is all your own fault! i know this sounds harsh but it is also the safest of ways to be.
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January 12, 2018, 07:45:17 PM |
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Great so the IDIOTS stroking each others hate-boners have finally achieved something.
They achieved that we all have to wait longer by putting more obstacles in the teams way... hoo-fucking-ray, well done!
There have been numerous detailed very simple explanations why a witch hunt at this point and during the last days was of now use. Still, the same people furthered FUD, harassed the host and whined to the point where they actually caused acute harm to the situation.
Just like it was explained to them, over and over again - this was the only thing they could possible achieved... How can one be so immature, impatient and narrow sighted. All money held in any exchange you can't effort to loose is your fault to begin with.
It wasn't CM taking their Page down, it is the situation of hundreds of thousands of people coming into crypto every day.
I haven't been able to make trades on Cryptopia for days cause they "Pause Markets" all the time. Binance, Cryptopia, Bitfinex and several other even bigger Exchanges have Paused (some still today) registration for new users.
Who is seriously surprised, that the current situation is too much to handle for a small exchange...
It's disappointing yeah - but all that FUD and pseudo self righteous attacks didn't help at all - it made the situation worse! And that is not a surprise. That was from the beginning the only logical outcome -.-'
If CM turns out to be fraud, you did not help! If CM comes back, you made it harder and take longer! That simple.
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