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September 24, 2013, 03:49:55 PM |
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I think those loans gives 0.05% daily are good options too, but the price is already too high.
Vmc and labcoin will probably rise again, if you are willing to take the risk...
take labcoin elsewhere, that's for players... |
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velacreations (OP)
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September 24, 2013, 03:58:12 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you  I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? |
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velacreations (OP)
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September 24, 2013, 03:59:39 PM |
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I think those loans gives 0.05% daily are good options too, but the price is already too high.
Vmc and labcoin will probably rise again, if you are willing to take the risk...
Labcoin is falling further and further behind schedule. Day traders can pump and dump and make a profit right now, but serious investors are leaving that security, as the likelihood of success diminishes by the day. |
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bbxx
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September 24, 2013, 04:01:17 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... |
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velacreations (OP)
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September 24, 2013, 04:05:01 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... yes, but we won't actually see anything for several weeks. Until then, people have to live with weak dividends, and that might prove to be difficult for some. |
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binaryFate
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September 24, 2013, 04:06:18 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... yes, but we won't actually see anything for several weeks. Until then, people have to live with weak dividends, and that might prove to be difficult for some. I whish I would live out of dividends, even if it proves difficult.  |
Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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glendall
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September 24, 2013, 05:49:07 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... yes, but we won't actually see anything for several weeks. Until then, people have to live with weak dividends, and that might prove to be difficult for some. Weaker dividends compared to who? I'm curious. Which securities offer better divididends than Asicminer, even at 0.01 ? |
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bbxx
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September 24, 2013, 06:06:10 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... yes, but we won't actually see anything for several weeks. Until then, people have to live with weak dividends, and that might prove to be difficult for some. Weaker dividends compared to who? I'm curious. Which securities offer better divididends than Asicminer, even at 0.01 ? thats is my point labcoin divs 150 satoshi vmc divs 160 satoshi like that... pmbs divs are good but their share price goes lower with diffilcuty rise... |
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September 24, 2013, 06:12:54 PM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... yes, but we won't actually see anything for several weeks. Until then, people have to live with weak dividends, and that might prove to be difficult for some. Weaker dividends compared to who? I'm curious. Which securities offer better divididends than Asicminer, even at 0.01 ? Strawman argument. Weaker dividends compared to ASICMiner. That is a trend, so you might expect AM dividends to be even lower in the future (certainly the far future, near future is less clear). Similarly, other mining companies paid NO dividends until very recently. |
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velacreations (OP)
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September 24, 2013, 06:30:44 PM |
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Weaker dividends compared to ASICMiner. That is a trend, so you might expect AM dividends to be even lower in the future (certainly the far future, near future is less clear).
Why are you guys making me agree with Vycid? But seriously, the dividend will be weak compared to previous AM dividends. It is likely that the divs will be low for a few weeks, and then start to improve. |
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September 24, 2013, 06:32:45 PM |
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Weaker dividends compared to ASICMiner. That is a trend, so you might expect AM dividends to be even lower in the future (certainly the far future, near future is less clear).
Why are you guys making me agree with Vycid? But seriously, the dividend will be weak compared to previous AM dividends. It is likely that the divs will be low for a few weeks, and then start to improve. Yeah, we probably have to endure three weak dividends until it takes up again |
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Vycid
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September 24, 2013, 06:44:07 PM |
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Why are you guys making me agree with Vycid?
Have you been disagreeing with me this whole time just out of spite? That must have been expensive. |
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September 25, 2013, 03:12:59 AM
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I bought a few more shares at <2.
The divs alone are worth it at this low price.
Only if the dividends are maintained. I think with bitfury shipping and more of the competitors with October/November shipping dates, ASICMiner does not seem to be giving out news indicating it will be able to keep up with this next generation. It was easy when their competition was BFL and Avalon (2 poorly run companies), but now serious competition has come and minig about to be commoditized. You can quote me on this - Asicminer is at 2.2 right now. It will see 1.2 BTC before 3.2 BTC. I'll quote it. Gentlemans wager of 1 BTC? You pick the exchange. I am more like 0.5 BTC sure;) BTCT the exchange on the ASICMINER-PT shares. I win if any trades for 1.2 BTC before 3.2 BTCYou win if vice-versa deall? Sounds good! No short selling on your part. I'll keep to my word. If you worried, we can escrow the bets. Hey kibble, I won our bet! We hit 1 BTC yesterday (below the 1.2 BTC I called before 3.2 BTC). Pay up:) |
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freedomno1
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September 25, 2013, 04:22:32 AM |
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Was witness to this bet so yep its legit
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September 25, 2013, 06:37:19 AM |
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Burnside has stated that shares held with him will go direct. However, Friedcat's update suggests a migration to TAT/Havelock AM1 "if agreeable".
I would prefer direct shares at this point. Any idea what's going to happen?
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September 25, 2013, 08:23:48 AM |
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When I asked Burnside about what would happen to ASICMINER-PT shares, he confirmed that if you do nothing before October 10th, all remaining shares will be converted to direct shares. If you would prefer to have them on Havelock, TAT has offered to convert anyone's shares to AM1 shares. You are welcome to push your ASICMINER-PT shares to my account on BTCT.co, TATInvestments, where I can convert them to AM1 shares on Havelock. See https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=AM1 for full details and instructions. There are no management fees on dividends for AM1 and Havelock has low trade fees as well. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS UNTIL AFTER THIS WEEK'S DIVIDENDS. ALSO DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO EXPORT TO DIRECT SHARES FASTER (IT WILL NOT BE FASTER, IF YOU INTEND TO HOLD DIRECT SHARES, JUST WAIT FOR BURNSIDE TO DO THEM). Havelock only charges .4% trade fees on Sales, there is no fee to Buy, nor any fees to have an account. |
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September 25, 2013, 10:21:39 AM |
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I think i will craft some options especially for you I admire your optimism, but I'm curious, what do you think will keep the share price up after tomorrow's div of < .01? Hardware sales will be big but most important is board statment... yes, but we won't actually see anything for several weeks. Until then, people have to live with weak dividends, and that might prove to be difficult for some. Having to live with weak dividends for "entire weeks". I know mining is is short-term game but if all you can think about is the next couple of weeks, you really shouldn't be investing in anything at all. Its ridiculous. |
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September 25, 2013, 10:22:40 AM |
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Weaker dividends compared to ASICMiner. That is a trend, so you might expect AM dividends to be even lower in the future (certainly the far future, near future is less clear).
Why are you guys making me agree with Vycid? But seriously, the dividend will be weak compared to previous AM dividends. It is likely that the divs will be low for a few weeks, and then start to improve. Yeah, we probably have to endure three weak dividends until it takes up again Just how hard is that? To wait three weeks? Honestly ........... |
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tarmi
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September 25, 2013, 10:42:29 AM |
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Just how hard is that? To wait three weeks? Honestly ...........
lets ask BFL customers how hard is to wait for 2 weeks. |
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September 25, 2013, 12:45:42 PM |
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Just how hard is that? To wait three weeks? Honestly ...........
lets ask BFL customers how hard is to wait for 2 weeks. They didn't wait 2 weeks. They waited 8 months. apples and oranges. |
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