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October 10, 2014, 04:27:25 AM
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Nice looking ~55,000CAP buy wall on Cryptsy tonight  Cheesy
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October 10, 2014, 04:53:31 AM
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Nice looking ~55,000CAP buy wall on Cryptsy tonight  Cheesy

Yeah...it looks like the cheap, quiet accumulation period is just about over. No miner dump and no bagholders - the word is out.
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October 10, 2014, 05:42:26 AM
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Nice looking ~55,000CAP buy wall on Cryptsy tonight  Cheesy

My guess is someone bought BTC recently with the quick dip <$300 and is looking for somewhere to park their money.

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October 11, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
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Hi guys, can someone help me out? I am looking for a block explorer for caps that shows the coin supply for a given block. CCE has a lot of info but i don't seem to be able to show the historic coin supply. The same goes for the integrated explorer in the wallet if I am not mistaken.

With this information I can calculate the inflation rate due to expanding supply. I did this already for HBN which revealed some interesting info. 

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October 11, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
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With this information I can calculate the inflation rate due to expanding supply. I did this already for HBN which revealed some interesting info. 

Can You share with us your thoughts? Smiley
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October 11, 2014, 11:14:33 AM
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i will follow that twitter.

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October 11, 2014, 03:36:17 PM
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With this information I can calculate the inflation rate due to expanding supply. I did this already for HBN which revealed some interesting info. 

Can You share with us your thoughts? Smiley

Sure,

To start, I am into HighPOS-coins because I think its the smartest way of 'mining' coins. You reading this probably means you kind off figured this out too. But highPOS comes with a potential problem as well: High inflation because coins are multipling themselves, 1 becomes 2 and then 4, 8, 16, 32 etc. Before you know it, the coin supply gets bigger exponentially, which will eventually force their value down in the same pace.

Some months ago, I went digging in the HBN blockchain to see how the monthly inflation rate due to POS-staking was developing in reality. It became clear that in case of HBN it's not spiralling out of control. Not at all, it's actually getting lower every month. HBN seems to be designed in a way that prevents exponential inflation. I have some idea's why but for now, that not the point.

I was wondering whether the other HighPOS coins behaved the same way as HBN or not. CAP is twice the POS rate but compared to HBN similar in design. I am really interested to find out all about CAP-inflation. How high is it? And how does it evolve?

So I am planning on investigating HBN, CAP, TEK and HYP in this respect. I managed to find useable blockexplorers for all of them except CAP. That's why I was asking for some help. 

When I am done, I'll share my findings, I am curious to know what you High-POS-guys think of it!


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October 11, 2014, 04:08:50 PM
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With this information I can calculate the inflation rate due to expanding supply. I did this already for HBN which revealed some interesting info. 

Can You share with us your thoughts? Smiley

Sure,

To start, I am into HighPOS-coins because I think its the smartest way of 'mining' coins. You reading this probably means you kind off figured this out too. But highPOS comes with a potential problem as well: High inflation because coins are multipling themselves, 1 becomes 2 and then 4, 8, 16, 32 etc. Before you know it, the coin supply gets bigger exponentially, which will eventually force their value down in the same pace.

Some months ago, I went digging in the HBN blockchain to see how the monthly inflation rate due to POS-staking was developing in reality. It became clear that in case of HBN it's not spiralling out of control. Not at all, it's actually getting lower every month. HBN seems to be designed in a way that prevents exponential inflation. I have some idea's why but for now, that not the point.

I was wondering whether the other HighPOS coins behaved the same way as HBN or not. CAP is twice the POS rate but compared to HBN similar in design. I am really interested to find out all about CAP-inflation. How high is it? And how does it evolve?

So I am planning on investigating HBN, CAP, TEK and HYP in this respect. I managed to find useable blockexplorers for all of them except CAP. That's why I was asking for some help. 

When I am done, I'll share my findings, I am curious to know what you High-POS-guys think of it!



HBN and CAP both use the CCE for block explorers.

http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/


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October 11, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
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HBN and CAP both use the CCE for block explorers.

http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/


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I've checked it out but I don't know where I can find the the supply for a given block. It states only:
 Height   Age   Transactions   Total Sent   Difficulty   Size
Or am I looking with my nose?

HBN & CAP: F1PressF1PCxEyESGk6Fe1om1RfiHqX5gg
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October 11, 2014, 05:32:09 PM
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25% from me James.
Estimated to start staking around 2-5 October.
I only acquired a reasonable amount lately.

Thanks rgm, it's appreciated Smiley. I just bought another 750 Cap so I'll throw that in too.


There you go:
http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/transaction?transaction=f1d43244bcbdcf1fb07410992f710d4c2b052df1ec03038f90f64bd8807f415d

It's not much but there are some more blocks due to stake in the next few days...

This functionality works so smooth. Well done Tranz !!
Thanks rgm! Any small amount helps. Hopefully we can get some nice looking icons made up. I'll keep throwing in some more CAP once I stake as well. Any more help will be appreciated. I should be able to put some more in next stake period from me..

Some Caps from me TrxID: e451211d1283ad554c96104ad19e5b3f8ac1b4aacf1e3092638ecfb1d923a5a0  Wink
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October 11, 2014, 05:45:56 PM
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HBN and CAP both use the CCE for block explorers.

http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/


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I've checked it out but I don't know where I can find the the supply for a given block. It states only:
 Height   Age   Transactions   Total Sent   Difficulty   Size
Or am I looking with my nose?
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Click on blockrange, and then click on the block you want to look at. It has both the inputs and stake reward.
You may also be able to use the block browser in the gui to help with your analysis. It takes the transaction ID and will give you inputs/outputs, rewards, net stake wight, difficulty, ect..

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October 11, 2014, 06:17:26 PM
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Thanks Tranz, for your help, but I really don't seem to find it. It's the total coin-supply that I am looking for. In the abe-explorer for it's called 'outstanding',

Block   Approx. Time   Transactions   Value Out   Difficulty   Outstanding
1295353   2014-10-11 18:08:19   2   38.605803   0.005    6642738.525239
1295352   2014-10-11 18:07:30   2   33.957657   0.005    6642733.079788
 
By checking what that value is on every first block of the past months, i can reconstruct how it evolves.

HBN & CAP: F1PressF1PCxEyESGk6Fe1om1RfiHqX5gg
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October 11, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
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Thanks Tranz, for your help, but I really don't seem to find it. It's the total coin-supply that I am looking for. In the abe-explorer for it's called 'outstanding',

Block   Approx. Time   Transactions   Value Out   Difficulty   Outstanding
1295353   2014-10-11 18:08:19   2   38.605803   0.005    6642738.525239
1295352   2014-10-11 18:07:30   2   33.957657   0.005    6642733.079788
 
By checking what that value is on every first block of the past months, i can reconstruct how it evolves.

Ahh ok. Sorry I didn't understand. Let me see..

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October 11, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
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Thanks Tranz, for your help, but I really don't seem to find it. It's the total coin-supply that I am looking for. In the abe-explorer for it's called 'outstanding',

Block   Approx. Time   Transactions   Value Out   Difficulty   Outstanding
1295353   2014-10-11 18:08:19   2   38.605803   0.005    6642738.525239
1295352   2014-10-11 18:07:30   2   33.957657   0.005    6642733.079788
 
By checking what that value is on every first block of the past months, i can reconstruct how it evolves.

Ahh ok. Sorry I didn't understand. Let me see..

I'll update the internal block explorer to give you the money supply on the block you select. Give me a few hours to day or so..

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0 hobonickels.info
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October 11, 2014, 07:35:47 PM
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Thanks Tranz, for your help, but I really don't seem to find it. It's the total coin-supply that I am looking for. In the abe-explorer for it's called 'outstanding',

Block   Approx. Time   Transactions   Value Out   Difficulty   Outstanding
1295353   2014-10-11 18:08:19   2   38.605803   0.005    6642738.525239
1295352   2014-10-11 18:07:30   2   33.957657   0.005    6642733.079788
 
By checking what that value is on every first block of the past months, i can reconstruct how it evolves.

Ahh ok. Sorry I didn't understand. Let me see..

I'll update the internal block explorer to give you the money supply on the block you select. Give me a few hours to day or so..

No hurry, thanks!


HBN & CAP: F1PressF1PCxEyESGk6Fe1om1RfiHqX5gg
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October 11, 2014, 09:17:21 PM
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Thanks Tranz, for your help, but I really don't seem to find it. It's the total coin-supply that I am looking for. In the abe-explorer for it's called 'outstanding',

Block   Approx. Time   Transactions   Value Out   Difficulty   Outstanding
1295353   2014-10-11 18:08:19   2   38.605803   0.005    6642738.525239
1295352   2014-10-11 18:07:30   2   33.957657   0.005    6642733.079788
 
By checking what that value is on every first block of the past months, i can reconstruct how it evolves.

Ahh ok. Sorry I didn't understand. Let me see..

I'll update the internal block explorer to give you the money supply on the block you select. Give me a few hours to day or so..

No hurry, thanks!



This should do it,
https://github.com/Tranz5/bottlecaps/commit/24130f8a518652b3785e3b8a17dd941925234e5a

I'll compile a release version here later.

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October 11, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
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Probably should have written more on it.  


Check Mark on Minimize to system tray
No Check Mark on Minimize on close

So when its maximized and I click the X to close, it minimizes to the system tray, even tho "Minimize on close" is not checked.
When I remove the checkmark in "Minimize to system tray" and i click the X, it closes out the Bottlecaps QT client.  So it seems like when "minimize to system tray" is checked that its actually enabling both options.

Ahh ok, I follow you now. I'll look at it as time permits. Thanks for the bug report.

This is working as designed. If you only have the Minimize on close checked, it will still allow you to minimize to the task bar using the minimize button. If you use the close button it goes to the tray.

But as you noted just the "Minimize to system tray" basically enables both.

It both makes sense and could be adjusted.

The code to do this is simple.

Code:
void BitcoinGUI::closeEvent(QCloseEvent *event)
{
    if(clientModel)
    {
#ifndef Q_OS_MAC // Ignored on Mac
        if(!clientModel->getOptionsModel()->getMinimizeToTray() &&
           !clientModel->getOptionsModel()->getMinimizeOnClose())
        {
            qApp->quit();
        }
#endif
    }
    QMainWindow::closeEvent(event);
}

All that would need to be done is to remove the getMinimizeToTray from that if statement, and only the one check box will allow the X to minimize.

FYI BTC at current version has not changed this at all.

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October 11, 2014, 11:32:32 PM
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Thanks Tranz for the auto-save feature on the 2.2 CAP wallet. It really is a nice touch!  Smiley
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October 12, 2014, 03:51:57 AM
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Thanks Tranz, for your help, but I really don't seem to find it. It's the total coin-supply that I am looking for. In the abe-explorer for it's called 'outstanding',

Block   Approx. Time   Transactions   Value Out   Difficulty   Outstanding
1295353   2014-10-11 18:08:19   2   38.605803   0.005    6642738.525239
1295352   2014-10-11 18:07:30   2   33.957657   0.005    6642733.079788
 
By checking what that value is on every first block of the past months, i can reconstruct how it evolves.

Ahh ok. Sorry I didn't understand. Let me see..

I'll update the internal block explorer to give you the money supply on the block you select. Give me a few hours to day or so..

No hurry, thanks!



This should do it,
https://github.com/Tranz5/bottlecaps/commit/24130f8a518652b3785e3b8a17dd941925234e5a

I'll compile a release version here later.

Give this one a shot.

https://github.com/Tranz5/bottlecaps/releases/download/2.2.0.0/BottleCaps-qt_2.2-pf1.zip

Let us know how your analysis goes once it is done.


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October 12, 2014, 06:48:53 AM
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Thanks, will do!

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