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July 14, 2013, 03:32:31 PM |
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As more time passes does XPM become less valuable because of how many are flooding wallets now? Will it ever see 1 XPM = 0.01 BTC again? And I'm not talking about if BTC is $30. I mean if BTC stays above $100. I long to hear your opinions/math. Will we ever get to higher difficulty before we've mined way too much of XPM to make a single block worth the electricity it cost to get it?
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July 14, 2013, 03:38:51 PM |
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Solar power is worthwhile, it pays for itself in a decade or less. Mining probably should end up very similar I would expect, so that mining using solar power could help you pay off your solar gear faster or help you eke out a longer useful life from your mining gear.
But i guess others would say heck with wasting your solar power on out of date mining gear, if the mining gear wouldn't pay for itself without the low power price your solar gives you then you should upgrade it so you aren't wasting your solar power on inefficient mining gear?
Since people do bother installing solar despite it taking years to pay for itself, oughtn't it make sense that people will similarly install mining gear even if mining gear will take years to pay for itself?
So maybe if you are running into power costing too much, you could consider throwing up some windmills and/or solar panels or something instead of more mining rigs?
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July 14, 2013, 03:40:26 PM |
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I cloned a lot of instance on Digital Ocean. They share the same wallet. So i just have to check one instance to get the Privkey.
But i heard a wallet only have 100 adress. What will happen when these adress run out? Do all my instance will have a separate wallet?
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July 14, 2013, 03:44:24 PM |
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I cloned a lot of instance on Digital Ocean. They share the same wallet. So i just have to check one instance to get the Privkey.
But i heard a wallet only have 100 adress. What will happen when these adress run out? Do all my instance will have a separate wallet?
You heard wrong. I just ran the getnewaddress RPC call 5000 times on bitcoind, no problems.
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July 14, 2013, 03:52:05 PM |
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Anyone using latest update from github on linux? My PPS back to normal before this thread, but my windows doesn't (10x faster)?
Yes, I am using the latest update from github on a couple of linux boxes. My PPS number went down between from ~2000 PPS (hp1) to ~1500 PPS (hp2) per box, and none of the linux boxes have found a block yet on either hp release. According to this thread, I believe the hp2 build should find more blocks even though it has a lower PPS number versus hp1. My windows was 2k after hp1. Then 2k with hp2, too. But my linux was around 5k PPS after hp1. Then hp2 it back to 1k , just like yesterday. I don't know why linux build is different from windows??? anyone has normal PPS on linux?
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July 14, 2013, 03:54:13 PM |
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This should work with almost any bitcoin related software on ubuntu.. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install python-software-properties screen python-rrdtool python-pygame python-scipy python-twisted python-twisted-web python-imaging build-essential libglib2.0-dev libglibmm-2.4-dev python-dev autoconf automake ncurses-dev sysstat gcc-mingw32 libmysql++-dev cloog-ppl build-essential automake gcc libevent-dev libmemcached-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev zlib1g-dev libjansson-dev curl memcached libtool unzip freeglut3-dev libxi-dev libxmu-dev build-essential freeglut3-dev libxi-dev libxmu-dev mpich2 libdb-dev libminiupnpc-dev libboost-all-dev libdb++-dev git uthash* libgmp3-dev Still not working. Got different error.
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A lot of pages have shown up in this thread since I went to sleep last night. Any updates on an osx build? I couldn't get it to compile with the makefile.
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July 14, 2013, 03:59:38 PM |
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This should work with almost any bitcoin related software on ubuntu.. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install python-software-properties screen python-rrdtool python-pygame python-scipy python-twisted python-twisted-web python-imaging build-essential libglib2.0-dev libglibmm-2.4-dev python-dev autoconf automake ncurses-dev sysstat gcc-mingw32 libmysql++-dev cloog-ppl build-essential automake gcc libevent-dev libmemcached-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev zlib1g-dev libjansson-dev curl memcached libtool unzip freeglut3-dev libxi-dev libxmu-dev build-essential freeglut3-dev libxi-dev libxmu-dev mpich2 libdb-dev libminiupnpc-dev libboost-all-dev libdb++-dev git uthash* libgmp3-dev Still not working. Got different error. You can use my deployment script if you like http://pastebin.com/0X9n3K5premember to make it executable: $ chmod u+x deploy.sh I am still tweaking it, but it will do a complete install on a new instance (ubuntu 12.04) Just change your rpc password afterwards. and then run; primecoin --daemon
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July 14, 2013, 04:12:26 PM |
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for some reason ec2 images while the will run, and look right, do not seem to find blocks, so you have to do ever instance from scratch....
How identical are images? Is even the entropy pool imaged, for example, so that they all pick the exact same "random" nonce and sequence of transactions and coinbase contents, thus all orphan each other since they are all mining the exact same block in a race to see which of tem mines it first, the rest being orphaned? -MarkM- I haven't seen this.
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July 14, 2013, 04:14:48 PM |
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Solar power is worthwhile, it pays for itself in a decade or less. Mining probably should end up very similar I would expect, so that mining using solar power could help you pay off your solar gear faster or help you eke out a longer useful life from your mining gear.
But i guess others would say heck with wasting your solar power on out of date mining gear, if the mining gear wouldn't pay for itself without the low power price your solar gives you then you should upgrade it so you aren't wasting your solar power on inefficient mining gear?
Since people do bother installing solar despite it taking years to pay for itself, oughtn't it make sense that people will similarly install mining gear even if mining gear will take years to pay for itself?
So maybe if you are running into power costing too much, you could consider throwing up some windmills and/or solar panels or something instead of more mining rigs?
-MarkM-
actually dust to dust I'm not sure if current gen solar does pay for itself, you have to take into account the energy used to fabricate the solar system, and dispose of it at the end of lifecylce....and that is large...also degradation of system for power capture (solar cells only work 50% after 7 years or so) not saying tech can't improve...but you always have to do a dust to dust analysis on a system
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July 14, 2013, 04:19:38 PM |
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A lot of pages have shown up in this thread since I went to sleep last night. Any updates on an osx build? I couldn't get it to compile with the makefile.
You want headless or with QT? i built the official source tree with the QT GUI for OSX. http://waspdigital.com/AltCoinQt-OSX/Primecoin-Qt-v0.1.1.dmgI'll try building this one right now, just headless first, maybe with QT later. EDIT: Just build headless of this version in OSX with no compile errors at all. You are probably missing some dependancies. What is the error you get?
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July 14, 2013, 04:21:02 PM |
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Hey guys, I'm a linux newbie, I tried to compile this and got this error:
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...just to make sure it is not because of the missing compiler... With that installed I get this error 1 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecoinomist.com%2Ferror2.png&t=665&c=lQS8Sq-mPIerAg)
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July 14, 2013, 04:21:45 PM |
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Would this miner be compatible with a getwork scheme?
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July 14, 2013, 04:27:36 PM |
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Hey guys, I'm a linux newbie, I tried to compile this and got this error:
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...just to make sure it is not because of the missing compiler... With that installed I get this error 1 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecoinomist.com%2Ferror2.png&t=665&c=lQS8Sq-mPIerAg) You really should follow the guild to compiling bitcoin from source for linux, it applies to all these clones. At this point you are missing Boost. Seriously, read this guide: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.mdIt is really short, i'm not all like RTFM but it has the steps you need and keep getting stuck on.
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July 14, 2013, 04:44:59 PM |
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A lot of pages have shown up in this thread since I went to sleep last night. Any updates on an osx build? I couldn't get it to compile with the makefile.
You want headless or with QT? i built the official source tree with the QT GUI for OSX. http://waspdigital.com/AltCoinQt-OSX/Primecoin-Qt-v0.1.1.dmgI'll try building this one right now, just headless first, maybe with QT later. EDIT: Just build headless of this version in OSX with no compile errors at all. You are probably missing some dependancies. What is the error you get? I don't remember the error. I'm about to run out to lunch now but I will try again when I return. When you said "official source tree" for the QT GUI for osx, do you mean hp2 or Sunny's official (I'm assuming the latter). I might be missing a dependency. I'll take a look. I'm also using the following for CLFAGS: CFLAGS = -mmacosx-version-min=10.7 -O3 -mfpmath=sse -march=native -mx32Edit: it just occurred to me that the mx32 might be the issue. I will try with just native and o3 later.
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July 14, 2013, 04:59:38 PM |
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How do you compile for 64bit in ubunutu
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July 14, 2013, 05:06:30 PM |
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Are you using a service provider such Amazon? If yes, how much does it cost you to run that per hour? 4.5$ per hour You inspired me to calculate a bit: If you get block at 10 mins average, block is 14.74 XPM now, you get 14.74 * 6 = 88.44 XPM/hour. if you pay 4.5$/hour it means you get 19.65 XPM for 1 US$!!! Wow! No wonder XPM exchange rate is 0.003 for BTC, you are getting 0.05896 BTC/US$, or 16.96US$ for 1BTC through XPM mining!!! Sadly but true, value of XPM should be more than 5x less, to be precise if BTC value is $95.40 now on MtGox, value of XPM should be 0.00053333 BTC. Shocking. Running to sell my poor XPM before people figure this out.
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July 14, 2013, 05:08:21 PM |
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Everybody already figured that out.
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July 14, 2013, 05:13:03 PM |
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Are you using a service provider such Amazon? If yes, how much does it cost you to run that per hour? 4.5$ per hour You inspired me to calculate a bit: If you get block at 10 mins average, block is 14.74 XPM now, you get 14.74 * 6 = 88.44 XPM/hour. if you pay 4.5$/hour it means you get 19.65 XPM for 1 US$!!! Wow! No wonder XPM exchange rate is 0.003 for BTC, you are getting 0.05896 BTC/US$, or 16.96US$ for 1BTC through XPM mining!!! Sadly but true, value of XPM should be more than 5x less, to be precise if BTC value is $95.40 now on MtGox, value of XPM should be 0.00053333 BTC. Shocking. Running to sell my poor XPM before people figure this out. wow aren't you a smart one.
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July 14, 2013, 05:13:36 PM |
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Everybody already figured that out.
I haven't! Why didn't you tell me, you dirty bastards ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) , I had to figure it out myself.
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