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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 875173 times)
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November 07, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
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so btc has exceeeded $300 as of today. if market holds hashfast wont deliver machines for another month.
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November 07, 2013, 04:10:51 PM
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so btc has exceeeded $300 as of today.

And it could be $100 tomorrow. I'm, err..., eagerly expecting some better communication from them too...

but this business about them self-mining and sending customers used equipment months later?  This is whackjob paranoid fantasizing. Doing that would certainly be legally actionable, not to mention ethically bankrupt.  Yeah, I know, there are questions about BFL's "burn in", but you've probably got your head up Alex Jones' ass if you seriously believe that HashFast would 1) do that, and 2) get away with it.
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November 07, 2013, 04:29:43 PM
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Always read the fine print.  Having the right to hold your money hostage until Dec 31st should be criminal.  Nothing should go beyond 30 days.
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November 07, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
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Hashfast - Update please.

It is now November 7th. You are now 17+ Days past your earliest projected ship date, without a clear estimate of rescheduled shipment date.

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November 07, 2013, 04:42:24 PM
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Still no announcement?

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November 07, 2013, 05:01:15 PM
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personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

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November 07, 2013, 05:01:32 PM
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i just called hashfast.
a very nice receptionist answered the phone and i asked her if she knew when the delivery date will be.
she sounded like she had no clue what the hell i was talking about lol
took down my contact info and said someone will call me back.
ya ya ya no way im getting a call back.
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November 07, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
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personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

There are a lot of people kicking themselves for not going for a KnC product, myself included.




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November 07, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
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personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are not going to get a refund of "exact amount of coins".  Prices were in USD, invoices in USD, all advertising in USD.  If you get a refund it will be in USD.  If you want that refund paid in BTC (instead of say a bank wire) it will be at the exchange rate of the day.  The only way you are getting exact coins back is if by some small miracle the exchange rate crashes back to the same one it was on the day you paid.

You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.
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November 07, 2013, 05:09:55 PM
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personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are not going to get a refund of "exact amount of coins".  Prices were in USD, invoices in USD, all advertising in USD.  If you get a refund it will be in USD.  If you want that refund paid in BTC (instead of say a bank wire) it will be at the exchange rate of the day.  The only way you are getting exact coins back is if by some small miracle the exchange rate crashes back to the same one it was on the day you paid.

You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.

Yeah, just like what happened w/ tom @ bASIC ... got back so little coins cuz rate skyrocketed.

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November 07, 2013, 05:12:10 PM
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You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.
They stated, back in days, that refund, if they where to happen, would be in BTC.
Just check their post history.

Not that i trust them, either.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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November 07, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
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Still no update from them?  Seems like a really simple thing to do.... They can't even get their announcements on time.
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November 07, 2013, 05:14:45 PM
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Still no update from them?  Seems like a really simple thing to do.... They can't even get their announcements on time.
Since that they will piss on the money you spent with that announcement, they have to do the things right. They had 15 days to think on what to write on this announcement, tough.

My prediction:
"no, we won't ship middle november (insert random excuse here)"
"we are still confident that our customers will get their money back (because of btc going to the moon)"
"remember that the MPP is there because we want you to succeed"
"again, our customers will probably have a return even before the MPP kicks in"

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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November 07, 2013, 05:15:33 PM
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This is what you get if you ask about shipping dates, pcbs  cases and chips photos and many more explanations. Thedy do not even read our messages:
We have received your email and we will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks,

And now where is cyperdoc and many other HF employs giving us updates in the forum ?

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November 07, 2013, 05:18:51 PM
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Still no update from them?  Seems like a really simple thing to do.... They can't even get their announcements on time.
Since that they will piss on the money you spent with that announcement, they have to do the things right. They had 15 days to think on what to write on this announcement, tough.

My prediction:
"no, we won't ship middle november (insert random excuse here)"
"we are still confident that our customers will get their money back (because of btc going to the moon)"
"remember that the MPP is there because we want you to succeed"
"again, our customers will probably have a return even before the MPP kicks in"

Don't get me wrong, I didn't spend a dime on Hashfash (for a number of reasons), I am just trying to size up the competition and forecast the value of my KNC device (sell vs mine).
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November 07, 2013, 05:19:10 PM
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You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.
They stated, back in days, that refund, if they where to happen, would be in BTC.
Just check their post history.

is it quoted or still deleted?

they should seriously think about how to compensate their investors! the best would be free hardware if they don't want to give back the coins.
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November 07, 2013, 05:19:27 PM
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You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.
They stated, back in days, that refund, if they where to happen, would be in BTC.
Just check their post history.

Not that i trust them, either.

In BTC doesn't mean the BTC amount.  It likely means they intend to use Bitpay or some other service to automate refunds.
I would love to be wrong but counting on anything more than 100% USD refund is a fantasy.

I mean lets look at this logically.  You rant about how they used our money to fund the NRE.  How did they fund that in BTC?  How did they purchase masks in BTC?  How did they buy a batch of wafers in BTC?  How did they contract an packaging house and assemby house in BTC?

The simple answer is they didn't.  When you paid x BTC using Bitpay, Bitpay converted it into y USD and deposited into HashFast bank account.
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November 07, 2013, 05:28:48 PM
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personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

There are a lot of people kicking themselves for not going for a KnC product, myself included.

The fact that KnC let you use credit card via paypal (and of course use 0% interest rates for those that understand time value of money) made it a no brainer..  it allowed one to use free money (for a year on intro rate deals) to indirectly buy BTC via the miners with no fees anywhere (no exchange fee, no bank wire fee, etc)

by using BTC in hand (or cash in hand) you are actually taking a gamble that bitcoin WONT increase in value until you make your BTC back..  because if it does, you lose in time value of money since now you have to wait until you get back to where you were

Now do you all understand why Wall Street always uses other people's money??

If BTC crashed terribly I would also have the extra possibility to just tell the credit card company to pound sand and not pay them ..  hell I could still do that if I wanted to trash my credit and pocket all the ROI


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November 07, 2013, 05:32:20 PM
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You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.
They stated, back in days, that refund, if they where to happen, would be in BTC.
Just check their post history.

Not that i trust them, either.

In BTC doesn't mean the BTC amount.  It likely means they intend to use Bitpay or some other service to automate refunds.
I would love to be wrong but counting on anything more than 100% USD refund is a fantasy.

I mean lets look at this logically.  You rant about how they used our money to fund the NRE.  How did they fund that in BTC?  How did they purchase masks in BTC?  How did they buy a batch of wafers in BTC?  How did they contract an packaging house and assemby house in BTC?

The simple answer is they didn't.  When you paid x BTC using Bitpay, Bitpay converted it into y USD and deposited into HashFast bank account.
I should have said "of the btc amount used when purchasing the product". I'm quite sure that it was already quoted at the time. I'm gonna look for it.
Anyway, yes, you are right. There is no way that is gonna happen.
I keep thinking that either we get a shipment before the 31 of Dec, or we get nothing (but their IP).

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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November 07, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
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personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

There are a lot of people kicking themselves for not going for a KnC product, myself included.

+1 i'm one of them too ...  Undecided

i think i choose the bad horse with Hashfast  Cry
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