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July 01, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
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A statement from Black Arrow regarding their promise to ship on February 24th 2014:


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We've started the design in June. The only difference between us and our competitors is that we do not give unrealistic time frames which we know we cannot meet.

We are confident that we will deliver sooner but we do not make promises that we might not be able to fulfill.


It's now July 2014 and the X3 design is still not complete:

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Following a thorough reviewing, the X-3 backplane has been put in production. The first batch will be delivered this weekend. We have several designs to our disposal and we have to decide which one was the best choice. We will be able to inform our customers on the X-3 shipping schedule within a few days.

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-- Bitcoin Miners progress update - 27th of June 2014


4 months past the stated shipping date and this thing is still on the drawing board?

Oh, and by-the-way "a few days" have already passed.

Shipping next week? lol

 

turns out, not everyone can manage a project out there... Sad

I mean, delays in all kinds of projects, IT or otherwise, is nothing new; but there's a certain line that should not be crossed, at least not in a client-facing context like here with MS and their less-than-wonderful Chinese partners over there.

If they do (cross that line, that is), they need to compensate accordingly -- and I do not mean any measly 24hr or 1wk hosted "compensation" plans but throwing in a FREE 2nd machine and/or making true order cancellation offers with a full refund.

"Buy one and get one free" -- others are doing exactly that, and in light of recent performance (or lack of it) MS should do this as well!

an 100% compensation aint gonna cut it..

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1123-miner-comparison-for-compensation-resons/#entry12091
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July 02, 2014, 01:09:32 AM
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The best thing out of this whole Black Arrow debacle is being introduced to Miner Source.  They are a good company.

+1, they did right by me for sure.
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July 02, 2014, 01:28:40 AM
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Black Arrow Software is in the top 3 shit companies in Bitcoin world

At this point, best case scenario they're a BFL, worst case scenario they're a Hashfast. Unfortunately supposedly Josh's trolling generated more orders which allowed the BFL Ponzi to slightly perform eventually, in this case BA's combativeness and trolling can't work because it just makes them look like losers compared to a few competitors now. I use the term "competitors" very loosely because those other companies have actually produced a product.

Personally I think they are the worst. They had a good marketing message in the beginning and used it to pull one over on people who had been burned elsewhere. They knew what could happen and charged forward anyway - be that incompetency or scaming - either way they earn the #1 place for worst BTC company in my book. At least BFL shipped first generation jalapeno miners to me in time to more than break even with them in fiat, which is what I paid for them (yeah buying BTC with my fiat would have been much better). After that everyone who bothered to do research knew the risk they were taking making an order with BFL's reputation. Hashfast smelled like a company who had no idea what they were getting into from the beginning.

has not sold out
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July 02, 2014, 02:24:22 AM
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I really wonder what the issue is with the rest of the X1 group 1 and group 2 units.
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July 02, 2014, 02:56:17 AM
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I really wonder what the issue is with the rest of the X1 group 1 and group 2 units.

They probably had a breakthrough with the LCD so they're postponing delivery to install them.

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July 02, 2014, 08:35:58 AM
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Where is my hosting? Angry
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July 02, 2014, 03:44:21 PM
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Anyone that has a refund out with these people and would like to share the cost of an attorney, let me know.

If you have already have contacted me, I've got your info already, and will let you know when I have a short list of attorneys.

I'm looking for a lawyer in Shenzhen, have contacted a couple, and will get this process moving.



Dependance on Costs I might be interested
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July 02, 2014, 04:22:48 PM
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+1
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July 02, 2014, 06:54:58 PM
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Wow really quiet today! Everyone burnt out on the hate parade? I got plenty of bile to go round, come on slackers!

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July 02, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
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Wow really quiet today! Everyone burnt out on the hate parade? I got plenty of bile to go round, come on slackers!
that cheered me up  Grin Thanks

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July 02, 2014, 07:12:30 PM
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Wow really quiet today! Everyone burnt out on the hate parade? I got plenty of bile to go round, come on slackers!

silence before the storm
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July 02, 2014, 07:13:16 PM
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Is that a perfect storm Smiley

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July 02, 2014, 09:14:33 PM
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Wow really quiet today! Everyone burnt out on the hate parade? I got plenty of bile to go round, come on slackers!

I think most of the Minersource customers blew their loads on Ant S3s, BTCGarden blades, Dragons, RK boxes, Gridseed blades, zeus blizzards, etc with their refund money.

No more pent up jizz for BA, we gots tracking #s and delivery dates to follow.   Grin

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July 02, 2014, 09:30:57 PM
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Wow really quiet today! Everyone burnt out on the hate parade? I got plenty of bile to go round, come on slackers!

I think most of the Minersource customers blew their loads on Ant S3s, BTCGarden blades, Dragons, RK boxes, Gridseed blades, zeus blizzards, etc with their refund money.

No more pent up jizz for BA, we gots tracking #s and delivery dates to follow.   ;D

+1

well put :)))

So let's hope that this gives MS the room to breathe they need to (a) process the refunds queue ASAP or (b) even better, have this train-wreck-in-progress sorted out some way...?

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July 02, 2014, 11:07:39 PM
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I have 5 more x1 from MS I am waiting on. I am hoping BA does something good to reward my loyalty Smiley
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July 03, 2014, 12:03:13 AM
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according to the last official estimates shipping normally should have started this week :/
the first wave should emerge from MS so i hope they have good news to share with us specially for X3s holders it starts to become cumbersome

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July 03, 2014, 12:23:33 AM
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If they had good news they would have posted it already.  Bobsag has gone silent because he doesn't want to keep feeding BA's lies to his customers and I can't blame him for that.  It's hard to believe things can get any worse but their silence tells me it's about to.

according to the last official estimates shipping normally should have started this week :/
the first wave should emerge from MS so i hope they have good news to share with us specially for X3s holders it starts to become cumbersome
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July 03, 2014, 12:43:38 AM
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Dear Customers,

We are happy to let you know that we've just solved the SPI issues.

We should be able to deliver all X3s by the end of the month.

Any update on this?

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Dear Customers,

We are happy to let you know that we've just solved the SPI issues.

We should be able to deliver all X3s by the end of the month.

Any update on this?

+1

the worst part is a lot of people here have never doubted them cuz BA and MS themselves know that they are legit that is why they remain zen despite circumstances :/ i would'nt do an analysis on ROI just because not only the hashrate and difficulty either XBT price which are the basic parameters for everyone to calculate an income but each has its plans and expectations and everyone should respect the work and the participation of the third party and vice versa... i still believe

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July 03, 2014, 02:32:11 AM
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Bitcoin Miners progress update – 29 May 2014
Bitcoin Miners progress update – 06 June 2014
Bitcoin Miners progress update – 13 June 2014
Bitcoin Miners progress update - 20 June 2014
Bitcoin Miners progress update - 27th of June 2014
and nextweek will be "NEXT WEEK"

Bitcoin Miners progress update - 04 July 2014

I bet 1BTC that tomorrow 04 July 2014 BA will have a news for their "NEXT WEEK".
bla... all x1 currently shipping... more x1 will be ship "next week".... problem has been solved... no x1/x3 hashing on our office
oh shit, F**K BA. We do not hear that info, WE NEED TRACKING
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