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Author Topic: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread  (Read 550438 times)
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March 09, 2014, 08:08:55 PM
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will there be a new release of the client, mine won't update.
What command did you use?

- Try the grcrestarter command
- Try deleting your program directory
- Install the MSI
- Repair the MSI

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March 09, 2014, 09:19:34 PM
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Mandatory Upgrade:
Version 2.0.0.0/9.0:

- Incremented network protocol version to 72000
- Removed cpuminer payment system

To upgrade if you are in safe mode:

Go to the desktop and copy a shortcut of "c:\program files (x86)\gridcoin\grcrestarter.exe" to your desktop.
Edit the shortcut, rename it "Upgrade GRC", and modify the Target textbox to:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin\GRCRestarter.exe" upgrade

If you do not sync to block 76785+, rebuild the block chain.

Do a get getinfo to ensure protocol version is 72000.


GRC has been frozen on Poloniex for some time now--PM'd you about a compile error.

Just wanted to let people know that the exchange and the wallet are in balance, and the market is only frozen until I can get the wallet compiled.

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March 09, 2014, 11:40:37 PM
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Hey,

Anyone able to provide information on scrypt-sleep functionality?
I've searched on here and cryptocointalk forums to no avail.

Cheers Smiley
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March 10, 2014, 12:13:51 AM
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We need to work on Gridcoin marketing.  Here's a tweet I wrote for the official twitter or anyone else generous enough to put up the gridcoins.  If people donate gridcoins to me I will host the giveaway.

Example tweet:


"Giving away 1000 Gridcoins! To enter

1) Retweet
2) Make the Gridcoin logo your profile pic

Winner picked March 20"
*attach the picture of the new Gridcoin logo here


I remember Earthcoin doing this and it created A LOT of buzz.  
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March 10, 2014, 12:20:09 AM
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Hey,

Anyone able to provide information on scrypt-sleep functionality?
I've searched on here and cryptocointalk forums to no avail.

Cheers Smiley

The general idea is that the better your leader board position (ie the more BOINC credits contributed), the more time you are allowed to mine with your GPU.  If your sleep level (leader board position) isn't high enough for the network sleep level, your GPU takes a break from mining and is freed up to run BOINC work, like the Milky Way project.  The network sleep level cycles.
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March 10, 2014, 12:23:07 AM
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Exchanges: Please halt withdrawals while we track down all GRC addresses with coinbase blocks and missing security information

I contacted C-cex through the support e-mail. Skype, no answer.

Not a problem there. The dang thing doesnt even WORK on or exchange - without standard commands we cannot do a thing anyway.

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March 10, 2014, 01:22:19 AM
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Hey,

Anyone able to provide information on scrypt-sleep functionality?
I've searched on here and cryptocointalk forums to no avail.

Cheers Smiley

The general idea is that the better your leader board position (ie the more BOINC credits contributed), the more time you are allowed to mine with your GPU.  If your sleep level (leader board position) isn't high enough for the network sleep level, your GPU takes a break from mining and is freed up to run BOINC work, like the Milky Way project.  The network sleep level cycles.

So it's only based on leaderboard position?
I was under the impression that the more boinc points you contributed the harder it would be for others. Is there more documentation on this scrypt sleep feature?
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March 10, 2014, 02:02:50 AM
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how come that the mining difficulty dropped a lot?

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March 10, 2014, 02:50:34 AM
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After the attempted hack on the blockchain everyone is re synching now so very few people mining.

how come that the mining difficulty dropped a lot?
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March 10, 2014, 03:06:13 AM
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If you are having problem syncing please download the blockchain from here: http://www.gridcoin.us/images/appdata.zip
extract this zip into your appdata/roaming/gridcoin folder and you should be good to go.
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March 10, 2014, 04:57:59 AM
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un able to sync with the block chain network has there been an update to the wallet not on op. iv got your ^^^^^ block data im now 2hrs behind but still no sync

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March 10, 2014, 06:45:37 AM
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un able to sync with the block chain network has there been an update to the wallet not on op. iv got your ^^^^^ block data im now 2hrs behind but still no sync

in wallet go to Help -> Debug window -> type upgrade and it will upgrade your wallet.

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March 10, 2014, 09:59:18 AM
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March 10, 2014, 10:58:50 AM
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Just looking for a confirmation at this point.  As of the v2.0.0.2 Update, if I don't have a GPU capable of being used in CGMiner, I can no longer mine GRC?  And, if that's the case, is this a permanent condition going forward?
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March 10, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
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March 10, 2014, 12:35:45 PM
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You can do pool mining for now pool.gridcoin.us or you can wait till the cpu mining is upgraded to make some security upgrades.

Just looking for a confirmation at this point.  As of the v2.0.0.2 Update, if I don't have a GPU capable of being used in CGMiner, I can no longer mine GRC?  And, if that's the case, is this a permanent condition going forward?
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March 10, 2014, 01:18:58 PM
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Does this have a linux version? I mean linux native, not some wine stuff. I donwloaded a big chunk of code from git repo just to find out that it is a wine install mostly.

It is a nice idea to bind coin mining to boinc... but without a native linux application it is a no-go, IMHO

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March 10, 2014, 01:30:02 PM
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Does this have a linux version? I mean linux native, not some wine stuff. I donwloaded a big chunk of code from git repo just to find out that it is a wine install mostly.

It is a nice idea to bind coin mining to boinc... but without a native linux application it is a no-go, IMHO




For everyone elses benefit and to clarify for Zulzedd and heretolearn:  I am going to explain the Linux dilemma in historical terms, current status, and the abstracted wine architecture so you may understand all sides without drawing false conclusions.

1) Regarding slow development and launching without Linux: We launched October 17th 2013.  At that time, I already had two Indian programmers working for me full time (out of my pocket), and they were not cheap, and their task was to finish the equivalent of what I did in Windows in Linux and Mac.  By the end of the year, what I received was not enterprise quality or compatible enough with the boinchash security portion to go live.  I hired a 3rd Linux dev, to fix the problems.  This attempt was much better, some of the code was compatible, but he took a cryptographic approach inside c++ that would expose the class to fraud.  I was not about to compromise security, so I had some disagreements and he asked me to spend $5000 to fix the problem.  I had some issues spending more for a pie in the sky promise and he dissapeared.  To add to the drama, I had some specific requirements to maintain security as far as the chosen classes, interfaces between windows and Linux that had to be met.  When I consolidated the code review, the code was rewritten Microsoft code in c++ that had certain flaws that hackers can use to attack us.
    On the windows side, we have our cpuminer integrated into our gvm.  We also have the ability to verify credits from the boinc API.  If we were to port the Russian version, we would no longer have a GVM and I did not want to compromise security.  So in essence, we burned through money and time and ended up at Christmas time, when I took over the Linux side.  In the next 60 days, I ported the necessary underlying regsvr32, security descriptors, GVM, and boinchash compatibility to Linux.  Wine is required to run my version, but security is maintained.  In my humble opinion 60 days was a relatively short and aggressive timeline and put us 90% of the way back on schedule to release a Linux and mac version.  I also hired two architects from Odesk who also costed me substantial money and that code is also useless as it is not compatible.  The requirements are relatively complicated.  Heretolearn assumes the client must be native but does not understand the risk involved.
2) Regarding Wine:  I want to point out, we are NOT emulating windows by running gridcoin-qt in wine.  The client is being re-written with a compatibility layer between Microsoft c#.net and Linux in a way that the functions can be executed on any platform; Linux;mac & wine.  Before we go into Why that is the case, the point is we have 100 megs of source code to do much higher level operations dealing with SQL, the sql ledger, the api verification, and the boinc hash, the cpu miner beacons, etc.  If we were to maintain 3 codebases:  We would need 3 Rob H's full time to debug and maintain the code over the long term.  But even simpler than that, I have chosen 1 codebase so that we can move on to polishing gridcoin for the end user.  If we can maintain one code base, it will be a magnitude better for Gridcoin in the long term, as the plans are not to create a simple coin that can send money and mine, the plan is to create a coin that can do confirms, help humanity, have internal voting for our future foundation, sql ledger, all kinds of features other coins don't have.  And you are not living in the current state of reality if you think you can write all of that 3 times, do 3 releases, support 3 versions "easily".  It is NOT the case.  Maintaining software takes hundreds of hours per year.  Think of the 80%/20% rule for new development and maintenance.

Next:  Installing wine on your Linux or Mac system is a single command: apt-get install wine
  It's a dependency for gridcoin-qt; it has nothing to do with "wanting" to install wine.  We could add it to the installer!
 Wine is not an emulator.  So, the code running on Linux is running natively. 

So, please get it out of your head that this is not the way to go, is not native code, and that we are slacking, because all of these things are false.

I hope I have justified the reason that wine will work:  When features are added to Gridcoin in the future we will run a deploy script and all 3 versions of the client will have an updated installer with a compatible version that runs on all platforms.  The version inside "about" will be the same, and therefore we will support one codebase.

Regarding downsides with running Wine related to performance:  There ARE NO DOWNSIDES.  Read the wine FAQ if you don't believe me.  The code is running natively.


Cheers,
Rob Halford


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March 10, 2014, 01:33:52 PM
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Hope this helps  Smiley

You should have just said "No, there is no native linux application", but thanks. I'll pass -- no linux is a showstopper for me and running wine is not a solution.

And just BTW -- the excuse "I didn't have enough money to hire linux programmers" is not really an excuse. If we are talking about opensource and if the author has a really original idea, I don't see the need of such "excuses".

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March 10, 2014, 01:37:48 PM
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Hope this helps  Smiley

You should have just said "No, there is no native linux application", but thanks. I'll pass -- no linux is a showstopper for me and running wine is not a solution.

I agree, wine is a lazy solution. Imo, this crypto should still be in beta testing and only using the testnet until it's complete.
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