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[abel1337]

Buddy the gig is up.  I'm just waiting to get paid.

CloudbetscamsDOTCOM just told me site is going back up today.  He also said this isn't going to stop even if Efxes gets paid.  Cloudbet's history of scamming will be there for the world to see on the first page of google.  It's over for you guys.

Let me know when you want my wallet address to refund my deposits.

I appreciate your efforts but do you think it will be worth in the end ? Even if you post the full history of cloudbet scam all over the internet, they may still not return your money. You can only post this all over the internet, discourage people from using the site or blackmail them but sadly you cannot sue them in the court and cannot force them to pay you.

I agree with this, Cloudbet reputation is what the victim is holding to. There are also many scam accusations about Cloudbet rolling over the internet and in this forum. But who knows, Cloudbet has resolved an issue like this before but the refund may take up months before Cloudbet gives it back to the victim.

Here's the solved issue about cloudbet before (https://archive.is/IE1uy)

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[efxes]

Hey all, this is really affecting my life.  I miss playing music, making websites, doing things I love doing.  I miss having a bankroll- unfortunately I sent that bankroll to Cloudbet and they chose option C: to keep my entire bankroll and confiscate it.

I need a serious break from this, I'm hoping when I come back it will all be resolved.  No, I don't want cloudbet sharing my information publicly.  No i don't want to keep going over details.  

I will be back in one week from today.  I'm hoping this gets resolved by then and cloudbet will send me back 67 BCH and -.26 BTC.  I might reveal who i am in the poker/crypto community by then anyways.  Some private friends know but they're not following the case too closely at this point I think.

This is not winnings.  This was my bankroll, my liferoll, my savings.  I need you guys to please defend me when people try and smear me and make me look small.  I don't know why they do it, but they do.  They might be affiliated with site or might just like seeing winning gamblers lose out somehow.  I dont know, but I"ve worked hard and for decades to be a winning gambler in some sports.  

The money is a lot of money, and I sent it off in good faith.  I need it back.  I will let things settle and I hope that Cloudbet does the right thing.


I also want to take the time to thank everyone in the community for pulling for me and doing the right thing in making sure Cloudbet isn't getting as many deposits while this is going on.  I don't want to see other people in the same situation as me.  It is not right, and Cloudbet should be ashamed of themselves.

Be well... I am rejuvenating my mind body and spirit and will be back in full force soon.  Maybe I will reveal my poker identity then and some people will recognize me from way back.

note: also scratch the thing i said about letting SBRforum mediate ANYTHING.  I think they only care about the sportsbooks over there.  That's where they make their money.  I don't think I want that either.  let's see what happens if I just let Cloudbet decide if they want to do the right thing for the good of the community and the trust of the players.  Please don't stop pressing them either.  I appreciate you all a lot and have for many years.

[deadley]

@efxex you are breaking forums rules regularly by posting/spamming continuously on same thread without getting reply of others, you are really lucky, you did not got banned for this. So better avoid this. I can understand your frustration but rules for everyone.

[ultrloa]

@efxex you are breaking forums rules regularly by posting/spamming continuously on same thread without getting reply of others, you are really lucky, you did not got banned for this. So better avoid this. I can understand your frustration but rules for everyone.

I agree with this there is a rule regarding on that and your efxes issue will be wasted if he will be banned for spamming so better he minimize the activity so that he can update the users here day by day about his issue. It's so sad to see this still happening and seems cloudbet is ready to ruin their reputation since they still not giving back his deposit up till now.

[efxes]

Confession:
OK guys, this is me coming clean.  I'm an honest person and this whole case and the money lost has been eating me up inside.  I haven't been honest about multiple things so it's time to come clean.  I don't agree with freerolling a winning account's last deposits, and as a human being I can justify so many things and rationalize so many things in my head.  But I can't stay in a lie, I am a free spirited musician and enjoy just living a peaceful life.  So I have to confess multiple things to you guys, and I wish I did this from the start- I was desperate to get my money back and didn't know if I could get it back any other way.  Money doesn't come easy to me.


1.  i have never been to Mexico in my life.  I have been playing out of San Francisco area the whole time through VPN.
2.  I'm a well-known poker player in the bitcoin community that goes by tennisCHAMP or tennis known as an all out degen.  Used to be dice, but for the longest time it's been sports.  I quit casino gambling a long time ago and I figured out how to pretty consistently win at tennis betting at the higher levels like ATP and WTA and Grand Slam.  I've won SWC Poker BigBTC and streaming challenges for thousands in bitcoin , and I've been into bitcoin more than anything ever since I arrived there.  I used to vlog a bit and I was driving full time Uber for years here in SF.  $15,000 is a fortune to me and it scares me how much I was willing to lie about in order to get paid (even if I feel it's rightly mine, lying just isn't me and I couldn't really keep going with this without unravelling).

3.  I had an account a couple years ago on Cloudbet and they banned me for being a USA IP with no money in the account one day they just said we don't accept you, so I started VPN'ing in after a couple years off the site.  I had lost so many bitcoins it was unbelievable. 

4.  I sent in real documents from USA, thinking they'd just give me my money back and ban me from the site.  That was not the case, so I started panicking and sent them in the fake note and stuff about Mexico.  This really crossed my threshold for how far I was willing to go and I lost it after I sent in the utility bill with the changed address- I don't like dealing with fake documents and doing this stuff. 


5.  The reality is that as I mentioned, I have been a tennis teacher and an Uber driver and a starving musician for years.  A year and a half ago my Nissan Leaf got hit and I got an insurance check for $8,000 which I ran up to $150,000 in bitcoin on Nitrogen Sports within a few days betting tennis.  I bet like $5,000 on Fabio Fognini to beat Nadal in the semi's of Monte Carlo and he hit straight sets and moneyline and I won like $75,000.. Nitrogen Sports has since severely limited my 2001 account (one of the first to register to Nitrogen Sports through Bitcointalk).  I won and lost all that money within only 3 days, never even really cashing out to USD and a week later that money would have been worth $450,000.  I've not had a day go by where I don't think about the money I missed out on every hour, especially being so job skill-less and only really having played poker and bet sports as a means of possibly some day making good money (though I do make websites and am getting better at that).  When I just ran up $1,300 into $40,000 in a week at Cloudbet, constantly withdrawing in order to secure all the funds and re-depositing, I thought I'd never look back again.  I was doing quite well managing but when I had the $15,000 stolen from Cloudbet, I went on tilt and lost the remaining $15,000 and am now back to square one as always have been my entire 34 years of existence.

6.  I am cloudbetscamsDOTCOM on bitcointalk and the person who put up cloudbetscams.com after being advised by people who dealt with the 330btc scam case from Cloudbet and other people in the poker community who said my only real recourse is to go out Cloudbet from all angles in order to hope to get their attention and get paid.  The more shady stuff I uncovered, the more enraged I got and I really want people to know not to deposit to this site because of these things.  I don't know what's going to happen with the site but I need to come completely clean.





Now:
Cloudbet, I will give you permission to post everything you want about me.  I am well known as 'tennis' from SWC Poker and in the bitcoin community.  Some people will recognize me if they are OG poker players.  So I'm not really fearing anything.  I feel awful about lying, not to you guys but to myself (and also to you guys).  So I'm coming clean mostly because I live such a clean life free of doing bad stuff, I have so many interests and hobbies, degenerate sports betting is jsut one of them.  Though I'm becoming massively sharp at betting tennis I will admit- every other sport I lose loads at.  And I don't really even beat poker any more, though I do have an occasional God run on stream with people cheering me on at SWC poker.

Cloudbet:  feel free to post the information you need to the public about my USA IP's, as I admit I have never even been to Mexico in my life.  I was born in Brazil and it's always been a dream to get back there, but I haven't done much traveling except for jazz band tours and stuff all over Europe having played with BB King and stuff in Switzerland in a fluke but was so fun, I'm a professional saxophonist and beat maker. 

You can post the transaction histories to clear that up, Idunno about posting my home IP but you can feel free to post the general locations all that to show that i was in the USA.



Beyond that, I still feel that I should be paid.  I hope I am not upsetting people and I should have been forthright from the start.  Money can truly bring out the worst in people, and it did in me.  I wanted to say anything just to get paid because I thought I was justified.  I felt like the angles and laws surrounding them preying on me for the TOS was not fair.  Waiting for me to deposit a large sum, I was obviously trying to leave a dent in their book- so they played the we can actually legally steal this money back. 

But this is about the confession and the go ahead to release all the information.  Like I said, I used to vlog as 'tennis' in the bitcoin community documenting my uber driving and saxophone playing and music making.  Only a few people saw those but in general i'm not scared of a little fame or notoriety.  I still feel I'm owed the deposits on the account and I hope that the community will agree with me on that.  It's not fair to freeroll USA players so in my mind I justified lying to everyone, even if not so well on purpose, about being in "mexico" and stuff. 


I'm here to answer any questions all week now that I'm being honest.  The monkey is off my back. 

I apologize to everyone.  To SBR, to Twoplustwo, to Bitcointalk.  It was not right for me to say wahtever i needed to say in order to try and get the money back.  I still feel that I should be owed every penny.  It's not fair.



I'm here to answer any and all questions you have and giving Cloudbet the go ahead to release whatever they need to the public about why I shouldn't be due my deposits back.  I still feel that I am owed them.

[donsifon]

Hi efxes,

Very sad you history and i know what you feeling, you know what happen when you win big in online shitty sportsbooks, they will try to find any excuse to not pay you and then also some stupid guys around this forum telling you that you are scammer and blablabla... supporting 100% the scammer sportsbook, they talk shit to you because they are not in your situation.

Its disgusting what cloudbet did to you, its so much money but know you show to everybody what kind of scammers they are.

I just wish you good luck and hope you get you moneyback but i doubt they will change.... just imagine how much money they are confiscating or blocking accounts with money and they do not know about this forum or they cant find help.

Keep fighting, and wish you the best too.

Confession:
OK guys, this is me coming clean.  I'm an honest person and this whole case and the money lost has been eating me up inside.  I haven't been honest about multiple things so it's time to come clean.  I don't agree with freerolling a winning account's last deposits, and as a human being I can justify so many things and rationalize so many things in my head.  But I can't stay in a lie, I am a free spirited musician and enjoy just living a peaceful life.  So I have to confess multiple things to you guys, and I wish I did this from the start- I was desperate to get my money back and didn't know if I could get it back any other way.  Money doesn't come easy to me.


1.  i have never been to Mexico in my life.  I have been playing out of San Francisco area the whole time through VPN.
2.  I'm a well-known poker player in the bitcoin community that goes by tennisCHAMP or tennis known as an all out degen.  Used to be dice, but for the longest time it's been sports.  I quit casino gambling a long time ago and I figured out how to pretty consistently win at tennis betting at the higher levels like ATP and WTA and Grand Slam.  I've won SWC Poker BigBTC and streaming challenges for thousands in bitcoin , and I've been into bitcoin more than anything ever since I arrived there.  I used to vlog a bit and I was driving full time Uber for years here in SF.  $15,000 is a fortune to me and it scares me how much I was willing to lie about in order to get paid (even if I feel it's rightly mine, lying just isn't me and I couldn't really keep going with this without unravelling).

3.  I had an account a couple years ago on Cloudbet and they banned me for being a USA IP with no money in the account one day they just said we don't accept you, so I started VPN'ing in after a couple years off the site.  I had lost so many bitcoins it was unbelievable. 

4.  I sent in real documents from USA, thinking they'd just give me my money back and ban me from the site.  That was not the case, so I started panicking and sent them in the fake note and stuff about Mexico.  This really crossed my threshold for how far I was willing to go and I lost it after I sent in the utility bill with the changed address- I don't like dealing with fake documents and doing this stuff. 


5.  The reality is that as I mentioned, I have been a tennis teacher and an Uber driver and a starving musician for years.  A year and a half ago my Nissan Leaf got hit and I got an insurance check for $8,000 which I ran up to $150,000 in bitcoin on Nitrogen Sports within a few days betting tennis.  I bet like $5,000 on Fabio Fognini to beat Nadal in the semi's of Monte Carlo and he hit straight sets and moneyline and I won like $75,000.. Nitrogen Sports has since severely limited my 2001 account (one of the first to register to Nitrogen Sports through Bitcointalk).  I won and lost all that money within only 3 days, never even really cashing out to USD and a week later that money would have been worth $450,000.  I've not had a day go by where I don't think about the money I missed out on every hour, especially being so job skill-less and only really having played poker and bet sports as a means of possibly some day making good money (though I do make websites and am getting better at that).  When I just ran up $1,300 into $40,000 in a week at Cloudbet, constantly withdrawing in order to secure all the funds and re-depositing, I thought I'd never look back again.  I was doing quite well managing but when I had the $15,000 stolen from Cloudbet, I went on tilt and lost the remaining $15,000 and am now back to square one as always have been my entire 34 years of existence.

6.  I am cloudbetscamsDOTCOM on bitcointalk and the person who put up cloudbetscams.com after being advised by people who dealt with the 330btc scam case from Cloudbet and other people in the poker community who said my only real recourse is to go out Cloudbet from all angles in order to hope to get their attention and get paid.  The more shady stuff I uncovered, the more enraged I got and I really want people to know not to deposit to this site because of these things.  I don't know what's going to happen with the site but I need to come completely clean.





Now:
Cloudbet, I will give you permission to post everything you want about me.  I am well known as 'tennis' from SWC Poker and in the bitcoin community.  Some people will recognize me if they are OG poker players.  So I'm not really fearing anything.  I feel awful about lying, not to you guys but to myself (and also to you guys).  So I'm coming clean mostly because I live such a clean life free of doing bad stuff, I have so many interests and hobbies, degenerate sports betting is jsut one of them.  Though I'm becoming massively sharp at betting tennis I will admit- every other sport I lose loads at.  And I don't really even beat poker any more, though I do have an occasional God run on stream with people cheering me on at SWC poker.

Cloudbet:  feel free to post the information you need to the public about my USA IP's, as I admit I have never even been to Mexico in my life.  I was born in Brazil and it's always been a dream to get back there, but I haven't done much traveling except for jazz band tours and stuff all over Europe having played with BB King and stuff in Switzerland in a fluke but was so fun, I'm a professional saxophonist and beat maker. 

You can post the transaction histories to clear that up, Idunno about posting my home IP but you can feel free to post the general locations all that to show that i was in the USA.



Beyond that, I still feel that I should be paid.  I hope I am not upsetting people and I should have been forthright from the start.  Money can truly bring out the worst in people, and it did in me.  I wanted to say anything just to get paid because I thought I was justified.  I felt like the angles and laws surrounding them preying on me for the TOS was not fair.  Waiting for me to deposit a large sum, I was obviously trying to leave a dent in their book- so they played the we can actually legally steal this money back. 

But this is about the confession and the go ahead to release all the information.  Like I said, I used to vlog as 'tennis' in the bitcoin community documenting my uber driving and saxophone playing and music making.  Only a few people saw those but in general i'm not scared of a little fame or notoriety.  I still feel I'm owed the deposits on the account and I hope that the community will agree with me on that.  It's not fair to freeroll USA players so in my mind I justified lying to everyone, even if not so well on purpose, about being in "mexico" and stuff. 


I'm here to answer any questions all week now that I'm being honest.  The monkey is off my back. 

I apologize to everyone.  To SBR, to Twoplustwo, to Bitcointalk.  It was not right for me to say wahtever i needed to say in order to try and get the money back.  I still feel that I should be owed every penny.  It's not fair.



I'm here to answer any and all questions you have and giving Cloudbet the go ahead to release whatever they need to the public about why I shouldn't be due my deposits back.  I still feel that I am owed them.

[Flagship11]

Confession: Im a lying degenerate

[efxes]

I led everyone astray and I do apologize I feel like really bad about that.

My head is blown from losing this $15,000.  Losing this $15,000 has meant the world to me.  The last remaining 67 BCH was supposed to have -.26 btc taken out of it, but they couldn't figure it out so they decided to rob me is how I feel.

Don't know how you would feel about it.  Tell me your feelings.

EDIT:  from now on you can call me tennis if you want

[efxes]

"Twitch bounties are prizes awarded for achieving certain goals while streaming SwC Poker on Twitch. The qualification requirements and award amounts vary for each bitcoin poker bounty."
https://swcpoker.eu/post/twitch-bounty-destruction-tennis-makes-a-deep-run-that-pays-big




https://swcpoker.eu/post/twitch-bounties-announced

[TwitchySeal]

Hi all -

Firstly, please accept our apologies for the delay in response and thank you to all - especially the senior members of the community - for your patience while we collated all of the relevant facts so that we could respond extremely accurately.

A comment on @efxes's case from Cloudbet.

1. Cloudbet does not accept players from USA. If USA players attempt to create an account, they see a clear message that their jurisdiction is prohibited.

2. If a player is found to be circumventing our automated checks and connects from a prohibited jurisdiction (such as USA), their account is immediately frozen pending an investigation. In this case, the player in question knowingly and deliberately circumvented our location checks, and was discovered and confirmed to be located in USA. They provided both ID and address proof from USA and also repeatedly attempted to login from USA IP addresses. 

That the player is located in the USA is without doubt, and we prohibit all players from USA. That they knowingly and deliberately circumvented our country checks is also without doubt.

3. In accordance with our T&Cs, in these situations we reserve the right to void all bets and return their account balance, up to the sum of their deposits. Furthermore, we reserve the right to confiscate funds in certain cases (such as repeat offenders). We did not confiscate any funds in this case, but instead voided all bets.

4. In this particular case, the customer has already withdrawn more than the sum of their deposits and accordingly we consider the matter closed. If the player offers their consent, we can gladly share transaction hashes of all relevant transactions.

5. Additionally, the player is sharing information and making claims in public web forums (such as this one) that they know to be untrue. For example, the player claims they have provided us with address proof outside of the USA which is untrue. The player has also made other untrue claims - such as the size of their deposits.

6. We continue to have a duty of privacy to the player, so cannot publish information we have that directly contradicts their claims without the player's explicit consent. We can, however, share this with our regulator, or an arbiter with the player's consent. Additionally, if the player would like to consent to us sharing this information with select senior members of the community, we would be happy to do so.

7. If the player wishes to continue their claim, we strongly encourage the player to take their case to either Curacao eGaming or AskGamblers.com, either of whom will act as an arbiter. We agree to be bound by any ruling they make in this case.

Fellow members - we know the player is creating a lot of noise about this case, and we treat every claim of this nature seriously, but in this situation, the player knowingly tried to circumvent our rules, was caught, has already withdrawn more than their deposit, and is providing false information in public. We ask for the community's support to dismiss these false claims by the player.

Thanks

Team Cloudbet

Because Cloudbet has volunteered to go to arbitration I have removed my neg trust and support of flag.

@efxes,

You claimed that you sent proof to cloudbet that you were not in the United States when you opened your account and placed any wagers.

They claim that you did not, and they are willing to use a third party to arbitrate.

I think it's more likely that you are lying than them.  Because this involves evidence that can't be made public, if you're actually telling the truth, you should work out arbitration and send them whatever documents you sent cloudbet.

[efxes]

Twitchy Seal I have been in the USA the whole time playing from VPN but I deposited that day ~70 BCH,, I went to withdraw 67 BCH and there's -.26 BTC balance.  Instead of taking that out of BCH balance they freeze account and tell me they're keeping my $20k in deposits.

Cloudbet can release everything I'm fine with it.  I apologize for lying about where I was, I have never been to Mexico in my life I made it up.  

Please see post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.msg55353973#msg55353973



Secondly:  Cloudbet volunteered to go to arbitration with Askgamblers.  Askgamblers turned down the arbitration twice because it has to do with sports betting.

I also have emailed curacao gaming who got in touch with Cloudbet.  It's been maybe 2 weeks and no word back from Curacao gaming so no luck there have to move forward.

I appreciate you Twitchy but don't understand removing the negative trust.


How do you feel about depositing $20,000 to a site you trusted, only to not be able to get it back?  I broke the terms, it's ok to rob me?

BTW don't know if you play poker twitchy but i am 'tennis' from seals see link above i lied about everything i am so sorry

[UmerIdrees]

I think it's more likely that you are lying than them.  Because this involves evidence that can't be made public, if you're actually telling the truth, you should work out arbitration and send them whatever documents you sent cloudbet.

You cannot trust him completely specially after he made this confession by himself and thereby making his case look like a troll. 
I am 100% sure he is exaggerating things here to get his money back.

I haven't been honest about multiple things so it's time to come clean. 

[smyslov]

Cloudbet thread is all messed this will ruin his already ruin business  I will not surprised if he decides to lock this thread and start a new one but even if he starts a new one, it will not take off because of this messed now this is one gambling site that is going to be over Cloudbet is very stubborn not to give in.

[robelneo]

Because Cloudbet has volunteered to go to arbitration I have removed my neg trust and support of flag.

@efxes,

You claimed that you sent proof to cloudbet that you were not in the United States when you opened your account and placed any wagers.

They claim that you did not, and they are willing to use a third party to arbitrate.

They should go for for an independent third party arbitration and respect the decision of the arbiter, this will prove once and for all on who is telling the truth and the legality of the claim, this is an interesting case, there could be a repeat of this scenario in the future.

@efxes I have read your confession just now I know your frustration but I still recommend that an arbiter should decide this issue I have this feeling that the decision will not be in your favor I hope I'm wrong but if ever I hope you can live with this, there's more to life than this.

[efxes]

I hear it's because they've done this to many more people so if they just gave me my deposits back they'd have to give other people their's too?  It's not fair though.  

I sent X that day, I should get X back or whatever the cashout is if i lost or take the winnings back and give X back if I won and not the winnings just give it back you know?  And I will give my promise if I am caught playing there you can take it next time no problem but give me my life back, you know?

[efxes]

They should go for for an independent third party arbitration and respect the decision of the arbiter, this will prove once and for all on who is telling the truth and the legality of the claim, this is an interesting case, there could be a repeat of this scenario in the future.

Hi Robel, if you see thread post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.msg55353973#msg55353973
I just confessed yesterday to multiple lies i've made up to try and get paid.  I'm sorry for mis-leading you guys but please read it and then decide.

[efxes]

Hi efxes,

Very sad you history and i know what you feeling, you know what happen when you win big in online shitty sportsbooks, they will try to find any excuse to not pay you and then also some stupid guys around this forum telling you that you are scammer and blablabla... supporting 100% the scammer sportsbook, they talk shit to you because they are not in your situation.

Its disgusting what cloudbet did to you, its so much money but know you show to everybody what kind of scammers they are.

I just wish you good luck and hope you get you moneyback but i doubt they will change.... just imagine how much money they are confiscating or blocking accounts with money and they do not know about this forum or they cant find help.

Keep fighting, and wish you the best too.

Confession:
OK guys, this is me coming clean.  I'm an honest person and this whole case and the money lost has been eating me up inside.  I haven't been honest about multiple things so it's time to come clean.  I don't agree with freerolling a winning account's last deposits, and as a human being I can justify so many things and rationalize so many things in my head.  But I can't stay in a lie, I am a free spirited musician and enjoy just living a peaceful life.  So I have to confess multiple things to you guys, and I wish I did this from the start- I was desperate to get my money back and didn't know if I could get it back any other way.  Money doesn't come easy to me.


1.  i have never been to Mexico in my life.  I have been playing out of San Francisco area the whole time through VPN.
2.  I'm a well-known poker player in the bitcoin community that goes by tennisCHAMP or tennis known as an all out degen.  Used to be dice, but for the longest time it's been sports.  I quit casino gambling a long time ago and I figured out how to pretty consistently win at tennis betting at the higher levels like ATP and WTA and Grand Slam.  I've won SWC Poker BigBTC and streaming challenges for thousands in bitcoin , and I've been into bitcoin more than anything ever since I arrived there.  I used to vlog a bit and I was driving full time Uber for years here in SF.  $15,000 is a fortune to me and it scares me how much I was willing to lie about in order to get paid (even if I feel it's rightly mine, lying just isn't me and I couldn't really keep going with this without unravelling).

3.  I had an account a couple years ago on Cloudbet and they banned me for being a USA IP with no money in the account one day they just said we don't accept you, so I started VPN'ing in after a couple years off the site.  I had lost so many bitcoins it was unbelievable.  

4.  I sent in real documents from USA, thinking they'd just give me my money back and ban me from the site.  That was not the case, so I started panicking and sent them in the fake note and stuff about Mexico.  This really crossed my threshold for how far I was willing to go and I lost it after I sent in the utility bill with the changed address- I don't like dealing with fake documents and doing this stuff.  


5.  The reality is that as I mentioned, I have been a tennis teacher and an Uber driver and a starving musician for years.  A year and a half ago my Nissan Leaf got hit and I got an insurance check for $8,000 which I ran up to $150,000 in bitcoin on Nitrogen Sports within a few days betting tennis.  I bet like $5,000 on Fabio Fognini to beat Nadal in the semi's of Monte Carlo and he hit straight sets and moneyline and I won like $75,000.. Nitrogen Sports has since severely limited my 2001 account (one of the first to register to Nitrogen Sports through Bitcointalk).  I won and lost all that money within only 3 days, never even really cashing out to USD and a week later that money would have been worth $450,000.  I've not had a day go by where I don't think about the money I missed out on every hour, especially being so job skill-less and only really having played poker and bet sports as a means of possibly some day making good money (though I do make websites and am getting better at that).  When I just ran up $1,300 into $40,000 in a week at Cloudbet, constantly withdrawing in order to secure all the funds and re-depositing, I thought I'd never look back again.  I was doing quite well managing but when I had the $15,000 stolen from Cloudbet, I went on tilt and lost the remaining $15,000 and am now back to square one as always have been my entire 34 years of existence.

6.  I am cloudbetscamsDOTCOM on bitcointalk and the person who put up cloudbetscams.com after being advised by people who dealt with the 330btc scam case from Cloudbet and other people in the poker community who said my only real recourse is to go out Cloudbet from all angles in order to hope to get their attention and get paid.  The more shady stuff I uncovered, the more enraged I got and I really want people to know not to deposit to this site because of these things.  I don't know what's going to happen with the site but I need to come completely clean.





Now:
Cloudbet, I will give you permission to post everything you want about me.  I am well known as 'tennis' from SWC Poker and in the bitcoin community.  Some people will recognize me if they are OG poker players.  So I'm not really fearing anything.  I feel awful about lying, not to you guys but to myself (and also to you guys).  So I'm coming clean mostly because I live such a clean life free of doing bad stuff, I have so many interests and hobbies, degenerate sports betting is jsut one of them.  Though I'm becoming massively sharp at betting tennis I will admit- every other sport I lose loads at.  And I don't really even beat poker any more, though I do have an occasional God run on stream with people cheering me on at SWC poker.

Cloudbet:  feel free to post the information you need to the public about my USA IP's, as I admit I have never even been to Mexico in my life.  I was born in Brazil and it's always been a dream to get back there, but I haven't done much traveling except for jazz band tours and stuff all over Europe having played with BB King and stuff in Switzerland in a fluke but was so fun, I'm a professional saxophonist and beat maker.  

You can post the transaction histories to clear that up, Idunno about posting my home IP but you can feel free to post the general locations all that to show that i was in the USA.



Beyond that, I still feel that I should be paid.  I hope I am not upsetting people and I should have been forthright from the start.  Money can truly bring out the worst in people, and it did in me.  I wanted to say anything just to get paid because I thought I was justified.  I felt like the angles and laws surrounding them preying on me for the TOS was not fair.  Waiting for me to deposit a large sum, I was obviously trying to leave a dent in their book- so they played the we can actually legally steal this money back.  

But this is about the confession and the go ahead to release all the information.  Like I said, I used to vlog as 'tennis' in the bitcoin community documenting my uber driving and saxophone playing and music making.  Only a few people saw those but in general i'm not scared of a little fame or notoriety.  I still feel I'm owed the deposits on the account and I hope that the community will agree with me on that.  It's not fair to freeroll USA players so in my mind I justified lying to everyone, even if not so well on purpose, about being in "mexico" and stuff.  


I'm here to answer any questions all week now that I'm being honest.  The monkey is off my back.  

I apologize to everyone.  To SBR, to Twoplustwo, to Bitcointalk.  It was not right for me to say wahtever i needed to say in order to try and get the money back.  I still feel that I should be owed every penny.  It's not fair.



I'm here to answer any and all questions you have and giving Cloudbet the go ahead to release whatever they need to the public about why I shouldn't be due my deposits back.  I still feel that I am owed them.

Thank you so so much Don.  Messages like this truly keep me going and I am thankful that I felt strong enough to tell the truth.

Just le tm eknow if you guys have more questions i will answer to best of my ability completely truthfully no more hiding anything.

[Saisher]

I hear it's because they've done this to many more people so if they just gave me my deposits back they'd have to give other people their's too?  It's not fair though.

I don't think they are going to do that there are so many people with complaints about not getting their money I don't think they can accommodate all of these people

I sent X that day, I should get X back or whatever the cashout is if i lost or take the winnings back and give X back if I won and not the winnings just give it back you know?  And I will give my promise if I am caught playing there you can take it next time no problem but give me my life back, you know?

I don't think they will take your promise, for them you break their rules and that's it if it's only few hundreds they will give it back, but we are talking $15000 and this is huge money.

[efxes]

I hear it's because they've done this to many more people so if they just gave me my deposits back they'd have to give other people their's too?  It's not fair though.

I don't think they are going to do that there are so many people with complaints about not getting their money I don't think they can accommodate all of these people

I sent X that day, I should get X back or whatever the cashout is if i lost or take the winnings back and give X back if I won and not the winnings just give it back you know?  And I will give my promise if I am caught playing there you can take it next time no problem but give me my life back, you know?

I don't think they will take your promise, for them you break their rules and that's it if it's only few hundreds they will give it back, but we are talking $15000 and this is huge money.

Hi. 

Usually it is standard to return the balance on the account or the the deposits made on the account since the account had a zero balance.  This is standard. 
I've never heard of someone accepting large deposits and taking them and not returning them (reputable books)

[efxes]

Another confession: I have mistaken the last deposits, I thought the last 3 BCH and 11 BCH were from cloudbet they were not but you can see here my last 4 deposits and they add to 84 BCH.

On the last day within 2 hours I send three successive deposits of 60 BCH total (24, 20, 16)
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/qp468pkf0ujwcpr4ak70ceya4seyapzy4vxk7hewqv

This is the BCH wallet address.  I added on with each of those BCH deposits to the balance with the previous day's BCH balance I believe, though I know for sure the 60BCH wasn't because I lost, those were all basically one deposit.