Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution.

[Nemo1024]

Semjon Semenchenko, a deputy to the Supreme Rada, proposed to kidnap Russian citizens as hostages, so as to later exchange them for convicted Ukrainian criminals.

https://russian.rt.com/article/307183-deputat-verhovnoi-rady-predlozhil-brat-rossiyan-v


Meanwhile, on the night of the 11th of June some people threw eggs at the Ukrainian embassy (why?), and immediately Ukrainian Rada deputies shouted that this will lead to breaking of diplomatic relations between Russia and Ukraine:
https://rns.online/economy/Ukraina-mozhet-razorvat-dipotnosheniya-s-Rossiei-iz-za-ataki-na-posolstvo-v-Moskve-2016-06-11/?track=main_lastnews?&utm_source=rnews

Sounds like a pre-planned false flag. Besides, shell we count how many time Russian embassies in Ukraine got assaulted over the last 2 years?

[bryant.coleman]

Semjon Semenchenko, a deputy to the Supreme Rada, proposed to kidnap Russian citizens as hostages, so as to later exchange them for convicted Ukrainian criminals.

https://russian.rt.com/article/307183-deputat-verhovnoi-rady-predlozhil-brat-rossiyan-v

Yeah... good luck with that. Actually Putin will be hoping that something like this may actually happen. It gives him the perfect excuse to invade Ukraine with regular troops, and to remove the current neo-Nazi regime headed by Petro Poroshenko. BTW... isn't this Semenchenko guy an ethnic Russian? According to Wikipedia, his real name is Konstantin Igorevich Grishyn.

[Dan Yur]

Ukraine has no right to exist as a state

[Nemo1024]

Semjon Semenchenko, a deputy to the Supreme Rada, proposed to kidnap Russian citizens as hostages, so as to later exchange them for convicted Ukrainian criminals.

https://russian.rt.com/article/307183-deputat-verhovnoi-rady-predlozhil-brat-rossiyan-v

Yeah... good luck with that. Actually Putin will be hoping that something like this may actually happen. It gives him the perfect excuse to invade Ukraine with regular troops, and to remove the current neo-Nazi regime headed by Petro Poroshenko. BTW... isn't this Semenchenko guy an ethnic Russian? According to Wikipedia, his real name is Konstantin Igorevich Grishyn.

There is a fair number of quite brainwashed Russians in Ukraine, who became turned into "anti-Russians"; or those seeking personal gain, vying for the title of a king of a local mound. The question itself is a bit washed-out as there is no such thing as an "ethnic Ukrainian", just like there is no "ethnic Midlander" in Britain...

Ukraine has no right to exist as a state

That should be entirely up to the people inhabiting a state in question, even if the state is quite artificial. People inhabiting the land known as borderlands are figuring it out... though they chose the hardest and bloodiest path possible.

[bryant.coleman]

There is a fair number of quite brainwashed Russians in Ukraine, who became turned into "anti-Russians"; or those seeking personal gain, vying for the title of a king of a local mound. The question itself is a bit washed-out as there is no such thing as an "ethnic Ukrainian", just like there is no "ethnic Midlander" in Britain...

IMO, "ethnic Ukrainian" means inhabitants of oblasts such as Ternopol and Lvov, where the native inhabitants are more similar to the Poles than they are to the Russians. Even their religion is different (mostly Catholic). Now they have forcefully imposed their language and culture upon the Central Ukrainians and the Eastern Ukrainians.

[Nemo1024]

There is a fair number of quite brainwashed Russians in Ukraine, who became turned into "anti-Russians"; or those seeking personal gain, vying for the title of a king of a local mound. The question itself is a bit washed-out as there is no such thing as an "ethnic Ukrainian", just like there is no "ethnic Midlander" in Britain...

IMO, "ethnic Ukrainian" means inhabitants of oblasts such as Ternopol and Lvov, where the native inhabitants are more similar to the Poles than they are to the Russians. Even their religion is different (mostly Catholic). Now they have forcefully imposed their language and culture upon the Central Ukrainians and the Eastern Ukrainians.

I understand what you mean. Still it is a case of mixing up of the terms of "ethnicity" and "cultural background". The process of turning of Eastward looking Orthodix Christian Russians/Rusin into Uniat Westward-looking "Zapadency" (Westerners) was going on a several hundred years. It changed the cultural background of those people, though their ethnicity remained unchanged.

[Nemo1024]

Ukraine takes another step toward Nazism.

Today Poroshenko approved the new distinguishing markings for the military ranks, which will replace stars. Stars are, according to the Ukrainian law a mark of Communism, with the memory and achievements of which they are fighting. Never mind that the stars as distinctions were used by most of the world powers, including the Russian Empire.

The stars will be replaced by rhombus, which were used as a marking of the UPA Nazi collaborationist battalions in WWII:

http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1640825/

NAZI UPA markings:


"New" Ukrainian markings for the police:


"New" Ukrainian markings for the military:


Other "stars as symbols of communism" that Ukrainians should forbid:

[Nemo1024]

A repost of a comment from Lada's blog, regarding the recent developments in Ukraine

Hi Lada, amazing good news are coming from Ukraine: both Ukrainian Orthodox churches buried the hatchet and united their force for three peace marches towards Kiew since last Sunday. They call it: “Crusade for peace in Donbass.” More and more people are participating and they are marching behind the praying and singing monks at the front of the marches holding monstrances. I’ve nothing found except two German articles in the international press including Russia. Here is one of them enriched with Russian/Ukrainian YouTube videos: http://quer-denken.tv/ukrainer-stehen-auf-zigtausende-auf-einem-friedensmarsch-nach-kiew/
I recommend the Google Translator: https://translate.google.ru/

Seems the common people won’t go hungry any longer. The Ukro-Nazis didn’t dare to provoke them so far. The establishment in Kiev seems to be in deep despair.

Here is a picture from the German article with subtext "Participants of freedom march. All Russian agents?"

[Masha Sha]

Here is a picture from the German article with subtext "Participants of freedom march. All Russian agents?"

His name was Gandhi... And the march he lead create the biggest democracy on Earth... So who knows how far they will go. But I really like it.

And to your question, never! Russian agents would not be able to simply imagine such a peaceful and people based idea...

[virtualx]

Ukraine has no right to exist as a state

Why? I am curious to hear your reasons.

[Nemo1024]

Ukraine has no right to exist as a state

Why? I am curious to hear your reasons.

While the wording may be a bit unfortunate, I guess the following was meant:
Ukraine is an artificial state that was created less than 100 years ago by Lenin, based on the Russian lands of Malorossia  and Novorossia, and later expanded by Stalin with the lands of Galicia and the Transcarpathian Rus. The Ukrainian language is too an artificial construct, a mix of the local Russian dialect with heavy infusion of Polish and German.

For the past 25+ years Ukraine has been actively decrying everything, that has to do with its history and instead trying to substitute it with an artificial construct, while the main ideology of the country has become "hate everything that is Russian". Can a country, based on hatred, survive in the long run?

Now, there is nothing wrong with such artificial states, but for them to be viable one vital condition needs to be observed: the people in such a country must live in mutual respect and take cooperative decisions. Look at Switzerland. All important decisions are made through referendums, allowing this - let's be honest - artificial country to blossom. Ukraine violated this vital condition in 2014, when it started shelling Donbass and killing its residence as a response to their referendum for use of Russian language on par with Ukrainian and for greater autonomy in decision how the money that are earned by the region are spent.

With the first artillery shells that the Ukrainian army and ukro-nazis of Azov let lose on the civilian population of Donbass (and are still at it!), and with the US-installed "government" condoning such actions, Ukraine committed a suicide as a state.

[Nemo1024]

A repost of a comment from Lada's blog, regarding the recent developments in Ukraine

Hi Lada, amazing good news are coming from Ukraine: both Ukrainian Orthodox churches buried the hatchet and united their force for three peace marches towards Kiew since last Sunday. They call it: “Crusade for peace in Donbass.” More and more people are participating and they are marching behind the praying and singing monks at the front of the marches holding monstrances. I’ve nothing found except two German articles in the international press including Russia. Here is one of them enriched with Russian/Ukrainian YouTube videos: http://quer-denken.tv/ukrainer-stehen-auf-zigtausende-auf-einem-friedensmarsch-nach-kiew/
I recommend the Google Translator: https://translate.google.ru/

Seems the common people won’t go hungry any longer. The Ukro-Nazis didn’t dare to provoke them so far. The establishment in Kiev seems to be in deep despair.

Here is a picture from the German article with subtext "Participants of freedom march. All Russian agents?"

I wrote about a week ago about this "Cross-bearing pilgrimage" ("Krestnyj hod" - which is different from a crusade "krestovyj pohod"), which started in various parts of Ukraine and is converging on Kiev. There are fears that once the peace march reaches Kiev, some serious provocations may take place.

Here is my translation of the first 2 paragraph's of Rostislav Ishenko's latest analytical article https://cont.ws/post/325432

A fully overt preparation to overthrow of Poroshenko is taking place in Kiev. The political campaign, which has for six months been sluggish going in the  format of requirements to hold early elections to the Supreme Rada, has intensified and resulted in a joint manifestation of the "Azov" Nazis and the trade unions, disgruntled by the sharp decline in living standards. The trigger of the information campaign was the provocative bombing of Alena Prytula's car that killed Sheremet. Media have reported that the police were conducting an "illegal surveillance" of him. It's a full remake of "Gongadze case" (a Ukrainian journalist, who was kileld on the 17th of September 2000, and that Kuchma's government was allegedly linked to the killing) - down to the smallest details (from Prytula to police surveillance).

The trigger for the street riots may be the currently being prepared by the Nazis attack on a religious procession for peace, coming to Kiev from Svyatogorsk and Pochaev Laurus, and which is anticipated to arrive to the Ukrainian capital next week. Opponents of the Kiev authorities believe that the procession can amass up to 1.5 million of their supporters on the streets of Kiev. Even if these estimates are an exaggeration, we are still talking about tens or even hundreds of thousands of Orthodox anti-fascists, agitating against the war, and that is exactly that legal political alternative to the regime, the appearance of which Poroshenko tried to avoid by prohibiting the completely tame Communist Party of Ukraine, and silencing not even the oppositionists, but simply opposing media and unfolding repression against the anti-fascist activists.

...

And, as nothing in politics is isolated, here is how this ties into the international political situation, from the end of the same article:

...

But the development of events in Kiev shows that the mechanism of the coup is launched and only a rare stroke of luck or stupidity of the opponents can help Poroshenko to survive. In addition to the facts, already given in the beginning of the article, let me point to the open panic in Kiev political circles and expert coterie. While recently, important and satisfied, they were promising to wait for the collapse of Russia and the division of its territory, in recent weeks the Ukrainian politicians and experts in one voice say, and screaming about the danger of destabilization. And many speak openly about the impending coup. Even the always confident in the wisdom and insightfulness of Poroshenko Vadim Karasev suddenly threw a fit with the requirement to the President is to urgently follow the example of Erdogan and write a letter of repentance to Putin, citing the need for the surrender by the fact that only Russia could save Poroshenko from the coup.

I really doubt that, even if desired, Russia would be able to do this, but the fact that hysteria and a bet on Putin as the last hope of the "Ukrainian democracy" is indicative.

This tells us that Poroshenko's surroundings understand that his overthrow is currently unprofitable for Russia and that the Kremlin will not support the coup. But we have just said, that it's not profitable for the West either. On whom are the coup-makers betting then? They can not expect to survive in complete isolation? Ukraine is not North Korea.

As we know, right now in the American politics there is an active battle between Doves-isolationists, presented the outgoing Democrat Obama and fighting for the presidency Republican Trump, and hawks-interventionists, who bet on Clinton. The isolationists are interested in the maintained stability of Ukraine before the elections in the United States. The interventionists, on the contrary, have nothing against the use of an explosion in the Ukraine as a means of propaganda (criticism of the lack of rigidity of Obama and of "compacent" Trump). In addition, they count on the aggravation of the Ukrainian crisis to drag the United States so deeply into a confrontation with Russia, that any administration would not been able to change the foreign policy.

In fact, the interventionists do not mind to start the official "little war", with the participation of the American and Russian allies, which would make any administration to firmly support the allies, including the risk to get involved in a full-scale war with Russia. The hawks believe that at the last moment Moscow would retreat when faced with nuclear blackmail.

The isolationists control the official decision-making institutions. Therefore, officially the US is trying to establish a constructive dialogue with Russia (Kerry's visit to Moscow). The interventionists work through their many supporters in the State Department and the Pentagon, which, without having the formal authority, nevertheless, promise on behalf of the US, support for any insurgency capable of delivering troubles to Russia.

The attempted coup in Turkey, as well as destabilization of Armenia and Kazakhstan have not yet yielded the desired effect. Ukraine is the last trump of the interventionists. The main thing is the objective conditions for the rebellion have already developed there. It's not necessary to organize it, the rebels do not need help, and US does not need to take any responsibility. They need only to nod in time and everything goes by itself.

The overthrow of Poroshenko does not simply mean the intensification of the collapse of Ukraine, but also the beginning of a bloodbath throughout the country. Maybe only DNR and LVR will probably have it easier, since the post-Poroshenko Makhno (bandits) will have no power to spare. The interventionists have calculated that a deployment of Libyan or Syrian scenarios in Ukraine will not allow the Kremlin to keep on a pause. Russia should be drawn into the conflict, collapsing its decision space into a point, while the United States will have room for maneuver.

In principle, the Kremlin has an asymmetrical response to this scenario, but even it is on the verge of direct military confrontation with the United States. Thus, preparing a rebellion in the Ukraine, with the subsequent expansion of the civil war and transitioning the residues statehood into Makhnovshchina, carries the danger of a major regional conflict, which can escalate into a global one.

Poroshenko tools for localization of the rebellion are extremely limited. Let us hope that he is lucky. The worst-case scenario will not disappear because of that - it will only become postponed. But time is one of the most important strategic factors. Much of the world will change in the first half of 2017. The results of Russian strategic successes in 2016 should start to materialize. The balance of global forces must clearly begin to move in our favour. The conflict is something we need the least now. We're almost on the other shore and it would be a shame to get into the vortex of uncontrollable events at the last moment.

[Nemo1024]

Last Hope for Ukraine: All-Ukrainian Orthodox March for Peace in Donbass Culminates in Kiev
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/last-hope-for-ukraine-all-ukrainian-orthodox-march-for-peace-in-donbass-culminates-in-kiev/

the All-Ukrainian Russian Orthodox March for Peace in Donbass started on July 3, one in the east (Donbass), another in the west (Ternopol) of Ukraine. Both marched on foot to Kiev, where they converged and joined forces.

The name for this unique event, which on a smaller scale regularly takes place for special occasions in Russian Orthodox churches, is Кpecтный xoд (Krestniy Khod). However, the size and scope of this particular happening is unprecedented.

Some incorrectly translate Кpecтный xoд to English as ‘a crusade.’ In reality, the right translation would be a ‘peaceful pilgrimage’ with the elements of a ‘march.’  The purpose of such event is multi-prong: to atone for personal and collective sins of humans; to ask for forgiveness and seek god’s and Divine Mother’s protection; to declare the desire for unity and peace.

Technically, initially – some time in 9th-10th century or so – a Catholic ‘crusade’ did signify the same as Кpecтный xoд. However, the meaning of a crusade was irreparably tarnished as a result of aggressive Crusades by violent Western/Catholic knights against Jerusalem, Constantinople, Middle East and Russia with the expressed purpose of looting and conquest. Therefore, the word ‘crusade’ acquired a decidedly negative and derogatory connotation.

A reader asked me if these were two separate branches of Orthodox Church that wanted to show their unity by converging in Kiev. No, this is the same Russian Orthodox Church: its Ukrainian branch. This march united all those in Ukraine who belong to the Russian Orthodox Church, with Patriarchy in Moscow. This is the dominant religion in Ukraine.

However, there is a breakaway branch of ‘Ukrainian Orthodox Church,’ unrecognized by other Orthodox Churches and world religions. There is also a very confusing ‘Greek-Catholic’ Church, primarily in Western Ukraine, where the Vatican penetrated when those territories belonged to Poland and Austria-Hungary. The latter is essentially Catholicism with some Orthodox stuff thrown in to camouflage its real essence. Both of these have been thriving and greatly expanding since 2014 Kiev coup. They both support the ‘right sector’ and Bandera ukro-nazis; both are Russophobic. Neither of these two were a party to this All-Ukrainian march.

There is a big problem in Ukraine with these two breakaway (shall we call them separatist?) religions: using nationalists and ukro-nazis, they attack regular Orthodox churches and monasteries, beat up, kill or expel Batyushkas (priests), threaten congregations and take over such churches for themselves. The problem is being silenced or quietly supported by Poroshenko and his junta. Russian State and the Russian Church have been trying to appeal to Catholic and other religions, as well as to Western leaders to help restore justice. The West – as usual – is silent.

There were many threats against this All-Ukraine March for Peace, and not only from ukro-nazis, but also from Ukraine government officials. Ukraine’s minister of interior Arsen Avakov and his advisor Gerashchenko posted threats against march participants on their Facebook pages; recommendations to attack and kill the marchers sounded from some Ukraine parliament deputies. Rotten eggs were thrown, fake bombs were set up on the way. Odessa pilgrims were threatened to be BURNED ALIVE inside buses they were boarding to get to Kiev (recall Odessa May 2, 2014 Kulikovo Polie tragedy when people were burned alive)! Attempts to intimidate pilgrims, disrupt the march and block it from entering Kiev were made by ukro-nazis from fascist OUN/UPA.

...

While the dark forces that took over Ukraine ran to their Mediterranean villas or hid in their holes, an extraordinary situation took place in Kiev as one hundred thousand people joined the march through its streets. Previously, ten thousand joined the march when it traveled through Kharkov, and thousands joined it in every town and city it passed. In every town, including Kiev, volunteers cooked free meals and prepared tea for pilgrims. Kiev, for the first time since the bloody February 2014 coup, turned into a city of peace and unity. Observers noted that the energy during the march was incredibly high. And they are absolutely right.

...

Read the full article and view more photos at: https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/last-hope-for-ukraine-all-ukrainian-orthodox-march-for-peace-in-donbass-culminates-in-kiev/

[BADecker]

Last Hope for Ukraine: All-Ukrainian Orthodox March for Peace in Donbass Culminates in Kiev
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/last-hope-for-ukraine-all-ukrainian-orthodox-march-for-peace-in-donbass-culminates-in-kiev/

the All-Ukrainian Russian Orthodox March for Peace in Donbass started on July 3, one in the east (Donbass), another in the west (Ternopol) of Ukraine. Both marched on foot to Kiev, where they converged and joined forces.

The name for this unique event, which on a smaller scale regularly takes place for special occasions in Russian Orthodox churches, is Кpecтный xoд (Krestniy Khod). However, the size and scope of this particular happening is unprecedented.

Some incorrectly translate Кpecтный xoд to English as ‘a crusade.’ In reality, the right translation would be a ‘peaceful pilgrimage’ with the elements of a ‘march.’  The purpose of such event is multi-prong: to atone for personal and collective sins of humans; to ask for forgiveness and seek god’s and Divine Mother’s protection; to declare the desire for unity and peace.

Technically, initially – some time in 9th-10th century or so – a Catholic ‘crusade’ did signify the same as Кpecтный xoд. However, the meaning of a crusade was irreparably tarnished as a result of aggressive Crusades by violent Western/Catholic knights against Jerusalem, Constantinople, Middle East and Russia with the expressed purpose of looting and conquest. Therefore, the word ‘crusade’ acquired a decidedly negative and derogatory connotation.

A reader asked me if these were two separate branches of Orthodox Church that wanted to show their unity by converging in Kiev. No, this is the same Russian Orthodox Church: its Ukrainian branch. This march united all those in Ukraine who belong to the Russian Orthodox Church, with Patriarchy in Moscow. This is the dominant religion in Ukraine.

However, there is a breakaway branch of ‘Ukrainian Orthodox Church,’ unrecognized by other Orthodox Churches and world religions. There is also a very confusing ‘Greek-Catholic’ Church, primarily in Western Ukraine, where the Vatican penetrated when those territories belonged to Poland and Austria-Hungary. The latter is essentially Catholicism with some Orthodox stuff thrown in to camouflage its real essence. Both of these have been thriving and greatly expanding since 2014 Kiev coup. They both support the ‘right sector’ and Bandera ukro-nazis; both are Russophobic. Neither of these two were a party to this All-Ukrainian march.

There is a big problem in Ukraine with these two breakaway (shall we call them separatist?) religions: using nationalists and ukro-nazis, they attack regular Orthodox churches and monasteries, beat up, kill or expel Batyushkas (priests), threaten congregations and take over such churches for themselves. The problem is being silenced or quietly supported by Poroshenko and his junta. Russian State and the Russian Church have been trying to appeal to Catholic and other religions, as well as to Western leaders to help restore justice. The West – as usual – is silent.

There were many threats against this All-Ukraine March for Peace, and not only from ukro-nazis, but also from Ukraine government officials. Ukraine’s minister of interior Arsen Avakov and his advisor Gerashchenko posted threats against march participants on their Facebook pages; recommendations to attack and kill the marchers sounded from some Ukraine parliament deputies. Rotten eggs were thrown, fake bombs were set up on the way. Odessa pilgrims were threatened to be BURNED ALIVE inside buses they were boarding to get to Kiev (recall Odessa May 2, 2014 Kulikovo Polie tragedy when people were burned alive)! Attempts to intimidate pilgrims, disrupt the march and block it from entering Kiev were made by ukro-nazis from fascist OUN/UPA.

...

While the dark forces that took over Ukraine ran to their Mediterranean villas or hid in their holes, an extraordinary situation took place in Kiev as one hundred thousand people joined the march through its streets. Previously, ten thousand joined the march when it traveled through Kharkov, and thousands joined it in every town and city it passed. In every town, including Kiev, volunteers cooked free meals and prepared tea for pilgrims. Kiev, for the first time since the bloody February 2014 coup, turned into a city of peace and unity. Observers noted that the energy during the march was incredibly high. And they are absolutely right.

...

Read the full article and view more photos at: https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/last-hope-for-ukraine-all-ukrainian-orthodox-march-for-peace-in-donbass-culminates-in-kiev/

They could have taken a shortcut, you know.     

[Nemo1024]

On the 24th Kiev junta and their overseas handlers celebrated the Ukrainian independence day....

But what was that about...

Ukraine celebrated its independence – from what?
http://stanislavs.org/ukraine-celebrated-its-independence-from-what/

Rostislav Ischenko wrote an article (in Russian) “Lost Independence”, about the recently celebrated in Kiev Independence day. I want to start this post with a translation of a short fragment from that article, followed by a report from Donbass – how Poroshenko’s words that he “loves Donbass” manifest into mortar shells falling onto people’s heads.

    Ukraine celebrates the 25th anniversary of its independence. Independence from what?

    From the oil of Tyumen and Yamal gas, from Yakutia diamonds, and from gold of Kolyma, from the world’s largest reservoir of fresh water – Lake Baikal, and from the incalculable riches of the Arctic shelf. From all this, and many other things has Ukraine been independent for the last twenty-five years. But two and a half years of Poroshenko’s reign achieved new accomplishments. Now Ukraine is also independent from Crimea with its unique climatic conditions, and from Donbass – two regions which gave more than 30% overall and nearly half of foreign exchange earnings to the budget.

    Over these two and a half years Ukraine got independent of several millions of its citizens. Optimists say that of five, the pessimists – that of fifteen. Even during the Great Patriotic War, Ukraine was “freed” from Ukrainians with lower rates. So there are things in which Ukrainians can be more effective than Germans and their allies, who built a “united Europe” in the first half of the twentieth century. Back then, too, the Europeans wanted to see Ukraine in Europe, and neither did they promise that the Ukrainians would get there together with Ukraine. As a result, the country was cleared of 20% of its population over the three years [of Nazi-German occupation]. The current government cleared it by 25% over two and a half years.

    At this rate, by 2025 Ukraine will become independent of its entire population. Presumably complete happiness will then come. No opposition. No dissatisfied. Only the eternal peace, reconciling the right and left, the Russian-speaking and the Surzhik-speaking, “Eurointegrationalists” and Eurasians, Orthodox and Uniate, rainbowy fanatics of homosexual love and the harsh traditionalists.

    All this happened because first of all Ukraine got independent from common sense, having become a country of victorious absurdity already in the beginning of 1992. Opponents of exit from the USSR accounted for the majority of the population. They controlled the parliament. Executive power was so diligent and so quick to execute commands of the Union center (even before they were given) that Ukraine in the years of perestroika, was called a “stagnation reserve”, being contrasted with the “democratic Belarus”, in which social life was flourishing.

    …

Ischenko’s conclusion is that Ukraine was a failed state from day 1 – because its elites were creating the state for their own enrichment and not for the benefit of the population, and now, when there is nothing left to plunder they are looking towards either US, EU or Russia to fix their problems:

    …

    But how well it all began. The largest, bigger than the Russian, European army, huge arsenals of the most modern weapons, half of the strategic aviation of the USSR, the third in the world (after Russia and the US) nuclear arsenal. 40% of the Union’s machine-building industry, about 50% of the Union’s Agriculture, 60% of the Union’s GDP. Ports, both commercial and military fleet, gas pipeline system, higher education institutions and world-famous scientific schools, highly qualified workforce and population, which ranked first in Europe in terms of education, social welfare, health care.

    It seemed like it would never end. And yet, just 25 years later – the emptiness, catastrophe.

    Now we say that the state has not materialised. But it didn’t happen now. It did not materialise from the first moment and hasn’t been a valid state for even a minute. Because, if the Ukrainian state manifested, at least at one point of its existence, it would never have reached such a life as now.

    A state that somebody needs can’t not manifest. But a Ukrainian state is not even needed by the Ukrainian Nazis. They come as scavengers upon an already dead carcass, to have time to grab a piece of rotting flesh, and die next to the remains of Ukraine. For the Nazis, too, can not exist without a state. But they are finishing it off as they have nothing constructive to offer – in comparison with the program of the oligarchic elite, which they are coming to replace – except for “take everything and divide”, while dividing it in a new way.

    However, there is nothing left to divide.

Meanwhile, the sad state of things in the East – how people of Donbass survive Poroshenko’s “love”. Watch the following documentary fragment of Vesti from 28th of August 2016, translated by me:

https://youtu.be/GoOjLIUbFSs

[Nemo1024]

The following is a fragment from a quite sharp-tongued well-written article at Zero Hedge:

Don't Think Armageddon, Think "A Thousand Balls Of Flame... And Then Crickets!"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-28/dont-think-armageddon-think-thousand-balls-flame-and-then-crickets

by Tyler Durden

...

Here, we have to look at how Russia has responded to previous provocations. These are all the facts that we know, and can use to predict what will happen, as opposed to purely fictional, conjectural statements unrelated to known facts.

When the US or its proxies attack an enclave of Russian citizens outside of Russia's borders, here are the types of responses that we have been able to observe so far:

    1. The example of Georgia. During the Summer Olympics in Beijing (a traditional time of peace), the Georgian military, armed and trained by the US and Israel, invaded South Ossetia. This region was part of Georgia in name only, being mostly inhabited by Russian speakers and passport-holders. Georgian troops started shelling its capital, Tskhinval, killing some Russian peacekeeping troops stationed in the region and causing civilian casualties. In response, Russian troops rolled into Georgia, within hours completely eliminating Georgia’s war-making capability. They announced that South Ossetia was de facto no longer part of Georgia, throwing in Abkhazia (another disputed Russian enclave) for good measure, and withdrew. Georgia’s warmongering president Saakashvili was pronounced a “political corpse” and left to molder in place. Eventually he was forced to flee Georgia, where he has been declared a fugitive from justice. The US State Department recently gave him a new job, as Governor of Odessa in the Ukraine. Recently, Russian-Georgian relations have been on the mend.

    2. The example of Crimea. During the Winter Olympics in Sochi, in Russia (a traditional time of peace) there occurred an illegal, violent overthrow of the elected, constitutional government of the Ukraine, followed by the installation of a US-picked puppet administration. In response, the overwhelmingly Russian population of the autonomous region of Crimea held a referendum. Some 95% of them voted to secede from the Ukraine and to once again become part of Russia, which they had been for centuries and until very recently. The Russians then used their troops already stationed in the region under an international agreement to make sure that the results of the referendum were duly enacted. Not a single shot was fired during this perfectly peaceful exercise in direct democracy.

    3. The example of Crimea again. During the Summer Olympics in Rio (a traditional time of peace) a number of Ukrainian operatives stormed the Crimean border and were swiftly apprehended by Russia's Federal Security Service, together with a cache of weapons and explosives. A number of them were killed in the process, along with two Russians. The survivors immediately confessed to planning to organize terrorist attacks at the ferry terminal that links Crimea with the Russian mainland and a railway station. The ringleader of the group confessed to being promised the princely sum of $140 for carrying out these attacks. All of them are very much looking forward to a warm, dry bunk and three square meals of day, care of the Russian government, which must seem like a slice of heaven compared to the violence, chaos, destitution and desolation that characterizes life in present-day Ukraine. In response, the government in Kiev protested against “Russian provocation,” and put its troops on alert to prepare against “Russian invasion.” Perhaps the next shipment of US aid to the Ukraine should include a supply of chlorpromazine or some other high-potency antipsychotic medication.

    Note the constant refrain of “during the Olympics.” This is not a coincidence but is indicative of a certain American modus operandi. Yes, waging war during a traditional time of peace is both cynical and stupid. But the American motto seems to be “If we try something repeatedly and it still doesn't work, then we just aren’t trying hard enough.” In the minds of those who plan these events, the reason they never work right can’t possibly have anything to do with it being stupid. This is known as “Level III Stupid”: stupidity so profound that it is unable to comprehend its own stupidity.

    4. The example of Donbass. After the events described in point 2 above, this populous, industrialized region, which was part of Russia until well into the 20th century and is linguistically and culturally Russian, went into political turmoil, because most of the locals wanted nothing to do with the government that had been installed in Kiev, which they saw as illegitimate. The Kiev government proceeded to make things worse, first by enacting laws infringing on the rights of Russian-speakers, then by actually attacking the region with the army, which they continue to do to this day, with three unsuccessful invasions and continuous shelling of both residential and industrial areas, in the course of which over ten thousand civilians have been murdered and many more wounded. In response, Russia assisted with establishing a local resistance movement supported by a capable military contingent formed of local volunteers. This was done by Russian volunteers, acting in an unofficial capacity, and by Russian private citizens donating money to the cause. In spite of Western hysteria over “Russian invasion” and “Russian aggression,” no evidence of it exists. Instead, the Russian government has done just three things: it refused to interfere with the work of its citizens coming to the aid of Donbass; it pursued a diplomatic strategy for resolving the conflict; and it has provided numerous convoys of humanitarian aid to the residents of Donbass. Russia’s diplomatic initiative resulted in two international agreements—Minsk I and Minsk II—which compelled both Kiev and Donbass to pursue a strategy of political resolution of the conflict through cessation of hostilities and the granting to Donbass of full autonomy. Kiev has steadfastly refused to fulfill its obligations under these agreements. The conflict is now frozen, but continuing to bleed because of Ukrainian shelling, waiting for the Ukrainian puppet government to collapse.

    To complete the picture, let us include Russia’s recent military action in Syria, where it came to the defense of the embattled Syrian government and quickly demolished a large part of ISIS/ISIL/Daesh/Islamic Caliphate, along with various other terrorist organizations active in the region. The rationale for this action is that Russia saw a foreign-funded terrorist nest in Syria as a direct threat to Russia’s security. Two other notable facts here are that Russia acted in accordance with international law, having been invited by Syria’s legitimate, internationally recognized government and that the military action was scaled back as soon as it seemed possible for all of the legitimate (non-terrorist) parties to the conflict to return to the negotiating table. These three elements—using military force as a reactive security measure, scrupulous adherence to international law, and seeing military action as being in the service of diplomacy—are very important to understanding Russia’s methods and ambitions.

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[Racey]

Here is the Hillary lie.  She claims, through her spokesperson, that she never met with Pinchuk during her tenure as Sec. of State."

Lying Hillary, Pinocchio and Her Ukrainian Oligarch

Edit: Also this The case for the breakup of the Ukraine

[Nemo1024]

Edit: Also this The case for the breakup of the Ukraine

A very good article. Alas, it sums really wall both the state of Ukraine and the ignorance and the media black-out in Europe.

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Even a cursory look at what is happening in the Ukraine clearly shows that Stage 5 has already been reached, quite a while ago, really. What comes next is basically Somalia. But a big, really big, Somalia, with millions of assault rifles circulating in the population, with major industrial sites capable of triggering another Chernobyl-like disaster, with various death-squads (private or semi-official) freely roaming around the country and imposing their rule with armored vehicles and heavy machine guns. So if the always Euro-centric West could afford to ignore a Somalia in Somalia there is no way it can ignore a Somalia on the EU and NATO border. To put it simply: there is absolutely nothing standing between the Somalia in the Ukraine and the EU. Nothing. Once the inevitable, and this time catastrophic, final collapse happens the resulting explosion will simple take the path of least resistance.

To the east we have Russia, with her superbly capable state security agencies, the newly created National Guard, large military formations deployed along the borders and, most importantly, an excellent understanding of what is taking place in the Ukraine. To the west we have basically Conchita Wurst’s Europe, unable to formulate any policy at all (since all orders come from Uncle Sam), with parade-type military forces mostly hallucinating about the “Russian threat”, with security services who can’t even cope with the current flow of immigrants and, most importantly, with a ruling class and population which has no clue or understanding whatsoever of what is happening in the Ukraine.

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Ukro-Nazis attacked and burnt down today the Studio of TV channel "Inter" in Kiev. A lot of people were wounded. "Inter", labelled as "pro-Russian" was virtually the last channel replaying the true state of Ukraine. The channel received threats and was subjects to assaults over the past two years since Maidan.

Foto and video reports here:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1473002244




One remembers the slogan of the Maidan: "Ukraine is Eurpoe". In this case it is like Europe, or more precisely, Germany of anno 1940...

[Nemo1024]

Several events today in the former Ukraine:

1. Nazis attacked the Russian embassy with firecrackers.

https://www.rt.com/news/359643-russian-embassy-ukraine-attacked/

Overnight a group of some 20 radical Ukrainian nationalists, attacked the Russian Embassy in Kiev with fireworks. The embassy is bracing itself for potential trouble on election day.

The attack happened at about 1:00am on Saturday morning, a diplomatic source told TASS news agency.

“Unidentified individuals threw a smoke stick at the embassy’s territory and shot fireworks at the building,” the source said, adding that the attackers failed to ignite anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDhf4PoExw

2. Meanwhile the French foreign minister called Lavrov to tell about the results of the French and German FM's visit to Kiev: Minsk agreements are de-facto dead. Lavrov, it turn, asked, the French FM to exert some influence on the Kiev regime with regard to the above attack.

Alas, as I see it, Kiev regime is beyond reason and salvation - the power there is being taken over by the Nazis, so Poroshenko is now even more of a figurehead puppet, than he was before

3. Zaharcheko, head of the Donetsk Republic, said today that if the bombardments and other provocations do not stop, he we give order to counterattack:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1474133403

4. Oh, and IMF gave the Ukrainian regime some money ($1 billion now and $1.5 billion presumably later in November after the US elections, if Killary wins) - to help keep Poroshenko in power at least until the US elections are over. Poroshenko is most likely to put 90% into his pocket and send the remaining 10% toward the genocide of the Donbass population.

[Nemo1024]

They say "a picture says more than a thousand words"....

"They" are wrong on this account as brilliantly demonstrated in the following Lada Ray article:

Distorted Mirror! Protesting Ukraine Grannies Hold Mirrors to Show Police Who They’ve Become?
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/true-or-false-ukraine-grannies-bring-mirrors-to-protest-to-show-police-who-theyve-become/

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I have received this email from one of my supporters. I’ll keep it anonymous, however, I am sure he will approve of me publishing his nameless comment because I know he is after the real, honest truth as much as I am.

‘Thought this was astoundingly brilliant for these Ukrainian ladies to use mirrors like this. I felt you’d like to see this.

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Now, let me begin by saying that there is a falsehood I detect in these images from the get-go. I think those who published this article either don’t know the background or seek to manipulate it for their own agenda, either knowingly or unknowingly.

Here’s why: they didn’t tell the truth about the origin of these images, and for a good reason, because, as I suspect, they may have been taken during violent attack on the Russian embassy during yesterday’s elections. This is illegal by international law and in a normal world it would have caused severe condemnation of Ukraine by the international community. But in our warped world, it is somehow lauded as a ‘protest’ in the West, both by MSM and – it turns out – by alternative media.

They don’t say which protest exactly these images are from. But since the last such event were attacks on the Russian embassy in Kiev and on the Russian consulate in Odessa, it’s very possible at least some of these are from yesterday, Sunday, September 18, 2016 violent protest by Svoboda party ukro-fascists at the Russian embassy in Kiev. Even if they are not: I have seen yesterday’s videos in which similar grannies and grandpas spat at police and yelled at them: ‘I hate you, you sold out for Poroshenko’s chocolates.’ Note that this is being yelled at police because they are protecting Russian embassy from destruction and voters from being beaten up.

Kiev junta and ukro-nazis of all kinds, including Kiev Rada deputies, did everything yesterday to prevent Russian citizens residing in Ukraine from voting in Russian elections. They wouldn’t let them through, tried to damage the embassy and beat people up. Most voters were too afraid to come near the embassy.

It has to be noted that threats against voters and failure of a host country to protect the embassy and foreign voters during election in any country is considered international crime. We live in a very international world and most countries have expats. There are 80,000 Russian citizens in Ukraine. How they came to be is another story and I’ll explain that in the upcoming ESR on Russian Elections 2016.

Kiev first attempted to ban Russian elections on Ukrainian territory and announced that no protection would be granted. After pressure by EU and Russia, Kiev reluctantly dispatched police for Russian embassy’s protection. These policemen, who just stood there, whose job it was to protect voters and embassy of a foreign state, were subjected to extreme insults by ‘protesters.’ Even more grave insults were hurled at Russia, including calls to ‘destroy Russia and kill all Russians’ and statements that ‘there is no such thing as Russia.’

I have to say that police did a half hearted job in Kiev, and one of the reasons was because grannies and burly thugs alike attacked and shamed them.

Just like with 2014 Kiev coup, grannies were there for the MSM pictures, as a PR stunt. The real dirty work was done by burly militants.

I am preparing a full Earth Shift Report about Russian Elections 2016, which I’ll publish around this Wednesday. In the report, you’ll be able to see videos and pics of the crazy mayhem that went on in Ukraine yesterday, as opposed to how civilized the vote was all over Russia and all over the world.

Sorry to tell you: these poor confused grannies are just convenient dupes for the Western propaganda. They are the ones who facilitated, and continue doing so, fascism in Ukraine.

The video included in the above-linked article, which incidentally has already been deleted, reads in Ukrainian: ‘Defenders of Berkut, watch this video and shut up forever.’ Based on the ‘brilliant’ and ‘highly sophisticated’ language I can tell you that the video comes from either ‘right sector’ or Svoboda ukro-nazis.

Berkut was the special police called in to calm down the 2014 Kiev Maidan. Berkut was given order by then president Yanukovich to just stand there and not respond, while being beaten up and set on fire by West-trained, pumped up with heavy drugs ukro-nazi thugs.

Back then these kinds of grannies were at the Maidan as well. They protested in 2014 because their pensions were meager and because they were duped by the EU and their oligarch-controlled MSM into believing in the EU fairytale. They were told: the moment they join the EU their pensions will be on par with European and they will all be given free BMWs and villas on the Mediterranean. If you think I am joking – nope, I’m dead serious. This was Ukraine propaganda in 2012-2014.

Now, after the 2014 ukro-nazi coup, with Kiev junta and Poroshenko/US occupational forces in power, grivna has gone through the floor, country is teetering on the verge of default, pensions and salaries are a tiny fraction of what they were in 2013 under dreaded Yanukovich. These poor grannies simply can’t survive after electricity/heating rates shot up by 25 times in some places, and the cost of food and medicine has gone through the roof. Meanwhile, the Kiev propaganda blames for this disaster not their own failures, but – who else! The convenient villain catch-all, Russia and Putin.

These grannies are like the Luddites, who destroyed machines at factories during UK industrialization because they were unhappy with their lives and confused as to who to blame for their exploitation. These frustrated grannies should be protesting and dealing with the oligarchs in power, plus foreign occupation of the country by the US/Canada/West. They should be protesting those who get rich off the bloody civil war and bombing of civilians in Donbass.

They should be throwing out of their cushy offices those who caused a breakup with Russia, resulting in a systemic destruction of Ukraine’s economy and loss of sorely needed 15bln in profits from Russian trade. They should be demanding their sold-out puppet government to be replaced with those who genuinely love Ukraine and who would work on restoring good relations and economic ties with Russia – the only country that can help Ukraine get up from its knees.

But they don’t see their own image in the mirror. They are incapable of seeing the truth without distortions. To them, someone else has to be blamed for their lost hope to ‘join EU and live like Europeans.’ For their brains, completely zombified by Kiev propaganda and feeling the humiliation from Crimea and Donbass leaving Ukraine, Russia is the arch-enemy.

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