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February 27, 2012, 08:37:45 PM
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I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on Shocked

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February 28, 2012, 05:09:24 PM
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I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on Shocked

I found a block today too.

Would be nice to see the block # users have found!

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February 29, 2012, 09:56:21 AM
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I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on :o
I found a block today too.
Would be nice to see the block # users have found!
"Your" block is marked in bold text at the stats page.

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February 29, 2012, 09:59:35 AM
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[Tycho] and/or Deepbit,
Will you be posting a notice prior to implementing BIP16 voting?
Yes, a notice will be posted.
I think that I'll have to implement it in next month, but at least now you are still safe from BIP16 :)

Actually I'm a bit worried that the percentage of BIP16-supporters stopped growing.

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February 29, 2012, 10:02:26 AM
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Some instant payments were delayed in the last hour, this is already fixed and you may request your payment again.
I hope no one noticed this short interruption :)

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February 29, 2012, 02:29:55 PM
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I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on Shocked
I found a block today too.
Would be nice to see the block # users have found!
"Your" block is marked in bold text at the stats page.

I'm aware of this  Wink Its just a matter of after that day is long past, you can't go back and see which blocks you found

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February 29, 2012, 04:15:28 PM
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I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on :o
I found a block today too.
Would be nice to see the block # users have found!
"Your" block is marked in bold text at the stats page.
I'm aware of this  ;) Its just a matter of after that day is long past, you can't go back and see which blocks you found
Actually you CAN go back all the way :)

As for showing block numbers - technically it's possible, but there is no real purpose for this. All blocks are pretty much the same anyway.

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February 29, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
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Actually you CAN go back all the way Smiley

As for showing block numbers - technically it's possible, but there is no real purpose for this. All blocks are pretty much the same anyway.

Stats by date only lists 5 dates. I see no other obvious way to browse further back.

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February 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
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Actually you CAN go back all the way Smiley

As for showing block numbers - technically it's possible, but there is no real purpose for this. All blocks are pretty much the same anyway.

Stats by date only lists 5 dates. I see no other obvious way to browse further back.

Just keep subtracting 86400 off the number for each day.  86400 seconds = 24 hours.
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March 02, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
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The recent Linode hack scandal is a sign that we DO need multisignature support for Bitcoin. It would help increase the security of Bitcoin usage to a whole other level. Tycho, the community is waiting for your move.

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March 02, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
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The recent Linode hack scandal is a sign that we DO need multisignature support for Bitcoin. It would help increase the security of Bitcoin usage to a whole other level. Tycho, the community is waiting for your move.

I thought we were waiting for April 1st now? And also on this very page Tycho has said "Yes, a notice will be posted. I think that I'll have to implement it in next month..."
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March 02, 2012, 02:30:56 PM
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I thought we were waiting for April 1st now? And also on this very page Tycho has said "Yes, a notice will be posted. I think that I'll have to implement it in next month..."
It doesn't work quite like that. The next check for P2SH support is March 15th, at that point the last 1000 blocks need to show at least 55% (550 blocks) support. If there is 55% support, the change will be scheduled for April 1st. Most likely there will be a rolling 2-week window which means that the support will be checked every two weeks. So Tycho would need to add support within days for the March 15th check to go through, otherwise the earliest check to pass is April 1st and then P2SH would be enabled probably 15th of April.

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March 02, 2012, 06:04:09 PM
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I'n beginner when it comes to mining and choose mining on deepbit and have couple of questions:

1. I have proportional mining and have 1380Mhash according Guiminer, according http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php I should be getting 28bitcoins/month.
But I have now mined 24/7 for a couple of days and according my own calculations I'm about 20bitcoins/month this calculation is confirmed by the deepbit site which says I have 0.65bitcoins last 24h.

What could cause me mining 20bitcoins instead of 28bitcoins with 1380mhash?

2. My understanding is that the proportional mining takes 3% fee, considering deepbit has wery high pool rate my understanding is usually the variance should be low on mined bitcoinst in relation to my mhash, so it should be around 28bitcoins?

3. Besides the 3% fee are there other fee's aswell?
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March 02, 2012, 06:17:25 PM
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I'n beginner when it comes to mining and choose mining on deepbit and have couple of questions:

1. I have proportional mining and have 1380Mhash according Guiminer, according http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php I should be getting 28bitcoins/month.
But I have now mined 24/7 for a couple of days and according my own calculations I'm about 20bitcoins/month this calculation is confirmed by the deepbit site which says I have 0.65bitcoins last 24h.

What could cause me mining 20bitcoins instead of 28bitcoins with 1380mhash?

2. My understanding is that the proportional mining takes 3% fee, considering deepbit has wery high pool rate my understanding is usually the variance should be low on mined bitcoinst in relation to my mhash, so it should be around 28bitcoins?

3. Besides the 3% fee are there other fee's aswell?

Well, I'm just guessing, but we just had a difficulty increase and the so called "luck" on deepbit has been bad the last couple of days.  I don't know if that would make up your 8 BTC difference or not.

I wouldn't try to extrapolate into the future but rather track an entire difficulty period and see how that measures with your expectation.
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Well, I'm just guessing, but we just had a difficulty increase and the so called "luck" on deepbit has been bad the last couple of days.  I don't know if that would make up your 8 BTC difference or not.

I wouldn't try to extrapolate into the future but rather track an entire difficulty period and see how that measures with your expectation.
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I'm still new and learning, so I guess there is a luck factor with all pools including deepbit, so this could explain why my average bitcoins/month is 20 instead of 28?
So with neutral luck my 1380mhash should get 28bitcoins/month but couple of bad days of luck it shows as 20bitcoins?

Also my calculations was based on last difficulty (1496978) so that should not explain 20bitcoins vs 28bitcoins
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Well, I'm just guessing, but we just had a difficulty increase and the so called "luck" on deepbit has been bad the last couple of days.  I don't know if that would make up your 8 BTC difference or not.

I wouldn't try to extrapolate into the future but rather track an entire difficulty period and see how that measures with your expectation.
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I'm still new and learning, so I guess there is a luck factor with all pools including deepbit, so this could explain why my average bitcoins/month is 20 instead of 28?
So with neutral luck my 1380mhash should get 28bitcoins/month but couple of bad days of luck it shows as 20bitcoins?

Also my calculations was based on last difficulty (1496978) so that should not explain 20bitcoins vs 28bitcoins

Well your at almost a 30% disparity.  I'm not sure what your calculator is using for the basis, I would assume it is using the difficulty to calculate it.  When the luck figure comes back up on the stats page you may be able to see how your mileage is varying a little better.  But anyway I would say the luck is a partial reason for your difference.  These income calculations are only estimates and you shouldn't count on their accuracy.

I hadn't paid attention to the actual difficulty, it seems that it was a very minor increase if your difficulty of 1496978 is what it was.
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March 02, 2012, 08:07:29 PM
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How is that private team join code coming along?
I was not sure if someone is interested in that.
Will try to do something.

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March 02, 2012, 08:11:07 PM
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I'n beginner when it comes to mining and choose mining on deepbit and have couple of questions:

1. I have proportional mining and have 1380Mhash according Guiminer, according http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php I should be getting 28bitcoins/month.
But I have now mined 24/7 for a couple of days and according my own calculations I'm about 20bitcoins/month this calculation is confirmed by the deepbit site which says I have 0.65bitcoins last 24h.

What could cause me mining 20bitcoins instead of 28bitcoins with 1380mhash?

2. My understanding is that the proportional mining takes 3% fee, considering deepbit has wery high pool rate my understanding is usually the variance should be low on mined bitcoinst in relation to my mhash, so it should be around 28bitcoins?

3. Besides the 3% fee are there other fee's aswell?
1. Yes, our variance is pretty low, but even at this size it can swing to ±30% daily. Usually it averages out in a few days.
For example, during the last 2 weeks our average luck was somewhere about 4% better than expected.
You aren't "mining 20 bitcoins" unless you tried to mine all the month.

2. No, there are no other fees.

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March 02, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
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The recent Linode hack scandal is a sign that we DO need multisignature support for Bitcoin. It would help increase the security of Bitcoin usage to a whole other level. Tycho, the community is waiting for your move.
1. We already have multisignature support in the protocol and in reality. For example, you can create multisignature transactions with blockchain.info's online wallet.
Current "official" client doesn't supports sending multisignature TXes from the GUI.

2. I think that you are talking about P2SH, not multisignatures. Yes, I'm working on it and it's possible that I'll deploy it in next month. I still think that BIP16 is a dirty hack and don't WANT to support it. But it may be necessary to implement because of Gavin.

3. No, the P2SH will not make Linode-like incidents impossible. Not even close.
Yes, it's possible to set up a combination of countermeasures that can make payments more safe, but P2SH won't be that important.
If the system is ready to make automatic payments then anyone with root access can repeat same actions to steal money unless the pool operator manually approves each transaction with his second key.

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March 02, 2012, 09:09:13 PM
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3. No, the P2SH will not make Linode-like incidents impossible. Not even close.
Yes, it's possible to set up a combination of countermeasures that can make payments more safe, but P2SH won't be that important.
If the system is ready to make automatic payments then anyone with root access can repeat same actions to steal money unless the pool operator manually approves each transaction with his second key.
Or, a second server in another location could approve payments with the second key, after doing sanity checking on transactions beforehand.

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