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May 26, 2012, 02:03:42 AM
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We're almost half way through this difficulty.  Shouldn't there be enough data for the average and luck calculation to be present under the stat's page again?
Sorry, I accidentally the whole luckmeter while working on that round duration timer :)
Fixed.

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May 26, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
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PS. And also - this is easily could be verified - first deepbit could review shares and find that they are a bit different from regular miners - as there's only specific subset of work processed because of 82/128 core design (each core processes parts of nonces). Also you could see that bitfury.org really has working hashing power, and not some kind of talks. Actually shares and method of getting work could be easily identified by freq. analysis of some bits of nonce.

You're not the only one that doesn't process the full nonce Smiley

All Icarus on cgminer up to 2.4.1 will only reply with nonce values approx 0x00000000-0x5AExxxxx and 0x80000000-0xDAExxxxx
(i.e. stop at ~71% on each of the 2 devices)

Though my pull request after 2.4.1 (that should be in the next version) puts it closer to the finish line a bit over 99%

As you clearly know, though others may not that read this, I'll state the obvious that:
early abort of the nonce range does not change any share/block probability or expectation.

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May 26, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
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Since block 181666, "block durations" in the pool stats page are going bananas one more time. Smiley

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May 26, 2012, 08:11:11 PM
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why "Difficulty history" hasn't been updated any more?
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May 28, 2012, 08:06:05 AM
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Hi,

I have question about stale shares:

As far as I gather, when someone found a new block after I submit my share, it consider stale and wated. Now the real question, how is getting paid for those stale shares?

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May 28, 2012, 09:13:20 AM
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As far as I gather, when someone found a new block after I submit my share, it consider stale and wated. Now the real question, how is getting paid for those stale shares?
Stale shares are not accepted by the pool.

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May 28, 2012, 08:03:26 PM
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As far as I gather, when someone found a new block after I submit my share, it consider stale and wated. Now the real question, how is getting paid for those stale shares?
Stale shares are not accepted by the pool.

Not accepted then why is a notion on website?
What's invalid bocks and when it become invalid?

So far I got less than 7% to stale share to my worker place, what is this?

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May 28, 2012, 09:06:31 PM
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Stale shares are not accepted by the pool.
Not accepted then why is a notion on website?
Stale shares percentage depends on used mining software, hardware, network connection quality and other parameters, so it's very useful to know how many shares were stale.

What's invalid bocks and when it become invalid?
Invalid block is a part of orphaned blockchain branch, no reward is given to the pool for it, but some pools (including DeepBit) still pay users for the "wasted" round anyway.

So far I got less than 7% to stale share to my worker place, what is this?
It means that 7% of your submitted shares were discarded as stale. Expected stale percentage for normal miners is less than 1%, so your mining setup is not optimal. May be you are trying to use VERY old mining software or trying to mine with your CPU instead of GPU.
Not enough information to find out the cause yet.

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May 29, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
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Time/Link   Found in Your   Total   Reward
29.05 12:09:48   1h 35m     10   12601     0.0xxx
29.05 12:05:19   1h 30m     8   7930     0.0xxx
29.05 12:00:23   1h 25m     750   984518     0.0xxx

The amount of my shares compared to the pool seems very odd when looking
at the amount of time to solve a block for the last two blocks.

Did something just recently change? And yes I read back a few pages of this
thread but did not find anything related.
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May 29, 2012, 07:28:23 PM
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the "found in" calculations are totally wrong! Shocked
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May 29, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
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Time/Link   Found in Your   Total   Reward
29.05 12:09:48   1h 35m     10   12601     0.0xxx
29.05 12:05:19   1h 30m     8   7930     0.0xxx
29.05 12:00:23   1h 25m     750   984518     0.0xxx

The amount of my shares compared to the pool seems very odd when looking
at the amount of time to solve a block for the last two blocks.

Did something just recently change? And yes I read back a few pages of this
thread but did not find anything related.
No, nothing was changed. Shares should be accounted correctly.
Are you sure that your timezone is set ?

the "found in" calculations are totally wrong! :o
Yes, still not fixed. It doesn't affects anything, just check the block timestamp instead of "found in" until this issue is resolved.

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May 29, 2012, 11:48:43 PM
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Time/Link   Found in Your   Total   Reward
29.05 12:09:48   1h 35m     10   12601     0.0xxx
29.05 12:05:19   1h 30m     8   7930     0.0xxx
29.05 12:00:23   1h 25m     750   984518     0.0xxx

The amount of my shares compared to the pool seems very odd when looking
at the amount of time to solve a block for the last two blocks.

Did something just recently change? And yes I read back a few pages of this
thread but did not find anything related.
No, nothing was changed. Shares should be accounted correctly.
Are you sure that your timezone is set ?

the "found in" calculations are totally wrong! Shocked
Yes, still not fixed. It doesn't affects anything, just check the block timestamp instead of "found in" until this issue is resolved.

I should have said found in was wrong like the other person. I said shares looked wrong due to found in being so long yet i had few shares. Reward is normal. Time zone set correctly. Sounds like known issue popping up again. Thanks
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May 30, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
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29.05 20:44:35   9h 10m    7500   9474710     0.0xxx
29.05 17:38:53   6h 04m    1233   2379184     0.0xxx
29.05 17:10:31   5h 36m    2274   2575146     0.0xxx
29.05 16:14:51   4h 40m    743   1066043     0.0xxx
29.05 15:59:12   4h 24m    539   825492     0.0xxx
29.05 15:48:50   4h 14m    212   289992     0.0xxx
29.05 15:43:06   4h 09m    3887   6744061     0.0xxx

something is wrong xD
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May 30, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
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something is wrong xD
This was mentioned a few times already.
A temporary fix was implemented now :)

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May 30, 2012, 08:36:20 PM
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something is wrong xD
This was mentioned a few times already.
A temporary fix was implemented now Smiley

Sorry and thanks xD...

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May 30, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
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something is wrong xD
This was mentioned a few times already.
A temporary fix was implemented now Smiley
Did this fix cause the "found in" block times on the stats page to all show nulls?

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May 30, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
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something is wrong xD
This was mentioned a few times already.
A temporary fix was implemented now Smiley
Did this fix cause the "found in" block times on the stats page to all show nulls?

Haha Tycho you so funny.
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May 31, 2012, 12:48:51 AM
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This was mentioned a few times already.
A temporary fix was implemented now :)
Did this fix cause the "found in" block times on the stats page to all show nulls?
Yes, it prevents wrong data from being displayed.
Round timer will be enabled again after appropriate repairs.

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May 31, 2012, 07:35:23 AM
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Round timer will be enabled again after appropriate repairs.

Have to say, Im perplexed and mildly amused by the irony; you seem to have no problems keeping the biggest pool up with basically zero down time, extremely low stales etc, yet calculating the difference between two times on a webpage is a problem that takes months and countless attempts to fix? I would assume you store those date/times as unixtime in the database, and its literally as simple as subtracting 2 numbers and applying strftime to the result  Huh

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May 31, 2012, 09:30:25 AM
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I would assume you store those date/times as unixtime in the database, and its literally as simple as subtracting 2 numbers and applying strftime to the result  ???
Yes, subtracting two numbers is easy, but first I have to find some elusive glitch that causes round end time to be missed in stats counter.
Of course I can just subtract block timestamps that are always correct and get stats table instantly fixed, but this way I won't find the cause of that glitch.

Sorry for the inconvenience, I hope to solve this problem today.

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