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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1454936 times)
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May 11, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
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I'm looking at the pie @ bitcoin watch and it looks wierd...

BTC guild with pool speed of 1,591.79 Gh/sec is taking 15% of the pie.
Deepbit with pool speed of 3,198.49 Gh/sec is taking 18% of the pie.
Unknown is 37% of the pie.
Use this.
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/chart.php

I'm pretty sure the bitcoin watch chart is accurate, but it's because I [believe] they're using the 24 hour chart from blockchain.info .  BTC Guild had a -massive- surge of luck in the last 12 hours [after a day of bad luck].

It's just the nature of mining and luck.  Tycho's charts are less jumpy, due to using a 2016 block window [roughly 2 weeks], which make them a much more accurate number if you're trying to compare reported speed of pools to their block find %.

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May 11, 2012, 07:32:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure the bitcoin watch chart is accurate, but it's because I [believe] they're using the 24 hour chart from blockchain.info .  BTC Guild had a -massive- surge of luck in the last 12 hours [after a day of bad luck].

It's just the nature of mining and luck.  Tycho's charts are less jumpy, due to using a 2016 block window [roughly 2 weeks], which make them a much more accurate number if you're trying to compare reported speed of pools to their block find %.
Actually I recommend that site for another reason:
Blockchaininfo is trying to guess block origin from possible broadcasting source IP address and blockorigin.pfoe.be is using real data.

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May 11, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure the bitcoin watch chart is accurate, but it's because I [believe] they're using the 24 hour chart from blockchain.info .  BTC Guild had a -massive- surge of luck in the last 12 hours [after a day of bad luck].

It's just the nature of mining and luck.  Tycho's charts are less jumpy, due to using a 2016 block window [roughly 2 weeks], which make them a much more accurate number if you're trying to compare reported speed of pools to their block find %.
Actually I recommend that site for another reason:
Blockchaininfo is trying to guess block origin from possible broadcasting source IP address and blockorigin.pfoe.be is using real data.

Yes, I forgot to mention that reason as well.  Blockchain.info has been getting more accurate, though blockorigin.pfoe.be doesn't make any assumptions when assigning blocks to pools which is certainly preferred to 'best guess'.

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May 11, 2012, 09:06:08 PM
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Can I mine on this pool with cgminer?

I tried connecting but it says it is dead.

I tried username: "username_worker" and just "username" neither get connection.
your username is your email address right, like email@addres.com_worker

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May 13, 2012, 09:51:57 PM
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Having a weird issue that just started:


All of my miners all of a sudden without any change to my network started returning the following error:

pit.deepbit.net:8332, Deepbit.lib.InfoException: getWork unknown responce: Full(null)


The same error repeats every second.


Any ideas? Was working fine on all miners for awhile now without error, maybe something serverside?




EDIT:

Backonline, problem auto-resolved it seemed.

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May 14, 2012, 10:56:51 AM
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Damn, 3251 Gh/s? This is scaring me.
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May 14, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
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7700 MH/s = 3.4 BTC/24h = Sad

edit: awh yea, block 180133 was a good one, now i'm at 4.45 BTC/24h yaay!

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May 14, 2012, 10:15:05 PM
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Does your pool allow for all 8 decimal places of a wallet balance to be withdrawn if an account is closed?
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May 15, 2012, 12:45:43 AM
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Does your pool allow for all 8 decimal places of a wallet balance to be withdrawn if an account is closed?
You can request a manual payment with full precision if your balance is at least 0.01 BTC or more - just enter the required amount.

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May 15, 2012, 03:22:33 AM
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I may be missing something here.  but the blockchain info does not jive with the deepbit transaction page..

not accusing..  just curious, i know i dont know something.

blockchain.info

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180182 (Main chain) 2012-05-15 01:28:48 00000000000006220ad8fa93d083cf140fe354aa9dbc514c49a3927f15b3c92f Deepbit 13 5.87
180181 (Main chain) 2012-05-15 01:25:30 000000000000085ac97c51cbc08242114f2d7906a45d9e519719ce836e19f581 Deepbit 169 79.79
180180 (Main chain) 2012-05-15 01:36:29 00000000000005e73c77bf82a2fca55d6bf6fcf71d806e1b1758ce0409b7713a Deepbit 116 73.47
180179 (Main chain) 2012-05-15 01:11:46 000000000000009743ecaf0e954afc3d1ee59cebbeb47e22d32bb4f6db52cc17 P2Pool 596 247.65
180178 (Main chain) 2012-05-15 00:53:39 000000000000095ef9d08fd4865082704ee691bf1ae1ae5c427060d0f9a96fb3 Deepbit 122 48.01

deepbit transactions has the top 2 blocks as   180178  and 180182.   what happened to 180 and 181 ?
Code:
14.05 21:29:22 0h 35m 16241 1596455  0.49339850
14.05 20:53:57 0h 54m 30936 2433274  0.61661613

edit:  looks like 180 came after 182:  2012-05-15 01:36:29  but 181 came before: 2012-05-15 01:25:30

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May 15, 2012, 10:33:23 AM
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I may be missing something here.  but the blockchain info does jive with the deepbit transaction page..
not accusing..  just curious, i know i dont know something.
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I said this many times already, even at the previous page: blockchaininfo's info may be incorrect as this is just a guess based on p2p propagation of new blocks.
Check http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php for REAL data.

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May 15, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
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I may be missing something here.  but the blockchain info does jive with the deepbit transaction page..
not accusing..  just curious, i know i dont know something.
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I said this many times already, even at the previous page: blockchaininfo's info may be incorrect as this is just a guess based on p2p propagation of new blocks.
Check http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php for REAL data.

I did not know I couldn't trust the blockchain.info.
I rarely have need of coming here...  you pool is almost ALWAYS up and working stable...   

kudos for that sir!

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May 16, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
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We're almost half way through this difficulty.  Shouldn't there be enough data for the average and luck calculation to be present under the stat's page again?
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May 22, 2012, 05:00:57 PM
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Who is the new guy at teams 2nd place with 180 Gh/s solo?

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May 22, 2012, 05:38:05 PM
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Who is the new guy at teams 2nd place with 180 Gh/s solo?

Dunno about 180 GH/s but Amazingrando had around 120 GH/s pointed at MaxBTC.com for a while, and I don't think that was his entire farm either.

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May 22, 2012, 06:50:59 PM
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Who is the new guy at teams 2nd place with 180 Gh/s solo?

Dunno about 180 GH/s but Amazingrando had around 120 GH/s pointed at MaxBTC.com for a while, and I don't think that was his entire farm either.

Team 'bitfury.org' 185 Gh/s and they showed up today.

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May 23, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
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my payment from deepbit last night never got confirmed?  still says zero/unconfirmed and it's been like that for 6 hours or so.  I cashed out another smaller payment and that one got confirmed but the previous one still not.  I upgraded to 0.6.2 on the weekend, could this be a flaw in the new version?

edit: it finally confirmed 12 hours later!  it's a christmas miracle!

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May 25, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
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my payment from deepbit last night never got confirmed?  still says zero/unconfirmed and it's been like that for 6 hours or so.  I cashed out another smaller payment and that one got confirmed but the previous one still not.  I upgraded to 0.6.2 on the weekend, could this be a flaw in the new version?

edit: it finally confirmed 12 hours later!  it's a christmas miracle!

Having a similar problem, but my transaction isn't even coming up as 0 confirmations, its showing as it doesn't even exist even though deepbit has it listed on my payment page.


Have a payment made at 25.05.2012 04:00 for 1.64BTC, hasn't shown up in my wallet yet, don't even see it in my transactions in my wallet waiting to be confirmed. Made a different transaction of a lesser amount 0.31 BTC and that went through right away....

Not sure whats up.... Any clues on what to do in this situation?

EDIT: Just checked block explorer yet it is not showing me any information relating to the payment as listed on deepbit =/.


A screenshot of my last 3 payments on the deepbit payment page:

The one for .19 went through, the one for .31 went through, yet when i try and find the 1.64 on the block explorer listing for my address I see nothing: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1DkgyE1AH7DiD18cVPVPNAfv8iTfXUoLix

When I click on the transaction details link on the left side of the wallet address, for the 1.64 BTC transaction (the link where the date is) I am sent to http://blockexplorer.com/tx/fa48e608ba54451d8d07173ed3eec27867eaa9cc607b0a886a287fa13c01e35d

which tells me, error, no such transaction. What is odd, the same message appears for the .31BTC transfer which I have already received: http://blockexplorer.com/tx/75b36c0072582ce06e7664a92d3fb26dfa8287e03788038b77bc92b43698d841

but the .19 BTC transfer seems to have a propr transaction detail page and that one seems to have gone smoothly:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/0fc945d2c75c0d45b22230557c2589b7f1088a5d6237699a3b19ec0caaa0f23e


Any help would be appriciated, no settings have been changed or anything, been running without problems for a while now, so im not sure exactly what/who to do/contact about this at this point. Any ideas? The only thing I can think of was that one that is missing was an automatic threshold payment while the other ones were payments I made by pressing the button. Not sure why that would affect anything, but thats one difference I realized between the payments (shouldn't affect receving it on my end though as I have been receiving payments through the automated threshold system for some time now without error).

Anyways, hopefully this gets some exposure. Will check back later today, hopefully there's some suggestions on steps to take to try and find out the status of that missing 1.64 BTC.

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May 25, 2012, 08:50:29 PM
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Having a similar problem, but my transaction isn't even coming up as 0 confirmations, its showing as it doesn't even exist even though deepbit has it listed on my payment page.
If you see your transaction in the payments list, you can be sure that it was created by our payments node.

Have a payment made at 25.05.2012 04:00 for 1.64BTC, hasn't shown up in my wallet yet, don't even see it in my transactions in my wallet waiting to be confirmed. Made a different transaction of a lesser amount 0.31 BTC and that went through right away...
Sometimes (rarely) our mining nodes don't recognize some transaction as "ours" and don't give them appropriate priority, so a "chain" of unconfirmed TXes is created and coming slower than usual.
Your payment will reach you, just a bit later.

EDIT: Just checked block explorer yet it is not showing me any information relating to the payment as listed on deepbit =/.
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What is odd, the same message appears for the .31BTC transfer which I have already received: http://blockexplorer.com/tx/75b36c0072582ce06e7664a92d3fb26dfa8287e03788038b77bc92b43698d841
BBE is a very good service, but it's not ideal. Sometimes it can receive blocks and TXes with some delay too.
As our help page says, BBE will show your TX only after 1) it gets at least one confirmation, 2) this confirmation block is received by BBE.

I checked your TX here: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/6758803/fa48e608ba54451d8d07173ed3eec27867eaa9cc607b0a886a287fa13c01e35d
And it says that your payment already got 35 confirmations.

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May 26, 2012, 01:29:37 AM
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Who is the new guy at teams 2nd place with 180 Gh/s solo?

Dunno about 180 GH/s but Amazingrando had around 120 GH/s pointed at MaxBTC.com for a while, and I don't think that was his entire farm either.

Team 'bitfury.org' 185 Gh/s and they showed up today.

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Hmm so bitfury might have quite a bit of incentive in this FPGA vs ASIC discussion Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg915037#msg915037
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That's FPGA-based solution...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82941.0

Possibly we started new way - not mining rig, but a 42U mining rack :-)))))) A few racks only however... But there will be much more, not racks however, but 4-U devices producing gigahashes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83332.0

Soon I'll do some modelling about that future device, that can be used @ home and @ DC. And very soon production will start. Looking for ppl interested in first 500 chips (actually possible minus 220 chips because I have already some requests). And even more interested in those who will help us to sell. And also, right now you can take part in this development. However - very very soon - on 1-5 June it will be deadline for updates. So if you want some features, better to write about them right now, or it will be too late for first units. As every PCB/chassis redesign costs money, it is unlikely that we will be doing this every time.

Dunno what to say about ASICs vs FPGA... About ASICs - I've told in other topics, that doing really nice ASIC
would be difficult... And that such difficulty is well beyond to best our bitstream up to date for Spartan6 chips.

If someone would do Altera Hardcopy for example, that could be difficult to match against 28-nm upcoming chips. Well,
of course if you count in price of resulting chips also NRE costs invested... If counting just chip prices without NRE costs - then ASICs would look nice... But that's like counting video boards installed, not counting motherboards and electricity consumed in mining... So while these ASIC vs FPGA debate go - we do what we do, and it is definitely better than debating... If at moment of FPGA release, there will be massive FPGA installations and like +3 Th/s with Spartans, and then +7 - 12 Th/s on 28-nm FPGAs potential in the future, that would be nice countermeasure against ASIC deployment.

Going at first to lower $ / Mh/s rate for FPGA to levels of $0.60 without VAT. However if someone would manage implementing ASIC like implemented in ATI/AMD chips for example - that would be killer for FPGA, but that's unlikely for next year for sure, as there very few FPGA developers started to get here, and zero elite ASIC developers.

What's good with ASIC/FPGA solution - is that you can put several racks in your house basement and get significant hash rates. Also you can produce and use heat in useful manner. Currently with these two racks you can do that:

orion .bitcoin $ egrep 'CBlock|height' debug.log | grep CBlock -A 1
CBlock(hash=00000000000004e4e1ec, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=00000000000002544a75, hashMerkleRoot=70af1890ee, nTime=1337926615, nBits=1a0a8b5f, nNonce=3066984747, vtx=299)
SetBestChain: new best=00000000000004e4e1ec  height=181502  work=333956803896197172810
--
CBlock(hash=00000000000005a4b5c3, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=00000000000000932258, hashMerkleRoot=9060425c62, nTime=1337938808, nBits=1a0a8b5f, nNonce=604793349, vtx=487)
SetBestChain: new best=00000000000005a4b5c3  height=181519  work=334072977122612445984
--
CBlock(hash=000000000000075be0b9, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=000000000000053744b0, hashMerkleRoot=31f4bf86c4, nTime=1337963994, nBits=1a0a8b5f, nNonce=3201488052, vtx=414)
SetBestChain: new best=000000000000075be0b9  height=181545  work=334250653821835804956

That's also answers questions - why we tried moving hashing power to deepbit. As you see we have found third block.... but on block chain there's different block... and that is annoying :-)))) We'll first investigate and then apply patch to this issue :-))))

But first fixing internet connection to level, when there will be constant hash output rate without any glitches, and then investigate what happens on the level of network protocol with modified bitcoind and a few monitoring nodes.

Hopefully I've answered question in proper topic.

PS. And also - this is easily could be verified - first deepbit could review shares and find that they are a bit different from regular miners - as there's only specific subset of work processed because of 82/128 core design (each core processes parts of nonces). Also you could see that bitfury.org really has working hashing power, and not some kind of talks. Actually shares and method of getting work could be easily identified by freq. analysis of some bits of nonce.

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