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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1601095 times)
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April 28, 2011, 08:48:05 PM
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I don't think that this may happen at all.
PM me your login name.
Are you using PPS or Proportional mode ? If it's proportional does the history column shows the correct value ?
I'm sure it was 0.7, but history shows .042.
Your payments page shows that you had two transactions today and both already reached your wallet.
Why are you saying that no coins were sent ?

History column shows 0.41 BTC proportional reward and 0.44 BTC is what you received.

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April 28, 2011, 09:45:10 PM
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Your payments page shows that you had two transactions today and both already reached your wallet.
Why are you saying that no coins were sent ?

History column shows 0.41 BTC proportional reward and 0.44 BTC is what you received.

Yes, but my balance showed 0.7 last night, and when I woke up, before I did any transactions, it was showing 0.2.
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April 28, 2011, 10:30:11 PM
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your pool luck is really, really sucking right now ... +35%.

I thought you said somewhere that it can't get worse than +15%?

Is it time to consider that someone is performing the "hide the golden ticket" attack on your pool?

How would we know other than sucky lucky?

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April 28, 2011, 10:49:33 PM
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your pool luck is really, really sucking right now ... +35%.
I thought you said somewhere that it can't get worse than +15%?
Is it time to consider that someone is performing the "hide the golden ticket" attack on your pool?
In theory it can be better or worse to any extent.
I'm constantly monitoring all stats and everything is running as it should.
Do you know that such attacker would need to have 35% of pool speed to do this ? That's 70 GH/s, even ArtForz can't do this yet :) The fastest users are crunching at only 2.5% of pool's speed, and there aren't many of them. I don't think that 30+ top users can cooperate in such anti-pool effort and lose their 35% (25 GH/s) too.

Cost of such attack thus would be $700 per day not to mention enormous hardware resources.

So let's crunch trought this to the brilliant future :)

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April 28, 2011, 11:34:17 PM
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your pool luck is really, really sucking right now ... +35%.
I thought you said somewhere that it can't get worse than +15%?
Is it time to consider that someone is performing the "hide the golden ticket" attack on your pool?
In theory it can be better or worse to any extent.
I'm constantly monitoring all stats and everything is running as it should.
Do you know that such attacker would need to have 35% of pool speed to do this ? That's 70 GH/s, even ArtForz can't do this yet Smiley The fastest users are crunching at only 2.5% of pool's speed, and there aren't many of them. I don't think that 30+ top users can cooperate in such anti-pool effort and lose their 35% (25 GH/s) too.

Cost of such attack thus would be $700 per day not to mention enormous hardware resources.

So let's crunch trought this to the brilliant future Smiley

If we had a break-down of total shares and blocks found per worker we would know, after a time, if anyone was diverting "golden tickets" that should be going to the pool.

As I asked for quite sometime back, if you recall. It is just in the interests of transparency.

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April 29, 2011, 12:17:49 AM
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If we had a break-down of total shares and blocks found per worker we would know, after a time, if anyone was diverting "golden tickets" that should be going to the pool.

As I asked for quite sometime back, if you recall. It is just in the interests of transparency.
Actually i'm still thinking that this would be a bit useless because ANY results distribution is possible. It's just like a table with lots of random numbers.

When I started my mining at ~22k difficulty and 900 MH/s I didn't get a block for more than 2 weeks. Does it means that i'm hiding the winning hashes ? No, that's just bad luck.

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April 29, 2011, 01:08:13 AM
Last edit: April 29, 2011, 01:23:46 AM by moa
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REDACTED:

sorry about that, had my misconceptions cleared up ... we can check it on block explorer if needs be.

feck this luck sucks.

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April 29, 2011, 01:30:11 AM
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feck this luck sucks.
You can use PPS mode while we are expreriencing bad luck.

Also, remember that we had good luck all the previous difficulty span AND current span has less deviation than that :)

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April 29, 2011, 01:47:18 AM
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Your payments page shows that you had two transactions today and both already reached your wallet.
Why are you saying that no coins were sent ?
History column shows 0.41 BTC proportional reward and 0.44 BTC is what you received.
Yes, but my balance showed 0.7 last night, and when I woke up, before I did any transactions, it was showing 0.2.
I'll check my logs, but i don't think it's possible, since the only way to decrease your balance is to get a successful payment.

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April 29, 2011, 01:33:11 PM
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Is the deepbit website down ? I can't seem to go onto it but my miners still crunching away ?
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April 29, 2011, 03:25:24 PM
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Is the deepbit website down ? I can't seem to go onto it but my miners still crunching away ?
No, works fine for me.

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April 29, 2011, 04:07:26 PM
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it could be nice if we could select pps and prop for all the workers or some of them at once without clicking so many times! Smiley

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April 29, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
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I read that you can elongate the time sample for average hash rate from 7 minutes to ~30? for accuracy

how do i do this

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April 29, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
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I read that you can elongate the time sample for average hash rate from 7 minutes to ~30? for accuracy
"Averaging window" parameter in advanced settings page.

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April 29, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
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I read that you can elongate the time sample for average hash rate from 7 minutes to ~30? for accuracy
"Averaging window" parameter in advanced settings page.

Thanks, that took care of it!

Also, found a nice signature banner Cheesy Looking gooood

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April 30, 2011, 06:45:08 AM
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-39% WTF???  Grin
it would be nice if we just get the 50% of the whole net force!
come on people  Wink

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April 30, 2011, 06:45:53 AM
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What is -39%??

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April 30, 2011, 06:49:35 AM
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-39% WTF???  Grin
it would be nice if we just get the 50% of the whole net force!
come on people  Wink

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April 30, 2011, 07:12:03 AM
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-50% !!!!!
this shows that the difficulty of the pool is 50% lower than the general difficulty Wink

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April 30, 2011, 07:18:54 AM
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deepbit has hit the motherlode  Cool

on the new difficulty too ... how long can this last i wonder?

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