rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;)

[Shatoshi]

Give that monkey a treat

[JimboToronto]

Give that monkey a treat

Or a good spanking.

[coinits]

Check this out...a lot of Elites and military getting a 'bunker' mentality. Military 'exercises' all over the USA

Zerohedge saying something big coming down:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-16/signs-elites-are-feverishly-preparing-something-big

Zerohedge really should change its name to throwasmuchshitatthewallandhopeitstickshedge. One day they may well be right. By that point they'll have become so (even more) predictable and tiresome that no one will be there to actually read it.

Versus what? CNN? Fox News? Both of those are blights on society and nothing more than government propaganda. I'll take Zerohedge & Drudge any day over the MSM.

[rpietila]

What is Zio?

It refers to the "mainstream media", all the big and small media corporations that invariably are in Zionist majority ownership and factual control, throughout the western world. If you know of any other industry more so, I'm glad to hear.

So "mainstream media" as a term is a joke, I as a white married Christian am surely more "mainstream" in my country than the media 

[tabnloz]

What is Zio?

It refers to the "mainstream media", all the big and small media corporations that invariably are in Zionist majority ownership and factual control, throughout the western world. If you know of any other industry more so, I'm glad to hear.

So "mainstream media" as a term is a joke, I as a white married Christian am surely more "mainstream" in my country than the media 

I think categorising ownership and agenda as just 'Zionist' falls short. I'd say it's more to maintain the Western power/elitist status quo. Maybe part of that is continuing support /funding for Israel? Possibly, but at that ultra 1% level power & wealth usurp religious ideals - take for example the Serb / Croat conflict where, according to Misha Glenny in McMafia, the two 'leaders, were dealing between each other (cigarettes, $$ etc) in private while espousing war in public.

[rpietila]

What is Zio?

It refers to the "mainstream media", all the big and small media corporations that invariably are in Zionist majority ownership and factual control, throughout the western world. If you know of any other industry more so, I'm glad to hear.

So "mainstream media" as a term is a joke, I as a white married Christian am surely more "mainstream" in my country than the media  

I think categorising ownership and agenda as just 'Zionist' falls short. I'd say it's more to maintain the Western power/elitist status quo. Maybe part of that is continuing support /funding for Israel? Possibly, but at that ultra 1% level power & wealth usurp religious ideals - take for example the Serb / Croat conflict where, according to Misha Glenny in McMafia, the two 'leaders, were dealing between each other (cigarettes, $$ etc) in private while espousing war in public.

Your explanation does not explain much at all.

If you think of the media, it's no different than if I owned a media. I have a certain set of beliefs I want to propagate, and the media is a tool for propagating them.

Zionists own the media, including Hollywood. It is nothing extraordinary for them to use it to further their goals. Just see what they are propagating every day in every media outlet.

(It is not a universal law that newspapers need to be full of insecurity and that type of shit. It is only that the Zionist want you to live in insecurity. I am not insecure. But I don't read their shit   )

And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

[farfiman]

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And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

We are so OT but what the hell-  Supremacy of who over whom?
The definition of Zionism is the Belief that the Jews should have the right live in the Zion (The land of Jerusalem).
Any other interpretation is wrong and based on many other beliefs (some right , some wrong).

[Erdogan]

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And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

We are so OT but what the hell-  Supremacy of who over whom?
The definition of Zionism is the Belief that the Jews should have the right live in the Zion (The land of Jerusalem).
Any other interpretation is wrong and based on many other beliefs (some right , some wrong).

Here you go. They should have the right to land that others already own. That is a supremacy ideology.

[farfiman]

...

And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

We are so OT but what the hell-  Supremacy of who over whom?
The definition of Zionism is the Belief that the Jews should have the right live in the Zion (The land of Jerusalem).
Any other interpretation is wrong and based on many other beliefs (some right , some wrong).

Here you go. They should have the right to land that others already own. That is a supremacy ideology.

Without going into the historical arguments from both sides [we will never get to the end of it ] - what does it have to do with Risto's so called Zionist takeover of the media and the world maybe? Is there such a "conspiracy" -maybe there is- but to call it Zionist is wrong- people that use that term are giving too much credit to the people that are the REAL Zionists. I'm sure one can use other terminology for such groups.

[farfiman]

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Read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and unbrainwash yourself!

That book is just as much fiction as "The Walking Dead"
Now go away.

I will not talk any more on the subject in this thread.

[Erdogan]

...

And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

We are so OT but what the hell-  Supremacy of who over whom?
The definition of Zionism is the Belief that the Jews should have the right live in the Zion (The land of Jerusalem).
Any other interpretation is wrong and based on many other beliefs (some right , some wrong).

Here you go. They should have the right to land that others already own. That is a supremacy ideology.

Without going into the historical arguments from both sides [we will never get to the end of it ] - what does it have to do with Risto's so called Zionist takeover of the media and the world maybe? Is there such a "conspiracy" -maybe there is- but to call it Zionist is wrong- people that use that term are giving too much credit to the people that are the REAL Zionists. I'm sure one can use other terminology for such groups.

Nothing, but with your "right" argument, and no arguments against the political supremacy movement part, you seem to have to agree on it.

[Erdogan]

...

And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

We are so OT but what the hell-  Supremacy of who over whom?
The definition of Zionism is the Belief that the Jews should have the right live in the Zion (The land of Jerusalem).
Any other interpretation is wrong and based on many other beliefs (some right , some wrong).

Here you go. They should have the right to land that others already own. That is a supremacy ideology.

Without going into the historical arguments from both sides [we will never get to the end of it ] - what does it have to do with Risto's so called Zionist takeover of the media and the world maybe? Is there such a "conspiracy" -maybe there is- but to call it Zionist is wrong- people that use that term are giving too much credit to the people that are the REAL Zionists. I'm sure one can use other terminology for such groups.

Nothing, but with your "right" argument, and no arguments against the political supremacy movement part, you seem to have to agree on it.

Zionism is not a "political supremacy movement," just like Communism is not a political movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel.
Nothing to discuss, please read the definition.

You too disregard the logic I just presented. The right for some to own what others already own, can only exist if there is supremacy.

[coinits]

What is Zio?

It refers to the "mainstream media", all the big and small media corporations that invariably are in Zionist majority ownership and factual control, throughout the western world. If you know of any other industry more so, I'm glad to hear.

So "mainstream media" as a term is a joke, I as a white married Christian am surely more "mainstream" in my country than the media 

I think categorising ownership and agenda as just 'Zionist' falls short. I'd say it's more to maintain the Western power/elitist status quo. Maybe part of that is continuing support /funding for Israel? Possibly, but at that ultra 1% level power & wealth usurp religious ideals - take for example the Serb / Croat conflict where, according to Misha Glenny in McMafia, the two 'leaders, were dealing between each other (cigarettes, $$ etc) in private while espousing war in public.

Your explanation does not explain much at all.

If you think of the media, it's no different than if I owned a media. I have a certain set of beliefs I want to propagate, and the media is a tool for propagating them.

Zionists own the media, including Hollywood. It is nothing extraordinary for them to use it to further their goals. Just see what they are propagating every day in every media outlet.

(It is not a universal law that newspapers need to be full of insecurity and that type of shit. It is only that the Zionist want you to live in insecurity. I am not insecure. But I don't read their shit  )

And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

Self-moderated racist rant thread? Oh! Nice touch

Shill much? Not one hint of racism so fuck off with your pathetic Libtard bullshit.

[Erdogan]

...

And the compulsory disclaimer:
Zionist != Jew. Zionists in my understanding are typically mostly not even ethnic Jews, and the supermajority of Jews certainly are not Zionists. Zionism is a purely political supremacy movement.

We are so OT but what the hell-  Supremacy of who over whom?
The definition of Zionism is the Belief that the Jews should have the right live in the Zion (The land of Jerusalem).
Any other interpretation is wrong and based on many other beliefs (some right , some wrong).

Here you go. They should have the right to land that others already own. That is a supremacy ideology.

Without going into the historical arguments from both sides [we will never get to the end of it ] - what does it have to do with Risto's so called Zionist takeover of the media and the world maybe? Is there such a "conspiracy" -maybe there is- but to call it Zionist is wrong- people that use that term are giving too much credit to the people that are the REAL Zionists. I'm sure one can use other terminology for such groups.

Nothing, but with your "right" argument, and no arguments against the political supremacy movement part, you seem to have to agree on it.

Zionism is not a "political supremacy movement," just like Communism is not a political movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel.
Nothing to discuss, please read the definition.

You too disregard the logic I just presented. The right for some to own what others already own, can only exist if there is supremacy.

Are you implying that I, as a US citizen, consider myself superior to Native Americans? Because my house is built on land that once belonged to them? I can assure you that racial supremacy plays no part in this, at least not for me.

If you wish to reexamine who the land originally belonged to, it belongs to the Jews. See boldface.

No, you can not go back generations, using highly questionable documentation, claim some land that others own, and take it using violence. Just like some indian can not now come and claim the land your house is on.

[Erdogan]

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No, you can not go back generations, using highly questionable documentation, claim some land that others own, and take it using violence.

As long we agree that "supremacy" is not a tenet of Zionism, and is just something you've overheard on stormfront.org

Well we don't agree on that, because as farfiman said, Zionism is the idea that some people have the right to take land that is already owned by someone else, by violence. That requires supremacy. He and you try to divert the discourse away from this, using non-arguments. I can only conclude that you are trolls.

[nicked]

I thought this was a TA thread? Maybe I clicked the wrong one.

[rpietila]

Some people feel that they need to get the definitions correct

[Erdogan]

I thought this was a TA thread? Maybe I clicked the wrong one.

Don't overlook that it was the thread owner who initiated it.

[rpietila]

I thought this was a TA thread? Maybe I clicked the wrong one.

Don't overlook that it was the thread owner who initiated it.

In general it might be good to read the OP so you know what's it about and what's not (hint: a smiley in the topic modifies both attributes)

[Erdogan]

I thought this was a TA thread? Maybe I clicked the wrong one.

Don't overlook that it was the thread owner who initiated it.

In general it might be good to read the OP so you know what's it about and what's not (hint: a smiley in the topic modifies both attributes)

Yeah I know. I am finished with the trolls. I guess I punctured their hearts with a wooden stick.