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[chaeplin]

How can I confirm that new stratum (NOMP) works well on RC2.
I could find the block but, couldn't check masternode payout transactions info in block explorer
(http://23.23.186.131:1234/chain/DarkCoin <- testnet block explorer is not working now)

If I find a block on testnet, is it enough for testing?
I got 500 coins, but I thought I must get 450 coins. Isn't it?

For the moment, use darkcoind getblocktemplate.
If payee is none, 500.
(no rpc command yet to check previous block payee)

As I am testing more, I could see some of blocks I mined are 500 and some of them are 450.
Is it possible to have 500 coins? Is it normal behavior?

Yes normal.

No vote winner, after six block, no payee.
This was Masternode payment egde case and patched.

[thelonecrouton]

Beta should be left to people who know what the hell they are doing, not a thread full of clueless whiners who haven't seen a piece of code in their lives... Those people need something EVENTUALLY, but they are a major pain in the ass when you're trying to get something of the ground. Let them whine that they didn't get to instamine anything, whatever. Boohoo, grow brains enough to participate in a useful way then maybe you'll get your day 1 money hose. Kinda like masternodes... If you don't have the brains to set it up, you don't get paid. It puts all you lazy contribution-less Windows Proof of Stakers out on your ass; where you belong. If you can't contribute anything useful, you don't get to be there for day 1. Working as intended. Bite my shiny metal ass.

This is harsh, but sometimes the truth hurts. 

[flat4power]

is darkcoin.io/beta.php down ?
not possible to connect

use this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6659428#msg6659428

thanks

but darkcoin.io not responding

[nearmiss]

how many were mined in the first 24 hours for bitcoin and litecoin??

This isn't 2009, nor the first (or one of the early) coins to launch.  Should standards not improve?

The thing is nearmiss, all of the 'concerns' mentioned by yappy little chihuahua #2 have been completely and utterely thrashed out three times over to the point of exhaustion, and we're all really tired and bored of it. If you can't be bothered to read and research, you shouldn't be investing in anything.

Hey thats fine, no one likes trolls.  Just pointing out its silly to say 'well bitcoin or litcoin or x-coin did it so its ok'.   Different times.  

I like darkcoin, bought some early due to the tech, wish I hadn't of dumped 50% at 320k!

[thelonecrouton]

I am not sure if I understand the concern.  Price, difficulty (i.e. net hashrate), and popularity go hand and hand since this is a free market.  If DRK becomes popular enough for "govthugs" to even entertain the idea of developing private ASICs then the price must be MUCH higher and thus profitable to mine (even at a 5 coin reward).  

You're still thinking like a rational, decent person.

Guv is not motivated by profit. It doesn't care about the price. It sees a threat to control of it's slaves and it will spend any amount of money stolen from those slaves to eliminate the threat. It makes way more money stealing, taxing, feeing. It'll blow 50mil of everyone else's money on a rack of custom ASICs to destroy DRK just for the sake of destroying DRK. It's not about profit.

If your coin doesn't move up to ASICs, you're handing "them" The Bomb that "they" will use to destroy your coin. The only way to defend against The Bomb is to be The Bomb. If your Value/mine rate keeps ASICs down, then your coin will be nuked by a custom, private, not-concerned-with-profit-or-cost ASIC. Period.

Tell me, what part of, "A one line change in the code renders ASICs instantly useless," am I wrong about?

You're not wrong about it. You're 100% right. I can write one line of code that will make the client send everyone's coins to my address... I can write one line of code to do a lot of things.

You're just not considering that it will destroy all trust in the dev/coin if it is done. You can't make huge changes in functionality like that down the road. This coin has morphed enough already... It can't afford to jack around any more. I don't care if its 1 line or 500 lines. Such a serious and fundamental change will fuck trust in the coin.

As with the coin cap choices that have finally been finalized, I beg, pick something and stick with it. You can't change something like this and expect the project to live. We have enough doofus trolls in here with their half-baked arguments who don't understand what they're talking about... We don't need to give them an ACTUAL reason to troll...

Code gets updated all the time. Everywhere, for everything. Nothing bad happens, in fact (usually) the opposite.

Implement a wallet autoupdate feature, and 99% of users wont even notice. Miners might have to download a new version of sgminer or whatever, but I don't see them complaining about it if it defeats ASICs and keeps them in business.

Nobody gets jacked around at all, except the ASIC developers, who've just wasted $millions.

DRK has to remain decentralised. What the eventual approach to that might be I don't know, but changing some code is nothing to be frightened of. A dev that was afraid to make changes would be something to worry about.

[camosoul]

12% of all the darkcoins that ever will be was instamined by Evan a couple of his friends on day 1.

What kind of dev launches a coin without a windows wallet?

I got into this coin because of the technology. Maybe you don't understand investments, but what matters about them is how much YOU own, not how much everyone else owns.

Thanks for advising is that the coin wasn't launched with a Windows wallet. That is about number 100 of my list of concerns right now but I appreciate it's pretty high up on yours.

So here's what I suggest you do - go back to the [ANN] archives and spend a week compiling a list of all the coins that were launched with Windows wallets and then go and plough some BTC into them. Might make you rich  

You're missing the point...
It's fine that you don't mind, that you are biased and this nasty little FACT doesn't bother you.

But how do you think this will play out in the media?

This coin is tainted, permanently. I'm glad that Evan is pushing the boundaries on technology, but darksend can not have any real traction until it is open sourced, and the moment that happens, several clones will pop up. They won't have dodgy names and branding like 'dark' coin, and they will have a zero premine, zero instamine, fair launch.

And how will they market themselves? As the privacy centric coin that is not a scam like that darkcoin.

Will it bother you then?

Oh, and one more thing...

Do you know that although Evan is a smart, dedicated Dev, his solution to anonymity is NOT the best solution out there?

Google 'ring signiture,' google 'monero,' google 'darkwallet,' and you will find that you have put your trust a good solution, but NOT the best solution.

You dark loyalist's have a wierd saviour complex about your dev. He is alright, but he has nothing on the dev's of ring signature coins. They are hackers. They are genuine cryptographers. Evan Duffield is an everyday software designer who wanted to have a go at solving the anonymity problem.

Good on him! I salute him for trying! But buyer beware...darksend could be smashed by NSA or hackers in a heartbeat. And even if Darkcoin and darksend is well received how will you compete with more marketable clones?

Hail Evan the almighty! We don't mind that you instamined 10% of all the coins that ever will be on day 1! We don't mind that your darksend solution is no where near as good as monero's ring signature solution. We have blind faith in you...

Don't hang onto those dark coins for too long...

I ask this troll to think a little more. DRK's privacy solution is the best solution because it creates a real-world paradoxical ruleset and forces Proof of Service, not Proof of Stake. Then, combines it with Proof of Work, which allows for some very awesome future things that have not been mentioned, but if you have half a brain, you can figure out what they are... If you understand cryptocurrencies, not just a pump and dump kiddie troll, you know where this is heading already... I mention the future possibilities as suggestions, but I know they're already being considered and at the root of why masternodes were created. I understand what is going on so I can see what Evan has planned. He's got a plan and it's pretty damn cool. It's an extension of the same paradoxical rulesets that exist in BitCoin, it just goes further in fixing some of the flaws that the BitCoin experiment has shown us.

I saw it back in February. I'm not even holding BTC anymore. I've spent my life 15 years ahead of the curve, this is no different. If you can't figure it out, apply yourself instead of troll, it only makes you look stupid.

If you don't understand how to read the writing on the wall, then ac2's arguments make sense. That's why they make sense to him; he doesn't understand.

My only concern is that DGW3 goes too far. Besides that, DRK is BitCoin 2.0 in my mind. Other coins pushing the same sales pitch don't have the real world checks and balances in their "perfect" technological solutions. Being a bit "hackish" is the whole damn point of why the DRK way is the bast way. It's not just mining that gets an incentive... a long-term viable cryptocoin needs to provide incentive for other services. Hosting of full blockchain and anonymity are just two...

You can't even fit the BTC blockchain onto most mobile devices. You have to have a trusted node... Where's the motivation? Why should someone do it? Where's the proof of trust in that node? Nodes are dropping like flies on the BTC network. The huge blockchain is centralizing among those willing to do it for free...

[toknormal]

Good on him! I salute him for trying! But buyer beware...darksend could be smashed by NSA or hackers in a heartbeat. And even if Darkcoin and darksend is well received how will you compete with more marketable clones?

That's not the point ( at least as far as investing goes).

There will likely be plenty of 'anonymous' coins over the next few years deploying various technologies. The 'best' technology isn't necessarily the most valued in market terms. You only need to look at the current market to see that.

Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin and the like all have successors which improved on their technological approach. However none of their valuations were ever dented once they acquired the pole position in their 'class'. One of reasons for that is that although technological improvements are progress 'under the bonnet', the end user doesn't notice a blind bit of difference. There are also other reasons - basically investment priorities that rank higher that technical prowess as long as the technical integrity of the coin meets at least a minimum level.

For me, it's not important that the coin have 'ultra' opaque characteristics that defy even the NSA. I value this technology for commercial reasons. i.e. for making easy, anonymous transactions that are not transparent to commercial competitors for whom that information might be valuable.

Not saying that the coins you mention aren't interesting, but their emergence is just another horse in the race. It takes a long time and a lot of hard work and co-operative participation to get things right AND make progress in the market at the same time.

Darkcoin is now at a relatively advanced stage in that process. Those other coins are not. Thats why it's having its valuation revised. The underlying technology is just a factor - one that will have some but limited say in the ultimate outcome.

[slapper]

I love all anonymous coins and I have been watching some of the constant FUD that one or two people are doing to Darkcoin.

Cryptohunter, who can be found on the first page of this coin launch! Imagine if you knew how to operate on Linux.

r0ach, is a coin cloner too according to some and is most likely ILuvAnoncoin and ac2 among many other userids.

reRaise who is from quarkcoin team which for some reason is very pissed off at darkcoin.

ymer  who is not very good at trolling and is one of the better laughing stock compared to others.


DRK community doesn't handle FUD correctly, the way BTC/LTC/DOGE etc handle even though the community has been here for 4-5 months.

[miningpoolhub]

How can I confirm that new stratum (NOMP) works well on RC2.
I could find the block but, couldn't check masternode payout transactions info in block explorer
(http://23.23.186.131:1234/chain/DarkCoin <- testnet block explorer is not working now)

If I find a block on testnet, is it enough for testing?
I got 500 coins, but I thought I must get 450 coins. Isn't it?

For the moment, use darkcoind getblocktemplate.
If payee is none, 500.
(no rpc command yet to check previous block payee)

As I am testing more, I could see some of blocks I mined are 500 and some of them are 450.
Is it possible to have 500 coins? Is it normal behavior?

Yes normal.

No vote winner, after six block, no payee.
This was Masternode payment egde case and patched.

If it's patched, but why I am seeing this result?
I'm running the latest source from github.

You mean this situation was not handled correctly before, but patched and current no winner behavior is normal?
Sorry if I understood wrong.

[camosoul]

Beta should be left to people who know what the hell they are doing, not a thread full of clueless whiners who haven't seen a piece of code in their lives... Those people need something EVENTUALLY, but they are a major pain in the ass when you're trying to get something of the ground. Let them whine that they didn't get to instamine anything, whatever. Boohoo, grow brains enough to participate in a useful way then maybe you'll get your day 1 money hose. Kinda like masternodes... If you don't have the brains to set it up, you don't get paid. It puts all you lazy contribution-less Windows Proof of Stakers out on your ass; where you belong. If you can't contribute anything useful, you don't get to be there for day 1. Working as intended. Bite my shiny metal ass.

This is harsh, but sometimes the truth hurts.  

I'm not afraid to "be mean" when it's true. Pain is an excellent teacher, but better still, it shows you the content of someone's character. Would they rather "be offended" or step up and accept it and do something about it?

Hit someone with the ugly truth and see what they do with it. Then you'll know if that person is worth a damn, or just another wad of flesh wasting your oxygen...

[camosoul]

basically investment priorities that rank higher that technical prowess as long as the technical integrity of the coin meets at least a minimum level.

Thank you for finding the words for me.

BTC is still here. It may not be perfect in execution, but it's still solid in function.

Start changing it around and the coin dies. This is the foundation upon which all other qualities rest.

[coins101]

12% of all the darkcoins that ever will be was instamined by Evan a couple of his friends on day 1.

What kind of dev launches a coin without a windows wallet?

I got into this coin because of the technology. Maybe you don't understand investments, but what matters about them is how much YOU own, not how much everyone else owns.

Thanks for advising is that the coin wasn't launched with a Windows wallet. That is about number 100 of my list of concerns right now but I appreciate it's pretty high up on yours.

So here's what I suggest you do - go back to the [ANN] archives and spend a week compiling a list of all the coins that were launched with Windows wallets and then go and plough some BTC into them. Might make you rich  

You're missing the point...
It's fine that you don't mind, that you are biased and this nasty little FACT doesn't bother you.

But how do you think this will play out in the media?

This coin is tainted, permanently. I'm glad that Evan is pushing the boundaries on technology, but darksend can not have any real traction until it is open sourced, and the moment that happens, several clones will pop up. They won't have dodgy names and branding like 'dark' coin, and they will have a zero premine, zero instamine, fair launch.

And how will they market themselves? As the privacy centric coin that is not a scam like that darkcoin.

Will it bother you then?

Oh, and one more thing...

Do you know that although Evan is a smart, dedicated Dev, his solution to anonymity is NOT the best solution out there?

Google 'ring signiture,' google 'monero,' google 'darkwallet,' and you will find that you have put your trust a good solution, but NOT the best solution.

You dark loyalist's have a wierd saviour complex about your dev. He is alright, but he has nothing on the dev's of ring signature coins. They are hackers. They are genuine cryptographers. Evan Duffield is an everyday software designer who wanted to have a go at solving the anonymity problem.

Good on him! I salute him for trying! But buyer beware...darksend could be smashed by NSA or hackers in a heartbeat. And even if Darkcoin and darksend is well received how will you compete with more marketable clones?

Hail Evan the almighty! We don't mind that you instamined 10% of all the coins that ever will be on day 1! We don't mind that your darksend solution is no where near as good as monero's ring signature solution. We have blind faith in you...

Don't hang onto those dark coins for too long...

I ask this troll to think a little more. DRK's privacy solution is the best solution because it creates a real-world paradoxical ruleset and forces Proof of Service, not Proof of Stake. Then, combines it with Proof of Work, which allows for some very awesome future things that have not been mentioned, but if you have half a brain, you can figure out what they are... If you understand cryptocurrencies, not just a pump and dump kiddie troll, you know where this is heading already... I mention the future possibilities as suggestions, but I know they're already being considered and at the root of why masternodes were created. I understand what is going on so I can see what Evan has planned. He's got a plan and it's pretty damn cool. It's an extension of the same paradoxical rulesets that exist in BitCoin, it just goes further in fixing some of the flaws that the BitCoin experiment has shown us.

I saw it back in February. I'm not even holding BTC anymore. I've spent my life 15 years ahead of the curve, this is no different. If you can't figure it out, apply yourself instead of troll, it only makes you look stupid.

If you don't understand how to read the writing on the wall, then ac2's arguments make sense. That's why they make sense to him; he doesn't understand.

My only concern is that DGW3 goes too far. Besides that, DRK is BitCoin 2.0 in my mind. Other coins pushing the same sales pitch don't have the real world checks and balances in their "perfect" technological solutions. Being a bit "hackish" is the whole damn point of why the DRK way is the bast way. It's not just mining that gets an incentive... a long-term viable cryptocoin needs to provide incentive for other services. Hosting of full blockchain and anonymity are just two...

You can't even fit the BTC blockchain onto most mobile devices. You have to have a trusted node... Where's the motivation? Why should someone do it? Where's the proof of trust in that node? Nodes are dropping like flies on the BTC network. The huge blockchain is centralizing among those willing to do it for free...

I seem to remember this troll was a Darkcoin supporter not that long ago.

I guess he bought some, thought he could day trade and lost money when shorts didn't go so well. It happens. Best thing to do is not dwell on the loss and just minimise the loss - get back in and over the next few weeks the loss will become a profit.

I do like how some of these trolls spend so much of their time here. If they really thought DRK had no future, they wouldn't spend so much of the precious time on this planet trying to pull it down.

[JGCMiner]

I love all anonymous coins and I have been watching some of the constant FUD that one or two people are doing to Darkcoin.

Cryptohunter, who can be found on the first page of this coin launch! Imagine if you knew how to operate on Linux.

r0ach, is a coin cloner too according to some and is most likely ILuvAnoncoin and ac2 among many other userids.

reRaise who is from quarkcoin team which for some reason is very pissed off at darkcoin.

ymer  who is not very good at trolling and is one of the better laughing stock compared to others.


DRK community doesn't handle FUD correctly, the way BTC/LTC/DOGE etc handle even though the community has been here for 4-5 months.

Don't stop before sharing the correct way...

[dark-sailor]

I think Evan and the team deserve all the money they get even if they are still holding the instamine which I'm sure there not but if so they deserve it great team loving the coin . They should be minted as they are very clever devs.  Just my thoughts

[eduffield]

12% of all the darkcoins that ever will be was instamined by Evan a couple of his friends on day 1.

What kind of dev launches a coin without a windows wallet?

I got into this coin because of the technology. Maybe you don't understand investments, but what matters about them is how much YOU own, not how much everyone else owns.

Thanks for advising is that the coin wasn't launched with a Windows wallet. That is about number 100 of my list of concerns right now but I appreciate it's pretty high up on yours.

So here's what I suggest you do - go back to the [ANN] archives and spend a week compiling a list of all the coins that were launched with Windows wallets and then go and plough some BTC into them. Might make you rich  

You're missing the point...
It's fine that you don't mind, that you are biased and this nasty little FACT doesn't bother you.

But how do you think this will play out in the media?

This coin is tainted, permanently. I'm glad that Evan is pushing the boundaries on technology, but darksend can not have any real traction until it is open sourced, and the moment that happens, several clones will pop up. They won't have dodgy names and branding like 'dark' coin, and they will have a zero premine, zero instamine, fair launch.

And how will they market themselves? As the privacy centric coin that is not a scam like that darkcoin.

Will it bother you then?

Oh, and one more thing...

Do you know that although Evan is a smart, dedicated Dev, his solution to anonymity is NOT the best solution out there?

Google 'ring signiture,' google 'monero,' google 'darkwallet,' and you will find that you have put your trust a good solution, but NOT the best solution.

You dark loyalist's have a wierd saviour complex about your dev. He is alright, but he has nothing on the dev's of ring signature coins. They are hackers. They are genuine cryptographers. Evan Duffield is an everyday software designer who wanted to have a go at solving the anonymity problem.

Good on him! I salute him for trying! But buyer beware...darksend could be smashed by NSA or hackers in a heartbeat. And even if Darkcoin and darksend is well received how will you compete with more marketable clones?

Hail Evan the almighty! We don't mind that you instamined 10% of all the coins that ever will be on day 1! We don't mind that your darksend solution is no where near as good as monero's ring signature solution. We have blind faith in you...

Don't hang onto those dark coins for too long...

Ring signatures are going to be implemented in V2. I will begin development immediately after I opensource V1.

How do we compete against clones? Can they clone me? I work on this full time. In fact, I've only been at it four months. So far I've implemented DarkSend + X11 + DGW + Masternode payments. Plus, I've agreed to work on this project till at least Jan 2016 full time. So who on earth would invest in a clone?

[toknormal]

How do we compete against clones? Can they clone me? I work on this full time

LoL !!

Hit the nail on the head. People are more valuable than technology in this business. One's replaceable, the other isn't 

[chaeplin]

How can I confirm that new stratum (NOMP) works well on RC2.
I could find the block but, couldn't check masternode payout transactions info in block explorer
(http://23.23.186.131:1234/chain/DarkCoin <- testnet block explorer is not working now)

If I find a block on testnet, is it enough for testing?
I got 500 coins, but I thought I must get 450 coins. Isn't it?

For the moment, use darkcoind getblocktemplate.
If payee is none, 500.
(no rpc command yet to check previous block payee)

As I am testing more, I could see some of blocks I mined are 500 and some of them are 450.
Is it possible to have 500 coins? Is it normal behavior?

Yes normal.

No vote winner, after six block, no payee.
This was Masternode payment egde case and patched.

If it's patched, but why I am seeing this result?
I'm running the latest source from github.

You mean this situation was not handled correctly before, but patched and current no winner behavior is normal?
Sorry if I understood wrong.

It's testnet and fewer NM.

Code:

    "height" : 4804,
    "votes" : [
        "bf120000000000001976a91473e2e430e836a8ec6a4fe6c7e8781ecdbc83e9a788ac04000000",
        "c0120000000000001976a9149e84da008f23726970d49e232d625f887f669a1f88ac03000000",
        "c1120000000000001976a914162ecc8cf21ec8b34db83590f7c576ea13f689d688ac02000000",
        "c2120000000000001976a9149e84da008f23726970d49e232d625f887f669a1f88ac01000000",
        "c4120000000000001976a914b7ad416c7dd0796502c38e0bdb465f25c6247db688ac01000000"
    ],
    "payee" : "",
    "masternode_payments" : true

block 4804 --> 500
block 4804 + 5(or 6 not sure) --> 450 ( 4804 has votes, so should be winner).

RC2 mainnet has votes on every block. So no winner behavior might not happen.

Code:

    "height" : 67245,
    "votes" : [
        "ad060100000000001976a914caa45c091197c6fcee8ff4978c2b38533b5a0e2888ac01000000"
    ],
    "payee" : "",
    "masternode_payments" : false

[Kai Proctor]

I seem to remember this troll was a Darkcoin supporter not that long ago.

I guess he bought some, thought he could day trade and lost money when shorts didn't go so well. It happens. Best thing to do is not dwell on the loss and just minimise the loss - get back in and over the next few weeks the loss will become a profit.

I do like how some of these trolls spend so much of their time here. If they really thought DRK had no future, they wouldn't spend so much of the precious time on this planet trying to pull it down.

No, he's a troll since day 1. He started to play the role of a supporter after being called out 2 days ago. Probably crytohunter or IlovAnocoin (or something like that)  

Yes you are a troll, with the basic "I give you some free advice because I care about you" attitude. I'm flattered that you dedicate such a large part of your small post count to enlighten us. /sarcasm

[camosoul]

I am not sure if I understand the concern.  Price, difficulty (i.e. net hashrate), and popularity go hand and hand since this is a free market.  If DRK becomes popular enough for "govthugs" to even entertain the idea of developing private ASICs then the price must be MUCH higher and thus profitable to mine (even at a 5 coin reward).  

You're still thinking like a rational, decent person.

Guv is not motivated by profit. It doesn't care about the price. It sees a threat to control of it's slaves and it will spend any amount of money stolen from those slaves to eliminate the threat. It makes way more money stealing, taxing, feeing. It'll blow 50mil of everyone else's money on a rack of custom ASICs to destroy DRK just for the sake of destroying DRK. It's not about profit.

If your coin doesn't move up to ASICs, you're handing "them" The Bomb that "they" will use to destroy your coin. The only way to defend against The Bomb is to be The Bomb. If your Value/mine rate keeps ASICs down, then your coin will be nuked by a custom, private, not-concerned-with-profit-or-cost ASIC. Period.

Tell me, what part of, "A one line change in the code renders ASICs instantly useless," am I wrong about?

You're not wrong about it. You're 100% right. I can write one line of code that will make the client send everyone's coins to my address... I can write one line of code to do a lot of things.

You're just not considering that it will destroy all trust in the dev/coin if it is done. You can't make huge changes in functionality like that down the road. This coin has morphed enough already... It can't afford to jack around any more. I don't care if its 1 line or 500 lines. Such a serious and fundamental change will fuck trust in the coin.

As with the coin cap choices that have finally been finalized, I beg, pick something and stick with it. You can't change something like this and expect the project to live. We have enough doofus trolls in here with their half-baked arguments who don't understand what they're talking about... We don't need to give them an ACTUAL reason to troll...

Code gets updated all the time. Everywhere, for everything. Nothing bad happens, in fact (usually) the opposite.

Implement a wallet autoupdate feature, and 99% of users wont even notice. Miners might have to download a new version of sgminer or whatever, but I don't see them complaining about it if it defeats ASICs and keeps them in business.

Nobody gets jacked around at all, except the ASIC developers, who've just wasted $millions.

DRK has to remain decentralised. What the eventual approach to that might be I don't know, but changing some code is nothing to be frightened of. A dev that was afraid to make changes would be something to worry about.

I agree with half of this.

Changes have to be made. FUNDAMENTAL functionality changes have to be made up front and left alone. What if Windows suddenly stopped being an OS altogether and was nothing but an Instant Messenger client with no bootloader and networking support required a separate piece of software?

Changes, yes. But sweeping changes that re-define the whole damn thing, you can't do that to a cryptocoin and expect it to survive.

Yes, it has to stay decentralized, but you can't have decentralization at the expense of The Bomb. With diff already bottoming out, I fear that may be what we've got... And a fundamental down-change to diff calc will result in what is essentially orders of magnitude of inflation.

It's damn near impossible to predict, but at the same time, you better get it right because if you change it 1 or 3 years down the road... It becomes a completely different coin in one line of code.

[Dusty11]

There should be a smart copy pasta that answers all these trolls typical grievances that are brought up.
Just so new bystanders can realise its all been dealt with before.