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February 24, 2014, 04:30:30 PM
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Hello admins,

My post was deleted and I have the account anyboy but I forgot the password. Can I create another BTT account for this transaction?


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Quote from: anyboy on February 15, 2014, 05:31:35 AM
Hi,

Send 0.075 to 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
Block number is 97e51a70b57da5f356ca1f21fee7034a7f33eed2690da0e563e32af673c3977a

Please help to reserve NEM coin.


Hi utopianfuture,
I am anyboy and I login to my email and account anymore.
the account password must be stolen. Can I still get the NEM with this IOP?
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February 24, 2014, 04:32:50 PM
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.

We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.

I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created  before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.  

It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.

I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.





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what are the numbers for?

1.75E +19 5.62 E 18, E 19 1:32??
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February 24, 2014, 04:39:25 PM
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.

We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.

I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created  before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.  

It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.

I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.





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what are the numbers for?

1.75E +19 5.62 E 18, E 19 1:32??

I guess those are NXT TXIDs that google docs converted into float.

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February 24, 2014, 04:41:30 PM
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Dear utopianfuture
I dont see my name is in your new doc. but it was in the old doc.
Can you please verify it?

My transaction is below: please verify it and change my status in the Google document.
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/837e64327f7a6e51096be48e6d203361c0f42dd48e9576b9e503df320ed469f0

My original thread is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5189110#msg5189110

Kind regards,
Sergey
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February 24, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.

We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.

I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created  before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.  

It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.

I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.





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what are the numbers for?

1.75E +19 5.62 E 18, E 19 1:32??

That's the NXT tx id/ bitcoin hash. There are some formatting issues especially with NXT tx id. They are fine in most cases, but it is best to go to the account's post to collect the accurate tx id (with regarding to NXT transactions).


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February 24, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
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Dear utopianfuture
I dont see my name is in your new doc. but it was in the old doc.
Can you please verify it?

My transaction is below: please verify it and change my status in the Google document.
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/837e64327f7a6e51096be48e6d203361c0f42dd48e9576b9e503df320ed469f0

My original thread is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5189110#msg5189110

Kind regards,
Sergey


The link in your original post does not return a correct transaction. Please file an official post in stake complaint thread with the new ID. We have to check it against all the existing hashes so it will take sometimes but we will deal with all of the complaints in an order.


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February 24, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
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NEM official stakeholder list (before the public auditing).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c#gid=0

From now on we will use this list instead of the previous stakeholder list which will be used for checking references only.

So there are 3124 Stakeholders now?

Thanks for your hard work UP Wink

There are around 2900 now after all the deletions. I keep the position no. the same for references, but the actual cell counts in the sheet are a bit above 2900.


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February 24, 2014, 04:47:50 PM
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I am more concerned about the three categories of user, because I belong to the third category of users.
   I think just to have the number of posts published can not conclude whether it is speculators, thank you!

True, but I think it's one of those things where it is, at least on the surface, easy to spot a sockpuppet. For example, if you notice 5 users creating new accounts and paying within 10 minutes of each, then chances are these are accounts from one person.

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February 24, 2014, 04:50:02 PM
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Hello admins,

My post was deleted and I have the account anyboy but I forgot the password. Can I create another BTT account for this transaction?


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Quote from: anyboy on February 15, 2014, 05:31:35 AM
Hi,

Send 0.075 to 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
Block number is 97e51a70b57da5f356ca1f21fee7034a7f33eed2690da0e563e32af673c3977a

Please help to reserve NEM coin.


Hi utopianfuture,
I am anyboy and I login to my email and account anymore.
the account password must be stolen. Can I still get the NEM with this IOP?


If you lose the password to your account, how can I know you are indeed the owner of the account ? you could  bring this post to the complaint thread for reference. After some time if no one claims anyboy stake, then we will try to figure something out.


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February 24, 2014, 05:03:37 PM
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Hello admins,

My post was deleted and I have the account anyboy but I forgot the password. Can I create another BTT account for this transaction?


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Quote from: anyboy on February 15, 2014, 05:31:35 AM
Hi,

Send 0.075 to 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
Block number is 97e51a70b57da5f356ca1f21fee7034a7f33eed2690da0e563e32af673c3977a

Please help to reserve NEM coin.


Hi utopianfuture,
I am anyboy and I login to my email and account anymore.
the account password must be stolen. Can I still get the NEM with this IOP?


Can you not reset your password, then your new password will be sent to the email address you registered with.
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February 24, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.

We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.

I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created  before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.  

It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.

I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.

UP    

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February 24, 2014, 05:29:07 PM
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Hi!

In NEM Stakeholder list on Google Docs (Thread 2) my account marked "possible duplicate hash fraudster" with user kennywho, but

My transaction id: 2630613199547305703
kennywho transaction id: 2630402633550461799

Please correct
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February 24, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
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Hi!

In NEM Stakeholder list on Google Docs (Thread 2) my account marked "possible duplicate hash fraudster" with user kennywho, but

My transaction id: 2630613199547305703
kennywho transaction id: 2630402633550461799

Please correct

Noted, I'll add a comment to the list. I'm suprised you made it to the unified list without a Y in the first place.

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image removed

Wasn't there some forum, where all the logos are collected?
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February 24, 2014, 05:45:53 PM
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Hi!

In NEM Stakeholder list on Google Docs (Thread 2) my account marked "possible duplicate hash fraudster" with user kennywho, but

My transaction id: 2630613199547305703
kennywho transaction id: 2630402633550461799

Please correct

Noted, I'll add a comment to the list. I'm suprised you made it to the unified list without a Y in the first place.

I like your signature. I like that it shows NEM, and that the E catches people's eye.


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February 24, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
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Hi!

In NEM Stakeholder list on Google Docs (Thread 2) my account marked "possible duplicate hash fraudster" with user kennywho, but

My transaction id: 2630613199547305703
kennywho transaction id: 2630402633550461799

Please correct

You are fine. I spotted that error earlier. Any names in the official list are clear of duplicate hash issues.


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February 24, 2014, 05:57:10 PM
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Hi!

In NEM Stakeholder list on Google Docs (Thread 2) my account marked "possible duplicate hash fraudster" with user kennywho, but

My transaction id: 2630613199547305703
kennywho transaction id: 2630402633550461799

Please correct

You are fine. I spotted that error earlier. Any names in the official list are clear of duplicate hash issues.

Thanks :=)
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February 24, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
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NEM official stakeholder list (before the public auditing).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c#gid=0

From now on we will use this list instead of the previous stakeholder list which will be used for checking references only.

wow ... thanks for you guys auditing all this, very tedious work.

It'll be nice to get the official list in stone, so more productive things can be worked on ...

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February 24, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.

We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.

I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created  before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.  

It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.

I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.

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