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December 02, 2020, 02:01:11 PM
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Or, Khabibs plan is to make his EFC popular (it is even already popular, even without running a single event). Allow more fighters to participate in fights (as in one of his videos on youtube he scolded fighters for not participating in fights/ranking fights/events, but just train and not evolve). With an aim to sell his promotion to UFC (like previously UFC bought Pride, Strikeforce, WEC).

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December 02, 2020, 02:59:42 PM
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Any suggestions on what should not be missed in next ufc event, as I’m not familiar with any of the fighters (I’m more like old school aka pride/glory guy).

As usually I’m going to watch all “middleweight and above fights”. But is there any particular fight I shouldnt miss? Thanks.

Def watch Topuria vs Jackson, Jimmy Flick vs Durden, Leavitt is good in the regionals, Evloev is also good and the guy he's fighting is insane.  Go watch Landwehr vs Elkins if you can find it.  And Dolidze vs Allan should be good too.

Edit:  Oh and the main event match up is good.

Edit:  Dec 19 main event between Chimaev vs Leon Edwards was scrapped due to Edwards getting covid.

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December 03, 2020, 01:04:53 PM
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Has the Khabib press conference happened yet? It seems that it was planned for today but can't see any confirmation of that and there's nothing on his Instagram. Hoping there's more than just the announcement of his MMA company he's apparently just bought.

So Khabib's conference happened later in the day, but disappointingly it seemed mostly about prmotiong his MMA company he's bought and trying to get MMA into the Olympics for 2028. He did say "anything can happen" in response to a question about Connor McGregor but I'm not sure whether he was sending out a dig towards the UFC referring to them being able to stoke up tension and controversy or them being able to make any fight happen. I'm not sure he would want to sour terms with Dana and the UFC though especially if he's looking to go into business with them and the UFC Pass to stream his promotions cards. That would be vital in getting his brand out there and will surely lead to rapid growth.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-conor-mcgregor-vs-dustin-poirier-has-a-new-guest-khabib-nurmagomedov-announces-exciting-news-for-ufc-fight-island-week/

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Fans of the sport will be aware that there’s no love lost between Conor McGregor and Khabib Nurmagomedov. Following their ugly run in before UFC 223 in Brooklyn and after their fight at UFC 229, things aren’t the same. Khabib certainly wasn’t too concerned about the fall-out from running into the Irishman. Despite the bad blood between the two, Khabib seemed nonchalant about a run-in.

He said, “Why should I worry about that? It depends on the situation. I have no plans to do something if I see a certain someone. I can bump into someone here.”
“Anything can happen”- ‘The Eagle’

Additionally, Nurmagomedov was quick to jump in on the reporter’s theory that the UFC might try an engineer an encounter. ‘The Eagle’ subscribed to the aforementioned theory and claimed that the UFC was indeed capable of such a thing.

He added, “Now that’s a serious question! Maybe. They’re good at making that happen. Anything can happen. It can happen in Moscow, Abu Dhabi, New York. They can make that happen, believe me that’s their specialty"

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December 03, 2020, 11:28:08 PM
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I am not much interested in many fights in upcoming UFC fight night but I will try to watch Ovince Saint Preux   vs. Jamahal Hill.
Saint Preux is 37 years old veteran fighting against undefeated Jamahal Hill, that had one overturned fight because of marijuana smoking Smiley
I will wait for Dana White introduction video before making any bets.

Talking about drugs, USADA suspended Yair Rodriguez six months for missing drug tests!

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December 04, 2020, 04:49:56 PM
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^  NSAC, USADA or whoever should take weed off the list of prohibited substances.  I mean seriously, wtf?  And Dana made it look like Yair Rodriguez was in serious Mexican cartel trouble at last week's post fight press conference.  Lol.

Live weigh ins for the event starting in 10 mins...

UFC Las Vegas 16:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZQ0ob36ePo

Edit:  Here's Dan Hardy's channel.  Just pick the one with the better view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEs_gmhbVlM

Fighters to watch at the weigh ins are:  Smolka, Johan Allan and Durden.  Smolka had a bad weight cut two weeks ago and pulled out, Allan was suspended for one year for PED and Durden has a hard time making 125.

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December 04, 2020, 10:14:20 PM
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Ok let's get ready for upcoming UFC fight night with Dana White preview video:
https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1334979079230001152

Main event is looking nice with Sweden vs Italy, and Vettori with nice 3 win streak record is a slight favorite in this fight if we look at bookies odds.

Dana recommends watching Jimmy Flick vs Cody Durden and he predicts madness and first win for one of this two fighters.

Nate Landwehr vs Movsar Evloev is one more fight and classic US vs Russia, with Evloev record 13-0 and no loses so far it should be a good clash of styles, but odds on Evloev are silly low.




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December 05, 2020, 12:24:48 PM
Last edit: December 05, 2020, 01:09:29 PM by tokeweed
 #3027

^  I got Hemansson, Cody Durden and Evloev vs Landwehr line is way wide...  Wouldn't bet it tho.  But I think it should be closer.

Weigh in results.

UFC Las Vegas 17:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMOKYys7rTU

UFC Las Vegas 17:  Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzqyTaliHvc

Jack Hermansson (185.5) vs Marvin Vettori (186)
Ovince Saint Preux (207.5)* vs Jamahal Hill (205.5)
Gabriel Benitez (155.5) vs Justin Jaynes (156)
Montana De La Rosa (125.75) vs Taila Santos (125.5)
Roman Dolidze (205.5) vs John Allan (205)
Nate Landwehr (145.5) vs Movsar Evloev (145.5)
Louis Smolka (134.5) vs Jose Quinonez (135)
Matt Wiman (155.5) vs Jordan Leavitt (155.5)
Jimmy Flick (125.5) vs Cody Durden (125.5)
Ilia Topuria (145) vs Damon Jackson (145)
Gian Villante (243) vs Jake Collier (264.5)

*OSP missed weight by 1.5 lbs.

Edit:  Leavitt didn't look so good on the scale.  His path to win is via sub.  Wiman has never been subbed, slow on the feet and overall bad..  Take that and what prolly was a draining weight cut, it could go to decision.  Over 2.5 rounds wouldn't be a bad look imo.

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December 05, 2020, 01:29:41 PM
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Due to the Betnomi event of tokeweed I think I will be sharing my picks here on the UFC Fight Night on ESPN: Hermansson vs. Vettori Betnomi Style, I am just hyped on the main event and on Jimmy Flick vs Cody Durden to not miss this opportunity on betting, and just trying my luck again in how many fights and method  I can score correctly.

Jack Hermansson vs Marvin Vettori - PICK: Jack Hermansson - METHOD: KO/TKO
Ovince Saint Preux vs Jamahal Hill - PICK: Ovince Saint Preux - METHOD: KO/TKO
Gabriel Benitez vs Justin Jaynes - PICK: Gabriel Benitez - METHOD: Submission
Montana De La Rosa vs Taila Santos - PICK: Taila Santos - METHOD: KO/TKO
Roman Dolidze vs John Allan - PICK: Roman Dolidze - METHOD: KO/TKO
Nate Landwehr vs Movsar Evloev - PICK: Movsar Evloev - METHOD: Decision
Louis Smolka vs Jose Quinonez - PICK: Jose Quinonez - METHOD: Decision
Matt Wiman vs Jordan Leavitt - PICK: Jordan Leavitt - METHOD: Submission
Jimmy Flick vs Cody Durden - PICK: Jimmy Flick - METHOD: Submission
Ilia Topuria vs Damon Jackson - PICK: Ilia Topuria - METHOD: Submission
Gian Villante vs Jake Collier - PICK: Gian Villante - METHOD: KO/TKO
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According to multiple sources Yoel Romero just released from UFC contract after seven years, probably because of missing his drug tests like I wrote before or something even worse! Maybe we are going to see him on some other promotion like Bellator.
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1335039384626860032

*OSP missed weight by 1.5 lbs.
He is getting older, and it gets much harder to cut weight.

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^  NSAC, USADA or whoever should take weed off the list of prohibited substances.  I mean seriously, wtf?  And Dana made it look like Yair Rodriguez was in serious Mexican cartel trouble at last week's post fight press conference.  Lol.
In the UFC the USADA will not prosecute if you have taken weed and they have taken that action when Nate Diaz started vaping right after his fight against Conor McGregor and it was a controversy during that time but then Jeff Novitzky AKA the Golden Snitch came out with the decision and there is a limit to the amount you can have during fight time.

According to multiple sources Yoel Romero just released from UFC contract after seven years, probably because of missing his drug tests like I wrote before or something even worse! Maybe we are going to see him on some other promotion like Bellator.
Yoel Romero left the UFC and if he can join any other promotion i am sure he will become their champion even at 43 years and it is a good move by his management.
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Here is the results, it was a card with many fights scrapped and Marvin Vettori fought well and he only lost the third round and Jack Hermansson was not able to take him down.
Jamahal Hill impressed me and OSP failed again.



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^  Yup covid.  Sad  But Durden had pink eye.  Next time he should make sure the girl is straight from the shower before he starts eating ass.  Lolol.

And I was wrong...  Topuria's legit.  I feel stupid for taking action on Jackson.  Cheesy  Can't wait to see him back in there again.

Another thing that caught my eye was Dolidze.  He wasn't able to finish a guy who came out of a one year suspension for PED use.  Could be a fade vs better competition.

^  NSAC, USADA or whoever should take weed off the list of prohibited substances.  I mean seriously, wtf?  And Dana made it look like Yair Rodriguez was in serious Mexican cartel trouble at last week's post fight press conference.  Lol.
In the UFC the USADA will not prosecute if you have taken weed and they have taken that action when Nate Diaz started vaping right after his fight against Conor McGregor and it was a controversy during that time but then Jeff Novitzky AKA the Golden Snitch came out with the decision and there is a limit to the amount you can have during fight time.




Yes they do.  They suspend and fine fighters and over turn their wins to no contests.  They did it to Nick Diaz.

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Yes they do.  They suspend and fine fighters and over turn their wins to no contests.  They did it to Nick Diaz.
The USADA has relaxed the rules, after the second Conor McGregor fight Nate Diaz smoked CBD (Cannabidiol) right after the fight and he was vaping during the post fight interview and he did not get a suspension and there was a controversy after that because his brother Nick Diaz was suspended for 5 years prior for smoking Weed and then they decided they will allow fighters to use CBD after the competition. Now the rules are more relaxed than before and you can use Marijuana but not on the day of the fight but outside competition they will not suspend the fighters.
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I think it is time for Ovince Saint Preux to slowly think about retirement.
Fight of the Night was Marvin Vettori vs Jack Hermansson and bonuses for performance of the night goes to Gabriel Benítez and Jordan Leavitt.

Here is Post Fight full press conference with Dana White announcing around 60 fighters getting cut from UFC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfgKbVr1BAk

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UFC 256



Date: SUN, December 12
Main Card: Sun, Dec 12 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: Sun, Dec 12 / 3:00 AM EET
Early prelims: Sun, Dec 12 / 1:000 AM EET
Venue: UFC APEX, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Main card (ESPN)
Flyweight: Deiveson Figueiredo (c) vs. Brandon Moreno
Lightweight: Tony Ferguson vs. Charles Oliveira            
Lightweight: Renato Moicano vs. Rafael Fiziev            
Middleweight: Kevin Holland vs. Ronaldo Souza            
Heavyweight: Junior dos Santos vs. Ciryl Gane

Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Featherweight: Cub Swanson vs. Daniel Pineda            
Women's Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern vs. Virna Jandiroba            
Women's Strawweight: Tecia Torres vs. Angela Hill

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)   
Featherweight: Gavin Tucker vs. Billy Quarantillo            
Heavyweight: Sergey Spivak vs. Jared Vanderaa            
Middleweight: Karl Roberson vs. Dalcha Lungiambula            
Welterweight: Li Jingliang vs. Dwight Grant            
Featherweight: Chase Hooper vs. Peter Barrett

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_256

I think that main event of the evening will be stolen by Ferguson vs Oliveira fight. My prediction - Oliveira win by Submission.
Also pay attention to dos Santos vs Gane fight. I think that old dos Santos will be TKO'ed. And don't miss Jacare fight against Holland  Wink

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I think that main event of the evening will be stolen by Ferguson vs Oliveira fight. My prediction - Oliveira win by Submission.
Also pay attention to dos Santos vs Gane fight. I think that old dos Santos will be TKO'ed. And don't miss Jacare fight against Holland  Wink
I will not go against Tony Ferguson and i am expecting him to submit Charles Oliveira, he had a bad day against Justin Gaethje and he was foolish enough to cut weight twice which is not great for the body and it showed in the performance. There are familiar faces in this card and have to look at their recent fights to make my pick.
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Flyweight: Deiveson Figueiredo (c) vs. Brandon Moreno
Lightweight: Tony Ferguson vs. Charles Oliveira            
Props to Fig for taking up fights again after defending his belt just recently. He must be so bored at home or that he just want to collect more money (including fight of the night bonus).

Tony vs. Charles - the one with a tougher skull is going to win this fight because it's going to be another bloodshed. Tony already lost that "invincible" aura and I hope he's well conditioned in this fight. If he wins, great! he could be ready for a title shot. If he loses, no more excuses like problematic weight cut.
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^  Nope, more like Dana was desperate and offered him money and a UFC deal for his brother.  Dana lost Nunes vs Anderson and Yan vs Sterling.  That's supposed to be the main event and the co main for 256.

And Angela Hill got covid so she's out and Andrea Lee is out too due to injury.

Fighters who are under the radar to watch for this event are Fiziev, watch his bout vs Diakeise.  His kicks to the body crack like lightning in the arena.  Billy Q is good.  And Cyrl Gane, who's prolly the future of UFC HW imho.

I guess Janiroba is somebody to watch out for...  I'm not sure why she's the underdog.  And I hope Kevin Holland performs well.  He's always fun to watch.

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Yes they do.  They suspend and fine fighters and over turn their wins to no contests.  They did it to Nick Diaz.
The USADA has relaxed the rules, after the second Conor McGregor fight Nate Diaz smoked CBD (Cannabidiol) right after the fight and he was vaping during the post fight interview and he did not get a suspension and there was a controversy after that because his brother Nick Diaz was suspended for 5 years prior for smoking Weed and then they decided they will allow fighters to use CBD after the competition. Now the rules are more relaxed than before and you can use Marijuana but not on the day of the fight but outside competition they will not suspend the fighters.

The NSAC or whoever still fines fighters and over turns wins to no contests for weed.  Look it up.  Niko Price was the latest one.  Not sure about CBD tho.  

Edit:  To get you guys into it.  Wink

UFC 256:  Countdown - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvtAOBl2Vw

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December 07, 2020, 08:21:21 PM
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Fight Karl Roberson vs Dalcha Lungiambula is also canceled because of positive covid testing...again, and that fight is postponed.
We saw this so many times so I am waiting for the last day before talking for sure who will really fight.
Dana White and friends are having much headaches and things to combine Smiley


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December 07, 2020, 11:53:38 PM
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Tony vs. Charles - the one with a tougher skull is going to win this fight because it's going to be another bloodshed. Tony already lost that "invincible" aura and I hope he's well conditioned in this fight. If he wins, great! he could be ready for a title shot. If he loses, no more excuses like problematic weight cut.
Tony Ferguson was not an undefeated fighter, whenever he lost he came back and rectified his mistakes and went on a tear for years until he got defeated recently. It is true that there are fighters who has an undefeated record and once he gets defeated he will never be the same fighter and this fight against Charles Oliveira will determine whether he can return for another title contention or will fade away.
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