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^  Just shows that 6 months rest isn't enough after that massive beating he took from Gaethje.  He should've stayed away from the game for at least a year imho. 

And how about that Fiziev match vs Moicano.  I think we'll be seeing Fiziev at LW top 10 next year.

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Charles Oliveira surprised me by completely dominating Tony Ferguson, i thought he could have stopped Tony Ferguson in the first round if there was a few seconds more as the armbar was nasty.

I see no fire in Tony Ferguson eyes in his last two fights. Imo, he seems to fight like he is forced somehow to do it. Maybe by financial situation, maybe because he is tired to be not fighting, maybe he has not fully mentally recovered yet.

Tony was loaded to fight back in 2018, during first cancelation of fight against Khabib. Now the sparkles went out. And btw, by looking how he sucked at wrestling against Oliveira and that armbar, I remember how he told Khabibs wrestling is nothing. Khabib would have submitted him in first two rounds.

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UFC 265 Deiveson Figueiredo vs. Brandon Moreno

Was an insane main event both fighters have done their all, and I was really surprised at Moreno holding on and both fighters were really equal and in my opinion, if it wasn't for the deduct points on Figueiredo, He might have won this fight but still, I think both men are winners for an amazing performance, and let's move on to the next match.

UFC Fight Night: Thompson vs. Neal



UFC Apex in Las Vegas, Nevada
December 19, 2020

MAIN CARD

Stephen Thompson   vs.   Geoff Neal
José Aldo   vs.   Marlon Vera
Michel Pereira   vs.   Khaos Williams
Marlon Moraes   vs.   Rob Font
Marcin Tybura   vs.   Greg Hardy
Anthony Pettis   vs.   Alex Morono

This is the one I'm looking forward to the most. Looks like Michel Pereira has been bumped up to the main card from the preliminaries which is good news as he always puts on a great show. Can't believe he was on the undercard especially as he won performance of the night in his last fight in September. Even if he's not the best fighter he always entertains. I wonder if he's only been bumped because the Leon Edwards V Khamzat Chimaev fight got called off.

Charles Oliveira surprised me by completely dominating Tony Ferguson, i thought he could have stopped Tony Ferguson in the first round if there was a few seconds more as the armbar was nasty.

Super nasty to be honest, the armbar seems so perfect. That's why I'm wondering how did Ferguson survived it, maybe because of pride? Well, Ferguson is the type of guy blah blah blah jk .

I think he might have just been holding on for the bell which he new was coming so he had about 8 seconds to bare it. Had that not been coming I'm sure he would have tapped... or his arm snapped. One or the other  .

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I see no fire in Tony Ferguson eyes in his last two fights. Imo, he seems to fight like he is forced somehow to do it. Maybe by financial situation, maybe because he is tired to be not fighting, maybe he has not fully mentally recovered yet.

Another factor is age might be catching up with Tony Ferguson as he is 36 years and his body might not be recovering like before and the amount of damage he accumulated throughout his career might be the issue.      

Tony was loaded to fight back in 2018, during first cancelation of fight against Khabib. Now the sparkles went out. And btw, by looking how he sucked at wrestling against Oliveira and that armbar, I remember how he told Khabibs wrestling is nothing. Khabib would have submitted him in first two rounds.

If there was a fight against Khabib i will not pick Tony as i knew there is no way Tony is able to defend that but expected some slick submission attempts from the ground and against Olivera we saw one attempt but he could not lock the hold completely and against Khabib there is no way he could do when heavy punches are thrown in the ground.

I think he might have just been holding on for the bell which he new was coming so he had about 8 seconds to bare it. Had that not been coming I'm sure he would have tapped... or his arm snapped. One or the other  .

I thought his hand was compromised after that arm bar attempt as he did not throw anything with that left hand, the ego of Tony is big that he will not tap and if there was enough time he would have damaged his hand completely.

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^  Just shows that 6 months rest isn't enough after that massive beating he took from Gaethje.  He should've stayed away from the game for at least a year imho. 

And how about that Fiziev match vs Moicano.  I think we'll be seeing Fiziev at LW top 10 next year.

Khabib predicted the future of Tony Ferguson and he said he will be loosing when he fights again and he specifically said that Tony is a stupid guy as he is not smart enough and it was evident with the Gaethje fight when he unnecessarily cut weight even when the fight was called off and then returning again withing a short period again and then getting defeating again .

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Charles Oliveira surprised me by completely dominating Tony Ferguson, i thought he could have stopped Tony Ferguson in the first round if there was a few seconds more as the armbar was nasty.

I see no fire in Tony Ferguson eyes in his last two fights. Imo, he seems to fight like he is forced somehow to do it. Maybe by financial situation, maybe because he is tired to be not fighting, maybe he has not fully mentally recovered yet.

Tony was loaded to fight back in 2018, during first cancelation of fight against Khabib. Now the sparkles went out. And btw, by looking how he sucked at wrestling against Oliveira and that armbar, I remember how he told Khabibs wrestling is nothing. Khabib would have submitted him in first two rounds.

Similar to how Anderson Silva has never recovered after his first loss to Chris Weidman, I reckon we are also witnessing it with El Cucuy. He might not be the same person.

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Similar to how Anderson Silva has never recovered after his first loss to Chris Weidman, I reckon we are also witnessing it with El Cucuy. He might not be the same person.

True. I think he has not fully retired from alleging uncharacteristic behavior such as severe paranoia, not sleeping for days, tearing apart their home fireplace, and believing that a tracking chip was inserted into his leg during reconstructive knee surgery. Can a person recover from such shit in 1 month? I think he just lied to doctors or sports commission and this madness is still in head, interfering him to fight as he used to.

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^  ^  Rofl.  

There's gonna be 15, maybe 16 fights this weekend.  The roster at Wikipedia is incomplete...  Will post the complete roster later.

Who you guys got?  At first glance I like Thompson at 1.95, Williams 2.05, Tybura at 2 and Flick at 1.67.  And there's a couple of parlayable spots in there.  Gambooool.

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Jose Aldo always looks interesting to watch. How old is he now? 34, but his face looks more old. Lets see if he could compete on same level with vicious low kicks and knees, or we will se only his shadow. He is in 3 lose streak. If he losses, he would probably be fired.

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This should be full early card for UFC Fight Night 183, and please correct me if I am made any mistake.
This is 15 early fights but I am almost sure that because of stupid covid tests someone will drop out in next few days.

Stephen Thompson - Geoff Neal
Jose Aldo - Marlon Vera
Kalinn Williams - Michel Pereira
Marlon Moraes - Rob Font
Marcin Tybura - Greg Hardy
Taila Santos - Gillian Robertson
Anthony Pettis - Alex Morono
Belal Muhammad - Dhiego Lima
Pannie Kianzad - Sijara Eubanks
Karl Roberson - Dalcha Lungiambula
Deron Winn - Antonio Arroyo
Drako Rodriguez - Aiemann Zahabi
Tafon Nchukwi - Jamie Pickett
Cody Durden - Jimmy Flick
Rick Glenn - Carlton Minus

Still early for me to make any predictions but I think it's finally time for Jose Aldo to retire and this event is still a must watch for any mma fan.
Looking early bet on Kalinn 'Khaos' Williams looks nice and he is slight underdog now at bookies.

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Jose Aldo always looks interesting to watch. How old is he now? 34, but his face looks more old. Lets see if he could compete on same level with vicious low kicks and knees, or we will se only his shadow. He is in 3 lose streak. If he losses, he would probably be fired.

Jose Aldo is still young if you look at his age but he had many wars and your body can only take so much until it fades away and that is what we are seeing in his performance, he always had a lack of stamina throughout his career as he starts really well and then fades out in the later rounds but in the past he used to stand his ground but now he is struggling and he is not throwing his trademark low kicks .

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^  But against Marlon Vera, dunno..  Seems like a huge jump in competition for Vera.  I was hoping everybody would be backing Vera after winning vs the much hyped Sean O'Malley.  The line for Aldo is still juiced at 1.68.

This should be full early card for UFC Fight Night 183, and please correct me if I am made any mistake.
This is 15 early fights but I am almost sure that because of stupid covid tests someone will drop out in next few days.

Stephen Thompson - Geoff Neal
Jose Aldo - Marlon Vera
Kalinn Williams - Michel Pereira
Marlon Moraes - Rob Font
Marcin Tybura - Greg Hardy
Taila Santos - Gillian Robertson
Anthony Pettis - Alex Morono
Belal Muhammad - Dhiego Lima
Pannie Kianzad - Sijara Eubanks
Karl Roberson - Dalcha Lungiambula
Deron Winn - Antonio Arroyo
Drako Rodriguez - Aiemann Zahabi
Tafon Nchukwi - Jamie Pickett
Cody Durden - Jimmy Flick
Rick Glenn - Carlton Minus

Still early for me to make any predictions but I think it's finally time for Jose Aldo to retire and this event is still a must watch for any mma fan.
Looking early bet on Kalinn 'Khaos' Williams looks nice and he is slight underdog now at bookies.

Yup.  Belal Muhamad vs Dhiego Lima is out.  

Edit:  Vids to watch...

UFC Free Fight:  Thompson vs Luque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmIAnoEy1HM

UFC Free Fight:  Neal vs Perry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnCHGsJ66rs

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Another bout was cancelled:  Rick Glenn vs Carlton Minus.  Not really sure what the reason was but it's most likely another positive covid test.  I heard Karl Roberson might pull out too.  Reason unknown...  I think the UFC should just stay at Fight Island for the majority of events next year.  IMHO.

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Another bout was cancelled:  Rick Glenn vs Carlton Minus.  Not really sure what the reason was but it's most likely another positive covid test.  I heard Karl Roberson might pull out too.  Reason unknown...  I think the UFC should just stay at Fight Island for the majority of events next year.  IMHO.

I told you this would happen didn't I 
This is however much better situation than to have smaller fight card than usual and shorter event.
Nobody likes canceled events and even more when good fighters are dropping out, but I read that UFC is searching for someone to replace them on short notice.

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Weigh ins are live rn in case you guys are interested.  It's always good to make your last minute reads before making your bets.

UFC Las Vegas 17:  Live Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI10uGyEQeM

Edit:  Aldo didn't look too good.  Fade?

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@bbc.reporter who the heck are those guys  I can only recognize Cowboy.


Just seen the cards. So the showtime Pettis is fighting again and currently favored by bookies. Aldo too. It's nice to see two former champs fighting on the same card. I'm skipping these two but I'll check their fights.

Looks like this is Neal's fight to lose. He probably just needs one punch to connect to Thompson's glass chin or just one take down to pummel him.

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I am not certain on the 3 faces, however, the others are the bloody faces of Donald Cerrone, Rafael dos Anjos, Kevin Lee and Anthony Pettis hehehe.

In any case, agreed on your statement on Geoff Neal. He also has 5 rounds for his fist to connect to Wonderboy's chin hehe.

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Placed 2 bets for today's UFC Fight Night:

Jose Aldo - Marlon Vera: My bet
Stephen Thompson - Geoff Neal: My bet

As for me Scarface Aldo has much more chances to win today, 3 defeats in a row mean that today Aldo will have a very difficult and important fight to stay in UFC. Thompson is UFC's veteran and good striker, both as Neal, who ends his fights mostly with TKO's, but nevertheless Stephenson has much more experience, while competing in UFC. 

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https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1340326023846649857

Final poster released for this UFC event and I think we are safe to say there will be no more canceled fights and we can close year 2020 in a good style.

I would suggest not missing fight Khaos Williams vs Michel Pereira because I expect to see some crazy moves and explosions from both fighters and bookmakers have almost equal odds for them.
I would give slight advantage to Khaos Williamas but anything can happen in this fight.

One of my pick will be Jimmy Flick win by submission against Cody Durden.
He won most of his fights in that style and earned his place in UFC after great performance in  Dana White Contender series.

I am also betting against Jose Aldo and even if bookies see him as favorite here I think this fight will be his last fight in UFC after 4th defeat in a row.
Marlon Vera win for me, and I would like to have live betting for this.

Fights are staring in few hour and you can check countdown here:
https://www.countdownmma.com/

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UFC 257 Results

Main Card

Stephen Thompson def. Geoff Neal via UD (50-45 x3)
Jose Aldo def. Marlon Vera via unanimous decision (29-28 x3)
Michel Pereira def. Khaos Williams via unanimous decision (29-28 x3)
Rob Font def. Marlon Moraes via first-round TKO (3:47)
Marcin Tybura def. Greg Hardy via second-round TKO (4:31)

Preliminary Card

Anthony Pettis def. Alex Morono via unanimous decision (29-28 x3)
Pannie Kianzad def. Sijara Eubanks via unanimous decision (29-28 x3)
Deron Winn def. Antonio Arroyo via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Taila Santos def. Gillian Robertson via unanimous decision (30-26, 30-26, 29-28)
Tafon Nchukwi def. Jamie Pickett via unanimous decision (30-25, 30-26, 30-26)
Jimmy Flick def. Cody Durden via submission (triangle choke) - Round 1, 3:18
Christos Giagos def. Carlton Minus via unanimous decision (30-26, 29-27, 29-28)

Welp, not expecting the main event to go the distance. How did your bet/s go for this event?

Nice to see former champs win (Pettis & Aldo). After winning, Aldo has called out Dillashaw as he returns from suspension next year. That match up looks good on paper at least.

See you next year folks! Hopefully we don't get more cancelled/scrapped fights.