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May 31, 2021, 12:19:34 PM
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Who you guys got for the main event?  I’m thinking Sakai via decision at 4.5.  Not sure how much the price is at crypto books when they open.

https://www.bestfightodds.com/

And I don’t think I’ll be having strong opinions in most of these bouts.  But I’ll be fading Tybura and Baeza.  Harris is somewhat of a step up for Tybura and same for Ponz vs Baeza.

UFC Free Fight:  Sakai vs Sherman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJNdSL4FArc

UFC Free Fight:  Rozenstuik vs Dos Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVYxy123MZQ

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May 31, 2021, 01:16:15 PM
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So something that came out of left field, did anyone see that Rockhold is training with Jason Parillo and with Bisping? Smiley Bisping is not training actively anymore, but he is still there when Bisping is. The comments on Bispings Instagram post about Rockhold glass chin are hilarious. What's next, Khabib and Conor going on vacation together? Can't wait for those photos.
Michael Bisping is a really cool person and he is usually friendly if you are not his opponent and Luke Rockhold is now training in his gym and with Michael Bisping retired there is no point in having that heat and there are videos of them together joking around but the situation with Khabib is different, he does have a group of individuals who he considered as family and there is no way Khabib and Conor are going to be friends  Cheesy.

But we can not say for sure if Khabib or Conor is secretly exchanging message that they might be best buddies in something, well there is sure bad blood between both men back on UFC 229 where Conor Mc Gregor threw things like a Trash can, chair, hand truck on Khabib's bus that have led them to UFC 229, Maybe this is just a marketing stunt or true bad blood, but after a while, Conor Mc Gregor has congratulated and says his condolences to Khabib Nurmagomenovod when he won against Justin Gaethje and announcing his retirement,



I am not so sure and I may be wrong but this is just a maybe that these two athletes can sure coexist as a friendly rivalry.

eh, I just think Conor never wants fully close doors on potential business ventures, and by that I mean the Conor Khabib rematch. I am not saying it will ever happen, I am just saying it does not take much of Conor's time to keep himself and his potential fights in people's minds. I think it's actually smart, he knows what he's doing. Will it be of any use, well that's another story.

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eh, I just think Conor never wants fully close doors on potential business ventures, and by that I mean the Conor Khabib rematch. I am not saying it will ever happen, I am just saying it does not take much of Conor's time to keep himself and his potential fights in people's minds. I think it's actually smart, he knows what he's doing. Will it be of any use, well that's another story.

Conor Mc Gregor knows what he is really doing on part of what he knows he surely will still get mistakes he surely wants that rematch but apparently, he can not get it but sho knows maybe there will be a time that Khabib Nurmagomenodov change his mind that he truly enjoys fighting and he misses the smell of victory but let's just wait and see,

In my part, I really am missing Khabib Nurmagomenodov style in the ring I got the itch when I could not see that fighting style of his, when I first saw how he fight I am amazed at its unique way and how he executes I really am amazed at fighters that have a unique style and technique.
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May 31, 2021, 07:14:18 PM
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In my part, I really am missing Khabib Nurmagomenodov style in the ring I got the itch when I could not see that fighting style of his, when I first saw how he fight I am amazed at its unique way and how he executes I really am amazed at fighters that have a unique style and technique.
I am also disappointing with the retirement of Khabib Nurmagomedov as i thought he would continue for the next couple of years cementing his legacy and thereby giving us a good bet to wage as well and now he is gone and Jon Jones is not fighting and even if he comes he is coming as a Heavyweight which is not going to be easy for him either.

If you are really looking forward to the fighting style of Khabib look after Islam Makhachev he has the same style of Khabib Nurmagomedov and another similar fighter is Khamzat Chimaev.
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May 31, 2021, 10:27:45 PM
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Jon Jones is the best fighter we have seen and no one will have a debate about that, Jon Jones is in a position where he fights whenever he likes and it has everything to do with the personal issues he had in the past. Anderson Silva and GSP was the fight everyone wanted to see but that never happened and there is no way Anderson Silva would pose any challenge to Jon Jones even in his prime and Jon Jones had a strong line of challengers in his division and it was one of the toughest division when he was the champion.
One of the very top fighters no doubt, but I'm sure there are arguments, and people who would argue that he isn't the best of all time. Khabib, I think rightfully deserves to be in the argument, despite maybe not having the most pleasing stand up game.

I do believe GSP would have a shout for being one of the best too. However, Jon Jones might just take that if you were to pit them against each other.
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eh, I just think Conor never wants fully close doors on potential business ventures, and by that I mean the Conor Khabib rematch. I am not saying it will ever happen, I am just saying it does not take much of Conor's time to keep himself and his potential fights in people's minds. I think it's actually smart, he knows what he's doing. Will it be of any use, well that's another story.

Conor Mc Gregor knows what he is really doing on part of what he knows he surely will still get mistakes he surely wants that rematch but apparently, he can not get it but sho knows maybe there will be a time that Khabib Nurmagomenodov change his mind that he truly enjoys fighting and he misses the smell of victory but let's just wait and see,

In my part, I really am missing Khabib Nurmagomenodov style in the ring I got the itch when I could not see that fighting style of his, when I first saw how he fight I am amazed at its unique way and how he executes I really am amazed at fighters that have a unique style and technique.

I really hpše he stays retired. If he never retired, then yes, by all means, keep on fighting, but his absence actually opened up the division and made it a bit more exciting. The power vacuum made some interesting fights and seems it's still in some interesting turmpil. If Khabib returns, he should for a superlight, not the regular rankongs.

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June 01, 2021, 10:55:56 PM
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^  Well he did have a good start.  He was undefeated, gifted, good looking and had a good image back then.  But he f*cked it all up in one night.  That’s why the UFC will never ever pay him at the price he wants.  He could’ve been the poster boy of the UFC.

Anyway, everybody should go watch this match again.  It was close between Adesnya and Vettori.  Vettori priced at 3ish maybe slightly more in some books could be value.

UFC Free Fight:  Adesanya vs Vettori 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hhysnRDZM
Thank you for the video,  I hope Adesanya vs Vettori 2 next week for UFC263 will be a little bit more spicy than this one.
At least there will be 2 more rounds, so we can expect a victory without a judges decision. I'm surprised the first bout wasn't entitled as a co-main event while it took place during a fight night (UFC on Fox 29)

Bookmakers are seeing Adesanya as a pretty big favorite @1.38 vs @3.4 for Vettori
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/israel-adesanya-v-marvin-vettori/winner
And there is naturally a promotion from Stake for its ambassador : If Adesanya loses bets on him will be refunded (risk free bet!)

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June 02, 2021, 05:24:00 AM
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^  Well he did have a good start.  He was undefeated, gifted, good looking and had a good image back then.  But he f*cked it all up in one night.  That’s why the UFC will never ever pay him at the price he wants.  He could’ve been the poster boy of the UFC.

Anyway, everybody should go watch this match again.  It was close between Adesnya and Vettori.  Vettori priced at 3ish maybe slightly more in some books could be value.

UFC Free Fight:  Adesanya vs Vettori 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hhysnRDZM
Thank you for the video,  I hope Adesanya vs Vettori 2 next week for UFC263 will be a little bit more spicy than this one.
At least there will be 2 more rounds, so we can expect a victory without a judges decision. I'm surprised the first bout wasn't entitled as a co-main event while it took place during a fight night (UFC on Fox 29)

Bookmakers are seeing Adesanya as a pretty big favorite @1.38 vs @3.4 for Vettori
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/israel-adesanya-v-marvin-vettori/winner
And there is naturally a promotion from Stake for its ambassador : If Adesanya loses bets on him will be refunded (risk free bet!)

its the main event this time. stake and adesanya both benefited from the promotion.

that extra 2 rounds will be a disaster for vettori if the fight strategy will still be the same, 3 rounds is exhausting enough. adesanya is back to a weight class where he is comfortable. yep i could agree this is a risk fee bet vettori is just too slow that adesanya could bend over to avoid his headkick.

also excited to Figueiredo vs Moreno 2 which is the co-main event. their first fight was also good.









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June 02, 2021, 12:51:43 PM
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In my part, I really am missing Khabib Nurmagomenodov style in the ring I got the itch when I could not see that fighting style of his, when I first saw how he fight I am amazed at its unique way and how he executes I really am amazed at fighters that have a unique style and technique.
I am also disappointing with the retirement of Khabib Nurmagomedov as i thought he would continue for the next couple of years cementing his legacy and thereby giving us a good bet to wage as well and now he is gone and Jon Jones is not fighting and even if he comes he is coming as a Heavyweight which is not going to be easy for him either.

If you are really looking forward to the fighting style of Khabib look after Islam Makhachev he has the same style of Khabib Nurmagomedov and another similar fighter is Khamzat Chimaev.

That is how it is a man always need to keep his promise to his beloved mother I am just missing how the way he fights and pretty much curious in the fact that is there no one that could ever beat him in his style, and surely I would miss the excitement when he is fighting and while I am having a bet for sure, the way that it feels will be sorely missed And speaking of Jon Jones he will surely be having a hard time in the heavyweight division but I guess that is how it is,

Oh! I think I have seen Khamzat Chimaev's style but I don't recall any Islam Makhachev, but I will surely look down on it, and Khamzat Chimaev may have a little similarity with Khabib Nurmagomedov's style but there is something still lacking, but I think he could not surely copy that because they are still different in many aspect and ways.
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June 02, 2021, 03:29:42 PM
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^  Well he did have a good start.  He was undefeated, gifted, good looking and had a good image back then.  But he f*cked it all up in one night.  That’s why the UFC will never ever pay him at the price he wants.  He could’ve been the poster boy of the UFC.

Anyway, everybody should go watch this match again.  It was close between Adesnya and Vettori.  Vettori priced at 3ish maybe slightly more in some books could be value.

UFC Free Fight:  Adesanya vs Vettori 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hhysnRDZM
Thank you for the video,  I hope Adesanya vs Vettori 2 next week for UFC263 will be a little bit more spicy than this one.
At least there will be 2 more rounds, so we can expect a victory without a judges decision. I'm surprised the first bout wasn't entitled as a co-main event while it took place during a fight night (UFC on Fox 29)

Bookmakers are seeing Adesanya as a pretty big favorite @1.38 vs @3.4 for Vettori
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/israel-adesanya-v-marvin-vettori/winner
And there is naturally a promotion from Stake for its ambassador : If Adesanya loses bets on him will be refunded (risk free bet!)

How much is the max bet?  Some people could game the offer by betting on Adesanya and hedge that bet by betting on Vettori at another book or something.

But dunno...  I kinda lean Vettori at 3.4 here.  I think it should be closer.

Edit:  And I lean Walt Harris too.  Not sure what the line is but last time I looked he’s the underdog too.  Tybura is chinny.  Harris has a tendency to explode and go right at it.  Watch Harris vs Overeem. 

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June 02, 2021, 03:48:56 PM
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That is how it is a man always need to keep his promise to his beloved mother I am just missing how the way he fights and pretty much curious in the fact that is there no one that could ever beat him in his style, and surely I would miss the excitement when he is fighting and while I am having a bet for sure, the way that it feels will be sorely missed And speaking of Jon Jones he will surely be having a hard time in the heavyweight division but I guess that is how it is
I respect everything Khabib Nurmagomedov does and he is a breath of fresh air who does not go after money but rather sticking on to his words is a new in this day and age.  The UFC and Dana White do not want to allow Jon Jones to dictate his future and his biggest mistake was when he vacated the Light Heavyweight title and now he does not have any leverage to negotiate.

Oh! I think I have seen Khamzat Chimaev's style but I don't recall any Islam Makhachev, but I will surely look down on it, and Khamzat Chimaev may have a little similarity with Khabib Nurmagomedov's style but there is something still lacking, but I think he could not surely copy that because they are still different in many aspect and ways.
Khamzat Chimaev is a good striker with knockout power as well as a great ground fighter with submission skills and i am expecting him to be the champion in the next two years and the fighting style of Islam Makhachev is similar to Khabib Nurmagomedov because his father was the mentor to Islam as well and he has the potential to become the champion as well.
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I respect everything Khabib Nurmagomedov does and he is a breath of fresh air who does not go after money but rather sticking on to his words is a new in this day and age.  The UFC and Dana White do not want to allow Jon Jones to dictate his future and his biggest mistake was when he vacated the Light Heavyweight title and now he does not have any leverage to negotiate.

You can say that again he is surely a breath of fresh air if I want to look for a fight that is unique and have a solid foundation I would just look at matches of Khabib Nurmagomedov and respect to his decision in retiring, I think he truly wants to go further in the UFC but for his mothers only wish he just let it all go, And for Jones, there is no more negotiation left its either he will submit to what Dana White wants or just remain untitled.

Khamzat Chimaev is a good striker with knockout power as well as a great ground fighter with submission skills and i am expecting him to be the champion in the next two years and the fighting style of Islam Makhachev is similar to Khabib Nurmagomedov because his father was the mentor to Islam as well and he has the potential to become the champion as well.

Khamzat Chimaev, surely have the striking and on fighting an opponent on the ground he is truly remarkable it just that for me Khabib Nurmagomedov will truly remain number one in my opinion, but will surely look forward to checking his fights in more improvements on his style,

Wow! just wow, Islam Makhachev really have been trained by Khabib Nurmagomedovs father, looking at his fights is like Khabib is looking at the mirror, the way he gets his lock done I think Islam Makhachev will really come a long way, I should say this is the dedication that Makhachev can do that, Thanks for sharing this I will look more further on Islam Makhachev for now.

Another fighter I am eyeing right now is Jiri Prochazka men his movements was slick I am like watching a Yuri Boyka wanna be but in real life.
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June 02, 2021, 11:45:38 PM
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^  Well he did have a good start.  He was undefeated, gifted, good looking and had a good image back then.  But he f*cked it all up in one night.  That’s why the UFC will never ever pay him at the price he wants.  He could’ve been the poster boy of the UFC.

Anyway, everybody should go watch this match again.  It was close between Adesnya and Vettori.  Vettori priced at 3ish maybe slightly more in some books could be value.

UFC Free Fight:  Adesanya vs Vettori 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hhysnRDZM
Thank you for the video,  I hope Adesanya vs Vettori 2 next week for UFC263 will be a little bit more spicy than this one.
At least there will be 2 more rounds, so we can expect a victory without a judges decision. I'm surprised the first bout wasn't entitled as a co-main event while it took place during a fight night (UFC on Fox 29)

Bookmakers are seeing Adesanya as a pretty big favorite @1.38 vs @3.4 for Vettori
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/israel-adesanya-v-marvin-vettori/winner
And there is naturally a promotion from Stake for its ambassador : If Adesanya loses bets on him will be refunded (risk free bet!)

How much is the max bet?  Some people could game the offer by betting on Adesanya and hedge that bet by betting on Vettori at another book or something.

But dunno...  I kinda lean Vettori at 3.4 here.  I think it should be closer.

Edit:  And I lean Walt Harris too.  Not sure what the line is but last time I looked he’s the underdog too.  Tybura is chinny.  Harris has a tendency to explode and go right at it.  Watch Harris vs Overeem. 
The refund is 50$ maximum, and yes you're right it could be a good idea to bet on his opponent on another sportsbook(the promotion doesn't allow to bet on both sides ) but if Adesanya wins you won't make much profit because the bet on Marvin Vettori won't be refunded.


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June 03, 2021, 08:46:13 AM
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UFC Fight Night: Rozenstruik VS Sakai

This is my picks and what I think with the Co-main and the Main events first is

Walt Harris VS Marcin Tybura

Marcin Tybura might pull a takedown and may take this fight on the ground, his opponent has a good record on only wining a KO/TKO well Harris needs to TKO Tybura first before Marcin Tybura can get a takedown, and because Walt Harris sometimes have a good defense when it comes to takedowns but if Harris can not get to Tybura fast enough I think that Marcin Tybura can last long in a longer fight than Walt Harris, I am not so sure if Harris can have enough cardio to last in a longer fight and Marcin Tybura does fight on the ground even though it is not a Khabib level of takedowns his opponent's momentum would surely get distracted so my pick will be Marcin Tybura to win this fight with submission and here are the odds on stake.com



Jairzinho Rozenstruik VS Augusto Sakai

First looking at Rozenstruik fight with Ciryl Gane he is not that good and looks timid when fighting Gane, while Sakai even though he lost to Overeem he still looks devastating in my opinion, but again I think that these two have pretty much in common when it comes to their style and at first, I can not decide on who's going to win this because both are partly that good, at first the odd was in favor of Sakai but it then shifted to Rozenstruik, I would take a risk here and go with Sakai for that good return base on the odds on the stake.com

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June 03, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
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I'm so glad we've got some UFC back this weekend. Here's my main predictions for it:

Jairzinho Rozenstruik by knockout
Marcin Tybura by knockout
Roman Dolidze by decision
Tom Breese by decision

I do think there will be quite a few knockouts this weekend looking at the card. Although, I'm not quite sure which way it will go for a lot of the fights. I'll probably post another set of predictions  for the rest of the fights leading up to Saturday.
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June 03, 2021, 01:38:41 PM
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^  Another option is if Harris goes for it like he did Overeem but doesn’t finish Tybura in the first round, live bet Tybura could be a good idea.  Tybura prolly be a 2.5 underdog by then in between rounds.  Harris is very poor cardio.  

And if books start opening lines on the over 2.5 or over 3.5 rounds for the main event it could also be a good idea to go for the over.  Roz is a slow starter and really I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a boring fight.

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June 03, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
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^  Another option is if Harris goes for it like he did Overeem but doesn’t finish Tybura in the first round, live bet Tybura could be a good idea.  Tybura prolly be a 2.5 underdog by then in between rounds.  Harris is very poor cardio.  

And if books start opening lines on the over 2.5 or over 3.5 rounds for the main event it could also be a good idea to go for the over.  Roz is a slow starter and really I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a boring fight.

I kinda hope he learned something from the Reem fight, but for a Uni basketball player, I am always surprised by his cardio, or lack of it. And yes, it's not the same, it does not transition well to boxing or wrestling, but some should. If hee pull something from his ass and upsets Tybura, he would actually make a statement by ending his win streek (Tyburas)

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June 03, 2021, 04:30:10 PM
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I'm so glad we've got some UFC back this weekend. Here's my main predictions for it:

Jairzinho Rozenstruik by knockout
Marcin Tybura by knockout
Roman Dolidze by decision
Tom Breese by decision

I do think there will be quite a few knockouts this weekend looking at the card. Although, I'm not quite sure which way it will go for a lot of the fights. I'll probably post another set of predictions  for the rest of the fights leading up to Saturday.

Good conclusion with picking Rozenstruik I am pretty not sure who to pick between the two so I have gone to the Sakai who is not in favor with the odds and settle a risky bet on him, and Tybura would likely even knock out Harris but I am going with submission it is unlikely to distract Harris and try to stop his momentum and this may exhaust Harris aswell, well I am focused with the Main and Co-main fights and will surely bet a small amount for it because I don't really want to research that much and will just focus on the two fights, again good picks in my opinion.
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June 03, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
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^  Another option is if Harris goes for it like he did Overeem but doesn’t finish Tybura in the first round, live bet Tybura could be a good idea.  Tybura prolly be a 2.5 underdog by then in between rounds.  Harris is very poor cardio.  

And if books start opening lines on the over 2.5 or over 3.5 rounds for the main event it could also be a good idea to go for the over.  Roz is a slow starter and really I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a boring fight.

I kinda hope he learned something from the Reem fight, but for a Uni basketball player, I am always surprised by his cardio, or lack of it. And yes, it's not the same, it does not transition well to boxing or wrestling, but some should. If hee pull something from his ass and upsets Tybura, he would actually make a statement by ending his win streek (Tyburas)

I think the match is more of a test for Tybura imho.  Harris has more experience in fighting the ranked guys at HW tho he lost them.  And he just wasn’t given any favors with the tough match up vs Volkov.  That match being right after a loss to Overeem and all.  

So things to watch in that bout are Tybura’s chin in the first round.  If it holds up, Harris’ cardio at the later rounds.

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June 03, 2021, 08:49:23 PM
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Before making any bets and prediction for upcoming UFC Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai event check out video interviews from most of the fighters on this fight card.
It's not easy to predict winner for main event and odds are similar but Rozenstruik is slight favorite and I would give him small advantage to win in this fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpLi2K7Uwu4&list=PLd6a8WJ3Y1cnhizzolyeBfwD-E3r0heY3

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