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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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March 23, 2022, 04:07:57 PM
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For Chelsea, this may be the first time they have met a team that is strong enough in the Champions League this season because in the previous phase they could be said to be quite the underdog team because they always met the easier team.
Every Chelsea match that has been passed, Chelsea always displays a strong performance to win without measuring the rating of the opposing football club, because all clubs as strong challengers have the potential to beat chelsea if a comparative analysis is in the rankings, it will end like Real Madrid's defeat against PSG, chances within 90 minutes the match can change the direction of victory beyond prediction. Chelsea must win in the first leg at Stamford Bridge in the knockout phase against Real Madrid on April 6, according to former midfielder Joe Cole said not much has changed in the game with Real Madrid since last season's semi-final, he is optimistic The Blues will win the game, but of course his analysis is not correct, the Real Madrid demanded revenge to beat Chelsea this season.
Yes, last season Chelsea managed to beat Real Madrid in the semifinals, and now Chelsea will play again against Madrid and I don't think there is much change in the Chelsea squad, only Chelsea this season is much better. But anyway, we also can't underestimate Madrid even though in reality Madrid only relies on Benzema, but Madrid still has many good players. So yes, Both still have a chance to win, but in the end I only believe Chelsea will qualify for the semifinals and sorry for Madrid, maybe this will be the second time in a row they have been knocked out by Chelsea under Tuchel.
Tuchel has always given something positive to Chelsea's strategy and this has been the case during his time in charge and I really appreciate that too.
On the other hand I agree with what you said that Madrid's dependence on Benzema is really difficult to get rid of and indeed it has proven to this day when Benzema is not around. The other players are so confused like chicks looking for their mother.
I think it depends on how prepared and the strategy will be, although in this case it can be said that Chelsea is better but I will probably be in the Madrid camp

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March 23, 2022, 04:38:25 PM
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but what will Chelsea do next year?
for this year he was given the extension .. but what happens next?
it is absurd what happens (for the fans) and who knows how they will solve it

what a mess these days with the war in ukraine\

I also think it will be interesting to see what happens to Chelsea after this season. Even though Abramovich is a oligarch i think he was a great investor for Chelsea who did not invest into the club to make money with it but to help the club become one of the strongest teams in Europe. If i remember correctly then Chelsea was just an average Premier League club before Abramovich came.
So it will be interesting to see what happens when there is a new investor. Will he, just like Abramovich, also pump money from his own pocket into the club in order to stay competitive or will he just buy the shares from Abramovich and that's it? If the latter is the case then i don't think that Chelsea can stay one of the top clubs of Europe.
Investing is one thing, investing wisely is another thing altogether. Chelsea can still find a way to stay very much competitive even if the new owner does not plunder in money into the club like Roman did. The only way this can work is if the club invest wisely in the transfer market. Liverpool fc are example of a club that do not invest crazily in the transfer market but have continued to stay very much relevant in recent years. If chelsea are to follow in their footpath, I don't see any major changes to how competitive Chelsea can be. If they can also keep Thomas tuchel who seems to be on the best coaches in the world, they will maintain their competitive nature.

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March 23, 2022, 04:48:36 PM
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but what will Chelsea do next year?
for this year he was given the extension .. but what happens next?
it is absurd what happens (for the fans) and who knows how they will solve it

what a mess these days with the war in ukraine\
Hopefully this will not be a significant gap later.
This condition really makes Chelsea affected at least until next season and it is also possible that they will also be different from before.
Now they have been affected even if I am not mistaken in seeing the news they are now being threatened with not being able to make purchases in the transfer season and not being able to make new contracts with players who are out of contract.
This would be very detrimental in my opinion.
I think Chelsea's sale will be completed soon. With the new team leader, all problems are solved. I wonder if Saudi prince Salman, who has now bought Newcastle United, will make an attempt for Chelsea as well. An attempt can be made for Chelsea from countries such as Qatar.

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March 23, 2022, 05:13:02 PM
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Just a quick reminder to everyone :

Real Madrid never beat Chelsea in an official international playoff competition so maybe this year they can break the curse ? To be honest , Chelsea can play the best football in the world when they want so it's really up to their players if they want to win or not.

When it comes to Real Madrid , we all know that they can win against anyone no matter what squad they have ...it's simple in their ADN as a football club.

For me, Chelsea is obviously a better team than Real Madrid but in the big matches Real Madrid has always proved to be successful and that is also, especially in the Champions League.

I got Real Madrid will not be able to beat PSG but they did prove me wrong. and I really don't want to be proved wrong again. but I certainly think that Chelsea has a better squad. and if Real Madrid beat Chelsea it will be amazing.
Well, they are absolutely right about it, Real Madrid has a lot that does not do a feat like that, but as Real Madrid has already shown against PSG, things in football can happen no matter what, PSG for me is the strongest team in the world and I don't know if it's because Neymar Jr and Messi are going through a bad time, but I think things can't be reduced to that, the only thing they need to enter there is CR7 and I don't think that scenario it is possible to see all those players there, on the other hand Benzema is flying for me, nothing matters to him, he will only score, besides all the support he has is based on his team, I think this match with Chelsea will be something of a no-go be lost.


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March 23, 2022, 05:54:01 PM
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Fun fact: Spain also now has three clubs in the quarter-finals. But no one pays much attention to this, because apart from Real Madrid, the rest of the teams look like outsiders in their pairs. But this is football and knockout matches, so each team has a chance against each and purely statistically in one of the 4 pairs we should see a big surprise.
Representatives from England are now kings of Europe, it is proven that 3 teams from England have made it to the quarter-finals, it is very likely that 2 representatives from England will advance to the semi-finals, because Man City and Liferpol are facing a team that is below their level, but Chelsea is facing a difficult team. But if Real Madrid plays like they did against Barca, I'm sure Chelsea will win easily. If there's no banzema, it's certain that Real Madrid will be overwhelmed by Chelsea in the quarter-finals. Hopefully, all English teams can qualify for the semi-finals, as happened last year. then.

It seems that you continue not to notice that the representation of Spain is not lower than the representation of England at this stage  Roll Eyes
As for Real - Chelsea, it seems to me that the top 1 of Spain should easily beat the top 3 of England, which, by the way, got into a difficult situation due to politics.
By the way, why Liferpool? I looked at the history of your posts, you always call this club that.

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March 23, 2022, 06:02:58 PM
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Manchester City - Atletico Madrid is another interesting draw to me. But it is not too hard to predict like the one between Chelsea and Real Madrid. Manchester City are a certain favourite team in this draw. But the reason why it is interesting to me is that Manchester City wouldn't have a very comfortable round this time like they had against Sporting. So I don't expect them to win by an absurd goal gap in any of the legs of this draw. And the game in Spain could even end in a draw. But Manchester City would still finish the job in Etihad.

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March 23, 2022, 07:14:20 PM
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I think Chelsea's sale will be completed soon. With the new team leader, all problems are solved. I wonder if Saudi prince Salman, who has now bought Newcastle United, will make an attempt for Chelsea as well. An attempt can be made for Chelsea from countries such as Qatar.
Is it allowed to have 2 clubs which if they meet what will happen? game scores can be manipulated?

In my opinion, even if it was allowed, it would still be very unethical for the stability of the game in the League. Apart from inviting bad issues, prince Salman may be more focused on building Newcastle with a formation of quality players and making it a club that can compete more competitively.

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March 23, 2022, 07:21:00 PM
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I feel like we are going to have a Liverpool - Manchester City finale in the Champions League. I know that it is early to make predictions like this. Because we don't know even whether both of them can make it to the title. But I just think that both of them will reach that round. Liverpool will eliminate Benfica first and then face Bayern Munich. And I would expect Liverpool to get past them as well even if they have a big difficulty. And Manchester City would eliminate Atletico Madrid first. Then they would have their revenge on Chelsea or eliminate Real Madrid after a solid matchup. And maybe this would be the time for even Manchester City to win the title finally.
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I feel like we are going to have a Liverpool - Manchester City finale in the Champions League. I know that it is early to make predictions like this. Because we don't know even whether both of them can make it to the title. But I just think that both of them will reach that round. Liverpool will eliminate Benfica first and then face Bayern Munich. And I would expect Liverpool to get past them as well even if they have a big difficulty. And Manchester City would eliminate Atletico Madrid first. Then they would have their revenge on Chelsea or eliminate Real Madrid after a solid matchup. And maybe this would be the time for even Manchester City to win the title finally.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Bayern Munich is a very good team. Then they would have to be eliminated in the semi-finals. I rate Bayern higher than Liverpool, but 50-50 against Man City. Man City Liverpool looks like a 50-50 game to me. Probably no one wants a match that is all English. I would rather see Bayern - City. I remember a while ago that Bayern blew City completely away in Manchester but that is about 10 years ago.

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March 23, 2022, 08:07:12 PM
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I also think it will be interesting to see what happens to Chelsea after this season. Even though Abramovich is a oligarch i think he was a great investor for Chelsea who did not invest into the club to make money with it but to help the club become one of the strongest teams in Europe. If i remember correctly then Chelsea was just an average Premier League club before Abramovich came.
So it will be interesting to see what happens when there is a new investor. Will he, just like Abramovich, also pump money from his own pocket into the club in order to stay competitive or will he just buy the shares from Abramovich and that's it? If the latter is the case then i don't think that Chelsea can stay one of the top clubs of Europe.
Investing is one thing, investing wisely is another thing altogether. Chelsea can still find a way to stay very much competitive even if the new owner does not plunder in money into the club like Roman did. The only way this can work is if the club invest wisely in the transfer market. Liverpool fc are example of a club that do not invest crazily in the transfer market but have continued to stay very much relevant in recent years. If chelsea are to follow in their footpath, I don't see any major changes to how competitive Chelsea can be. If they can also keep Thomas tuchel who seems to be on the best coaches in the world, they will maintain their competitive nature.

For Chelsea in my opinion it will be wise to not get crazy in the transfer market for a while. they have a good set of players in my opinion and they should make intelligent moves in the transfer market.

We did see a lot of the clubs go broke recently. so, they might need to be careful. But, it will be interesting to see if Chelsea is going to be invested money to get a better player or they wanted to be a money-making machine by the new investor.

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I don't think that Manchester City will be in a big trouble against Atletico Madrid in the quarter finals.
I don't think so too, no disrespect to Athletico Madrid but i believe City will be too strong for them and i expect the champions of England to progress to the next round, Athletico will come into the game with a defensive mindset for sure, just as they always do, and i think that will be their own undoing as City will throw everything at them and get a couple of goals. Having said that, if Athletico are to have any chance in this game then they must change their philosophy of parking the bus, if they come into this game with that tactic, they are going to get beat pretty well.

Parking the bus wouldn't help them much against a very strong attacking team like Manchester City. Atletico Madrid just need to answer them with a similar strategy to catch Manchester City players and Guardiola by surprise. Because their game plan is already very predictable now. And a manager like Guardiola would a find a way to benefit from their weaknesses surely. Maybe Atletico Madrid's usual game plan would work out in their home game. But I don't think so in Manchester City's stadium.

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March 23, 2022, 08:54:30 PM
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I don't think that Manchester City will be in a big trouble against Atletico Madrid in the quarter finals.
I don't think so too, no disrespect to Athletico Madrid but i believe City will be too strong for them and i expect the champions of England to progress to the next round, Athletico will come into the game with a defensive mindset for sure, just as they always do, and i think that will be their own undoing as City will throw everything at them and get a couple of goals. Having said that, if Athletico are to have any chance in this game then they must change their philosophy of parking the bus, if they come into this game with that tactic, they are going to get beat pretty well.

Parking the bus wouldn't help them much against a very strong attacking team like Manchester City. Atletico Madrid just need to answer them with a similar strategy to catch Manchester City players and Guardiola by surprise. Because their game plan is already very predictable now. And a manager like Guardiola would a find a way to benefit from their weaknesses surely. Maybe Atletico Madrid's usual game plan would work out in their home game. But I don't think so in Manchester City's stadium.

If they respond with the same attacking strategy the game sure will be more beautiful to watch but in the end Atletico Madrid will be the ones suffering,you can't play that open against a team from the Premier League,let alone against one of the best teams of the Premier League as the English football mentality is an open beautiful football and they will totally dominate the game if Atletico starts to play openly.
Guardiola is well known for the ball possession to be high in every team he has coached.The only chance Atletico has is to defend and hope in some productive counter attacks.

Atletico may try to defend in England and letting everything to solve in the return leg in which they will play at home,this can be a good strategy.

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March 23, 2022, 08:57:40 PM
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For Chelsea in my opinion it will be wise to not get crazy in the transfer market for a while. they have a good set of players in my opinion and they should make intelligent moves in the transfer market.

Haven't the injury taught you anything, Chelsea don't have an indepth squad and if we want to keep our winning spirit high and complete with the likes of Liverpool and Manchester CIty and other top team both in champions and premier league, we have to go get better players. We just have average players with a good manager that knows how to get the best out of them, that has just been our savior this season. Since James and Chilwell got injured we lost focus, before we were talked about as potential challengers for our local league but since we had nobody to fill this guys shoes, the team began lacking goals.

The game against Real Madrid, I see Chelsea progressing as we can easily outplayed them just as we did last season. We have a more disciplined defense then them and also a dominating midfield. Where Real Madrid has an advantage is their striker but we also have Kai picking up some form and with the right approach to the game, we'll win.

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For Chelsea in my opinion it will be wise to not get crazy in the transfer market for a while. they have a good set of players in my opinion and they should make intelligent moves in the transfer market.

Haven't the injury taught you anything, Chelsea don't have an indepth squad and if we want to keep our winning spirit high and complete with the likes of Liverpool and Manchester city, we have to go get better players. We just have average players with a good manager that knows how to get the best out of them, that has just been our savior this season. Since James and Chilwell got injured we lost focus, before we were talked about as potential challengers for our local league but since we had nobody to fill this guys shoes, the team began lacking goals.

The game against Real Madrid, I see Chelsea progressing as we can easily outplayed them just as we did last season. We have a more disciplined defense then them and also a dominating midfield. Where Real Madrid has an advantage is their striker but we also have Kai picking up some form and with the right approach to the game, we'll win.

Manchester City in particular has a very broad and strong squad. If van Dijk drops out at the back of Liverpool, then they also have a serious problem. Man City seem to be able to absorb injuries a little better. I don't think just because of the players, but because they have a better team collectively. Liverpool is too dependent on certain players, and Chelsea have that problem too. Real Madrid also have a nice bench, but are not as good as a team at times, as they were against Barcelona last week.

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March 23, 2022, 09:13:18 PM
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I think ok, this is going to be a hard nut to crack for everyone and the actual result of this match we will be able to get is after the match. otherwise, anything we predict can go wrong. 
all I know is both the teams have the capability to win and advance to the next stage, both teams seem to be at the same level of performance right now. Even though the loss against Barcelona might feel a little harsh for Real Madrid fans, that math was not their main focus in my opinion. because they have to be ready for Chelsea in the Champions League.
We have four quarter-finals with all eight teams done some good work for reaching out here and prediction is not easy for any teams specially after watching last game between Real Madrid vs PSG because any team can change things in very quick way with their own ability currently two matches are surely having some good talk and both are from England and Spain first Real Madrid vs Chelsea most feeling Real Madrid have good chance.
But, many change their view after Real Madrid vs Barcelona game but here nothing is sure as these are quality teams with extraordinary players those are having talent to ruin any team right now any prediction is not easy in these both matches we have more than 2 weeks, so hopefully all will be good and interesting for fans.

Agreed but Real Madrid should not think about the match against Barcelona (0-4), because Real Madrid has a really comfortable spot in La Liga right now, and the main target of Real Madrid is to end the La Liga season by being the champion of La Liga. Also, be the winners of the Champions League. and the Champions League is the main target for Real Madrid.



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Without a doubt the match of Real Madrid and Chelsea is the most difficult one to predict, and while it is true the Real Madrid gave a weak exhibition against Barcelona and in the eyes of the true fans this is disgraceful as Barcelona is their main rival, we need to also take into consideration that Real Madrid right now is concentrated on the Chelsea and no one else, so I think it is unfair to use a single game to try to disregard the potential the Real Madrid has to move to the next round.

yeah, kinda unpredictable, I know Chelsea has some certain problems at this moment. but that should not be a barrier for Chelsea to win the match against  Real Madrid.

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The meeting of Manchester city and ATM in the quarter-finals of the champions league might be a revenge arena for the English team against the representatives of Spain, because in the last 16 round yesterday, ATM managed to silence Manchester United, but this time ATM faced Manchester City, it is certain that ATM will have difficulty beating Manchester city, because Manchester city plays very consistently and plays very well, both in the champions league and in their domestic league, my prediction is that ATM steps will stop in the quarter-finals, because I am optimistic that Manchester city will be able to qualify for the semi-finals of the champions league.
Man City and Atletico are both strong teams so it will be a little difficult to predict who will come out victorious in the Champions League quarter-final match, but seeing the performance of Man City's team this season is more consistent than Atletico's team, so I will support Man City in that meeting and I believe that they can stop Atlético to the next round, but their Atletico will also not let that win go easily to the Man City team, they will definitely try their best to put pressure on the opposing team.
Putting ATM and City in the same category as good teams would be a bad idea. I would say City is 2x as good as ATM could ever hope to become. I mean even on their greatest day, ATM is not as good as City. This doesn't mean that they can't beat them, just this year we have seen Sheriff, a team nobody knew about, end up beating Real who managed to beat PSG to get here.

So, you can see that sometimes underdogs could win and I get that and ATM could have something like that, they are certainly closer. However, City is the team that has been dominating the premier league for many years now, and managed to also reach finals last year as well. Quite big achievement.
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Well, they are absolutely right about it, Real Madrid has a lot that does not do a feat like that, but as Real Madrid has already shown against PSG, things in football can happen no matter what, PSG for me is the strongest team in the world and I don't know if it's because Neymar Jr and Messi are going through a bad time,
Yes, it is undeniable that the results of the PSG and Real Madrid match were truly surprising and astonishing. There are so many football stars at the PSG club. They are a collection of strong players and cannot be underestimated. But it is like this, football sometimes does not match the predictions on paper. Because the conditions on the field when playing are decisive.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG should actually make Real Madrid even more excited to stop their next opponents, like Chelsea later.

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Well, they are absolutely right about it, Real Madrid has a lot that does not do a feat like that, but as Real Madrid has already shown against PSG, things in football can happen no matter what, PSG for me is the strongest team in the world and I don't know if it's because Neymar Jr and Messi are going through a bad time,
Yes, it is undeniable that the results of the PSG and Real Madrid match were truly surprising and astonishing. There are so many football stars at the PSG club. They are a collection of strong players and cannot be underestimated. But it is like this, football sometimes does not match the predictions on paper. Because the conditions on the field when playing are decisive.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG should actually make Real Madrid even more excited to stop their next opponents, like Chelsea later.
hopefully Madrid does not experience a decrease in confidence after being crushed by Barca in La Liga. if they don't manage to build confidence against Chelsea it could be bad for Madrid.
Chelsea is a strong team, and it can produce results like when Madrid underestimated Barca.



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Man City and Atletico are both strong teams so it will be a little difficult to predict who will come out victorious in the Champions League quarter-final match, but seeing the performance of Man City's team this season is more consistent than Atletico's team, so I will support Man City in that meeting and I believe that they can stop Atlético to the next round, but their Atletico will also not let that win go easily to the Man City team, they will definitely try their best to put pressure on the opposing team.
Athletico Madrid will have to be on their very best for 90 minutes against Manchester City, of course they are expected to go all defensive and hope to get a chance to bury the game. This is trouble for City since they always find it difficult breaking down a well organized defensive team and obviously Guardiola is known to be unable to deal with team playing that brand of football. Regardless, I will still predict Manchester City to beat them because this Atletico side tend to make mistakes often this season unlike them and with the likes of De Bruyne and Mahrez, City will create chances and score.

I really don't expect Atletico Madrid to win against Manchester City. Manchester City seems to be the better team all around and it will be a really big surprise for everyone in my opinion if Atletico Madrid actually wins the match.

Atletico Madrid also didn't have the best of seasons in La Liga this time. and Manchester City is dominating in the English Premier League, so I think the form will carry on into the Champions League matches for Manchester City.

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hopefully Madrid does not experience a decrease in confidence after being crushed by Barca in La Liga. if they don't manage to build confidence against Chelsea it could be bad for Madrid.
Real Madrid is an experienced team in UCL, a single defeat in La Liga won't be affected their confidence in UCL match. Instead, they must prepare harder and be more careful because they know have some problems in some lines. Against Chelsea, Ancelotti may apply a different strategy and release a bit different composition on the starting lineup. And he must motivate Real Madrid players to get points in the first Leg since it is a way match that can be an advantage for them for the next Leg. So, there is no way for them to be not confident, Real Madrid isn't a weak team.

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