⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[slaman29]

I honestly don't know what to say about last night. Whole day today I was thinking how did we lose by such a big margin and honestly Bayern were not that brilliant. We just still can't even defend against aging attackers. And we looked so bare out of ideas everywhere. I suppose we should just even just be satisfied with Europa if this is how we play.

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[jakdanyel]

Chelsea won against Zenit 1-0 but the score was not very satisfying for me. By the way, Lukaku is maintaining a really great performance now. He scored in this one also after scoring 2 goals against Aston Villa in the Premier League. Chelsea would have won this with a bigger gap normally but I guess that Zenit resisted them well. In the end, a win is a win of course.

[DIA7]

Barcelona were just terrible against Bayern Munich here. There is really not much to talk about their performance. They got 5 shots and 0 on target. It must be very disappointing for their supporters. Barcelona are still on the recovery stage after sending Messi and Griezmann both. It was inevitable to get a big loss here for them. Bayern Munich were very confident and they won 3-0. Lewandowski is continuing to show a great performance that he scored 2 more goals here.

Well, I think even though it is a big loss for Barcelona at home, but for me this result is not at all surprising. Previously I have said that their current squad is very different and not surprisingly, their chemistry is also different which makes Bayern certainly have a more solid squad with a great coach even though this is his first season coaching Bayern but that is no longer a problem because Bayern have a squad well formed.

Yeag the truth is that the current Barcelona has a very average team, the differences were very clear, as if Bayern were playing with children, they reduced the pace throughout the match and respected the date of the opponent tonight, you can blame Ronald Koeman but he is not alone, naturally there are clear deficiencies in the style of play and the approach that the team followed in the match, for example, how do you defend with five defenders in the back against Bayern and the focus of your team is Serge Busquets 2021, you can't hold out much here, you don't have N'Golo Kante, the problems are deeper than all of this and the fans of this club must think more realistically, they will need great and mighty work to reach For the giant teams,
Barcelona is in dire straits, perhaps the only good thing in tonight's meeting is the emergence of some young names, this is very important but it is not enough at all, they need deals, they made a disastrous summer transfer window that does not serve the current situation of the team in any way.

[rahmad2nd]

Pretty sure there are many bettors lost in this match including me lol.
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Unexpectedly, I was actually quite optimistic that Manchester United would win when Ronaldo scored the first goal. But since they played with 10 men they were very different, they became weaker and defended. Actually the draw was quite good, but in the last minute Lingard made a mistake. His pass was too close to Siebatcheu. I think there was a slight mistake in the substitutions made by Solkjaer, although he looked like he wanted to win with Lingard, but all of them failed. A bad result for United because they are the top team.

Ole Solskjaer's decision to replace Ronaldo with Jesse Lingard proved to be very costly after Lingard gave the ball away which made Young Boys to score the winner against Man united side who had Aaron Wan Bissaka sent off for a reckless tackle earlier in the first half. Personally, it was a wrong substitution, because Man united needed a winner and taking off Bruno Fernandes and Christiano Ronaldo for Nemanja Matic and Jesse Lingard was not necessary at all. I guess he wanted to defend and attack with them by playing Lingard as a false 9. But it went all wrong. Ole has got all the players needed to prove something tangible, but he still lacks the right tactics to use them.

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

[condoras]

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

If Solskjaer was too much confused with the red card of Bissaka and couldn't find a way to secure his team or even control the game, then what will happen if this incident happens with a better team than Young Boys? He will park the bus? I can't accuse him of replacing CR7 with Lingard since nobody can know what will happen. Lingard makes a mistake as all the players can possibly do. Shit happens, period. Coaching though is another thing...

[Cryptmuster]

Chelsea won against Zenit 1-0 but the score was not very satisfying for me. By the way, Lukaku is maintaining a really great performance now. He scored in this one also after scoring 2 goals against Aston Villa in the Premier League. Chelsea would have won this with a bigger gap normally but I guess that Zenit resisted them well. In the end, a win is a win of course.

I also thought that Chelsea could win with a big score, I figured that Chelsea could score 2 or 3 goals. But the most important thing is that they won the match, and with what result it is no longer so important. I watched the match Dynamo - Benfica, the match is good and both teams had chances to score a goal, but perhaps a draw is the logical result of the match. Although Dynamo managed to score a goal in extra time, it was canceled through VAR. I don’t know how fair it is, but since it was canceled, it means there was an offside position.

[Smartvirus]

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

You seem to know the game and what your saying @rahmad2nd but, not a very good English speaker if you ask me and its no fault of yours. Probably becuase you ain't from an English speaking nation and as such uses a Google translator. Perhaps you've got to try a lot more as, it doesn't make for an easy read and your method of articulation and sentence composure isn't coming together.

Anyway, taking Ronaldo off the pitch might have seem the best decision for some persons but, who he was exchanged with is what I'm sure wasn't the best of decisions. Wan-Bissaka is a good defender indeed and quite valuable on the pitch but, I won't accept his red card as a reason for there lose yesterday. I hear some Manchester United fans say that and I'm not impressed at all. For one, they were the winning side with CR7's 13 minutes early goal before the red card and they were able to hold on all through the first half. This might be the UCL but, Chelsea was able to hold Liverpool down given the same position and circumstances in the EPL. So, the red card is not an excuse.

[DU18]

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

when the score was still 1-1, actually manchester united still had a great opportunity to get at least 1 point, but i don't know what was on Solskjaer's mind so he replaced ronaldo who was playing quite well at that time, finally, instead of strengthening the attack because he needed goals , Manchester United actually conceded due to a back-pass error made by Lingard, I think there were two big mistakes made by Solskjaer in that match, namely replacing Bruno with Matic and Ronaldo being replaced by Lingard.

[CryptocurencyKing]

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

If Solskjaer was too much confused with the red card of Bissaka and couldn't find a way to secure his team or even control the game, then what will happen if this incident happens with a better team than Young Boys? He will park the bus? I can't accuse him of replacing CR7 with Lingard since nobody can know what will happen. Lingard makes a mistake as all the players can possibly do. Shit happens, period. Coaching though is another thing...

I think Ole needs to learn and get better in setting the team up in cases like this. Respect to Young Boys but at the same time. Man united team is good enough to play good football after a red card against that team. Honestly, we have seen Chelsea and other teams hold up a draw or even manage to win with 10-men. This is what makes a big team a big team. The squad to win trophies is now there, the problem remains with the coach. With ole at the wheel, Man united will never win any trophy.  This kind of tactics can never take them any where. It's time Manchester united changes where the problem is before it is too late, otherwise they will finish the season trophy less again. It has happened once before with Tottenham, they couldn't even get a shot after the red card with that quality team.

[Barcode_]

Paris Saint Germain will be missing quite a number of players in their team due to injuries when they play against Club Brugge KV. But since Club Brugge KV is the weakest team in Group A, I think the manager of Paris Saint Germain would surely want to earn all 3 points from the hands of Club Brugge KV despite missing a number of key players for this match. I guess this might be a close match but Paris Saint Germain will still be able to beat Club Brugge KV by 1 goal today.

[LTU_btc]

Main game today is Inter - Real. I have no particular reason, but I will back Inter. As we saw last year in apmost same group, every game matters, especially at home.
Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.
Nice odds for Shakhtar win - 1.90. But Sheriff already showed in qualifiers that they're good.
Maybe odds isn't something special, but I go with Atletico and Borussia wins.
Leipzig are doing poor in Bundesliga, so I'm confident about City win.
Sporting - Ajax looks difficult to predict.

[Pulsar77]

Main game today is Inter - Real. I have no particular reason, but I will back Inter. As we saw last year in apmost same group, every game matters, especially at home.
Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.
Nice odds for Shakhtar win - 1.90. But Sheriff already showed in qualifiers that they're good.
Maybe odds isn't something special, but I go with Atletico and Borussia wins.
Leipzig are doing poor in Bundesliga, so I'm confident about City win.
Sporting - Ajax looks difficult to predict.

Inter - Real Madrid can be the main game today indeed. Both of them are one of the best teams in their leagues. Inter are the last champions in the Serie A. And Real Madrid were nearly the champions in the La Liga also but Atletico Madrid made it. Now, I see that both of these teams had a good start in their leagues. And they are fully focused on the CL game now. I think that Inter will make use of playing home and they can win this game by one goal. But I'm pretty sure that each team will score at least one goal.

[CryptocurencyKing]

Lord Lingard came down in the 71st minute to score and restore United to the lead.
He did not disappoint Solskjaer and made the winning goal for his opponent in the last minute in a wonderful way 🤷🏻 regardless of the goal shot and this substitution, but with your honor worse than Solskjaer and his substitutions?
Taking out a midfielder and play Varane with a back 5 while also a man down.
How he supposed to get a win by doing that, losing against the weakest team in the groupe is not acceptable.

This guy is tactically clueless. He has the best players and doesn't know how to use them. Give this squad to Conte and he wins you the league and champions league double. Remember the wolves game. What was he watching? What was he doing? We should have lost because he was clueless playing Pogba and Fred in the defensive midfield. Someone get an anti bullying campaign for Fred started because he was absolutely violated by Adama Traore. My old man can track back faster than Pogba in defense. There was nothing there. I'm almost reaching the point of saying Ole out but the guy needs to just think straight for once. Good thing he isn't doing badly in the league. Personally Lingard should have stayed at West Ham united. He is just so unlucky with the misfortunes of man united.

[Altryist]

Barcelona has lost its glory, who do they have in the team that can pose a threat to Bayern Munich. When Messi was still a players, they had the messi card to pull as he can individually create chances for other players to score or come up with some magic himself to create the chance and then score but now they are just the underdog especially in last night game.

I watches the game and Bayern were not critical enough if not they should be scoring more goals than they did. Barcelona should just be lucky that they escape with only three goals deposit.

I'll tell you that Messi in this game could not change anything. yesterday I wrote that Bayern will win a landslide victory and the coefficient of 1.95 for this match is excellent. In fact, this is a gift, when for a team like Bayern, two games in a row, bookmakers give a coefficient of about 2. Barcelona in their group will most likely be able to beat Dynamo, but I'm not sure if they can beat Benfica. Therefore, I suppose that Barcelona and Benfica can fight for the exit from the group, from the second place. Bayern will make it into the playoffs from first place without any problems.

[CryptocurencyKing]

When you're unfortunate, there's nothing you can do. Football is a game like that. Everything can be ruined by one mistake. A 94th minute goal by Young Boys puts Manchester United down 2-1. Somewhere along the line, I have a fear about Manchester United's defense. Nevertheless, playing with one men down is no excuse. Ole is the main problem for that team. Since CR7 returned to Manchester United, their fans think most games are going their way.

The problem with Manchester United fans is that when Manchester United win they start praising Ole Solskjaer and when the game goes against him, they start the Ole out campaign. Crazy fans everywhere Man United beat Newcastle last weekend and they were all celebrating. Now got beaten by an average side. And they want Ole gone. The truth is that we never won any match because of the coach but rather because we have some good players, good players alone can't win crucial games, a good coach is always required that's why we will never win anything as long as Ole is still coaching Manchester United. Ole Preferred to strengthen the defense, rather than the attack in yesterday’s game, that’s what killed it.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

The problem with Manchester United fans is that when Manchester United win they start praising Ole Solskjaer and when the game goes against him, they start the Ole out campaign. Crazy fans everywhere Man United beat Newcastle last weekend and they were all celebrating. Now got beaten by an average side. And they want Ole gone.

Fans are emotional because they not only watch matches but also make bets so they are angry when they lost. However, I do understand why they turn their emotion and support for Ole too quickly. Ole himself has issues because he does not give them belief that he is a good coach. If they have belief in Ole, they will support him and skip short bad results.

The truth is that we never won any match because of the coach but rather because we have some good players, good players alone can't win crucial games, a good coach is always required that's why we will never win anything as long as Ole is still coaching Manchester United. Ole Preferred to strengthen the defense, rather than the attack in yesterday’s game, that’s what killed it.

A team are consisted of players and coach, so if a team don't need to have a coach to win matches, clubs should only hire players and let them playing whatever tactic they want and self-pick players for squad in each match.

It is my joke but that presents the importance of a coach.

[CryptocurencyKing]

I realized Manchester United were only playing with 10 player, but United had taken the lead 1-0 and United should have made the most of their defence. If United don't change their strategy, United should still be able to make goals again, considering their opponent is a dark horse team in their group and should be, this is not a problem for the United squad. It's a surprise, even though it's only 10 players I don't think United will lose and it's a problem that Ole has to deal with immediately.

I think Ole forgets that football is a simple game, keep the ball and the opposition can't score. No matter who you play against at any level of the game if you invite pressure for that amount of time you are more than likely to concede. Man united could have easily kept 4 at the back and had the extra man in midfield and comfortably had more control over the game. I think Ole's disastrous tactical change had more effect on the game than going down to 10 men. Even with ten men United should have had the capability to win that game. Allowing the team to be overrun in midfield & relying on the defense to keep Young Boys out till the end of the game was a mistake. He should also have kept Sancho on & brought Greenwood on at some point to give United an outlet. This isn’t the first time that Solskjaer has got his tactics wrong, unfortunately he’s been exposed again as tactically naïve.

[rahmad2nd]

Main game today is Inter - Real. I have no particular reason, but I will back Inter. As we saw last year in apmost same group, every game matters, especially at home.
Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.
Nice odds for Shakhtar win - 1.90. But Sheriff already showed in qualifiers that they're good.
Maybe odds isn't something special, but I go with Atletico and Borussia wins.
Leipzig are doing poor in Bundesliga, so I'm confident about City win.
Sporting - Ajax looks difficult to predict.

I want to say welcome back AC Milan to UEFA Champion league party after miss more than seven years without participants on champion league, but hey have faced big problem with group stage because they have been in group B with Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and FC Porto. I am the kopp fans sure only Atletico Madrid and Liverpool will be to knock out group, lets pray for AC Milan fans begin tonight how many score make by Salah and Mane to defeat AC Milan, how ever Milan go to Anfield without Ibrahimovic after get injury again when faced with Lazio on Serie A last weekend.

[Koal-84]

In yesterday's games, there was only one big surprise for me, that Manchester United lost in Bern, so the red card should not be an excuse.

In general, there have been many red cards yesterday evening, also very curious are the 4 given penalties in Seville against Salzburg, and there were also only 2 utilized. Group G is already very balanced after the first matchday, even if Sevilla is the big favorite. I would not have expected that Bayern wins so clearly in Barcelona.

[blue Snow]

Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.

Yes, Milan is not a stable team, Liverpool also plays at home, possible they will be got great winner, maybe with 2 different goals. But what makes the interesting match is, milan hasn't played in a long time In the champions league. this can be a motivation for them to win the game, they want to show Milan is still alive and have a soul as a legend team. I hope Milan make revenge on "Istanbul", that moment Milan is superior creates 3 goals, but the situation has changed after Liverpool create 3 goals in only under 10 minutes, Then there was a penalty shootout, which makes Liverpool be champions. Maybe, when lucky, Tomorrow, Milan can make it draw.