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June 24, 2023, 02:57:32 PM
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- Pujara is out and they went back with Rahane as a Vice Captain (no ball from Cummins saved Rahane's career lol). Wondering if Kohli time is also coming?
- In the batting department 2 new guys Gaikwad and Jaiswal are in but the top performer of the Ranji are neglected.
I highly doubt that they'll drop Pujara, i think this might be more like a rest for him and he'll get another chance for sure, he is a big veteran equivalent to Kohli, Rohit when it comes to Tests. There can't be a better series to test Jaiswal and Gaikwad, it would've been even better to rest maybe Rohit to test even Sarfaraz Khan who was playing great in first class. Good place to test our bowling bench strength as well.
The narrative is that he's dropped and not rested. Rested is used for Shami but not for him. Tests are important maybe that's why it's not a good idea to give rest to temp captain.

Jaiswal seems alright as he was in fine form in every format and had a decent Ranji as well, although it wasn't exceptional. On the other hand, Gaikwad was way too behind in Ranji's ranking.
Once Pujara was superb is test batting, but recently his performance has declined. However, we hope he can bounce back soon and show us his best game again. As for other changes, perhaps it's time for some transition! India could benefit from some new, fresh talent those holds fine form. It's time to move on and give opportunities to the in form players.

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June 24, 2023, 03:06:08 PM
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The narrative is that he's dropped and not rested. Rested is used for Shami but not for him. Tests are important maybe that's why it's not a good idea to give rest to temp captain.

Jaiswal seems alright as he was in fine form in every format and had a decent Ranji as well, although it wasn't exceptional. On the other hand, Gaikwad was way too behind in Ranji's ranking.
Once Pujara was superb is test batting, but recently his performance has declined. However, we hope he can bounce back soon and show us his best game again. As for other changes, perhaps it's time for some transition! India could benefit from some new, fresh talent those holds fine form. It's time to move on and give opportunities to the in form players.
The very same argument could be made for Kohli as well but no one in their mind thinking about dropping him. In the last 3-4 years both of these guys have more or less the same averages in the test cricket. I will add Rahane in the same mix and if we go by recent performance then Pujara played a fair amount of good innings in comparison to Rahane and Kohli.

Overall I do agree that you can't drop all your great in one go as it messes up your transition phase.

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June 24, 2023, 03:06:40 PM
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- Pujara is out and they went back with Rahane as a Vice Captain (no ball from Cummins saved Rahane's career lol). Wondering if Kohli time is also coming?
- In the batting department 2 new guys Gaikwad and Jaiswal are in but the top performer of the Ranji are neglected.
I highly doubt that they'll drop Pujara, i think this might be more like a rest for him and he'll get another chance for sure, he is a big veteran equivalent to Kohli, Rohit when it comes to Tests. There can't be a better series to test Jaiswal and Gaikwad, it would've been even better to rest maybe Rohit to test even Sarfaraz Khan who was playing great in first class. Good place to test our bowling bench strength as well.
The narrative is that he's dropped and not rested. Rested is used for Shami but not for him. Tests are important maybe that's why it's not a good idea to give rest to temp captain.

Jaiswal seems alright as he was in fine form in every format and had a decent Ranji as well, although it wasn't exceptional. On the other hand, Gaikwad was way too behind in Ranji's ranking.
Once Pujara was superb is test batting, but recently his performance has declined. However, we hope he can bounce back soon and show us his best game again. As for other changes, perhaps it's time for some transition! India could benefit from some new, fresh talent those holds fine form. It's time to move on and give opportunities to the in form players.
Cheteshwar Pujara has been dropped from the Test squad after the World Test Championship defeat against Australia. Cheteshwar Pujara is a Test specialist player but his poor performance in the World Test Championship against Australia forced the BCCI to take such a decision against him. Cheteshwar Pujara's performance in the final of the championship was not good at all but if his Test career is to be looked at, he is a shining star in the overall career of Test cricket. I don't think it is right for BCCI to take such a decision against him just for spoiling one match.

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June 24, 2023, 03:28:38 PM
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Cheteshwar Pujara has been dropped from the Test squad after the World Test Championship defeat against Australia. Cheteshwar Pujara is a Test specialist player but his poor performance in the World Test Championship against Australia forced the BCCI to take such a decision against him. Cheteshwar Pujara's performance in the final of the championship was not good at all but if his Test career is to be looked at, he is a shining star in the overall career of Test cricket. I don't think it is right for BCCI to take such a decision against him just for spoiling one match.
Cheteshwar Pujara is a Test specialist and this is not the one off performance by him. If you look at his performance in the past 3 years, he only scored a century and his average is below 27 which is not helping the team either as they have a lot of talented youngsters waiting to get an opportunity to play the match and hence it is the right time to give the opportunity for other players as Pujara is not getting younger Wink
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June 24, 2023, 03:37:08 PM
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It seems like the pitch is a batting paradise at Nottingham. First Australian women scored 473 runs but now England women are playing even better and scored 218 runs for the loss of 2 wickets only. Australia still leads by 255 runs but as the match is progressing I think England will come close to this Australian score. If it happens, then this match will lead towards the draw for sure.

What you said about pitch is very much true as England on stumps of Day 2 are 218/2. Aussies bowlers are not getting pitch, may be because pitch is not in favour of bowlers or it may be a road. Tammy Beaumont scored her first test hunderd and still not out, Heather Knight scored 57 before getting bowled out by Ashleigh Gardner. England still trail by 255 runs and they have 8 wickets left. Third day play will decide whether we have a result for this game or its a draw.

So we have two sessions of day 3 played in this match and as expected there is not much to look at in this test except seeing the batting practice for the women's team. England have scored 447 runs till now with the loss of 6 wickets. They are approaching towards the Australian total of 473 and it seems they may be in a position to take a lead of 50 to 100 runs.

With only just 2 days and few overs left in this match, it seems that we may see no result in this test match.

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June 24, 2023, 04:55:21 PM
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Cheteshwar Pujara's performance in the final of the championship was not good at all but if his Test career is to be looked at, he is a shining star in the overall career of Test cricket. I don't think it is right for BCCI to take such a decision against him just for spoiling one match.
He was a shining star to be more accurate. His recent performances indicate why he had to be dropped and it wasn't just because of a single match. He consistently kept letting his team down again and again.

He will probably be given more opportunities in the future, but he would need to take full advantage of them in order to reclaim his position in the team.

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June 24, 2023, 05:15:40 PM
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It seems like the pitch is a batting paradise at Nottingham. First Australian women scored 473 runs but now England women are playing even better and scored 218 runs for the loss of 2 wickets only. Australia still leads by 255 runs but as the match is progressing I think England will come close to this Australian score. If it happens, then this match will lead towards the draw for sure.

What you said about pitch is very much true as England on stumps of Day 2 are 218/2. Aussies bowlers are not getting pitch, may be because pitch is not in favour of bowlers or it may be a road. Tammy Beaumont scored her first test hunderd and still not out, Heather Knight scored 57 before getting bowled out by Ashleigh Gardner. England still trail by 255 runs and they have 8 wickets left. Third day play will decide whether we have a result for this game or its a draw.

So we have two sessions of day 3 played in this match and as expected there is not much to look at in this test except seeing the batting practice for the women's team. England have scored 447 runs till now with the loss of 6 wickets. They are approaching towards the Australian total of 473 and it seems they may be in a position to take a lead of 50 to 100 runs.

With only just 2 days and few overs left in this match, it seems that we may see no result in this test match.
On the 3 day Australia women batting they are already showing great performance. They scored 473 runs on the second day and Australia are ahead. England scored just 463 runs in their second day's match, far behind Australia's women's team. But in today's match, Australian women's batsmen Phoebe Litchfield and Beth Mooney are doing a great batting performance. Looking at the batting performance of the duo, it seems that they have the potential to score a lot of runs if they can hold on to the game today. England's women bowlers are yet to pick up any wickets, so Australia is doing well with the batting. At the moment, the total score of the Australian women's team is 76 runs in 15 overs, now Australia is leading by 86 runs.

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June 24, 2023, 06:01:32 PM
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So we have two sessions of day 3 played in this match and as expected there is not much to look at in this test except seeing the batting practice for the women's team. England have scored 447 runs till now with the loss of 6 wickets. They are approaching towards the Australian total of 473 and it seems they may be in a position to take a lead of 50 to 100 runs.

With only just 2 days and few overs left in this match, it seems that we may see no result in this test match.

England should have taken a lead of 50 to 100 runs but they ended there first innings by a trail of 10 runs. Tammy Beaumont went on to score his double century. Australians have started there innings and they are 82/0. Aussies will bat till second session of day 4 and then they might invite England to chase the target. Though there are few chances of result for this match unless someteam collapse in batting.

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June 24, 2023, 06:07:19 PM
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Cheteshwar Pujara's performance in the final of the championship was not good at all but if his Test career is to be looked at, he is a shining star in the overall career of Test cricket. I don't think it is right for BCCI to take such a decision against him just for spoiling one match.
He was a shining star to be more accurate. His recent performances indicate why he had to be dropped and it wasn't just because of a single match. He consistently kept letting his team down again and again.

He will probably be given more opportunities in the future, but he would need to take full advantage of them in order to reclaim his position in the team.
Whatever, there are more poor performing players into the squad. What's the need to take him away from the squad. In the WTC except Rahane no one performed well. Among all whats the need to keep Pujara out of the test squad. He had got good support from the legendary players as well as the followers. However the politics will never let him to be part of the squad. Gavaskar have questioned on what reason Pujara have been dropped while the rest were also the failed ones of WTC.

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June 24, 2023, 11:57:37 PM
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Cheteshwar Pujara's performance in the final of the championship was not good at all but if his Test career is to be looked at, he is a shining star in the overall career of Test cricket. I don't think it is right for BCCI to take such a decision against him just for spoiling one match.
He was a shining star to be more accurate. His recent performances indicate why he had to be dropped and it wasn't just because of a single match. He consistently kept letting his team down again and again.

He will probably be given more opportunities in the future, but he would need to take full advantage of them in order to reclaim his position in the team.
Indian batters since 2020.

Our trio of Pujara, Kohli and Rahane all went down the drain. They dropped Rahane first, he went to Ranji and made runs against weaker teams (injuries in the team India helped) and back to vice captain post. Now it's happening with Pujara, sure he will play the domestic and County as well, he always does that but what about Kohli?

Selectors are not answering this question and no one is loving the approach of different yardsticks for different players.

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June 25, 2023, 07:47:27 AM
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Australia ended up with the lead of 92 runs at the end of the third session of day 03. They scored 82 runs with no wickets lost. This shows that they will be batting with the same conviction on the fourth day and there is not much time left in this test match for a result.

We have witnessed some nice batting performances in this test match especially the 208 runs by Tammy Beaumont and 137 runs not out by Annabel.

Nothing much for bowlers in this game as pitch is made for batters. As I said earlier the result of this match lies very much if any of the team batting collapsed in second innings which is not looking possible. So majority of chances are that it will be a draw.
Tammy Beaumont had her double century that include 27 fours. To my surprise there is no 6 in entire second innings of England.

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June 25, 2023, 09:09:39 AM
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A lot of posts are getting deleted here eh

Anyway, it looks like BCCI's recent bravado with selection and ignoring Ranji's top performers is making quite a noise. Everyone from Media, Former cricketers and even former selectors are unhappy with current developments.

In other news, the Anderson-Broad duo is complaining about the pitch.

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June 25, 2023, 01:58:32 PM
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He had got good support from the legendary players as well as the followers. However the politics will never let him to be part of the squad. Gavaskar have questioned on what reason Pujara have been dropped while the rest were also the failed ones of WTC.
Support isn't enough to justify his place in the team. His stats clearly point out the fact that he has been out of form for a long time now. He deserved to be dropped and I feel that the BCCI made the right call here for a change.

Anyway, it looks like BCCI's recent bravado with selection and ignoring Ranji's top performers is making quite a noise. Everyone from Media, Former cricketers and even former selectors are unhappy with current developments.
They are focusing way too much on the IPL for international format selections which implies that they haven't learnt from their previous mistakes.

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June 25, 2023, 02:09:31 PM
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Anyway, it looks like BCCI's recent bravado with selection and ignoring Ranji's top performers is making quite a noise. Everyone from Media, Former cricketers and even former selectors are unhappy with current developments.
They are focusing way too much on the IPL for international format selections which implies that they haven't learnt from their previous mistakes.
That's the point everyone raising. Tbh it does look bad for Ranji players and it won't send a good message to domestic players. They are simply saying that it doesn't matter if you perform in Domestic or not as IPL is the main criteria for the selection process.

Btw heard that Sarfaraz is neglected because of his fitness, which is a very old problem and i agree with that as he was told many times to get fit even Kohli told him to get in shape when he was in RCB. They also mentioned his off-field behavior which is not clear to me.

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June 25, 2023, 02:38:55 PM
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There is small twist in the only test between Aus-W and England-W.
Australians were 149-2 and then 198-7. There is 46 runs partnership betwen Alyssa Healy and Alana that has rescued Australians. If England can bowl out Aussies today before 275, there is definitely a chance that we have a result for this game. Defiantly we can't say who will be winner but defiantly now a draw. Australia at the moment need partnership they don't wanna loose more wickets.

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June 25, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
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Btw heard that Sarfaraz is neglected because of his fitness, which is a very old problem and i agree with that as he was told many times to get fit even Kohli told him to get in shape when he was in RCB. They also mentioned his off-field behavior which is not clear to me.
These are all minor issues since the man averages almost 80 since last couple of years which is why he deserves several opportunities at the very least. His off-field issues pale when compared to his on-field performances.

If players like Rohit(Fitness issue) and Kohli(Anger issue) can get opportunities, why can't he?

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June 25, 2023, 03:32:43 PM
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There is small twist in the only test between Aus-W and England-W.
Australians were 149-2 and then 198-7. There is 46 runs partnership betwen Alyssa Healy and Alana that has rescued Australians. If England can bowl out Aussies today before 275, there is definitely a chance that we have a result for this game. Defiantly we can't say who will be winner but defiantly now a draw. Australia at the moment need partnership they don't wanna loose more wickets.

All of sudden this boring leading towards the draw test match has come to life since the Australian women's team has collapsed in the 2nd innings and is all out for 257 runs. This means that England's women's team now needs only 268 runs to win this test match and we have 3.5 sessions of play left in this match. We all were thinking of draw but not drawing seems impossible as we have more than enough time for England to chase this target.

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June 25, 2023, 03:52:00 PM
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There is small twist in the only test between Aus-W and England-W.
Australians were 149-2 and then 198-7. There is 46 runs partnership betwen Alyssa Healy and Alana that has rescued Australians. If England can bowl out Aussies today before 275, there is definitely a chance that we have a result for this game. Defiantly we can't say who will be winner but defiantly now a draw. Australia at the moment need partnership they don't wanna loose more wickets.
All of sudden this boring leading towards the draw test match has come to life since the Australian women's team has collapsed in the 2nd innings and is all out for 257 runs. This means that England's women's team now needs only 268 runs to win this test match and we have 3.5 sessions of play left in this match. We all were thinking of draw but not drawing seems impossible as we have more than enough time for England to chase this target.

Another good news for the residents of Nottingham, they can now go to the stadium tomorrow and watch the action live free of cost, the fifth day has been declared as free entry, book your seats here https://www.trentbridge.co.uk/index.html   Smiley
Impressive bowling by left arm spinner Sophie Ecclestone as she takes career best figure in this match 5/63 which built foundation for the English team to win in this only test match Australia which was doing good stuff in second inning have shocking collapse 149 for 2 to 257 for all out bring them on back foot even still things are balanced but England women's are having good bowling in second inning and now their start is also good.

Mooney and Alyssa Healy done good job for the Australia in second inning and scored fifties which bring them on good target now first inning double centurion Tammy Beaumont has good chance to score again and give her team win in this test match.
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Mooney and Alyssa Healy done good job for the Australia in second inning and scored fifties which bring them on good target now first inning double centurion Tammy Beaumont has good chance to score again and give her team win in this test match.
Tammy Beaumont's double century helped England post a good first innings total and England still need 179 more runs to win the match, the problem is that England lost their top 4 batsman and the reason is that Tahlia McGrath and Ashleigh Gardner are picking wickets and bowling a tight line and a couple of wickets here and the English tail will be exposed.
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All of sudden this boring leading towards the draw test match has come to life since the Australian women's team has collapsed in the 2nd innings and is all out for 257 runs. This means that England's women's team now needs only 268 runs to win this test match and we have 3.5 sessions of play left in this match. We all were thinking of draw but not drawing seems impossible as we have more than enough time for England to chase this target.

Another good news for the residents of Nottingham, they can now go to the stadium tomorrow and watch the action live free of cost, the fifth day has been declared as free entry, book your seats here https://www.trentbridge.co.uk/index.html   Smiley
Impressive bowling by left arm spinner Sophie Ecclestone as she takes career best figure in this match 5/63 which built foundation for the English team to win in this only test match Australia which was doing good stuff in second inning have shocking collapse 149 for 2 to 257 for all out bring them on back foot even still things are balanced but England women's are having good bowling in second inning and now their start is also good.

Mooney and Alyssa Healy done good job for the Australia in second inning and scored fifties which bring them on good target now first inning double centurion Tammy Beaumont has good chance to score again and give her team win in this test match.

The England women’s team needs 167 more to win in 95 overs. They have already lost four wickets. I am almost certain that this match is not going to end in a draw. The woman of England are actually trying to build up a partnership right now. The last wicket fell on 73.

I think England realizes that they will need to have a very good partnership to actually be able to win the test match. They should also realize that they are not going to see a draw in this test match. But of course, Australia is also looking to try to get one more wicket. That is going to make the day a lot better for Australia. I genuinely think that if England loses one more wicket today they are going to lose this test match.

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