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June 25, 2023, 06:01:51 PM
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They are focusing way too much on the IPL for international format selections which implies that they haven't learnt from their previous mistakes.

You may set IPL as a platform to pick players for the national team T20 squad or at maximum, one day squad too but you cannot expect T20 players to perform equally well in the five day test match. The IPL format won't help in this case.

But since the IPL is the lifeline of BCCI, what are our options for them? One option and my personal favorite is to introduce an IPL test series too so that the Indian team can produce the Test Legends too. What about the IPL ODI Series too:Smiley

This way the Indian team will be playing two months of T20 IPL, 3 months of ODI IPL, and perhaps 5 months of Test Cricket IPL, making a total of 10 months busy in IPL out of 12 each year, leaving only 2 months for the exposure of International cricket.  Tongue

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A lot of posts are getting deleted here eh

Anyway, it looks like BCCI's recent bravado with selection and ignoring Ranji's top performers is making quite a noise. Everyone from Media, Former cricketers and even former selectors are unhappy with current developments.

In other news, the Anderson-Broad duo is complaining about the pitch.

The problem is that there is a huge gap between the quality of Ranji Trophy matches and international matches. Players such as Sarfaraz have never played against quality opposition. The BCCI is no longer interested in India A tours, which would have otherwise provided opportunity for such players to showcase their skills. Another option is to prove their worth by playing in the county championship, or in the Sheffield Shield. But it looks as if Sarfaraz Khan is not interested in doing that. Apart from Mumbai and IPL franchises, he has never represented any other teams.

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June 26, 2023, 04:06:01 AM
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They are focusing way too much on the IPL for international format selections which implies that they haven't learnt from their previous mistakes.

One option and my personal favorite is to introduce an IPL test series too so that the Indian team can produce the Test Legends too. What about the IPL ODI Series too:Smiley

Ih, you want test IPL and ODI IPL but i think it not good option for marketing. crowd will not he interested to watch big series of test matches and also it will waste lot of time. The main goal from this league to select best players for odi and test but what will you think about foreign players? if you want ti include then it will took lot of money to hired him, if you want to exclude then domestic ranji trophy already available.
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June 26, 2023, 04:20:47 AM
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All of sudden this boring leading towards the draw test match has come to life since the Australian women's team has collapsed in the 2nd innings and is all out for 257 runs. This means that England's women's team now needs only 268 runs to win this test match and we have 3.5 sessions of play left in this match. We all were thinking of draw but not drawing seems impossible as we have more than enough time for England to chase this target.

Another good news for the residents of Nottingham, they can now go to the stadium tomorrow and watch the action live free of cost, the fifth day has been declared as free entry, book your seats here https://www.trentbridge.co.uk/index.html   Smiley

England got a good chance to win this test as they need only 252 runs to win the game but on stumps day 4 they have lost half of there batting. To me now Aus-W are favorite as they need 5 more wickets and tail has already stepped in. England in this test struggled to play Ashleigh Gardner who has picked 3 wikcets in second innings. England ended day 4 on wicker loss of Darcie Brown.

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June 26, 2023, 04:54:35 AM
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Anyway, it looks like BCCI's recent bravado with selection and ignoring Ranji's top performers is making quite a noise. Everyone from Media, Former cricketers and even former selectors are unhappy with current developments.
They are focusing way too much on the IPL for international format selections which implies that they haven't learnt from their previous mistakes.
That's the point everyone raising. Tbh it does look bad for Ranji players and it won't send a good message to domestic players. They are simply saying that it doesn't matter if you perform in Domestic or not as IPL is the main criteria for the selection process.

Btw heard that Sarfaraz is neglected because of his fitness, which is a very old problem and i agree with that as he was told many times to get fit even Kohli told him to get in shape when he was in RCB. They also mentioned his off-field behavior which is not clear to me.
I agreed about this even he is one of the best batsman from new generation and have impressive record in Ranji Trophy, but now he is fighting for the spot into Indian national team where he needs to have something special his on-field and off-field behavior which got many times reported, and his fitness issue is also not good for a national team right now, and we already have all reports about this all as well because I was reading about him, they are not ignored him just because of fitness his behavior is also main problem as well.

Here dropping just Pujara is not good because I am feeling they need to bring few more youngsters for this tour as this is good chance for them to have better practice in West Indies with this all if they dropped Rahane or Kohli this also justified but no one can talk about this all as now we have final call from selectors.

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June 26, 2023, 05:58:42 AM
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All of sudden this boring leading towards the draw test match has come to life since the Australian women's team has collapsed in the 2nd innings and is all out for 257 runs. This means that England's women's team now needs only 268 runs to win this test match and we have 3.5 sessions of play left in this match. We all were thinking of draw but not drawing seems impossible as we have more than enough time for England to chase this target.

Another good news for the residents of Nottingham, they can now go to the stadium tomorrow and watch the action live free of cost, the fifth day has been declared as free entry, book your seats here https://www.trentbridge.co.uk/index.html   Smiley

England got a good chance to win this test as they need only 252 runs to win the game but on stumps day 4 they have lost half of there batting. To me now Aus-W are favorite as they need 5 more wickets and tail has already stepped in. England in this test struggled to play Ashleigh Gardner who has picked 3 wikcets in second innings. England ended day 4 on wicker loss of Darcie Brown.
England need 152 runs to win on the fifth day. It will be very difficult for England Women to win this Test match against Australia Women. Because England have lost five wickets for 116 runs on the fourth day that means they need to collect 152 more runs with the remaining five wickets which is very difficult. Because they may have only two professional batsmen in their team, if Australia women team can take the wickets of these two professional batsmen, then Australia women team will win this match very soon. 

Australia defeated England by two wickets in the first match of The Ashes series, now the target for the Australia Women's team is to beat the England Women's team. If you can bowl according to the plan, this match will go in favor of Australia.

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June 26, 2023, 07:09:45 AM
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The England women’s team needs 167 more to win in 95 overs. They have already lost four wickets. I am almost certain that this match is not going to end in a draw. The woman of England are actually trying to build up a partnership right now. The last wicket fell on 73.

I think England realizes that they will need to have a very good partnership to actually be able to win the test match. They should also realize that they are not going to see a draw in this test match. But of course, Australia is also looking to try to get one more wicket. That is going to make the day a lot better for Australia. I genuinely think that if England loses one more wicket today they are going to lose this test match.
After three bore cricketing days we have fourth very exciting day as 15 wickets fall and now match is completely in Australian control even England having very good start of fourth inning while they were chasing target of 267 with having 50+ runs stand for the first wicket now they are 116 for 5 after end of fourth day play.
 
Introduction of Ashleigh Gardner change the match momentum as she picks three quick wickets and breaks the backbone of England now mostly likely we will have result before lunch because tail-enders can't handle this situation and bowling of Ashleigh Gardner which is at the top of the game after picking three vital wickets and bring back his team in winning situation.
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These are all minor issues since the man averages almost 80 since last couple of years which is why he deserves several opportunities at the very least. His off-field issues pale when compared to his on-field performances.

If players like Rohit(Fitness issue) and Kohli(Anger issue) can get opportunities, why can't he?
Rohit's example is a fair argument but at the same time how many unfit players do you want in the playing XI. Ofc they are champions in their respective field but overall unfit guys are a liability when they are fielding and we have many such players. Having said that i agree with you.

A lot of posts are getting deleted here eh

Anyway, it looks like BCCI's recent bravado with selection and ignoring Ranji's top performers is making quite a noise. Everyone from Media, Former cricketers and even former selectors are unhappy with current developments.

In other news, the Anderson-Broad duo is complaining about the pitch.

The problem is that there is a huge gap between the quality of Ranji Trophy matches and international matches. Players such as Sarfaraz have never played against quality opposition. The BCCI is no longer interested in India A tours, which would have otherwise provided opportunity for such players to showcase their skills. Another option is to prove their worth by playing in the county championship, or in the Sheffield Shield. But it looks as if Sarfaraz Khan is not interested in doing that. Apart from Mumbai and IPL franchises, he has never represented any other teams.
It's true for every local tournament, including County etc. It just helps you deal with different conditions, that's it. Sarfaraz scoring a shitload amount of runs in domestic against every opponent so he definitely can bat.

His only failure came when he had a 1 poor India A tour but in his defense, it wasn't a long tour for starters. In the last 3-4 years India A toured only 3 countries so yeah, it's on BCCI as well, not players.

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June 26, 2023, 11:30:13 AM
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After three bore cricketing days we have fourth very exciting day as 15 wickets fall and now match is completely in Australian control even England having very good start of fourth inning while they were chasing target of 267 with having 50+ runs stand for the first wicket now they are 116 for 5 after end of fourth day play.
 
Introduction of Ashleigh Gardner change the match momentum as she picks three quick wickets and breaks the backbone of England now mostly likely we will have result before lunch because tail-enders can't handle this situation and bowling of Ashleigh Gardner which is at the top of the game after picking three vital wickets and bring back his team in winning situation.

Game is heading towards its result as Australia need only one wickets while England need 91 more runs to win. England only hope is with Danni Wyatt who is not out on 54 runs. Ashleigh Gardner turned the match towards Australia by picking 7 wikcets in second innings. No-one was expecting that this huge scoring game will give a result like that on very last day.

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June 26, 2023, 01:08:00 PM
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After three bore cricketing days we have fourth very exciting day as 15 wickets fall and now match is completely in Australian control even England having very good start of fourth inning while they were chasing target of 267 with having 50+ runs stand for the first wicket now they are 116 for 5 after end of fourth day play.
 
Introduction of Ashleigh Gardner change the match momentum as she picks three quick wickets and breaks the backbone of England now mostly likely we will have result before lunch because tail-enders can't handle this situation and bowling of Ashleigh Gardner which is at the top of the game after picking three vital wickets and bring back his team in winning situation.

Game is heading towards its result as Australia need only one wickets while England need 91 more runs to win. England only hope is with Danni Wyatt who is not out on 54 runs. Ashleigh Gardner turned the match towards Australia by picking 7 wikcets in second innings. No-one was expecting that this huge scoring game will give a result like that on very last day.
Australia Women won by 89 runs. Australia scored 473 runs in the first innings and 257 runs in the second innings. England Women scored 463 in the first innings and 178 in the second innings. Australian player Ashley Gardner played brilliantly, bowling 12 wickets in two innings and scoring 41 runs with the bat. Ashleigh Gardner took 4 wickets in the first innings and 8 wickets in the second innings alone. Congratulations to the Australian women's cricket team.

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June 26, 2023, 02:04:58 PM
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After three bore cricketing days we have fourth very exciting day as 15 wickets fall and now match is completely in Australian control even England having very good start of fourth inning while they were chasing target of 267 with having 50+ runs stand for the first wicket now they are 116 for 5 after end of fourth day play.
 
Introduction of Ashleigh Gardner change the match momentum as she picks three quick wickets and breaks the backbone of England now mostly likely we will have result before lunch because tail-enders can't handle this situation and bowling of Ashleigh Gardner which is at the top of the game after picking three vital wickets and bring back his team in winning situation.

Game is heading towards its result as Australia need only one wickets while England need 91 more runs to win. England only hope is with Danni Wyatt who is not out on 54 runs. Ashleigh Gardner turned the match towards Australia by picking 7 wikcets in second innings. No-one was expecting that this huge scoring game will give a result like that on very last day.

Women Australia won this test match which at one time was looking to be drawn. The way they changed the game on the 4th and 5th day is remarkable and England women's team had no answer to this. I thought that England was in a better position to win this match but the Australian team really bowled well and they made England women's team all out at 178 runs.

Ashleigh Gardner took 8 wickets in this final innings and she was simply unplayable by the English batsmen.

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June 26, 2023, 02:09:48 PM
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It's silly watching greats like Anderson complaining about the poor pitched when the primary issue was his bowling itself in the first test. He might be replaced by Wood or Woakes depending on what the management decides.

Ali might get replaced too by Rehan. England need to bring their A-game to the second test if they wish to stay alive in this heated competition.

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June 26, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
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It's silly watching greats like Anderson complaining about the poor pitched when the primary issue was his bowling itself in the first test. He might be replaced by Wood or Woakes depending on what the management decides.

Ali might get replaced too by Rehan. England need to bring their A-game to the second test if they wish to stay alive in this heated competition.
Everyone complained about the pitch except the batters.

The Aussie batting coach also said that it was the flattest wicket in England, he even added that county pitches are more lively. Cummins also said the same after 1st day of the play, Broad did too so it wasn't only Anderson.

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June 26, 2023, 03:03:56 PM
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Women Australia won this test match which at one time was looking to be drawn. The way they changed the game on the 4th and 5th day is remarkable and England women's team had no answer to this. I thought that England was in a better position to win this match but the Australian team really bowled well and they made England women's team all out at 178 runs.

Ashleigh Gardner took 8 wickets in this final innings and she was simply unplayable by the English batsmen.

In first innings both teams scored almost equal runs and till day 4 it was expected that the game will end in a draw. England bowlers did well to bowl out Aussies at 257, thanks to 5 wickets by Sophie Ecclestone. But its England batting that failed to chase a small target of 267 and whole team was out on 178 runs. Sophie Ecclestone was also man of the match for her outstanding bowling figures of 4/99 & 8/66.

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June 26, 2023, 04:59:53 PM
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It's silly watching greats like Anderson complaining about the poor pitched when the primary issue was his bowling itself in the first test. He might be replaced by Wood or Woakes depending on what the management decides.

Ali might get replaced too by Rehan. England need to bring their A-game to the second test if they wish to stay alive in this heated competition.
England lost their first test match at Birmingham, but both teams were complaining about this pitch which is surely not suitable for the bowling but still impressive performance from the Australians for having their start with win in this year's Ashes no doubt now it's time for the James Anderson to have something for his career but look like he and ECB both are looking for the few more wickets which bring him to second spot and that will be ended his career.

About Ali, I was surprise when they bring him back for this series because he not deserves this chance with his record and performance but still they take this chance and this cost them in their first game now they are including Rehan for the second test which is some better even he needs more time for having better performance against team like Australia.

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June 26, 2023, 05:06:06 PM
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Women Australia won this test match which at one time was looking to be drawn. The way they changed the game on the 4th and 5th day is remarkable and England women's team had no answer to this. I thought that England was in a better position to win this match but the Australian team really bowled well and they made England women's team all out at 178 runs.

Ashleigh Gardner took 8 wickets in this final innings and she was simply unplayable by the English batsmen.

In first innings both teams scored almost equal runs and till day 4 it was expected that the game will end in a draw. England bowlers did well to bowl out Aussies at 257, thanks to 5 wickets by Sophie Ecclestone. But its England batting that failed to chase a small target of 267 and whole team was out on 178 runs. Sophie Ecclestone was also man of the match for her outstanding bowling figures of 4/99 & 8/66.
Australia is very good at cricket and England is not bad either. In the first innings both the teams scored almost equally and the match was tight but in the second innings Australia Women team outscored England Women by 79 runs and after 10 runs more in the first innings England Women lost the entire match by 89 runs. The match had a lot of excitement in the first innings as both the teams were performing very well.


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June 26, 2023, 05:27:15 PM
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After three bore cricketing days we have fourth very exciting day as 15 wickets fall and now match is completely in Australian control even England having very good start of fourth inning while they were chasing target of 267 with having 50+ runs stand for the first wicket now they are 116 for 5 after end of fourth day play.
 
Introduction of Ashleigh Gardner change the match momentum as she picks three quick wickets and breaks the backbone of England now mostly likely we will have result before lunch because tail-enders can't handle this situation and bowling of Ashleigh Gardner which is at the top of the game after picking three vital wickets and bring back his team in winning situation.

Well, it was genuinely sad how the match ended. I thought the England women were going to actually show some good heart and try to win this match.

But obviously, you are not going to win a test match if you lose six wickets in 68 runs. Except for Wyatt, no one else was actually able to score. Anything meaningful for the England team. I genuinely thought the England women have a chance. But they proved me wrong. A big win for Australian women by 89 runs in the end.

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After three bore cricketing days we have fourth very exciting day as 15 wickets fall and now match is completely in Australian control even England having very good start of fourth inning while they were chasing target of 267 with having 50+ runs stand for the first wicket now they are 116 for 5 after end of fourth day play.
 
Introduction of Ashleigh Gardner change the match momentum as she picks three quick wickets and breaks the backbone of England now mostly likely we will have result before lunch because tail-enders can't handle this situation and bowling of Ashleigh Gardner which is at the top of the game after picking three vital wickets and bring back his team in winning situation.

Well, it was genuinely sad how the match ended. I thought the England women were going to actually show some good heart and try to win this match.

But obviously, you are not going to win a test match if you lose six wickets in 68 runs. Except for Wyatt, no one else was actually able to score. Anything meaningful for the England team. I genuinely thought the England women have a chance. But they proved me wrong. A big win for Australian women by 89 runs in the end.

Atleast the match could've gone even closer, because the team that scored 463 runs while chasing the target of 473 runs in the first innings unable to cross 200 runs is simply bad. The opening wasn't good, if not the match could've been more better. At the start England missed the track and Ashleigh took credit of the opportunity and brought the win for Australia. Runs were coming good, but the wickets kept falling at regular intervals which is the thing that made England suffer. Anyhow it is a good match to watch, but the end went against the prediction.
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June 27, 2023, 02:45:31 AM
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Atleast the match could've gone even closer, because the team that scored 463 runs while chasing the target of 473 runs in the first innings unable to cross 200 runs is simply bad. The opening wasn't good, if not the match could've been more better. At the start England missed the track and Ashleigh took credit of the opportunity and brought the win for Australia. Runs were coming good, but the wickets kept falling at regular intervals which is the thing that made England suffer. Anyhow it is a good match to watch, but the end went against the prediction.

Any target of more than 250 was going to be tough to chase. And apart from Danni Wyatt, none of the other England women managed to get to a score of more than 30. Emma Lamb and Tammy Beaumont started quite confidently, but once both of them got out in quick succession, it was free fall for England women. Gardner was playing in her 4th test, and managed to rout the England batting order. In previous three matches, she had a total of 4 wickets. And in this test match, she picked three times that many wickets, including 8/66 in the second innings. 

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Women Australia won this test match which at one time was looking to be drawn. The way they changed the game on the 4th and 5th day is remarkable and England women's team had no answer to this. I thought that England was in a better position to win this match but the Australian team really bowled well and they made England women's team all out at 178 runs.

Ashleigh Gardner took 8 wickets in this final innings and she was simply unplayable by the English batsmen.

In first innings both teams scored almost equal runs and till day 4 it was expected that the game will end in a draw. England bowlers did well to bowl out Aussies at 257, thanks to 5 wickets by Sophie Ecclestone. But its England batting that failed to chase a small target of 267 and whole team was out on 178 runs. Sophie Ecclestone was also man of the match for her outstanding bowling figures of 4/99 & 8/66.
Australia is very good at cricket and England is not bad either. In the first innings both the teams scored almost equally and the match was tight but in the second innings Australia Women team outscored England Women by 79 runs and after 10 runs more in the first innings England Women lost the entire match by 89 runs. The match had a lot of excitement in the first innings as both the teams were performing very well.
In this match between England Women and Australia Women, Australia Women won by 89 runs. The players of Australia Women team succeeded after many efforts to win the match. Australia Women scored 473 runs in 1st inns and 257 runs in 2nd inns. But England Women 1st  Had a good run in Inns but England Women team had to lose the match due to very poor play in 2nd Inns. If England Women could have played well in 2nd Inns then there might have been a chance to win the match.


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