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June 30, 2023, 01:30:30 PM
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England collapsed like dominoes towards the end. They started so well, but messed up later on thanks to some messed up shots by some of the batsmen due to which they didn't even get close to the target.

Bazball is a good style of cricket, but it is overhyped to be honest. It clearly isn't working against powerful competitors like the Australians.

Things changed pretty quickly for England in this test match. The collapse we were talking about come a bit early in the England first innings and they were all down for  324 runs. This gives Australia around 90 runs lead which can prove to be a good one seeing the context of the match.

Aussie are looking confident out there and there are serious about pilling up runs for their probable victory. They lead by 129 runs with all the wickets still in hand. They surely have the upper hand in this match now.

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June 30, 2023, 01:31:07 PM
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Bazball seems to be hurting Poms here. I am not against this approach per se, i actually admire the fact that they are trying to do something new with their cricket, which was needed badly.

But at the same time lot of brainless cricket is going on, sometimes it even looks like amateur cricket and in contrast, Aussie just going with their usual Ashes business.

Hope they bounce back otherwise plenty of Op-eds are coming soon.

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June 30, 2023, 02:17:35 PM
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Don't be surprised if you see England get all out before they score 400 or less. As I said several times, it's a matter of a single session. But it's unlikely to happen if the pitch has the same condition as yesterday. The Ashes are the series where both teams fight for dignity. So, no team will let others go away that easily. All team players give their best effort to get the desired result.

Aussie fast bowlers seemed expensive last day, except for Pat Cummins. If English batters can keep a steady momentum and not start to play unnecessary bit shots, it won't be hard for them to score and take some lead.

There is 56 runs partnership between Harry Brook and Ben Stokes at stumps of day 2. Ben Duckett was another victim of nervous 90's and missed his 3rd test hundred by just 2 runs. First session of day 3 is important for both teams as team dominating that session will defiantly have an upper hand in the match. England are in good position but the job is not over yet, they need to play with caution and try to get lead of 100 runs from here on. On the other hand Aussies must be thinking of strategy to bowl them out before they reach 416.

Look what I was saying before starting the game today. Precisely this is what happened with England. The new ball is always dangerous in the first session of the day. Harry Brook and Ben Stokes had to play carefully, at least for the first session. But it happens in cricket. Now this does not look good for England. Aussies already got 158 runs lead with nine wickets in hand.

They might set a good target from there. At least four hundred target will be somewhat good for Aussies. Since another two full days ahead, i don't think aussies will declare the innings and they will bat until get all out.

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June 30, 2023, 02:27:43 PM
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At this point, it seems even Stevens. England is still trailing by 138 runs, but the way they treated the Australian pacers was impressive. And those who piled on the runs yesterday all belong to the younger generation - Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope and Harry Brook. The way they scored those runs was also impressive. Mitchell Starc was hammered all around the park, and the same treatment was meted out to Josh Hazlewood. This is the way they should play against the Australian bowlers. But at this point, it is too early to say whether they will get a lead.   

Aussies never stop from giving surprises, and today Aussies stunned England batsmen by bowling them out in first session and got lead of 91 runs. Aussies bowlers have taken revenge of yesterday English dominance. England are in hurry of making runs and that's why they keep losing wickets when they are up against bowling attack like Aussies. Australia have now got a lead of 158 runs and they still have 9 batsmen to come.

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June 30, 2023, 02:43:14 PM
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There is 56 runs partnership between Harry Brook and Ben Stokes at stumps of day 2. Ben Duckett was another victim of nervous 90's and missed his 3rd test hundred by just 2 runs. First session of day 3 is important for both teams as team dominating that session will defiantly have an upper hand in the match. England are in good position but the job is not over yet, they need to play with caution and try to get lead of 100 runs from here on. On the other hand Aussies must be thinking of strategy to bowl them out before they reach 416.

At this point, it seems even Stevens. England is still trailing by 138 runs, but the way they treated the Australian pacers was impressive. And those who piled on the runs yesterday all belong to the younger generation - Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope and Harry Brook. The way they scored those runs was also impressive. Mitchell Starc was hammered all around the park, and the same treatment was meted out to Josh Hazlewood. This is the way they should play against the Australian bowlers. But at this point, it is too early to say whether they will get a lead.   
Australia scored more runs than England in the first innings and Australia has started playing well in the second innings too so there is a possibility that Australia will lead in Hughes runs in two innings so since England is behind in the first innings it does not seem that they can win the match with Australia in the second innings. Because Australia is a very good team. As in any game nothing is guaranteed before the end of the game so if England bowls well and prevents Australia from scoring high runs in the second innings then England can win the match on average but I think it is very unlikely.
England vs Australia
 Australia has started very good performance in its 2nd Test match. Going to bat today still leading by 170 runs. I hope Australia team has a big chance to win this 2nd Test match. Australia has started great performance in bowling and batting. England in bowling and batting.  The chances of losing the match are high for performing poorly.


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June 30, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
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There is 56 runs partnership between Harry Brook and Ben Stokes at stumps of day 2. Ben Duckett was another victim of nervous 90's and missed his 3rd test hundred by just 2 runs. First session of day 3 is important for both teams as team dominating that session will defiantly have an upper hand in the match. England are in good position but the job is not over yet, they need to play with caution and try to get lead of 100 runs from here on. On the other hand Aussies must be thinking of strategy to bowl them out before they reach 416.

At this point, it seems even Stevens. England is still trailing by 138 runs, but the way they treated the Australian pacers was impressive. And those who piled on the runs yesterday all belong to the younger generation - Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope and Harry Brook. The way they scored those runs was also impressive. Mitchell Starc was hammered all around the park, and the same treatment was meted out to Josh Hazlewood. This is the way they should play against the Australian bowlers. But at this point, it is too early to say whether they will get a lead.   
Australia scored more runs than England in the first innings and Australia has started playing well in the second innings too so there is a possibility that Australia will lead in Hughes runs in two innings so since England is behind in the first innings it does not seem that they can win the match with Australia in the second innings. Because Australia is a very good team. As in any game nothing is guaranteed before the end of the game so if England bowls well and prevents Australia from scoring high runs in the second innings then England can win the match on average but I think it is very unlikely.
England vs Australia
 Australia has started very good performance in its 2nd Test match. Going to bat today still leading by 170 runs. I hope Australia team has a big chance to win this 2nd Test match. Australia has started great performance in bowling and batting. England in bowling and batting.  The chances of losing the match are high for performing poorly.
Australia are likely to score 350+ today as well and lead England by 450+ runs. It will be very difficult for England to win the match against Australia. Australia have scored 128 runs in the second innings so far and lost only 2 wickets. They still have 8 wickets to go so it means they will be able to collect more huge runs. S. smith just came out to bat he scored 110 alone in the first innings and expect better from him in the second innings too.


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June 30, 2023, 03:57:16 PM
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They might set a good target from there. At least four hundred target will be somewhat good for Aussies. Since another two full days ahead, i don't think aussies will declare the innings and they will bat until get all out.

Now the next big debate in this test match is what would be target England will get to chase. If you ask me, I will be first seeing the first session of this 4th day and see how the Australians play that critical morning session. If they can play that session 500+ runs lead in on the card for them and it could be match winning too.

However, if the Aussies lost quick wickets in the morning, and end up under 350 runs lead (a big collapse), this test would again become a cliffhanger on the fifth day.  Wink

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The lead has now gone past 200. Usman Khawaja is now at the crease with Steven Smith and Australia looks set to impose a target of 400 plus. Looks like another win for the Australians this time. England bowlers looks toothless at this moment, especially the pacers. Even Josh Tongue seems to be struggling. I guess they need to bring on their best bower (Joe Root) and give him an extended spell. This is the third day, so we are almost assured of a result this time. Plenty of time remains for Australia to bowl out England when they come out to bat.

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This match is in Australia's grip at the moment unless rain plays spoilsport and messes up everything. They can easily post a lead greater than 400 since they bat deep though we shouldn't rule out England since we know what they are capable of.

If Australia wins this one too, England will need to win the next 3 matches to win the series which is extremely difficult.

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June 30, 2023, 04:33:07 PM
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After finishing the first innings in a great way, Australia started the second innings again in a great way. England finished the first innings against Australia trailing by 91 runs.  After bowling Australia out for 325 runs, Australia came to bat again in the second innings. So far, Australia have collected 130 runs for two wickets. 
Australia is 221 runs ahead of England so far. The third day's match between England and Australia is suspended due to rain while Australia's second innings is underway. Australia is ahead of England in this match so far. If in the second innings a good target can be set up against England by adding several more runs, the chances of England in this match will increase greatly.
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June 30, 2023, 04:41:22 PM
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The lead has now gone past 200. Usman Khawaja is now at the crease with Steven Smith and Australia looks set to impose a target of 400 plus. Looks like another win for the Australians this time. England bowlers looks toothless at this moment, especially the pacers. Even Josh Tongue seems to be struggling. I guess they need to bring on their best bower (Joe Root) and give him an extended spell. This is the third day, so we are almost assured of a result this time. Plenty of time remains for Australia to bowl out England when they come out to bat.

The match is being delayed due to rain. The weather looks like the match will not be played again today. Australia managed to collect 130 runs losing 2 wickets. Australia managed to take a lead of 221 runs. Usman Khawaja is batting well. He is unbeaten on 58 runs. I was very disappointed with the performance of the England players on the third day. No batsman could stay at the crease for long from the start of the third day. England batted very badly. There is a high probability of England's defeat in this match.

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June 30, 2023, 04:49:31 PM
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Bazball seems to be hurting Poms here. I am not against this approach per se, i actually admire the fact that they are trying to do something new with their cricket, which was needed badly.
There is nothing wrong with the attacking style of Cricket but they need to play carefully when the situation is not in their favor and they are failing to adapt to the situation when they are facing tough competition. In the second innings in this match the England middle order tried to play a defensive innings but they failed to stay in the crease for a longer period and it is a matter of time Australia built a huge task and win the match if rain stays away.
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This match is in Australia's grip at the moment unless rain plays spoilsport and messes up everything. They can easily post a lead greater than 400 since they bat deep though we shouldn't rule out England since we know what they are capable of.

If Australia wins this one too, England will need to win the next 3 matches to win the series which is extremely difficult.

England was cruising at 188/1. And then they lost wickets in a hurry and ended up at 325 all out. Harry Brook was the only lower order batsmen who made a significant contribution. Meanwhile, Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith are batting with a lot of patience and they are scoring at a rate of 2-3 runs per over. Australia may be planning to declare by second session tomorrow, but that looks a bit risky for me. The pitch is not offering a lot of support for the batsmen. Ideally they should score runs quickly and try to declare by lunch tomorrow.

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This match is in Australia's grip at the moment unless rain plays spoilsport and messes up everything. They can easily post a lead greater than 400 since they bat deep though we shouldn't rule out England since we know what they are capable of.

If Australia wins this one too, England will need to win the next 3 matches to win the series which is extremely difficult.

England was cruising at 188/1. And then they lost wickets in a hurry and ended up at 325 all out. Harry Brook was the only lower order batsmen who made a significant contribution. Meanwhile, Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith are batting with a lot of patience and they are scoring at a rate of 2-3 runs per over. Australia may be planning to declare by second session tomorrow, but that looks a bit risky for me. The pitch is not offering a lot of support for the batsmen. Ideally they should score runs quickly and try to declare by lunch tomorrow.
Australia leads England by 221 runs at the end of the third day's play. As the third day's play is already over and Australia has only started their second innings so far on the third day, I feel this match is likely to be a draw. However, the unbeaten wicket pair of Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith could be a concern for England. These two main batsmen of Australia are still unbeaten. If they can build a good partnership, Australia's innings can be huge. The England captain will surely want to break the pair of these two batsmen. As long as these two batsmen remain unbeaten, England's pressure will continue to mount.

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June 30, 2023, 05:38:35 PM
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This match is in Australia's grip at the moment unless rain plays spoilsport and messes up everything. They can easily post a lead greater than 400 since they bat deep though we shouldn't rule out England since we know what they are capable of.
If Australia wins this one too, England will need to win the next 3 matches to win the series which is extremely difficult.
England was cruising at 188/1. And then they lost wickets in a hurry and ended up at 325 all out. Harry Brook was the only lower order batsmen who made a significant contribution. Meanwhile, Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith are batting with a lot of patience and they are scoring at a rate of 2-3 runs per over. Australia may be planning to declare by second session tomorrow, but that looks a bit risky for me. The pitch is not offering a lot of support for the batsmen. Ideally they should score runs quickly and try to declare by lunch tomorrow.
Australia leads England by 221 runs at the end of the third day's play. As the third day's play is already over and Australia has only started their second innings so far on the third day, I feel this match is likely to be a draw. However, the unbeaten wicket pair of Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith could be a concern for England. These two main batsmen of Australia are still unbeaten. If they can build a good partnership, Australia's innings can be huge. The England captain will surely want to break the pair of these two batsmen. As long as these two batsmen remain unbeaten, England's pressure will continue to mount.

Australia's innings will be big. Because England's bowlers and batsmen are not playing well. Australia collected 416 runs in the first innings. And the Australian team collected 130 runs after losing 2 wickets in the second innings. Gradually they are moving towards big collections. Since the Australian team has already managed to take a lead of 221 runs, if Australia can collect 150 runs in the next day, it will be a big collection. However, I expected more responsible batting from England in the first innings. Had Bairstow and Stokes played some big innings, England would have been able to muster 400.

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June 30, 2023, 05:53:31 PM
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This match is in Australia's grip at the moment unless rain plays spoilsport and messes up everything. They can easily post a lead greater than 400 since they bat deep though we shouldn't rule out England since we know what they are capable of.
If Australia wins this one too, England will need to win the next 3 matches to win the series which is extremely difficult.
England was cruising at 188/1. And then they lost wickets in a hurry and ended up at 325 all out. Harry Brook was the only lower order batsmen who made a significant contribution. Meanwhile, Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith are batting with a lot of patience and they are scoring at a rate of 2-3 runs per over. Australia may be planning to declare by second session tomorrow, but that looks a bit risky for me. The pitch is not offering a lot of support for the batsmen. Ideally they should score runs quickly and try to declare by lunch tomorrow.
Australia leads England by 221 runs at the end of the third day's play. As the third day's play is already over and Australia has only started their second innings so far on the third day, I feel this match is likely to be a draw. However, the unbeaten wicket pair of Usman Khawaja and Steven Smith could be a concern for England. These two main batsmen of Australia are still unbeaten. If they can build a good partnership, Australia's innings can be huge. The England captain will surely want to break the pair of these two batsmen. As long as these two batsmen remain unbeaten, England's pressure will continue to mount.

Australia's innings will be big. Because England's bowlers and batsmen are not playing well. Australia collected 416 runs in the first innings. And the Australian team collected 130 runs after losing 2 wickets in the second innings. Gradually they are moving towards big collections. Since the Australian team has already managed to take a lead of 221 runs, if Australia can collect 150 runs in the next day, it will be a big collection. However, I expected more responsible batting from England in the first innings. Had Bairstow and Stokes played some big innings, England would have been able to muster 400.
I think Australia is in very positive situation right now. Just a day of good batting will be enough for them to win this match. With a big target in front and more than a day left it'll automatically be very difficult for England to bat properly, Aussies can get quick wickets. I think yes the problem with England is just one player per innings performing correctly.
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June 30, 2023, 06:42:29 PM
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Australia's innings will be big. Because England's bowlers and batsmen are not playing well. Australia collected 416 runs in the first innings. And the Australian team collected 130 runs after losing 2 wickets in the second innings. Gradually they are moving towards big collections. Since the Australian team has already managed to take a lead of 221 runs, if Australia can collect 150 runs in the next day, it will be a big collection. However, I expected more responsible batting from England in the first innings. Had Bairstow and Stokes played some big innings, England would have been able to muster 400.
I think Australia is in very positive situation right now.
First session of day 4 will give better prediction on the match. Even now Australia is at the winning position with its 221 lead and 8 more wickets in hand. Khawaja, who served to be the turn in the first test match is on the crease reaching his half century. On the other side Smith have just started his batting. Anyhow the team will reach atleast 450 runs lead and request England to start their innings. Same as the first match England will lose the match getting close to the target.

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June 30, 2023, 06:55:50 PM
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The lead has now gone past 200. Usman Khawaja is now at the crease with Steven Smith and Australia looks set to impose a target of 400 plus. Looks like another win for the Australians this time. England bowlers looks toothless at this moment, especially the pacers. Even Josh Tongue seems to be struggling. I guess they need to bring on their best bower (Joe Root) and give him an extended spell. This is the third day, so we are almost assured of a result this time. Plenty of time remains for Australia to bowl out England when they come out to bat.

England have given away the match from there own hands and now its up to Australia that whether they want to extend lead or bowl out in first session of 4th day just like England. England were so much well placed at stumps of day 2 but don't know what happen with them on third day first session. Joe Root hasn't been introduced till now but he has done well in first innings by picking 2 wickets. I don't think any English bowler can undo the damage done by English batsmen in first innings.

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The lead has now gone past 200. Usman Khawaja is now at the crease with Steven Smith and Australia looks set to impose a target of 400 plus. Looks like another win for the Australians this time. England bowlers looks toothless at this moment, especially the pacers. Even Josh Tongue seems to be struggling. I guess they need to bring on their best bower (Joe Root) and give him an extended spell. This is the third day, so we are almost assured of a result this time. Plenty of time remains for Australia to bowl out England when they come out to bat.
England have given away the match from there own hands and now its up to Australia that whether they want to extend lead or bowl out in first session of 4th day just like England. England were so much well placed at stumps of day 2 but don't know what happen with them on third day first session. Joe Root hasn't been introduced till now but he has done well in first innings by picking 2 wickets. I don't think any English bowler can undo the damage done by English batsmen in first innings.

I was actually a little surprised to see the performance of England on this day. They should have performed a lot better, to be honest. They have lost six wickets in the span of 46 runs(279-325). I thought England was actually going to get a lead at least. But now Australia has complete control of this match. it is only the end of the third day and Australia has a lead of 221. Australia still has eight wickets in hand and regardless to say that they still have two very good batsmen, Steve Smith and Usman Khawaja in the middle. I don’t think England is going to win this test match in this situation.

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June 30, 2023, 11:11:55 PM
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The lead has now gone past 200. Usman Khawaja is now at the crease with Steven Smith and Australia looks set to impose a target of 400 plus. Looks like another win for the Australians this time. England bowlers looks toothless at this moment, especially the pacers. Even Josh Tongue seems to be struggling. I guess they need to bring on their best bower (Joe Root) and give him an extended spell. This is the third day, so we are almost assured of a result this time. Plenty of time remains for Australia to bowl out England when they come out to bat.

England have given away the match from there own hands and now its up to Australia that whether they want to extend lead or bowl out in first session of 4th day just like England. England were so much well placed at stumps of day 2 but don't know what happen with them on third day first session. Joe Root hasn't been introduced till now but he has done well in first innings by picking 2 wickets. I don't think any English bowler can undo the damage done by English batsmen in first innings.
Over the days the pitch variation definitely have got their impact on the game. England played well upto the 5th wicket, then the consecutive fall of wickets ended its innings earlier than expected. Even the team with complete fast lineup have worked well for England, but it was the mistake in batting that have made Australia have a better lead. Anyhow the match won't end in the 4th day.

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