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July 19, 2021, 09:32:02 PM
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Sometimes I feel that the Sri Lankan team is sliding to oblivion. Given their recent performances, I don't think that they can remain competitive against the top teams in cricket. Hard to believe that this is the same team that was crowned as the champions two and half decades ago, during the ODI world cup. Back then, they had world class players, such as Sanath Jayasuriya, Muthiah Muralidaran, Aravinda de Silva and Arjuna Ranatunga. While other teams (such as Bangladesh and Afghanistan) are improving their performance, Sri Lanka is perhaps the only test playing nation whose performance has gone down.
There is a strike going on in Sri Lanka between the players and the cricket board and even i was surprised to see a new team and initially i thought all those players are injured but then i came to see a news about the players striking and they are not included in the squad and then two of their players are suspended because they breached the COVID protocol so basically they are playing with a second string team.
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July 20, 2021, 03:10:34 AM
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Not only Sri Lanka, but also Bangladesh's performance in the last two years has been bad. And if their experienced players Mahmudulla, Sakib, Tamim and Mushfiq retire, Bangladesh will be in the same situation as Sri Lanka. Because, they have not yet been able to produce young talented players for the replacement of Sakib or Tamim. Compared to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, Ireland and Afghanistan have improved a lot.

When they received the test status in 2000, Bangladesh was regarded as much weaker when compared to teams like Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe. But they made some progress over the last two decades. They are not yet at the same level as teams like South Africa, but improvement has been there. Also, there is enough depth in the talent pool. The main issue for them is that they are overdependent on certain players such as Shakib al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal and Mustafizur Rahman. This weakness can be alleviated only by reforming the domestic cricket.

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July 20, 2021, 06:52:12 AM
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Not only Sri Lanka, but also Bangladesh's performance in the last two years has been bad. And if their experienced players Mahmudulla, Sakib, Tamim and Mushfiq retire, Bangladesh will be in the same situation as Sri Lanka. Because, they have not yet been able to produce young talented players for the replacement of Sakib or Tamim. Compared to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, Ireland and Afghanistan have improved a lot.

When they received the test status in 2000, Bangladesh was regarded as much weaker when compared to teams like Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe. But they made some progress over the last two decades. They are not yet at the same level as teams like South Africa, but improvement has been there. Also, there is enough depth in the talent pool. The main issue for them is that they are overdependent on certain players such as Shakib al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal and Mustafizur Rahman. This weakness can be alleviated only by reforming the domestic cricket.

If we consider Bangladesh after 2000, then Bangladesh has improved a lot. But I am saying that in the last 2/3 years, during 2016/2017, the Bangladesh team was in a very stable position. But now they are not stable. Moreover, the time is coming for experienced players like Shakib Tamim to retire. In the next few years, the Bangladesh team will face disaster.

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July 20, 2021, 07:21:04 AM
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If we consider Bangladesh after 2000, then Bangladesh has improved a lot. But I am saying that in the last 2/3 years, during 2016/2017, the Bangladesh team was in a very stable position. But now they are not stable. Moreover, the time is coming for experienced players like Shakib Tamim to retire. In the next few years, the Bangladesh team will face disaster.

Shakib is 34 years old, and that means that he has 2-3 years of international cricket left with him. Mahmudullah Riyad is another player who is nearing his retirement age. But Tamim still has another 4-5 years. So the BCB has enough time in their hand, to groom young talent. Liton Das has performed consistently this year. Taskin Ahmed is another young player who has performed well in recent times. There is no dearth of talent in Bangladesh. The board just need to make sure that these young players are properly guided.
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July 20, 2021, 10:08:15 AM
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Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to bat and like the first game they started carefully without loosing a wicket and they hopefully they will try to put a good total on the board if not this Indian team will chase them easily even without their main players and for that the middle order has to perform well not just the opening partnership, the odds are not that great but hopefully will get as the match progress.
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July 20, 2021, 10:32:02 AM
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Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to bat and like the first game they started carefully without loosing a wicket and they hopefully they will try to put a good total on the board if not this Indian team will chase them easily even without their main players and for that the middle order has to perform well not just the opening partnership, the odds are not that great but hopefully will get as the match progress.

Underdogs on top in both the ODIs that are ongoing now. Sri Lanka has made 68/0 after 11.3 overs, while Zimbabwe is in a strong position at 225/5 after 43.1 overs. Both the teams badly need 10 points from today's games, as they are currently placed at the rock bottom of the ODI World Cup League points table. Sri Lanka should have had 15 points, but they recently received -2 in penalty for slow over rate. If these teams can't get points from the ongoing series, then they can say goodbye to their chances of directly qualifying to CWC 2023.
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Underdogs on top in both the ODIs that are ongoing now. Sri Lanka has made 68/0 after 11.3 overs, while Zimbabwe is in a strong position at 225/5 after 43.1 overs. Both the teams badly need 10 points from today's games, as they are currently placed at the rock bottom of the ODI World Cup League points table. Sri Lanka should have had 15 points, but they recently received -2 in penalty for slow over rate. If these teams can't get points from the ongoing series, then they can say goodbye to their chances of directly qualifying to CWC 2023.
From a dismal start from Zimbabwe and their struggle in the middle overs till the 40th over, they ended up reaching 298 runs in the end and no one would have expect that kind of performance in the last few overs apart from the last two overs and Bangladesh have a huge total to chase and it is not going to be easy for them to chase this score if their top order fails again.

Sri Lanka already lost 4 wickets and are struggling again, they need to find players that could hold their middle order if not it is not going to be easy moving forward.
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July 20, 2021, 11:43:12 AM
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Zimbabwe's batting against Bangladesh has fascinated me. The batsmen have batted brilliantly. Chakabva and Ryan Buri in particular have done remarkably well. With their help, Zimbabwe managed to collect 298 runs. Zimbabwe gave Bangladesh a huge target of 299 runs. If Zimbabwe's bowlers can perform well, they will win today. Let's see what will happen.

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July 20, 2021, 11:51:27 AM
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Sri Lanka already lost 4 wickets and are struggling again, they need to find players that could hold their middle order if not it is not going to be easy moving forward.

If the players of the Sri Lankan team had performed somewhat responsibly, they could have fought hard to win against India today. After losing the first wicket by 77 runs, they have lost 4 valuable wickets in 134 runs. I don't think the Sri Lankan team can collect more than 260 colors. Sri Langka needed a minimum of 300 runs to win against the Indian team. Because Sri Lanka's bowling lineup is weak.

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July 20, 2021, 11:59:45 AM
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^^ They are repeating same mistakes again n again. Everyone got the start but failed to convert their innings into big ones, in longer run they will learn this trick tho which is necessary for their survival. Indian bowlers are doing okay on this pitch but fielding was average during first power play.

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July 20, 2021, 12:18:05 PM
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Zimbabwe's batting against Bangladesh has fascinated me. The batsmen have batted brilliantly. Chakabva and Ryan Buri in particular have done remarkably well. With their help, Zimbabwe managed to collect 298 runs. Zimbabwe gave Bangladesh a huge target of 299 runs. If Zimbabwe's bowlers can perform well, they will win today. Let's see what will happen.

LOL.. if they win the match today, then Sri Lanka, in all probability will be relegated to the 13th position in World Cup Super League. But then, it is Zimbabwe. They have a reputation of losing matches form a winning position. Bangladesh has got a good start and they are 55/0 after 9 overs. Both Liton Das and Tamim Iqbal looks to be in good touch. Bangladesh need to make sure that they don't lose any wickets in the opening spell from Blessing Muzarabani. The other Zimbabwe bowlers are more manageable.
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July 20, 2021, 12:21:02 PM
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Zimbabwe's batting against Bangladesh has fascinated me. The batsmen have batted brilliantly. Chakabva and Ryan Buri in particular have done remarkably well. With their help, Zimbabwe managed to collect 298 runs. Zimbabwe gave Bangladesh a huge target of 299 runs. If Zimbabwe's bowlers can perform well, they will win today. Let's see what will happen.

I'm just watching this match. Zimbabwe's player was really batting enough well. Now I want to see how the players of Bangladesh perform. 10 overs are over. Bangladesh scored 57 runs without losing a wicket. Great start for Bangladesh. If they do not lose any wicket in the next 10 overs, then I think Bangladesh will win this match.

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July 20, 2021, 12:35:00 PM
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Zimbabwe's batting against Bangladesh has fascinated me. The batsmen have batted brilliantly. Chakabva and Ryan Buri in particular have done remarkably well. With their help, Zimbabwe managed to collect 298 runs. Zimbabwe gave Bangladesh a huge target of 299 runs. If Zimbabwe's bowlers can perform well, they will win today. Let's see what will happen.

LOL.. if they win the match today, then Sri Lanka, in all probability will be relegated to the 13th position in World Cup Super League. But then, it is Zimbabwe. They have a reputation of losing matches form a winning position. Bangladesh has got a good start and they are 55/0 after 9 overs. Both Liton Das and Tamim Iqbal looks to be in good touch. Bangladesh need to make sure that they don't lose any wickets in the opening spell from Blessing Muzarabani. The other Zimbabwe bowlers are more manageable.

Zimbabwe batted well enough and the target of 299 runs was enough to win against Bangladesh's batting lineup. But whatever you say, it’s Zimbabwe and they have a reputation for losing. Bangladesh scored 82 runs in just 12 overs. Zimbabwe's bowlers have yet to take a wicket. At this moment, Bangladesh is more likely to win.

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July 20, 2021, 12:42:15 PM
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I'm just watching this match. Zimbabwe's player was really batting enough well. Now I want to see how the players of Bangladesh perform. 10 overs are over. Bangladesh scored 57 runs without losing a wicket. Great start for Bangladesh. If they do not lose any wicket in the next 10 overs, then I think Bangladesh will win this match.

There is no team cohesion in Zimbabwe. When the bowlers perform well, their batsmen doesn't back them up. And today, their batsmen put up a total close to 300, but the bowlers are looking pathetic out there. Donald Tiripano just now conceded 11 runs from a single ball (a waist-high full toss that was put out for boundary and then the free hit which was hit for a six). For the Zimbabwe fans who are watching this match, it will be quite depressing. The body language of the players suggest that they are not aiming for the win.
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July 20, 2021, 12:46:51 PM
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I'm just watching this match. Zimbabwe's player was really batting enough well. Now I want to see how the players of Bangladesh perform. 10 overs are over. Bangladesh scored 57 runs without losing a wicket. Great start for Bangladesh. If they do not lose any wicket in the next 10 overs, then I think Bangladesh will win this match.

There is no team cohesion in Zimbabwe. When the bowlers perform well, their batsmen doesn't back them up. And today, their batsmen put up a total close to 300, but the bowlers are looking pathetic out there. Donald Tiripano just now conceded 11 runs from a single ball (a waist-high full toss that was put out for boundary and then the free hit which was hit for a six). For the Zimbabwe fans who are watching this match, it will be quite depressing. The body language of the players suggest that they are not aiming for the win.

You are right. Their team lacks coordination of players. If the bowlers perform well, the batsmen perform poorly and if the batsmen play well, we see the bowlers bowling poorly. Zimbabwe scored 298 runs today. If the bowlers had done their duty properly, Zimbabwe could have easily beaten Bangladesh today. Bangladesh collected 97 runs in 16 overs, losing one wicket. Yet both teams have equal chances of winning.

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July 20, 2021, 12:57:18 PM
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You are right. Their team lacks coordination of players. If the bowlers perform well, the batsmen perform poorly and if the batsmen play well, we see the bowlers bowling poorly. Zimbabwe scored 298 runs today. If the bowlers had done their duty properly, Zimbabwe could have easily beaten Bangladesh today. Bangladesh collected 97 runs in 16 overs, losing one wicket. Yet both teams have equal chances of winning.

Even now it is like 50/50. Bangladesh was cruising nicely, but then they lost the crucial wicket of Liton Das. Now the run rate is once again going down, as Shakib Al Hasan is settling down himself at the crease. The plus point for Bangladesh here is that the require rate is still below 6 runs per over, and they need less than 200 runs additional now. Two of the best Bangladesh batsmen are at the crease now (Tamim Iqbal and Shakib Al Hasan). However, just one more quick wicket will give the advantage back to Zimbabwe.
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July 20, 2021, 03:05:00 PM
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Excellent fightback from Lankan's bowlers. Top 3 Indian batters and 1st match winners already out and India still need 190ish runs to win. Its a tremendous opportunity for Indian Middle-lower order, if they want to prove their worth in such chase. Manish Pandey's career might get some lifeline if he's able to use this platform.

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July 20, 2021, 03:14:58 PM
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You are right. Their team lacks coordination of players. If the bowlers perform well, the batsmen perform poorly and if the batsmen play well, we see the bowlers bowling poorly. Zimbabwe scored 298 runs today. If the bowlers had done their duty properly, Zimbabwe could have easily beaten Bangladesh today. Bangladesh collected 97 runs in 16 overs, losing one wicket. Yet both teams have equal chances of winning.

Even now it is like 50/50. Bangladesh was cruising nicely, but then they lost the crucial wicket of Liton Das. Now the run rate is once again going down, as Shakib Al Hasan is settling down himself at the crease. The plus point for Bangladesh here is that the require rate is still below 6 runs per over, and they need less than 200 runs additional now. Two of the best Bangladesh batsmen are at the crease now (Tamim Iqbal and Shakib Al Hasan). However, just one more quick wicket will give the advantage back to Zimbabwe.

I think every player of the Bangladesh team has been able to fulfill their responsibilities properly. Mahmudullah could not score a run but he bowled well. Moreover, young player Nurul Hasan is playing great. He has proved his mettle in the time required by the team. We have seen a remarkable innings of 45 runs from Nurul Hasan.

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July 20, 2021, 03:25:58 PM
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Excellent fightback from Lankan's bowlers. Top 3 Indian batters and 1st match winners already out and India still need 190ish runs to win. Its a tremendous opportunity for Indian Middle-lower order, if they want to prove their worth in such chase. Manish Pandey's career might get some lifeline if he's able to use this platform.

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India lost 3 of their top order batsmen by just 65 runs. But we have to remember that it is the India team. They are talented and experienced enough. At the moment, India have scored 114 runs in 16 overs. Run rate is good enough. And if they don't lose wickets in the next 10 overs, they will get an easy win in this match as usual.

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July 20, 2021, 05:22:56 PM
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Throughout the ODI series ZimvsBAN Bangladeshi players played so well, their is mixture of performance both senior and junior which is great sign. Bangladesh have some quality finisher to sweep the game. Congratulations Tamim for century and Bangladesh win the series 0-3

I thought that Zimbabwe had the advantage after they made a total of close to 300. But once again, they lost a match from a winning position. The team coordination is simply inexistent among the Zimbabwe players. They could have won at least one ODI match. That would have helped them to climb to the 12th position in the ODI league. Now their prospects really look gloomy. Their next ODI series is against Ireland, and if they perform poorly in Ireland, then it is all over for them. I don't think that they will be able to get a series win, with their current form.
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