ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[SirLancelot]

West Indies is currently performing well in only T20 cricket. Other than that I don’t see them performing well in any other format. That’s why I don’t think they are actually going to go deep into the upcoming ODI World Cup. And we can see the same thing happening when West Indies players are playing in franchise cricket. They are performing well because they play T20 well. But they don’t necessarily play well in other formats.

Where you watch West Indies performing well in T20i because I also watch their last few matches, and they were badly failed in this format as well with losing matches against teams like Ireland and Scotland never been ideal and after losing these matches they were unable to qualify for the T20i world cup in Australia mean currently they are badly down and out of the competition with their all current positions are in test match they are at 8th and then in ODI they are at 9th and in T20i they are currently at 7th with any time they can go down because Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are doing impressive job and have enough quality to bring them down at 9th spot which is actually their best spot for all formats in recent time.

[romero121]

West Indies is currently performing well in only T20 cricket. Other than that I don’t see them performing well in any other format. That’s why I don’t think they are actually going to go deep into the upcoming ODI World Cup. And we can see the same thing happening when West Indies players are playing in franchise cricket. They are performing well because they play T20 well. But they don’t necessarily play well in other formats.

Where you watch West Indies performing well in T20i because I also watch their last few matches, and they were badly failed in this format as well with losing matches against teams like Ireland and Scotland never been ideal and after losing these matches they were unable to qualify for the T20i world cup in Australia mean currently they are badly down and out of the competition with their all current positions are in test match they are at 8th and then in ODI they are at 9th and in T20i they are currently at 7th with any time they can go down because Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are doing impressive job and have enough quality to bring them down at 9th spot which is actually their best spot for all formats in recent time.

Based on the performance against South Africa in the last T20 series the above user might've said that West Indies is playing really good in T20 cricket. Those matches were really good to watch and the performance is really awesome that none could've expected such a level of performance coming from West Indies team. This shows that the team is able to perform good and have got able players. The bad part, the same team that performed well used to loss very badly in consecutive matches. This used to be real problem with West Indies team staying at the bottom of the table in all formats of cricket.

[Sithara007]

Who is responsible for the decline of Went Indies cricket? I realized that West Indies players don't have much interest in their national team. They are only found where the money. If a new player perform well in several matches, he quickly gets opportunities in various franchise teams in different leagues, he never dreams of progressing with the national team. Indifference of the players towards the national team ‍simultaneously there is no activity of the board. Due to both of the fact this team is slowly going down.

Arrogance and greed from the players was definitely one of the reasons. Most of them would prefer playing in franchise T20 cricket to national duty. But that was not the sole cause why West Indies cricket went down the drain. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) is also responsible in a large way to their own decline. Unlike other teams, the WICB is a union of more than a dozen different countries. This means that the selection process is very complicated and there is a lot of regional and ethnic bias that seeps in.

[ThemePen]

Arrogance and greed from the players was definitely one of the reasons. Most of them would prefer playing in franchise T20 cricket to national duty. But that was not the sole cause why West Indies cricket went down the drain. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) is also responsible in a large way to their own decline. Unlike other teams, the WICB is a union of more than a dozen different countries. This means that the selection process is very complicated and there is a lot of regional and ethnic bias that seeps in.

Who is here in the world who don't want a luxury life. Everyone wants this knid of life. Just because of this the players greed become on peak. In my point of view the West Indies players keep their first priority is fame. And we all know that due to the T20 matches and the fast playing the West Indies get more fame and their big sixes are also very famous. I think WICB should take action and should select those players who play for the country not for the fame or money.

[mm2543363580]

Arrogance and greed from the players was definitely one of the reasons. Most of them would prefer playing in franchise T20 cricket to national duty. But that was not the sole cause why West Indies cricket went down the drain. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) is also responsible in a large way to their own decline. Unlike other teams, the WICB is a union of more than a dozen different countries. This means that the selection process is very complicated and there is a lot of regional and ethnic bias that seeps in.

Who is here in the world who don't want a luxury life. Everyone wants this knid of life. Just because of this the players greed become on peak. In my point of view the West Indies players keep their first priority is fame. And we all know that due to the T20 matches and the fast playing the West Indies get more fame and their big sixes are also very famous. I think WICB should take action and should select those players who play for the country not for the fame or money.

This is basic human nature that everyone wants fame , name and money and where ever they can get this from they'll go that side either its not for their own country.  Although player should accept this fact that their national duty should be their first priority and they should never leave that for some money .

[BobK71]

West Indies team is declining day after day. The most surprising thing is that the country whose players are most popular in T20 cricket fails to qualify for the T20 World Cup. Almost everyone knows that how vulnerable such a situation with their cricket. A few teams have been added in recent times which are more stronger Like USA and UAE. Both the teams have good players and these teams are driven by ্good foreign players. As a result, teams like Sri Lanka or West Indies can also be weak opponents for them.

Well.. I feel sad sometimes. There was a time (70s to 90s), when West Indies absolutely dominated international cricket. Now they need to play qualifier tournament to get into the ODI World Cup. They do have some of the best players in limited overs cricket. But the problem is that the main priority for these players is franchise T20 cricket, and not national duty. Look at the ongoing edition of the Indian Premier League. Once again, the West Indian players are among the star performers. But when it comes to representing the West Indian national team, their performance suddenly goes down the hill.

West Indies is currently performing well in only T20 cricket. Other than that I don’t see them performing well in any other format. That’s why I don’t think they are actually going to go deep into the upcoming ODI World Cup. And we can see the same thing happening when West Indies players are playing in franchise cricket. They are performing well because they play T20 well. But they don’t necessarily play well in other formats.

West Indies were once the best in T20 but that reputation is losing day by day. They are lagging behind in almost all formats of cricket. They are quite weak especially in ODI cricket. Those who were once ODI World Cup winners in 1975 and 1979 now find it difficult to qualify for the World Cup. If this situation of the team has not yet come to the attention of the concerned cricket organization, then the future of West Indies cricket is dark.

[WatChe]

Arrogance and greed from the players was definitely one of the reasons. Most of them would prefer playing in franchise T20 cricket to national duty. But that was not the sole cause why West Indies cricket went down the drain. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) is also responsible in a large way to their own decline. Unlike other teams, the WICB is a union of more than a dozen different countries. This means that the selection process is very complicated and there is a lot of regional and ethnic bias that seeps in.

This is dilemma of every board, players are more interested in money rich leagues like IPL. Last year CA restricted there players from joining IPL due to Australia tour to Pakistan. We have seen many examples where country is losing series as key players are busy playing T20 leagues. There must be some regulations on T20 leagues and international cricket. The restriction on Pakistani players to participate in IPL as now become a blessing for PCB as players are available for national duty in every series like the one coming up against NZ.

[DanWalker]

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West Indies were once the best in T20 but that reputation is losing day by day. They are lagging behind in almost all formats of cricket. They are quite weak especially in ODI cricket. Those who were once ODI World Cup winners in 1975 and 1979 now find it difficult to qualify for the World Cup. If this situation of the team has not yet come to the attention of the concerned cricket organization, then the future of West Indies cricket is dark.

West Indies has been a great team for a long period of time. They have been producing great players as well. We have got Brian Lara, Chris Gayle, Darren Sammy, and a lot of other great players through the West Indies. Now it is really sad to see what has been happening to the team. The West Indies team was really good in the T20 format even a few years ago. But recently West Indies has become a name that no one actually fears.

Not even in the T20 format. Of course, there are problems going on in the team and also on the board. There is a reason why West Indies players are very interested to play in T20 leagues but not very happy about representing West Indies as a national team player.

[dezoel]

Arrogance and greed from the players was definitely one of the reasons. Most of them would prefer playing in franchise T20 cricket to national duty. But that was not the sole cause why West Indies cricket went down the drain. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) is also responsible in a large way to their own decline. Unlike other teams, the WICB is a union of more than a dozen different countries. This means that the selection process is very complicated and there is a lot of regional and ethnic bias that seeps in.

But I believe it's also all about boards and their policies as well because few years back we have some things while they were dominating world but now in last few years they are having personal issues which are hurting them badly specially quota system for few local boards and other things which are bringing personal ego's as well even they have few top ranked players and management peoples those can settle things but no one interested to have any positive change just because of this right now situation is going from bad to worse.

After launching of CPL their financial situation is improving, so now they need to work on few solid policies which increase their quality and also having better package for top players which is also important.

This WICB union is nothing new we have 95 years rich history of this union which is having one of the best cricketers as well but now recently things are completely mess-up and too many big players are losing their passion with this now fans are also not happy with this all which need quick work otherwise as we will celebrate 100 years of this WICB we will be completely lost this all.

[posi]

Arrogance and greed from the players was definitely one of the reasons. Most of them would prefer playing in franchise T20 cricket to national duty. But that was not the sole cause why West Indies cricket went down the drain. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) is also responsible in a large way to their own decline. Unlike other teams, the WICB is a union of more than a dozen different countries. This means that the selection process is very complicated and there is a lot of regional and ethnic bias that seeps in.

This is dilemma of every board, players are more interested in money rich leagues like IPL. Last year CA restricted there players from joining IPL due to Australia tour to Pakistan. We have seen many examples where country is losing series as key players are busy playing T20 leagues. There must be some regulations on T20 leagues and international cricket. The restriction on Pakistani players to participate in IPL as now become a blessing for PCB as players are available for national duty in every series like the one coming up against NZ.

Restricting players to play in T20 leagues so that they can perform for the national team, actually forcing them to perform for the national team is not going to be the best solution in this case. If a player does not take pride in representing his own country, it is hard to make him do that.

It is true that West Indies players really want money. But at the same time, it is also true that the West Indies board is also very cheap and tries to keep a huge amount for themselves. I think all of this is happening because of the lack of transparency between the players and the cricket board.

[lixer]

Restricting players to play in T20 leagues so that they can perform for the national team, actually forcing them to perform for the national team is not going to be the best solution in this case. If a player does not take pride in representing his own country, it is hard to make him do that.

It is true that West Indies players really want money. But at the same time, it is also true that the West Indies board is also very cheap and tries to keep a huge amount for themselves. I think all of this is happening because of the lack of transparency between the players and the cricket board.

WICB is right now in the worst situation with many issues are rising which are never been good for them because they are not one country having seven or eight countries are playing under one flag and its happening for the last one century which is never been easy they rule the world for long time but now recently they have many on and off the field issues which are creating problems, so many players are not happy to play for this team which is surely big dilemma for them and with this management is also failed to settle problems even they have still enough quality and good players but things going from bad to worse for them if they fail to fix these problems then surely we can have more troubling time in near future.

[Crypto Library]

This is dilemma of every board, players are more interested in money rich leagues like IPL. Last year CA restricted there players from joining IPL due to Australia tour to Pakistan. We have seen many examples where country is losing series as key players are busy playing T20 leagues. There must be some regulations on T20 leagues and international cricket. The restriction on Pakistani players to participate in IPL as now become a blessing for PCB as players are available for national duty in every series like the one coming up against NZ.

I would like to agreeing with you in this point, The way players are chasing money now, I think some countries will go back to the points table later on in the rating point. And especially those teams who are lower in the rankings will be at risk and may face problems in qualifying for the next international tournament due to missing this players.
I think the management board of each country should be stricter to control these activities of the players in addition to introducing rules for this, although there are many instances where the player has come back and played for the country.

[WatChe]

Restricting players to play in T20 leagues so that they can perform for the national team, actually forcing them to perform for the national team is not going to be the best solution in this case. If a player does not take pride in representing his own country, it is hard to make him do that.

It is true that West Indies players really want money. But at the same time, it is also true that the West Indies board is also very cheap and tries to keep a huge amount for themselves. I think all of this is happening because of the lack of transparency between the players and the cricket board.

A player is invited in T20 league because of his performance and appearance in national team. Not many domestic players are invited to play in T20 leagues. As I said CA stopped his players from IPL due to Pakistan tour last year.
We see West Indies players mostly busy in T20 leagues and there national team is suffering alot because of absence of major players. Very soon boards may start taking undertaking from new players before inclusion in national team that they will remain available for national duty.

[Sithara007]

A player is invited in T20 league because of his performance and appearance in national team. Not many domestic players are invited to play in T20 leagues. As I said CA stopped his players from IPL due to Pakistan tour last year.
We see West Indies players mostly busy in T20 leagues and there national team is suffering alot because of absence of major players. Very soon boards may start taking undertaking from new players before inclusion in national team that they will remain available for national duty.

In case of Cricket Australia, the contract salaries are quite good and the cricket board can ask the players to prioritize national games over franchise cricket. That is not the case with WICB. The contract salaries are not that good and a number of regular players are not contracted. And then the players are drawn from over a dozen different independent nations, and therefore there is always controversies related to selection and bias. And then there are allegations from the players related to misuse of the funds that the board receives from the ICC.

[Litzki1990]

The BCB has already announced the 15-man squad for the three ODI series against Ireland in England. The Bangladesh Cricket Board announced Tamim Iqbal as the captain of the 15-member team. BCB has announced the team against Ireland with several changes.
Taskin Ahmed has been dropped from the team and replaced by fast bowling all-rounder Mrittunjoy Chaudhary. Taskin Ahmed has been ruled out of this series due to his injury. Left-arm spinner Taijul Islam has been replaced by Masum Ahmed. Mahmudullah Riyad was not included in the team for this series as before. Afif Hossain Dhruvo has been dropped from this series.

Liton Kumar Das and Mustafizur Rahman will leave for England directly after finishing the IPL. However, the tour of England will not be so easy for Bangladesh. Because the condition of England and the condition of Bangladesh are very different. In particular, Ireland will play in England's conditions, so they will have an added advantage on English soil.

[WatChe]

In case of Cricket Australia, the contract salaries are quite good and the cricket board can ask the players to prioritize national games over franchise cricket. That is not the case with WICB. The contract salaries are not that good and a number of regular players are not contracted. And then the players are drawn from over a dozen different independent nations, and therefore there is always controversies related to selection and bias. And then there are allegations from the players related to misuse of the funds that the board receives from the ICC.

West Indies is the name we only hear in cricket only not anywhere else there exists a country with such name. From day one West Indies team is compromised of players from different Islands and they were brilliant in Test and ODIs till late 90s. The downfall of West Indies started in early 2000 and now there performance in ODI has gone down to level that they have to play world cup qualifying rounds. If WIndies players continue to prefer T20 leagues over national duty then very soon WI will be like Zimbabwe and Kenya.

[Juggy777]

In case of Cricket Australia, the contract salaries are quite good and the cricket board can ask the players to prioritize national games over franchise cricket. That is not the case with WICB. The contract salaries are not that good and a number of regular players are not contracted. And then the players are drawn from over a dozen different independent nations, and therefore there is always controversies related to selection and bias. And then there are allegations from the players related to misuse of the funds that the board receives from the ICC.

West Indies is the name we only hear in cricket only not anywhere else there exists a country with such name. From day one West Indies team is compromised of players from different Islands and they were brilliant in Test and ODIs till late 90s. The downfall of West Indies started in early 2000 and now there performance in ODI has gone down to level that they have to play world cup qualifying rounds. If WIndies players continue to prefer T20 leagues over national duty then very soon WI will be like Zimbabwe and Kenya.

@WatChe WI cricket form has already gone down and I doubt that it’ll ever recover in the coming year’s too, because T20 matches are rising a lot and so is the participating fees for the player’s hence I doubt that WI player’s will chose to play international cricket over T20 matches.

Furthermore I don’t blame the player’s they have been complaining about their salary for quite a while, but the WI cricket board has ignored their pleas and now even if the board fixes it I feel that it’s too late as the WI player’s will not trust them.

[BobK71]

The BCB has already announced the 15-man squad for the three ODI series against Ireland in England. The Bangladesh Cricket Board announced Tamim Iqbal as the captain of the 15-member team. BCB has announced the team against Ireland with several changes.
Taskin Ahmed has been dropped from the team and replaced by fast bowling all-rounder Mrittunjoy Chaudhary. Taskin Ahmed has been ruled out of this series due to his injury. Left-arm spinner Taijul Islam has been replaced by Masum Ahmed. Mahmudullah Riyad was not included in the team for this series as before. Afif Hossain Dhruvo has been dropped from this series.

Liton Kumar Das and Mustafizur Rahman will leave for England directly after finishing the IPL. However, the tour of England will not be so easy for Bangladesh. Because the condition of England and the condition of Bangladesh are very different. In particular, Ireland will play in England's conditions, so they will have an added advantage on English soil.

Playing against Ireland on England home ground will not be easy for Bangladesh team as they played at their home ground. There will definitely be competitive matches. Pitch conditions will favor Ireland's bowlers. In that pitch Bangladesh team will miss Taskin. However, he is eliminate due to injury.Those who have been placed in the team squad against Ireland who are Tamim Iqbal (c) Yasir Ali,Shakib Al Hasan, Mrittunjoy Chowdhury, Litton Das, Mehidy Hasan, Ebadot Hossain, Towhid Hridoy, Shoriful Islam,Taijul Islam,  Hasan Mahmoud,  Mushfiqur Rahim, Mustafizur Rahman, Najmul Hossain hanto ‍and Rony Talukdar.

[Unknown Op]

The BCB has already announced the 15-man squad for the three ODI series against Ireland in England. The Bangladesh Cricket Board announced Tamim Iqbal as the captain of the 15-member team. BCB has announced the team against Ireland with several changes.
Taskin Ahmed has been dropped from the team and replaced by fast bowling all-rounder Mrittunjoy Chaudhary. Taskin Ahmed has been ruled out of this series due to his injury. Left-arm spinner Taijul Islam has been replaced by Masum Ahmed. Mahmudullah Riyad was not included in the team for this series as before. Afif Hossain Dhruvo has been dropped from this series.

Liton Kumar Das and Mustafizur Rahman will leave for England directly after finishing the IPL. However, the tour of England will not be so easy for Bangladesh. Because the condition of England and the condition of Bangladesh are very different. In particular, Ireland will play in England's conditions, so they will have an added advantage on English soil.

Playing against Ireland on England home ground will not be easy for Bangladesh team as they played at their home ground. There will definitely be competitive matches. Pitch conditions will favor Ireland's bowlers. In that pitch Bangladesh team will miss Taskin. However, he is eliminate due to injury.Those who have been placed in the team squad against Ireland who are Tamim Iqbal (c) Yasir Ali,Shakib Al Hasan, Mrittunjoy Chowdhury, Litton Das, Mehidy Hasan, Ebadot Hossain, Towhid Hridoy, Shoriful Islam,Taijul Islam,  Hasan Mahmoud,  Mushfiqur Rahim, Mustafizur Rahman, Najmul Hossain hanto ‍and Rony Talukdar.

Even if Bangladesh's absence of Taskin is a setback the team still has a talented and seasoned lineup. The team's strong batting core which includes players like Tamim Iqbal, Shakib Al Hasan, and Mushfiqur Rahim, can withstand Ireland's bowling onslaught. Furthermore the pace and variation of Mustafizur Rahman can hamper Ireland's batters. Promising young players like Mrittunjoy Chowdhury and Towhid Hridoy are also on the team and they can help the club succeed. Overall, Bangladesh has a chance to battle hard and prevail even though the circumstances might be in Ireland's favour.

[WatChe]

@WatChe WI cricket form has already gone down and I doubt that it’ll ever recover in the coming year’s too, because T20 matches are rising a lot and so is the participating fees for the player’s hence I doubt that WI player’s will chose to play international cricket over T20 matches.

Furthermore I don’t blame the player’s they have been complaining about their salary for quite a while, but the WI cricket board has ignored their pleas and now even if the board fixes it I feel that it’s too late as the WI player’s will not trust them.

Yes its unfortunate to see WI cricket going down like this along with teams like Sri lanka. If teams continue to go down in performance like this then very soon we will left with 5 or 6 competitive teams. As i already mentioned that Kenya is extinct from International cricket and Zimbabwe is no more then an associate team these days.
Meanwhile PCB Chairman Najam Sethi has said that PCB will face 3 million USD loss in case they refuses to play the cup. He further said that PCB is ready to bear these loses as its "a matter of principle". It seems like we will see final decision about Asia Cup and Pakistan participation in ODI world cup very soon.