ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Rabata]

The BCB has already announced the 15-man squad for the three ODI series against Ireland in England. The Bangladesh Cricket Board announced Tamim Iqbal as the captain of the 15-member team. BCB has announced the team against Ireland with several changes.
Taskin Ahmed has been dropped from the team and replaced by fast bowling all-rounder Mrittunjoy Chaudhary. Taskin Ahmed has been ruled out of this series due to his injury. Left-arm spinner Taijul Islam has been replaced by Masum Ahmed. Mahmudullah Riyad was not included in the team for this series as before. Afif Hossain Dhruvo has been dropped from this series.

Liton Kumar Das and Mustafizur Rahman will leave for England directly after finishing the IPL. However, the tour of England will not be so easy for Bangladesh. Because the condition of England and the condition of Bangladesh are very different. In particular, Ireland will play in England's conditions, so they will have an added advantage on English soil.

Playing against Ireland on England home ground will not be easy for Bangladesh team as they played at their home ground. There will definitely be competitive matches. Pitch conditions will favor Ireland's bowlers. In that pitch Bangladesh team will miss Taskin. However, he is eliminate due to injury.Those who have been placed in the team squad against Ireland who are Tamim Iqbal (c) Yasir Ali,Shakib Al Hasan, Mrittunjoy Chowdhury, Litton Das, Mehidy Hasan, Ebadot Hossain, Towhid Hridoy, Shoriful Islam,Taijul Islam,  Hasan Mahmoud,  Mushfiqur Rahim, Mustafizur Rahman, Najmul Hossain hanto ‍and Rony Talukdar.

Even if Bangladesh's absence of Taskin is a setback the team still has a talented and seasoned lineup. The team's strong batting core which includes players like Tamim Iqbal, Shakib Al Hasan, and Mushfiqur Rahim, can withstand Ireland's bowling onslaught. Furthermore the pace and variation of Mustafizur Rahman can hamper Ireland's batters. Promising young players like Mrittunjoy Chowdhury and Towhid Hridoy are also on the team and they can help the club succeed. Overall, Bangladesh has a chance to battle hard and prevail even though the circumstances might be in Ireland's favour.

In One Day International cricket Bangladesh is much prominent. According to their experience they can make a significant challenge to any strong team. On the other hand, in ICC ranking Ireland lower ranked team so the Bangladesh team will have more opportunities to control this series. In this regard, the upcoming ODI series between the two teams could be in favor of Bangladesh. Because in the team senior players will be in charge especially Tamim Iqbal, Shakib Al Hasan, Liton Das, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mostafizur Rahman are expected to perform good. They are experienced enough to beat their opponents.

[lixer]

WI cricket form has already gone down and I doubt that it’ll ever recover in the coming year’s too, because T20 matches are rising a lot and so is the participating fees for the player’s hence I doubt that WI player’s will chose to play international cricket over T20 matches.

Furthermore I don’t blame the player’s they have been complaining about their salary for quite a while, but the WI cricket board has ignored their pleas and now even if the board fixes it I feel that it’s too late as the WI player’s will not trust them.

Yeah, West Indies already down and out of this game where they were trended setter and rule for very long time this all happens due to poor management and politics which is now having vital role in their set-up firs out of the T20i world cup, and now they need to play qualification round for having spot into ODI world cup 2023 their test team is also having not enough quality which give them any positive relief in long run.

Even they already have the good number of quality players for the T20i and ODI which can bring better results but due to inner politics and quota system things are going bad which need to solve if they want to have better future in this game otherwise in near future we will have things more down.

[wiss19]

In One Day International cricket Bangladesh is much prominent. According to their experience they can make a significant challenge to any strong team. On the other hand, in ICC ranking Ireland lower ranked team so the Bangladesh team will have more opportunities to control this series. In this regard, the upcoming ODI series between the two teams could be in favor of Bangladesh. Because in the team senior players will be in charge especially Tamim Iqbal, Shakib Al Hasan, Liton Das, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mostafizur Rahman are expected to perform good. They are experienced enough to beat their opponents.

There is no doubt about Bangladesh performance in ODI and T20i as they are doing better performance and have enough ability to give better results as well but playing in England has never been easy for subcontinent teams due to conditions and pitch is also never been supportive for them, so this series could be not easy for them after having good result at home against Ireland even they have services of few experienced players which are doing amazing job in last few years and bringing team moral high for having good results.

Prediction is not easy even Bangladesh will be favorite to win, but Ireland can take good advantage of home and favorable conditions BCB announces their full strength squad as they are also feeling it's good opportunity before world cup for having good practice in ODI.

[Sithara007]

West Indies is the name we only hear in cricket only not anywhere else there exists a country with such name. From day one West Indies team is compromised of players from different Islands and they were brilliant in Test and ODIs till late 90s. The downfall of West Indies started in early 2000 and now there performance in ODI has gone down to level that they have to play world cup qualifying rounds. If WIndies players continue to prefer T20 leagues over national duty then very soon WI will be like Zimbabwe and Kenya.

Yeah.. until the 1990s, they were among the best. I still remember an England tour by the West Indian team somewhere in the late 90s. Courtney Walsh and Curtly Ambrose had to take most of the burden on their shoulders, since the younger players were not performing. And it got worse from there, after both Walsh and Ambrose retired. The only quality player they had on their squad after the retirement of Walsh was Shivnarine Chanderpaul. But then he was treated very harshly by the WICB, due to various reasons other than cricket.

[ThemePen]

Meanwhile PCB Chairman Najam Sethi has said that PCB will face 3 million USD loss in case they refuses to play the cup. He further said that PCB is ready to bear these loses as its "a matter of principle". It seems like we will see final decision about Asia Cup and Pakistan participation in ODI world cup very soon.

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

[BobK71]

Meanwhile PCB Chairman Najam Sethi has said that PCB will face 3 million USD loss in case they refuses to play the cup. He further said that PCB is ready to bear these loses as its "a matter of principle". It seems like we will see final decision about Asia Cup and Pakistan participation in ODI world cup very soon.

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

When the two good teams play in the tournament,their supporters also want to watch the game. If there is a match between India and Pakistan the audience will have a lot of gathering, which I can definitely say that won't be as glamorous against others. As a proof of this, if we look at the last T20 World Cup, we will realize that when India was dropped from the tournament, the price of the ticket was also reduced. Finally i can say that if ICC want to get a big revenue then they have to create a positive environment for both of the two teams. Otherwise they may have to lose big revenue. As a cricket fan I would like to watch India and Pakistan match.

[rojan]

Meanwhile PCB Chairman Najam Sethi has said that PCB will face 3 million USD loss in case they refuses to play the cup. He further said that PCB is ready to bear these loses as its "a matter of principle". It seems like we will see final decision about Asia Cup and Pakistan participation in ODI world cup very soon.

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

When the two good teams play in the tournament,their supporters also want to watch the game. If there is a match between India and Pakistan the audience will have a lot of gathering, which I can definitely say that won't be as glamorous against others. As a proof of this, if we look at the last T20 World Cup, we will realize that when India was dropped from the tournament, the price of the ticket was also reduced. Finally i can say that if ICC want to get a big revenue then they have to create a positive environment for both of the two teams. Otherwise they may have to lose big revenue. As a cricket fan I would like to watch India and Pakistan match.

These two teams India and Pakistan have devotion in almost all countries. India and Pakistan are two very popular teams. But I think if those who like to watch cricket play, they will listen to the game of India and Pakistan team. I think they have a lot of work to do.  They will finish their work later and enjoy the game of two teams first. So it can be said that many fans are still waiting to watch the game of India and Pakistan. I support Pakistan. But if there is any game of India, I will watch the match of India.  I don't miss it because I like watching India play a lot.

[Sithara007]

These two teams India and Pakistan have devotion in almost all countries. India and Pakistan are two very popular teams. But I think if those who like to watch cricket play, they will listen to the game of India and Pakistan team. I think they have a lot of work to do.  They will finish their work later and enjoy the game of two teams first. So it can be said that many fans are still waiting to watch the game of India and Pakistan. I support Pakistan. But if there is any game of India, I will watch the match of India.  I don't miss it because I like watching India play a lot.

I have a feeling that now they are overestimating the importance of India vs Pakistan matches. Previously we used to have 1-2 matches between these two teams every year. But now, in each ICC event, we have 2-3 matches. After some time, fans will get tired of this. BTW, on the political front, the relations between India and Pakistan have stabilized. But after 12 months, general elections are due in India. Usually during this time, there is always a heightened chance of something untoward happening (during 2019 elections, it was the Pulwama attacks).   

[WatChe]

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

Actually it's India who has decided not to play in Pakistan and now PCB is boycotting ODI world cup in India (its not final though). Najam Sethi said yesterday we have to face 3 million USD loss if we gave up Asia cup and our relations with ICC will go down if we boycott ODI worldcup. I don't its issue to two boards rather it's only BCCI decision that has created this deadlock. Surprisingly BCCI and Indian government has no objection in India Pakistan match to be played in India.

[onecall123]

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

Actually it's India who has decided not to play in Pakistan and now PCB is boycotting ODI world cup in India (its not final though). Najam Sethi said yesterday we have to face 3 million USD loss if we gave up Asia cup and our relations with ICC will go down if we boycott ODI worldcup. I don't its issue to two boards rather it's only BCCI decision that has created this deadlock. Surprisingly BCCI and Indian government has no objection in India Pakistan match to be played in India.

When it comes to the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry, there are always different opinions and perspectives. BCCI decides not to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup, but they will not suffer any major loss. However, if the situation is reversed, PCB have to face financial loss. PCB also addressing concerns about player safety and security in India but they have no other option.

There have been rumors, and proposed of a neutral venue for Pakistan vs India match. This could be a potential solution. Though nothing has been finalized yet.

[DainSLane]

The Royals have completed 10 overs scoring 95 runs and losing 3 wickets. The current score position is good but they need to perform even better to achieve their target. J Buttler has been performing well scoring 22 runs out of 39 balls and is likely to achieve a half-century soon. This will help reduce the pressure on him. It would be great if Buttler continues to play well against Ashwin. This match is expected to be thrilling and I am confident that RR will set a target of over 200 runs depending on their luck. Luck plays a role in their performance.

[Sithara007]

The Namibian captain has spoken against poor umpiring during the World Cup qualifier play-off matches. During the tournament, umpires made some horrible decisions, which favored the two teams considered as favorites by the ICC - United Arab Emirates and United States.

https://www.cricketeurope.com/DATABASE/ARTICLES2023/articles/000003/000362.shtml

During the match between Jersey and United States, a well set Jersey batsmen (Asa Tribe) was given out despite the ball nowhere near the stumps. This resulted in Namibia failing to qualify for the next stage, and Jersey losing the ODI status. Two native teams lost out as a result of horrible umpiring, and two teams made up of foreign players benefited from it. 

[cozytrade]

Meanwhile PCB Chairman Najam Sethi has said that PCB will face 3 million USD loss in case they refuses to play the cup. He further said that PCB is ready to bear these loses as its "a matter of principle". It seems like we will see final decision about Asia Cup and Pakistan participation in ODI world cup very soon.

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

When the two good teams play in the tournament,their supporters also want to watch the game. If there is a match between India and Pakistan the audience will have a lot of gathering, which I can definitely say that won't be as glamorous against others. As a proof of this, if we look at the last T20 World Cup, we will realize that when India was dropped from the tournament, the price of the ticket was also reduced. Finally i can say that if ICC want to get a big revenue then they have to create a positive environment for both of the two teams. Otherwise they may have to lose big revenue. As a cricket fan I would like to watch India and Pakistan match.

If the players of two teams are not strong in the game of cricket then the game of cricket will not be played. So I think if the two teams perform well in the game of cricket then the audience can enjoy watching the game.  The games are ruined due to the mistakes of the players. I am waiting to watch the Indian game. I will not be able to enjoy the Indian match for some days because the IPL league has started in India.

[wiss19]

These two teams India and Pakistan have devotion in almost all countries. India and Pakistan are two very popular teams. But I think if those who like to watch cricket play, they will listen to the game of India and Pakistan team. I think they have a lot of work to do.  They will finish their work later and enjoy the game of two teams first. So it can be said that many fans are still waiting to watch the game of India and Pakistan. I support Pakistan. But if there is any game of India, I will watch the match of India.  I don't miss it because I like watching India play a lot.

I have a feeling that now they are overestimating the importance of India vs Pakistan matches. Previously we used to have 1-2 matches between these two teams every year. But now, in each ICC event, we have 2-3 matches. After some time, fans will get tired of this. BTW, on the political front, the relations between India and Pakistan have stabilized. But after 12 months, general elections are due in India. Usually during this time, there is always a heightened chance of something untoward happening (during 2019 elections, it was the Pulwama attacks).   

I agreed with you about this now life is completely change and peoples have no thrill about matches between Pakistan and India with recent changes which are happened in Pakistan things going from bad to worse peoples badly suffering and have no food so who cares about cricket and matches between these two countries in India after Narendra Modi regime life is also completely change with hate crimes are increasing drastically which is bringing changes in common peoples lives as well even they are doing good at developing and now having strong economy, but life is not easy for many communities.

But here you mention good thing every election we have something big which hit relationship between these two countries, so we can expect something as well in coming months because election is near, and they need some good action for having better results.

[darewaller]

The Namibian captain has spoken against poor umpiring during the World Cup qualifier play-off matches. During the tournament, umpires made some horrible decisions, which favored the two teams considered as favorites by the ICC - United Arab Emirates and United States.

https://www.cricketeurope.com/DATABASE/ARTICLES2023/articles/000003/000362.shtml

During the match between Jersey and United States, a well set Jersey batsmen (Asa Tribe) was given out despite the ball nowhere near the stumps. This resulted in Namibia failing to qualify for the next stage, and Jersey losing the ODI status. Two native teams lost out as a result of horrible umpiring, and two teams made up of foreign players benefited from it. 

I also read about this all which is happening under the supervision of ICC which is helping few favourite countries for having better results and no one caring about this all because they now weak countries are not able to have any strong help, but things like these surely bringing bad impact about ICC and spirit of the game which will have negativity in Namibian and other associate countries as well but again who care about this all ICC mean business, and they are going through for big markets instead of quality and performance which is also important for better future of this game in world.

Specially this all is doing neutral umpires which are under control of ICC, and we can't ask them how dare you are giving decisions like these which are bringing big changes in teams rankings in qualifications.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

Actually it's India who has decided not to play in Pakistan and now PCB is boycotting ODI world cup in India (its not final though). Najam Sethi said yesterday we have to face 3 million USD loss if we gave up Asia cup and our relations with ICC will go down if we boycott ODI worldcup. I don't its issue to two boards rather it's only BCCI decision that has created this deadlock. Surprisingly BCCI and Indian government has no objection in India Pakistan match to be played in India.

When it comes to the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry, there are always different opinions and perspectives. BCCI decides not to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup, but they will not suffer any major loss. However, if the situation is reversed, PCB have to face financial loss. PCB also addressing concerns about player safety and security in India but they have no other option.

There have been rumors, and proposed of a neutral venue for Pakistan vs India match. This could be a potential solution. Though nothing has been finalized yet.

Najam Sethi is adamant that he'll face all financial loss but he is not ready to give up his teams and country's respect and integrity  . So they'll not participate in world cup and also boycotting Asia Cup  due to icc behaviour towards Pakistan and this issue.  
Icc is taking too long to make a decision regarding Asia cup and world cup and because of that many misunderstandings are arising with each passing day.

[BobK71]

In my point of view ICC will never decide to expell Pakistan from ODI world cup. Because if we see that Pakistan and India matches give a handsome amount of revenue to ICC. And therefore ICC will not take this action. If ICC will make a good decision so the both teams India and Pakistan will play ICC. Otherwise these two boards are refusing and against each other. So the good decision will matter more.

Actually it's India who has decided not to play in Pakistan and now PCB is boycotting ODI world cup in India (its not final though). Najam Sethi said yesterday we have to face 3 million USD loss if we gave up Asia cup and our relations with ICC will go down if we boycott ODI worldcup. I don't its issue to two boards rather it's only BCCI decision that has created this deadlock. Surprisingly BCCI and Indian government has no objection in India Pakistan match to be played in India.

When it comes to the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry, there are always different opinions and perspectives. BCCI decides not to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup, but they will not suffer any major loss. However, if the situation is reversed, PCB have to face financial loss. PCB also addressing concerns about player safety and security in India but they have no other option.

There have been rumors, and proposed of a neutral venue for Pakistan vs India match. This could be a potential solution. Though nothing has been finalized yet.

Without the participation of two teams, World Cup cricket will not gain much popularity. The ICC must try to find a solution. But if the venue is given in a different place then there should not be any problem. If Pakistan does not agree to that, then it is understood that one of the two teams will be excluded from this World Cup. But if Pakistan goes against ICC then they will have a big negative impact on cricket. In their present condition Its effect will increase drastically.

[posi]

Restricting players to play in T20 leagues so that they can perform for the national team, actually forcing them to perform for the national team is not going to be the best solution in this case. If a player does not take pride in representing his own country, it is hard to make him do that.
It is true that West Indies players really want money. But at the same time, it is also true that the West Indies board is also very cheap and tries to keep a huge amount for themselves. I think all of this is happening because of the lack of transparency between the players and the cricket board.

WICB is right now in the worst situation with many issues are rising which are never been good for them because they are not one country having seven or eight countries are playing under one flag and its happening for the last one century which is never been easy they rule the world for long time but now recently they have many on and off the field issues which are creating problems, so many players are not happy to play for this team which is surely big dilemma for them and with this management is also failed to settle problems even they have still enough quality and good players but things going from bad to worse for them if they fail to fix these problems then surely we can have more troubling time in near future.

West Indies cricket is on the brink of getting destroyed. They are not interested in playing for the country at all. And of course, no one is actually going to be able to make them play for the country if the players are not interested. The problems that they are facing right now are going to take a lot to be fixed.

snip~

A player is invited in T20 league because of his performance and appearance in national team. Not many domestic players are invited to play in T20 leagues. As I said CA stopped his players from IPL due to Pakistan tour last year.
We see West Indies players mostly busy in T20 leagues and there national team is suffering alot because of absence of major players. Very soon boards may start taking undertaking from new players before inclusion in national team that they will remain available for national duty.

The players are, of course, going to play in the T20 leagues, because the money is a lot compared to the national team. And as I said, they don’t have any interest in playing as a national team player. And that was bound to happen. When the CRICKET board does not care about a player, the player is also not going to care about the national team as well.

[Sithara007]

I also read about this all which is happening under the supervision of ICC which is helping few favourite countries for having better results and no one caring about this all because they now weak countries are not able to have any strong help, but things like these surely bringing bad impact about ICC and spirit of the game which will have negativity in Namibian and other associate countries as well but again who care about this all ICC mean business, and they are going through for big markets instead of quality and performance which is also important for better future of this game in world.

Specially this all is doing neutral umpires which are under control of ICC, and we can't ask them how dare you are giving decisions like these which are bringing big changes in teams rankings in qualifications.

ICC are a bunch of shameless crooks. They know that Namibia is one of the strongest associate nations and if there is a direct duel between them and either the USA/UAE, then the former will prevail. But they wanted to push UAE/USA to the qualifier at any cost, so that additional funding can be allotted to them. In the end both Namibia and Jersey lost out (both in terms of funding and in terms of a spot in the world cup qualifiers). And sadly, these two teams are comprised of 100% natives. And till now, the umpire who made those horrible mistakes hasn't been punished. It seems like he was ordered by the ICC to do that.

[pakhitheboss]

Actually it's India who has decided not to play in Pakistan and now PCB is boycotting ODI world cup in India (its not final though). Najam Sethi said yesterday we have to face 3 million USD loss if we gave up Asia cup and our relations with ICC will go down if we boycott ODI worldcup. I don't its issue to two boards rather it's only BCCI decision that has created this deadlock. Surprisingly BCCI and Indian government has no objection in India Pakistan match to be played in India.

In the end, what matters is whether Pakistan will take part in the upcoming ODI or not. I think they will as they do not have any choice, they are already in talks with ICC as they want to play all their games in two cities (Kolkatta and Chennai). ICC would need to consult with BCCI before giving a confirmation to PCB. In the end the ball again lies on the court of BCCI and I do not think they will decline this request.