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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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August 28, 2022, 11:20:19 AM
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I'm afraid SMB will have a good 2nd half.

Look at the boxscore. https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent.  Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.
So far, POGOY and CASTRO are doing great.

Let's go SMB!

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August 28, 2022, 12:27:18 PM
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I'm afraid SMB will have a good 2nd half.

Look at the boxscore. https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent.  Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.
So far, POGOY and CASTRO are doing great.

Let's go SMB!
Let's than two minutes not as of posting and TNT stays with a good lead of 13 point. SMB is quiet off as well on this game and yes Pogoy and Castro doing their best to tie the series and probably they will gonna take it. Maybe Fajardo is still in the cloud 9 after winning the best player of the conference, there's no doubt for this. Looking at game 6, most probably SMB will go all out next game, but for now we have to commend TNT players for staying alive and tied the series, this is all for the fans.  Smiley

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August 28, 2022, 02:17:27 PM
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I'm afraid SMB will have a good 2nd half.

Look at the boxscore. https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent.  Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.
So far, POGOY and CASTRO are doing great.

Let's go SMB!
Let's than two minutes not as of posting and TNT stays with a good lead of 13 point. SMB is quiet off as well on this game and yes Pogoy and Castro doing their best to tie the series and probably they will gonna take it. Maybe Fajardo is still in the cloud 9 after winning the best player of the conference, there's no doubt for this. Looking at game 6, most probably SMB will go all out next game, but for now we have to commend TNT players for staying alive and tied the series, this is all for the fans.  Smiley

Off night for SMB, Cruz is so quiet and I'm not sure why Ross and Cruz didn't play that long or I mean, unlike in game 3, these two guards are playing solid, with Fajardo dominating inside these two are also making damages. Maybe you are right Fajardo still in the cloud 9, though he plays the same Fajardo as how we know him, but the support ain't there for him.

Castro well read the SMB's design offense, he keeps bothering Fajardo, and he made lots of steals.

Congrats TNT, good for everyone who loves betting, the series is now sure to be extend either 6 or 7 games.

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August 28, 2022, 09:14:53 PM
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Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.
I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.
Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.
Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-2, SMB will have hard time to cope.

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August 28, 2022, 09:18:27 PM
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Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-1, SMB will be hard to cope.
Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.
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August 28, 2022, 09:26:55 PM
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Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent.  Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.

Mikey Williams is trying to regain his usual form that's why he is attempting lots of field goals even though he is not red-hot shooting. It's common for key players to do such as part of regaining their confidence. SMB would be in total danger if Mikey will return on his usual. But since they are doing great on defending him, it results in Mikey not getting his usual numbers and averages.

TNT is composed of good guards however to cover Mikey's inconsistencies. There's Pogoy who is doing great since Game 1 and Jayson Castro, although not doing well last game, but a big help in Game 4 why they were able to even the series.

I like the series ending in Game 7 regardless of who will be crowned as an All-Filipino Champion.

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August 28, 2022, 09:41:21 PM
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Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-1, SMB will be hard to cope.
Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.
Let’s not discredit the effort of the players since they put a lot of time for this and both teams really wants to win the game, it’s just that in game 4 SMB if off and TNT is really focus on winning. This rumor has been there for almost a decade now, game fixing is not a thing anymore especially now that you can easily expose it in social media. Game 5 will be more interesting, waiting for the odds as well before I put some bet, it looks like SMB will bounce back on this.

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August 28, 2022, 09:48:32 PM
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Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-2, SMB will have hard time to cope.
Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.
They just did a good performance in this game. Well, the series is currently tied and we have to see game 5 as it will be really the game where things are going harder.
As it will be like a match that they need to chase and then the next and the last will be like a pressured game to them if they don't get the lead on this one. But no matter what happens, there will be a lead in the series for game 5.

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August 28, 2022, 09:49:17 PM
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Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-2, SMB will have hard time to cope.
Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.
They just did a good performance in this game. Well, the series is currently tied and we have to see game 5 as it will be really the game where things are going harder.
As it will be like a match that they need to chase and then the next and the last will be like a pressured game to them if they don't get the lead on this one. But no matter what happens, there will be a lead in the series for game 5.
There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

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August 28, 2022, 11:46:04 PM
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Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Correct, there are just bitter fans that keep pointing out game fixing. Every final, or even right back to the eliminations, there's always speculation of a fixed game but for decades, all were just baseless accusations and nothing proven up to today.

We just have to enjoy watching the Finals and if gambling, trust the game is fair and square.

Expecting also a Game 7 as others want. The series is getting hotter and more intense.
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August 29, 2022, 07:42:02 AM
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We just have to enjoy watching the Finals and if gambling, trust the game is fair and square.

Expecting also a Game 7 as others want. The series is getting hotter and more intense.

After you place your bet, you need to have that mentality that whatever happened you are into gambling and the outcome is based on how you do your research and how you analyze the possibilities. If you can't accept it, better not to gamble. You will just keep looking for a reason to keep you holding with the outcome that did not favor your bet.

Moving forward, if the series will extend up to game 7, surely it will be more chances for bettors to continue placing their bets and try aiming to win.

SMB fan here so game 7 or not I will be eyeing for the team to win the finals. Good Luck!

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August 29, 2022, 09:50:54 AM
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We just have to enjoy watching the Finals and if gambling, trust the game is fair and square.

Expecting also a Game 7 as others want. The series is getting hotter and more intense.

After you place your bet, you need to have that mentality that whatever happened you are into gambling and the outcome is based on how you do your research and how you analyze the possibilities. If you can't accept it, better not to gamble. You will just keep looking for a reason to keep you holding with the outcome that did not favor your bet.

Moving forward, if the series will extend up to game 7, surely it will be more chances for bettors to continue placing their bets and try aiming to win.

SMB fan here so game 7 or not I will be eyeing for the team to win the finals. Good Luck!

Looks like this is destined to reach game 7. I think bettors will bet on SMB next game, but, I would do the opposite, still TNT then SMB for games 6 and 7. That's the kind of pattern I see in this series, hopefully I'm right.

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August 29, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
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There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.
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August 29, 2022, 10:08:12 AM
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There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.

TNT already scouted their plays and they need to adjust and past the ball to their shooters. They cannot get a good insights with Fajardo because TNT expect that he will shoot inside. They have good piece to use and maybe they should try to give more plays on Perez or maybe rotate the ball until they find vacant player to finish the rim.

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August 29, 2022, 10:30:50 AM
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There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.
SMB has a good coaching staff and most probably they saw that problem that occur on their last game, they will adjust accordingly. With TNT, for sure they will continue to play that good strategy and have neck and neck fight with SMB, game 5 can be more thrilling and I can see a point of 200+ again in the game 5. This is a high scoring game with great team, who ever take the lead for sure will have more confident getting into game 6, for now let's focus on the odds first for the game 5.
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August 29, 2022, 11:56:12 AM
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There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.
SMB has a good coaching staff and most probably they saw that problem that occur on their last game, they will adjust accordingly. With TNT, for sure they will continue to play that good strategy and have neck and neck fight with SMB, game 5 can be more thrilling and I can see a point of 200+ again in the game 5. This is a high scoring game with great team, who ever take the lead for sure will have more confident getting into game 6, for now let's focus on the odds first for the game 5.
Both have an outstanding coaches, they will do everything to win that's why the series is very close. We are now tied with 2-2 score, so games going forward should be very exciting to watch. Next game will be this coming Wednesday, there's no odds yet, but I'm sure it will not be -3.5 TNT, maybe SMB will be the favorite next game.



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August 29, 2022, 12:12:15 PM
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..... but I'm sure it will not be -3.5 TNT, maybe SMB will be the favorite next game.

For sure, otherwise, takers of SMB would be so happy betting on the Moneyline. I think the spread will be -1.5 for SMB just like in game 1. All I know is that the series has been so entertaining so far, so whoever wins game 5 is not a sure winner in the series.

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August 29, 2022, 12:39:22 PM
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..... but I'm sure it will not be -3.5 TNT, maybe SMB will be the favorite next game.

For sure, otherwise, takers of SMB would be so happy betting on the Moneyline. I think the spread will be -1.5 for SMB just like in game 1. All I know is that the series has been so entertaining so far, so whoever wins game 5 is not a sure winner in the series.
-1.5 for SMB are more likely to be the odds, despite of theis loss they are still the favorite team here and for sure they will bounce back. Yes, this series is more entertaining, a different company fighting to get the championship never fails to entertain. But now the focus of many is still with the Gilas, it's good to have the lead against Saudi which should be the game ball or else, many will be mad again at the coaching staff of Gilas, I just don't like the boos of the viewers, they lose their respect.
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August 29, 2022, 01:01:06 PM
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..... but I'm sure it will not be -3.5 TNT, maybe SMB will be the favorite next game.

For sure, otherwise, takers of SMB would be so happy betting on the Moneyline. I think the spread will be -1.5 for SMB just like in game 1. All I know is that the series has been so entertaining so far, so whoever wins game 5 is not a sure winner in the series.
-1.5 for SMB are more likely to be the odds, despite of theis loss they are still the favorite team here and for sure they will bounce back. Yes, this series is more entertaining, a different company fighting to get the championship never fails to entertain. But now the focus of many is still with the Gilas, it's good to have the lead against Saudi which should be the game ball or else, many will be mad again at the coaching staff of Gilas, I just don't like the boos of the viewers, they lose their respect.

That's fair, -1.5 for SMB would make the betting balance as there are some bettors who think TNT could lead the series after game 5. Last game started in a low scoring quarter, but eventually they found their rthym and their shots were falling. Lassiter's 3-point is very important, so has to make more contributions next game.



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August 29, 2022, 01:16:26 PM
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..... but I'm sure it will not be -3.5 TNT, maybe SMB will be the favorite next game.

For sure, otherwise, takers of SMB would be so happy betting on the Moneyline. I think the spread will be -1.5 for SMB just like in game 1. All I know is that the series has been so entertaining so far, so whoever wins game 5 is not a sure winner in the series.
-1.5 for SMB are more likely to be the odds, despite of theis loss they are still the favorite team here and for sure they will bounce back. Yes, this series is more entertaining, a different company fighting to get the championship never fails to entertain. But now the focus of many is still with the Gilas, it's good to have the lead against Saudi which should be the game ball or else, many will be mad again at the coaching staff of Gilas, I just don't like the boos of the viewers, they lose their respect.
Gilas won and really dominates the game against KSA, well it's already expected since KSA is not that good.
Anyway, SMB will still be the favorite team here because of JMF and with a good plays and strategy there's a higher chance for them to take back the lead again. TNT is not losing their hope and still focus on their goal, so far this series is one of the most entertaining game since the pandemic, It's really good to see quality basketball again.

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