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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 16 (45.7%)
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January 02, 2023, 10:41:09 PM
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Anyway, let's not talk about that yet, we still have game 3, let's see who will win and let's see if the series will be over in game 4.

Whoever wins game 3 will have a good feel for the rest of the playoffs. Imagine, getting a 2-1 lead and your team needs to be 2-3 behind to feel you are in trouble.  That's a luxury, and the kind of aggressiveness and confidence will be high for the winner, so game 3 is really important.

I don't think that way. Getting a 2-1 lead is sweet but feeling good for the rest playoffs? I doubt. This is a final series and not unless you are up by 2 games, that would I call a good feeling. If Dragons let's say take the 2-1 lead in Game 3, it's not making sense for them to feel good and relax for the rest of the Finals. If they will still take Game 4 and put Ginebra in a 3-1 lead, that is the stage where they can feel relaxed but make sure no upset will happened as even downed by 3 games, the finals will just end if a team established 4 winning games.

The Dragons might be the strongest team in the PBA right now but not that tough team to beat. Don't want to be overhyped on that team.

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January 02, 2023, 10:55:25 PM
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Gins got huge fan base on PBA so its expected that they got a lot of support from the fans also we can add up that many PBA fans want them to win since its like Philippines against foreign country. If they can beat up the Bay Area Dragons this is a huge pride for their organization since beating them is so difficult knowing how talented and tall their rooster are. They really need to avoid injuries since if one of their stars got that maybe this will lower down their chance to win the championship.

There are only a few games left in the conference. 5 games the most. They are all healthy right now and it needs extremely bad luck for Gin Kings to get one of their core players hurt at this point of the conference. But still, you are right, they need to stay healthy and focus on the games left. They already beat the Bay Area Dragons twice; they just need to beat them 3 more times to win the championship. It is a tall task, but it is doable with the help of the inspiration the fans give to them during the game.

Beating them in the series, yes. But even if they lose as long as this series will be competitive and will reach game 7, I think they will be happy already knowing they are up against a very good team. Some of us think that Ginebra will win all the way after this big 1st game win, but seem like things has already change now.

The Bay Area Dragons are the favorite since game 1 but we Filipinos love underdogs. We root for them almost all the time. And we support our own. It may change for some, but I think the general consensus is still for Ginebra to take home the championship.
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January 02, 2023, 11:16:30 PM
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Anyway, let's not talk about that yet, we still have game 3, let's see who will win and let's see if the series will be over in game 4.

Whoever wins game 3 will have a good feel for the rest of the playoffs. Imagine, getting a 2-1 lead and your team needs to be 2-3 behind to feel you are in trouble.  That's a luxury, and the kind of aggressiveness and confidence will be high for the winner, so game 3 is really important.

I don't think that way. Getting a 2-1 lead is sweet but feeling good for the rest playoffs? I doubt. This is a final series and not unless you are up by 2 games, that would I call a good feeling. If Dragons let's say take the 2-1 lead in Game 3, it's not making sense for them to feel good and relax for the rest of the Finals. If they will still take Game 4 and put Ginebra in a 3-1 lead, that is the stage where they can feel relaxed but make sure no upset will happened as even downed by 3 games, the finals will just end if a team established 4 winning games.

The Dragons might be the strongest team in the PBA right now but not that tough team to beat. Don't want to be overhyped on that team.

Having a 2-1 lead and continue to being aggressive in winning game 4 and if possible to win game 5, after that everything will be accomplished, I remember that famous quote from Kobe's school teacher and that applies not just for the player individually but more on the entire team, relaxing in the end is better when you already achieved your goals, than relaxing in the middle will only have a better chance of a different outcome.

It's not bad to feel great when you are on top, but remember, it is a series and you can only feel that fulfilment once you already win the title.

Moving back to the series, both teams are great and both are competing with the level that fans are expecting from. We will see more adjustments and hassle plays, expect Gin kings to perform the usual where exciting the fans are their favorite spice.

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January 02, 2023, 11:22:17 PM
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Too many expressions were being shared here hehe. Just wait for the Game 3 results.

I don't want this too much speculation that Ginebra is nothing now just because they lose in Game 1. The Dragons are tough, what do others think of this team? Bettor to watch what would be their strategy now that the Dragons were able to expose their weakness.

In Game 2, only Brownlee established good scoring. If they still lose the next game despite locals also having good numbers, then that's what I call a problem.

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January 02, 2023, 11:38:41 PM
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No momentum was being built because of this long break. Both teams just do the usual celebrations they are into every year, out of practice and any basketball-related activities. Since the series is 1-1, it's like they will face off in Game 3 just like they faced in Game 1 where the standing is 0-0.

Maybe today is the day they will resume their practice.

Hope that both teams will show 100% energy tomorrow and we should expect a close game throughout Game 3.
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January 03, 2023, 10:08:31 AM
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Hope that both teams will show 100% energy tomorrow and we should expect a close game throughout Game 3.

They will because this is game 3 and it's a very important game for them.

The line now is already available at stake.
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Ginebra is still a slight favorite with 2.04 ML and +2.5 on the spread.

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January 03, 2023, 10:28:43 AM
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No momentum was being built because of this long break. Both teams just do the usual celebrations they are into every year, out of practice and any basketball-related activities. Since the series is 1-1, it's like they will face off in Game 3 just like they faced in Game 1 where the standing is 0-0.

Maybe today is the day they will resume their practice.

Hope that both teams will show 100% energy tomorrow and we should expect a close game throughout Game 3.

This two team has something to prove since if Dragon will win a championship its like they dominate the whole team in PBA in just one conference only, if Ginebra will win this will also give good glory to the PBA team as this can be a statement to foreign teams that they are not easy to beat.

But let see what goes around for tomorrow since this will be a good game since both legs are fresh came from vacation.

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January 03, 2023, 10:44:05 AM
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No momentum was being built because of this long break. Both teams just do the usual celebrations they are into every year, out of practice and any basketball-related activities. Since the series is 1-1, it's like they will face off in Game 3 just like they faced in Game 1 where the standing is 0-0.

Maybe today is the day they will resume their practice.

Hope that both teams will show 100% energy tomorrow and we should expect a close game throughout Game 3.

This two team has something to prove since if Dragon will win a championship its like they dominate the whole team in PBA in just one conference only, if Ginebra will win this will also give good glory to the PBA team as this can be a statement to foreign teams that they are not easy to beat.

But let see what goes around for tomorrow since this will be a good game since both legs are fresh came from vacation.

That's correct, it's not good for the organization, PBA is a league and yet the visiting team beat them all. Actually, base on record, it was the Bay Area who had the best record and they are very dominant, however, we've witness in game 1 how Ginebra were able to stop the Bay Area, that means they have a chance to win the championship.
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January 03, 2023, 11:01:19 AM
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Ginebra is still a slight favorite with 2.04 ML and +2.5 on the spread.

You mean a slight underdog.

I'm just amused how the coach of the Dragons and coach Tim Cone throwing verbal jabs at each on the press. The Dragons were complaining of the physicality of Cstand on Nicholson which resulted on them losing hehe.

Personally, basing on game 2, the Dragons have found a way on utilizing its height advantage over the Ginebra Kings which is a very critical department to control if you want to win the series. The Dragons are bigger and a taller team and more confident going into game 3 so i think they have the edge at the moment.

Guys, our free game 3 prediction contest is still open, see the link below for more details.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432455.msg61520952#msg61520952

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January 03, 2023, 11:13:23 AM
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Ginebra is still a slight favorite with 2.04 ML and +2.5 on the spread.

You mean a slight underdog.

I'm just amused how the coach of the Dragons and coach Tim Cone throwing verbal jabs at each on the press. The Dragons were complaining of the physicality of Cstand on Nicholson which resulted on them losing hehe.

Personally, basing on game 2, the Dragons have found a way on utilizing its height advantage over the Ginebra Kings which is a very critical department to control if you want to win the series. The Dragons are bigger and a taller team and more confident going into game 3 so i think they have the edge at the moment.

Guys, our free game 3 prediction contest is still open, see the link below for more details.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432455.msg61520952#msg61520952

Coach of the Dragons have adjusted on the physicality of the game, maybe they are not used to to the brand of basketball we have, but what they did in game 2 was very impressive, they were able to make the right adjustment and give the Gin Kings the dose of their own medicine.
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January 03, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
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Ginebra is still a slight favorite with 2.04 ML and +2.5 on the spread.

You mean a slight underdog.

I'm just amused how the coach of the Dragons and coach Tim Cone throwing verbal jabs at each on the press. The Dragons were complaining of the physicality of Cstand on Nicholson which resulted on them losing hehe.

Personally, basing on game 2, the Dragons have found a way on utilizing its height advantage over the Ginebra Kings which is a very critical department to control if you want to win the series. The Dragons are bigger and a taller team and more confident going into game 3 so i think they have the edge at the moment.

Guys, our free game 3 prediction contest is still open, see the link below for more details.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432455.msg61520952#msg61520952

Coach of the Dragons have adjusted on the physicality of the game, maybe they are not used to to the brand of basketball we have, but what they did in game 2 was very impressive, they were able to make the right adjustment and give the Gin Kings the dose of their own medicine.

Yeah, the adjustment of the players after that game 1 lost gives them the determination to compete with how the Gin kings played them, I'm sure they also enjoyed the physicality and now they are using the same kind of defense for the Gin kings, now, we will see how Gin kings will react and how they will adjust.

Both teams got their best coaches on their bench. For sure, they will find ways to win over another, let see and watch with what
they will bring in game 3.

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January 04, 2023, 11:44:15 AM
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4th quarter now and the lead of Bay Area is only down to a single digit.

Time for Ginebra to bounce back, and with the help of the crowd, there's a huge chance that they will win the last quarter and probably win the game as well. Goo luck Ginebra fans and Ginebra bettors, this is our last push.

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January 04, 2023, 12:01:58 PM
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Just got home and watched the game, last 5 minutes in the 4th quarter, and the Dragons are leading by just a few points 5.

Time for Ginebra to bounce back, and with the help of the crowd, there's a huge chance that they will win the last quarter and probably win the game as well. Goo luck Ginebra fans and Ginebra bettors, this is our last push.
The crowd is always with the Gins and that's for sure the majority of them are cheering for their victory. Well, the attendance for game 3 is 15,004.

Just an update: 2:03 time left and score 79-79.

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January 04, 2023, 12:28:25 PM
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Just got home and watched the game, last 5 minutes in the 4th quarter, and the Dragons are leading by just a few points 5.

Time for Ginebra to bounce back, and with the help of the crowd, there's a huge chance that they will win the last quarter and probably win the game as well. Goo luck Ginebra fans and Ginebra bettors, this is our last push.
The crowd is always with the Gins and that's for sure the majority of them are cheering for their victory. Well, the attendance for game 3 is 15,004.

Just an update: 2:03 time left and score 79-79.

I knew it, they came back in the 4th quarter and won big in game 3. Now the series is in favor of Ginebra, it's 2-1. Thanks to the tip shot of Thompson and the clutch 3 point shot of Tenorio. Also, it's sad to see that Nicholson has been injured in the game, looks like it was a serious injury, hopefully he can still play in game 4.

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January 04, 2023, 12:35:32 PM
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Just got home and watched the game, last 5 minutes in the 4th quarter, and the Dragons are leading by just a few points 5.

Time for Ginebra to bounce back, and with the help of the crowd, there's a huge chance that they will win the last quarter and probably win the game as well. Goo luck Ginebra fans and Ginebra bettors, this is our last push.
The crowd is always with the Gins and that's for sure the majority of them are cheering for their victory. Well, the attendance for game 3 is 15,004.

Just an update: 2:03 time left and score 79-79.

I knew it, they came back in the 4th quarter and won big in game 3. Now the series is in favor of Ginebra, it's 2-1. Thanks to the tip shot of Thompson and the clutch 3 point shot of Tenorio. Also, it's sad to see that Nicholson has been injured in the game, looks like it was a serious injury, hopefully he can still play in game 4.

The Never Say Die attitude was witnessed again, the crowd played a vital role on that huge come back by Ginebra. Good thing Japeth did not play in the last minutes, otherwise it might ruin their come back, C.Stand, Malonzo, Brownlee, Thompson and Tenorio really did a perfect job in few minutes left in the game.
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January 04, 2023, 01:00:45 PM
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The Never Say Die attitude was witnessed again, the crowd played a vital role on that huge come back by Ginebra. Good thing Japeth did not play in the last minutes, otherwise it might ruin their come back, C.Stand, Malonzo, Brownlee, Thompson and Tenorio really did a perfect job in few minutes left in the game.
What a comeback win for Ginebra, I really thought they will lose on this game and I'm thrilled to watched the whole game which turns out a lower scoring game for the top two teams. Ginebra proves their heart of a champion and yes the crowd really push them to play better. Kudos to Brownlee and Thompson for doing their job well done, 2 more wings to go and they will bring home the crown again. I predicted the opposite on a local, though I lose happy because Ginebra proves their haters wrong.
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January 04, 2023, 01:17:22 PM
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Just got home and watched the game, last 5 minutes in the 4th quarter, and the Dragons are leading by just a few points 5.

Time for Ginebra to bounce back, and with the help of the crowd, there's a huge chance that they will win the last quarter and probably win the game as well. Goo luck Ginebra fans and Ginebra bettors, this is our last push.
The crowd is always with the Gins and that's for sure the majority of them are cheering for their victory. Well, the attendance for game 3 is 15,004.

Just an update: 2:03 time left and score 79-79.

I knew it, they came back in the 4th quarter and won big in game 3. Now the series is in favor of Ginebra, it's 2-1. Thanks to the tip shot of Thompson and the clutch 3 point shot of Tenorio. Also, it's sad to see that Nicholson has been injured in the game, looks like it was a serious injury, hopefully he can still play in game 4.

A nice comeback from the Gin kings, I was in the impression that the Dragons will switch the series lead and will bring more pressure to the home team, but the never say die mentality really works well in the last quarter, all players who are inside the court are really eager in winning the game, you can see the big difference in the final push between these two teams.

Congrats to all who pick Gin kings for this game, ML and handicap is not by far so for sure most of Pinoy bettors win their bets.

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January 04, 2023, 01:26:56 PM
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The Never Say Die attitude was witnessed again, the crowd played a vital role on that huge come back by Ginebra. Good thing Japeth did not play in the last minutes, otherwise it might ruin their come back, C.Stand, Malonzo, Brownlee, Thompson and Tenorio really did a perfect job in few minutes left in the game.
What a comeback win for Ginebra, I really thought they will lose on this game and I'm thrilled to watched the whole game which turns out a lower scoring game for the top two teams. Ginebra proves their heart of a champion and yes the crowd really push them to play better. Kudos to Brownlee and Thompson for doing their job well done, 2 more wings to go and they will bring home the crown again. I predicted the opposite on a local, though I lose happy because Ginebra proves their haters wrong.
It's too early to celebrate, there are still more games to come, if Bay Area will win game 4, then this series will be tied. I'm just wondering if they will still use Nicholson in game 4 after what happen to him, it looks like it was a bad ankle sprain, but if he does not play, I believe the other import will be ready for the challenge.

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January 04, 2023, 02:20:19 PM
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Just a quick trivia. 50 of the 78 teams who won Game 3 in a best of 7 PBA Finals are winning the whole series. Well, I just saw it while watching the whole game. They just flashed it on the screen, and I just shared it Smiley. Quite a high percentage indeed, but there is still a chance for the opposing team.

Congratulations to the Gin Kings for their comeback win in Game 3. They are down pretty much the whole 3rd quarter and there are times that they are down by double digits, but they climbed back slowly in the 4th quarter, and they outscored them thus, getting the victory. With this win, I remember how the Ginebra also made a comeback against the Hotshots and the Beermen during the eliminations.

On the other hand, Nicholson, Zhu SongWei and Blankley all got into foul trouble and Blankley got fouled out and that might affect the whole team. I'm worried if Nicholson can play in Game 4 after that ankle sprain in the final seconds of the game. There are questions that are coming into my mind. Can Nicholson play in Game 4 and if not, will Powell play for the first time against the Gin Kings. Let's wait on Friday and see which import the Dragons will use. It would be exciting to see Powell playing against the Ginebra for the first time Cheesy.

 
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January 04, 2023, 02:41:26 PM
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It's too early to celebrate, there are still more games to come, if Bay Area will win game 4, then this series will be tied. I'm just wondering if they will still use Nicholson in game 4 after what happen to him, it looks like it was a bad ankle sprain, but if he does not play, I believe the other import will be ready for the challenge.

It looks like a bad sprain because he was carried out of the court and the news said that he was brought to a hospital in a wheelchair. It is just a day's rest before the next game so I am doubtful he will be able to make it. I do not have information about the status of Powell, but if he is healthy now, maybe he will play as the import of Bay Area Dragon.

If Powell plays as an import, the Bay Area Dragon will be more dangerous offensively. But if both imports will not be able to play, then Ginebra will be at a big advantage. They will be too much for the Bay Area Dragons to handle. They can win with the Dragon's import playing, how much more if there is no one who will handle Brownlee?
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