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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
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December 02, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
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Is Fajardo already out for the season? I saw ha had some kind of bandage in his and shoulder in their last game.

Not out of the season yet but per report, he will be out 4 to 6 weeks and with that timeframe, the Beermen should have at least played 10 games already and as we all know that SMB Beermen is not so lethal if they in the twice to beat disadvantage come the quarters.

4 to 6 weeks is like out of the Governor's cup I guess. So that means no more JMF which is tough for the SMB since he is a very dominant big man and their MVP. It's time for the other bigs to step up, maybe Brondial will earn more minutes, and Manuel as well I guess, but I haven't seen him anymore in the line up.

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We have only one game today, finally ROS got their first win, and the spread was -3.5, so they also win that as they won 5 points.

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December 02, 2023, 02:14:08 PM
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Is Fajardo already out for the season? I saw ha had some kind of bandage in his and shoulder in their last game.

Not out of the season yet but per report, he will be out 4 to 6 weeks and with that timeframe, the Beermen should have at least played 10 games already and as we all know that SMB Beermen is not so lethal if they in the twice to beat disadvantage come the quarters.

4 to 6 weeks is like out of the Governor's cup I guess. So that means no more JMF which is tough for the SMB since he is a very dominant big man and their MVP. It's time for the other bigs to step up, maybe Brondial will earn more minutes, and Manuel as well I guess, but I haven't seen him anymore in the line up.

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We have only one game today, finally ROS got their first win, and the spread was -3.5, so they also win that as they won 5 points.

They are due for that win, ROS has just been waiting for the right match up and against the Blackwater, they were the obvious better team, however it wasn't easy for them as they only won by a single digit. I hope from here they'll start winning, however, this is just a young team with only Belga and Gabe who are the old players here that has been in the elimination many times in the past and have won a championship IIRC.

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December 02, 2023, 03:30:48 PM
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Is Fajardo already out for the season? I saw ha had some kind of bandage in his and shoulder in their last game.

Not out of the season yet but per report, he will be out 4 to 6 weeks and with that timeframe, the Beermen should have at least played 10 games already and as we all know that SMB Beermen is not so lethal if they in the twice to beat disadvantage come the quarters.

4 to 6 weeks is like out of the Governor's cup I guess. So that means no more JMF which is tough for the SMB since he is a very dominant big man and their MVP. It's time for the other bigs to step up, maybe Brondial will earn more minutes, and Manuel as well I guess, but I haven't seen him anymore in the line up.

____________________

We have only one game today, finally ROS got their first win, and the spread was -3.5, so they also win that as they won 5 points.

They are due for that win, ROS has just been waiting for the right match up and against the Blackwater, they were the obvious better team, however it wasn't easy for them as they only won by a single digit. I hope from here they'll start winning, however, this is just a young team with only Belga and Gabe who are the old players here that has been in the elimination many times in the past and have won a championship IIRC.

Finally they win though  like what you mentioned it's expected win as they  are more competitive compared with their opponent, I like the way you mention both Beu and Gabe but you forgot mentioning my all time favorite,  big game James is also with them and finally he played some minutes and made some 3's, I miss him a lot hopefully he will start playing back before the season ends. 😉

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December 02, 2023, 03:43:53 PM
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but you forgot mentioning my all time favorite,  big game James is also with them and finally he played some minutes and made some 3's, I miss him a lot hopefully he will start playing back before the season ends. 😉

Missing him too; he was one of the stars I followed, especially during his time with Magnolia Hotshots before he was traded for Paul Lee. James Yap is already a veteran, and I'm glad he's still playing, even if the team doesn't fully utilize him. But, forget about that, what matters now is they had a big win, and perhaps this could be a turning point for them. Maybe they'll start winning consistently from here on?

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December 02, 2023, 04:09:18 PM
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but you forgot mentioning my all time favorite,  big game James is also with them and finally he played some minutes and made some 3's, I miss him a lot hopefully he will start playing back before the season ends. 😉

Missing him too; he was one of the stars I followed, especially during his time with Magnolia Hotshots before he was traded for Paul Lee. James Yap is already a veteran, and I'm glad he's still playing, even if the team doesn't fully utilize him. But, forget about that, what matters now is they had a big win, and perhaps this could be a turning point for them. Maybe they'll start winning consistently from here on?
Big game James Yap is one of my favorites in PBA and we all know that ability of this player, we all know how he handle his temates how he  play inside the Court. And the best thing for me and the reason why I admire him is his moves like a 1 hander shot and his three's are too away from the line but still he can manage a big shot. Before he trade for Paul lee James  have a good minutes of playing time when thier coach is coach tim which is we are all know how he trust big game in the court.

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December 02, 2023, 04:51:37 PM
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but you forgot mentioning my all time favorite,  big game James is also with them and finally he played some minutes and made some 3's, I miss him a lot hopefully he will start playing back before the season ends. 😉

Missing him too; he was one of the stars I followed, especially during his time with Magnolia Hotshots before he was traded for Paul Lee. James Yap is already a veteran, and I'm glad he's still playing, even if the team doesn't fully utilize him. But, forget about that, what matters now is they had a big win, and perhaps this could be a turning point for them. Maybe they'll start winning consistently from here on?
Big game James Yap is one of my favorites in PBA and we all know that ability of this player, we all know how he handle his temates how he  play inside the Court. And the best thing for me and the reason why I admire him is his moves like a 1 hander shot and his three's are too away from the line but still he can manage a big shot. Before he trade for Paul lee James  have a good minutes of playing time when thier coach is coach tim which is we are all know how he trust big game in the court.

James Yap is already 41 years, we can already consider him as an old player so we cannot anymore expect that he'll live up his name "big game". We've seen his prime years and we can all agree that he is entertaining to watch, but before he was traded for Paul Lee, he was not anymore producing consistent numbers with Magnolia that time, so it was a bad gamble by ROS to deal with that trade. But anyway, James Yap is still James Yap, he can attract the crowd and that's what helps a team to gather viewers.

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December 02, 2023, 05:27:25 PM
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but you forgot mentioning my all time favorite,  big game James is also with them and finally he played some minutes and made some 3's, I miss him a lot hopefully he will start playing back before the season ends. 😉

Missing him too; he was one of the stars I followed, especially during his time with Magnolia Hotshots before he was traded for Paul Lee. James Yap is already a veteran, and I'm glad he's still playing, even if the team doesn't fully utilize him. But, forget about that, what matters now is they had a big win, and perhaps this could be a turning point for them. Maybe they'll start winning consistently from here on?
Big game James Yap is one of my favorites in PBA and we all know that ability of this player, we all know how he handle his temates how he  play inside the Court. And the best thing for me and the reason why I admire him is his moves like a 1 hander shot and his three's are too away from the line but still he can manage a big shot. Before he trade for Paul lee James  have a good minutes of playing time when thier coach is coach tim which is we are all know how he trust big game in the court.

James Yap is already 41 years, we can already consider him as an old player so we cannot anymore expect that he'll live up his name "big game". We've seen his prime years and we can all agree that he is entertaining to watch, but before he was traded for Paul Lee, he was not anymore producing consistent numbers with Magnolia that time, so it was a bad gamble by ROS to deal with that trade. But anyway, James Yap is still James Yap, he can attract the crowd and that's what helps a team to gather viewers.

Just for gaining viewers but for the game itself you are right it's a dine deal for James, especially now that he is already 41 and a city councilor all now for the fans and like what the management said that they will give him the contact for him to stay, just happy seeing him playing and contributing even  the numbers is uncomparable to what he can produce during his prime. 

A win is a win for ROS today and for sure it gives a lot of entertainment for fan like me who missed James..

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December 02, 2023, 07:59:05 PM
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but you forgot mentioning my all time favorite,  big game James is also with them and finally he played some minutes and made some 3's, I miss him a lot hopefully he will start playing back before the season ends. 😉

Missing him too; he was one of the stars I followed, especially during his time with Magnolia Hotshots before he was traded for Paul Lee. James Yap is already a veteran, and I'm glad he's still playing, even if the team doesn't fully utilize him. But, forget about that, what matters now is they had a big win, and perhaps this could be a turning point for them. Maybe they'll start winning consistently from here on?
James Yap can still play but we should not expect that much because we know he’s already old and we might not see the same intensity the way he played on his younger years, let’s just accept this and we should be more happy that we are still seeing him playing in court despite of limited time. ROS should come up into a better a game play to continue this winning.
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LA Tenorio is back, he played tonight starting in the 2nd half of the game, and it seems like nothing's changed as he made 2 straight 3 point shots already. This is amazing for the Gin King, Tenorio is a good example of the "never say die" attitude of Ginebra family, I'm happy for him.

I'm watching live online now, but unfortunately I have to endure this delayed telecast as they have been actively putting down illegal streams, lots of interruption if I'd choose to watch on their streams, so no choice.



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December 03, 2023, 12:09:58 PM
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I don't know what's the spread on the Ginebra vs DYIP game but i think it is not below 10 points, might be 11 and the question here is that will the Ginebra Kings would cover the spread. It's been a long time that they have not cover the spread on their game but at the moment they are leading by 11 points in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes to go in the ball game.

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I don't know what's the spread on the Ginebra vs DYIP game but i think it is not below 10 points, might be 11 and the question here is that will the Ginebra Kings would cover the spread. It's been a long time that they have not cover the spread on their game but at the moment they are leading by 11 points in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes to go in the ball game.

I was able to bet on this game, AFAIR, the handicap that I took was +10.5.

Currently, Ginebra is still controlling the game, but as long as the game isn't over yet, there's still a chance of winning. DYIP is one of the weakest team, while Ginebra is the best team, so I believe most bettors would still put their moeny on the -10.5 despite the spread is high.

I'm hoping in the 4th quarter it will be a close game so DYIP would be able to cover even if they'll loss.

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December 03, 2023, 12:32:29 PM
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I was able to bet on this game, AFAIR, the handicap that I took was +10.5.


The game is already over but still on on the delayed live, hehe..

Unfortunately your bet didn't win as Ginebra had won the game by 11 points, that 0.5 was a killer bro, sorry but boune back next time.
Ginebra is just too much for the DYIP, they have offense everywhere and DYIP's import can even be guarded by C. Stand, so who would guard, Ginebra's import? That's why I'd say it's an easy win for the Gin King.

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December 03, 2023, 12:53:52 PM
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I was able to bet on this game, AFAIR, the handicap that I took was +10.5.


The game is already over but still on on the delayed live, hehe..

Unfortunately your bet didn't win as Ginebra had won the game by 11 points, that 0.5 was a killer bro, sorry but boune back next time.
Ginebra is just too much for the DYIP, they have offense everywhere and DYIP's import can even be guarded by C. Stand, so who would guard, Ginebra's import? That's why I'd say it's an easy win for the Gin King.

Actually I checked again after the game and I was wrong because my bet turns out it's +11.5, so I won !



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December 03, 2023, 01:03:20 PM
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I was able to bet on this game, AFAIR, the handicap that I took was +10.5.


The game is already over but still on on the delayed live, hehe..

Unfortunately your bet didn't win as Ginebra had won the game by 11 points, that 0.5 was a killer bro, sorry but boune back next time.
Ginebra is just too much for the DYIP, they have offense everywhere and DYIP's import can even be guarded by C. Stand, so who would guard, Ginebra's import? That's why I'd say it's an easy win for the Gin King.

Actually I checked again after the game and I was wrong because my bet turns out it's +11.5, so I won !



^^^It's just a small amount of bet though, I use a local bookie link to my gcash account and it's easier to bet compared to using crypto for betting. It's not that I'm using it on a daily basis, I still use crypto sportsbooks since I'm earning bitcoin so it's easy to move also. Just having lots of alternatives makes our betting experience amazing.  Smiley

So with that, Ginebra Kings still fails to cover the spread hehe.

Let's just watch out on their next game if still the spread would be high then we will bet on their opponent with that high handicap.

Congrats mate and yeah that local bookies of ours is very convenient and easy to use just like the online sabong hehe.

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December 03, 2023, 01:26:00 PM
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I was able to bet on this game, AFAIR, the handicap that I took was +10.5.


The game is already over but still on on the delayed live, hehe..

Unfortunately your bet didn't win as Ginebra had won the game by 11 points, that 0.5 was a killer bro, sorry but boune back next time.
Ginebra is just too much for the DYIP, they have offense everywhere and DYIP's import can even be guarded by C. Stand, so who would guard, Ginebra's import? That's why I'd say it's an easy win for the Gin King.

Actually I checked again after the game and I was wrong because my bet turns out it's +11.5, so I won !



^^^It's just a small amount of bet though, I use a local bookie link to my gcash account and it's easier to bet compared to using crypto for betting. It's not that I'm using it on a daily basis, I still use crypto sportsbooks since I'm earning bitcoin so it's easy to move also. Just having lots of alternatives makes our betting experience amazing.  Smiley

So with that, Ginebra Kings still fails to cover the spread hehe.

Let's just watch out on their next game if still the spread would be high then we will bet on their opponent with that high handicap.

Congrats mate and yeah that local bookies of ours is very convenient and easy to use just like the online sabong hehe.

The only problem I face with our local bookie is it doesn't have a huge market, like the bet builder feature on the popular casinos here in the forum.

I have explored this local bookie as well, I think this is the only one that has partnered gcash (licensed by PAGCOR) so we have no other options although this is the safest one. However, I'm not here to complain though, I'm just hoping that they'll be more competitive as the market is huge, so in order to retain and attract more gamblers, they need to show that they are like a one-stop-shop.

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December 03, 2023, 08:03:25 PM
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I was able to bet on this game, AFAIR, the handicap that I took was +10.5.


The game is already over but still on on the delayed live, hehe..

Unfortunately your bet didn't win as Ginebra had won the game by 11 points, that 0.5 was a killer bro, sorry but boune back next time.
Ginebra is just too much for the DYIP, they have offense everywhere and DYIP's import can even be guarded by C. Stand, so who would guard, Ginebra's import? That's why I'd say it's an easy win for the Gin King.

Actually I checked again after the game and I was wrong because my bet turns out it's +11.5, so I won !



^^^It's just a small amount of bet though, I use a local bookie link to my gcash account and it's easier to bet compared to using crypto for betting. It's not that I'm using it on a daily basis, I still use crypto sportsbooks since I'm earning bitcoin so it's easy to move also. Just having lots of alternatives makes our betting experience amazing.  Smiley

So with that, Ginebra Kings still fails to cover the spread hehe.

Let's just watch out on their next game if still the spread would be high then we will bet on their opponent with that high handicap.

Congrats mate and yeah that local bookies of ours is very convenient and easy to use just like the online sabong hehe.

The only problem I face with our local bookie is it doesn't have a huge market, like the bet builder feature on the popular casinos here in the forum.

I have explored this local bookie as well, I think this is the only one that has partnered gcash (licensed by PAGCOR) so we have no other options although this is the safest one. However, I'm not here to complain though, I'm just hoping that they'll be more competitive as the market is huge, so in order to retain and attract more gamblers, they need to show that they are like a one-stop-shop.

I get your point though not really that much in terms of utilizing the site as I mostly bet using stake.com  but you are right there are many adjustments that can be done to attract more gamblers to use the site, they've got the advantage as they are partners with gcash and they are recognized by pagcor, meaning to say that gambler will have that impression that it is safe to use the platform.

Improvement can happen anytime as if Demands will call its way to address more possible clients.  PBA do caters gamblers giving them more options will allow them not to look for other alternatives.

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December 03, 2023, 08:41:43 PM
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The only problem I face with our local bookie is it doesn't have a huge market, like the bet builder feature on the popular casinos here in the forum.

I have explored this local bookie as well, I think this is the only one that has partnered gcash (licensed by PAGCOR) so we have no other options although this is the safest one. However, I'm not here to complain though, I'm just hoping that they'll be more competitive as the market is huge, so in order to retain and attract more gamblers, they need to show that they are like a one-stop-shop.
Far from being perfect but still a good local site to place a bet especially with PBA, though you have your point here that there’s still a lot of things for improvement and maybe a good marketing strategy to spread awareness about this local bookie. Anyway, as expected with Ginebra to get an easy win here but still kudos for giving all out for DYIP as they also played a good game here.

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December 03, 2023, 09:06:20 PM
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Energetic import of NLEX has been fired, he was a good one but the team decided to let him go.
Typically, no one dare to touch Pido. Politics..politics..politics everywhere on PBA.
This is not new, if you have the money and connections, you can still get out of it no matter what the issue is.
Well, that import deserve a better league and PBA might not meant for him. The PBA should be more strict when it comes to punishing whoever made a serious mistake and not the one who are the victim. This is the problem with PBA until now, there is too much politics and those who are on top always have the influence for every decisions.
Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.

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December 04, 2023, 06:19:28 AM
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The only problem I face with our local bookie is it doesn't have a huge market, like the bet builder feature on the popular casinos here in the forum.

I have explored this local bookie as well, I think this is the only one that has partnered gcash (licensed by PAGCOR) so we have no other options although this is the safest one. However, I'm not here to complain though, I'm just hoping that they'll be more competitive as the market is huge, so in order to retain and attract more gamblers, they need to show that they are like a one-stop-shop.
Far from being perfect but still a good local site to place a bet especially with PBA, though you have your point here that there’s still a lot of things for improvement and maybe a good marketing strategy to spread awareness about this local bookie.
Most likely bettors will focus more on the reputation of the site than the market it offered. Currently, since there's only one that we can sure it's legit as it's license by PAGCOR, I'm sure they'll get a lot of high rollers since these people doesn't want to look fancy with the markets offered, rather they're here to make huge bets on single line or odds.

Anyway, as expected with Ginebra to get an easy win here but still kudos for giving all out for DYIP as they also played a good game here.

It was always easy for them if they'll play bad team. DYIP and Blackwater seemed to be the only teams in the PBA that are so consistent on its' ranking at the bottom, so bettors would be lucky if they would win betting on the handicap as that means they compete a bit, however, it's too risky, I wouldn't trust a weak team regardless of the handicap, especially against Ginebra and other strong teams.

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December 04, 2023, 01:04:58 PM
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Energetic import of NLEX has been fired, he was a good one but the team decided to let him go.
Typically, no one dare to touch Pido. Politics..politics..politics everywhere on PBA.
This is not new, if you have the money and connections, you can still get out of it no matter what the issue is.
Well, that import deserve a better league and PBA might not meant for him. The PBA should be more strict when it comes to punishing whoever made a serious mistake and not the one who are the victim. This is the problem with PBA until now, there is too much politics and those who are on top always have the influence for every decisions.
Yup, it's like a new day in the league when someone touches the mighty coaches or commissioners that have power to degrade and deport you as an import. That is the reason why the local players don't want to mess them around when they are still in contract and they don't want to name names or call out. You see the other retired PBA players, they're all free to name names now as if they're able to escape from a cage that's stopping them to voice out their authentic opinions about coaches and the league itself.
That's PBA, it's full of politics, but you can tell that his league is slowly dying.

If you would notice on the recent games, their were only few auidence watching the game, so the question is, where are they gonna get the money to sustain the operation. The answer is, it's the big companies like SMB and TNT who are sponsoring this, and that's the rason why these team owners have much incfluence in the PBA. As to punishing players, it's the decision of the commissioner, maybe it' looks bias but they have the power so there's nothing we can do.

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