[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[BitcoinPappi]

SP-Tech support is world class not only in the Bitcoin industry but technical support in general

• Upgraded to the latest firmware
• Made the change in their technical blog as advised echo 1 > /etc/mg_dc2dc_temp_ignore)
• Now hashing away
• Offered to ssh into the machine

You cannot ask for better server . Hopefully they don't tease us with all these nice customer services then turn into BFL and KNC

I agree they have been very helpful ...
meanwhile got the Loop9 problem again - Just upgraded to 2.4.40 and noticed the fans were set to 70% and some of the ASICS were at 115c .. configured the Fans back to 80%, restarted miner gate and had the issue you earlier described. I just reboot the machine and is hashing away.

The latest that I am on is 2.4.20 . Nothing else comes back for SP when I try to upgrade

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[bobsmoke]

The latest that I am on is 2.4.20 . Nothing else comes back for SP when I try to upgrade

My bad, you are right the version is 2.4.20

[BitcoinPappi]

The latest that I am on is 2.4.20 . Nothing else comes back for SP when I try to upgrade

My bad, you are right the version is 2.4.20

Cool Talked too early for me. I have no more errors but it is still not stable. Will have to follow up with SP-Teach tomorrow

[adam3us]

Beautiful well built hardware is great but it does no good if btc price keeps falling and difficulty keeps going up. How good is a miner if BTC goes sub $100 and it costs more to power the thing than it earns.  

Miners need to shut down but as long as people speculate that BTC will rise in the future they will continue to mine at a loss today.

I am not sure they will continue to mine.  It is more profitable to switch off older equipment and buy bitcoin than spend electricity at loss making J/BTC cost basis.

Its normal at any given time that people will be switching off previous gen equipment as newer more electrically efficient equipment pushes old hardware below electrical breakeven with sunk cost economics (ie even losing money based on electrical cost, ignoring purchase cost).

Same thing happened to CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs... now its the turn of old gen ASICs.

Once they adapt difficulty will flatten or even fall, sell pressure will relieve and price will rise.  Flatter difficulty will help also because it extends equipment life-time which makes planning easier.

Thats what I think anyway.

Adam

[klondike_bar]

Beautiful well built hardware is great but it does no good if btc price keeps falling and difficulty keeps going up. How good is a miner if BTC goes sub $100 and it costs more to power the thing than it earns.  

Miners need to shut down but as long as people speculate that BTC will rise in the future they will continue to mine at a loss today.

I am not sure they will continue to mine.  It is more profitable to switch off older equipment and buy bitcoin than spend electricity at loss making J/BTC cost basis.

Its normal at any given time that people will be switching off previous gen equipment as newer more electrically efficient equipment pushes old hardware below electrical breakeven with sunk cost economics (ie even losing money based on electrical cost, ignoring purchase cost).

Same thing happened to CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs... now its the turn of old gen ASICs.

Once they adapt difficulty will flatten or even fall, sell pressure will relieve and price will rise.  Flatter difficulty will help also because it extends equipment life-time which makes planning easier.

Thats what I think anyway.

Adam

I suspect anything using more than 1.5w/GH is turning of at this point.

[RoadStress]

I suspect anything using more than 1.5w/GH is turning of at this point.

At this point I have turned off my Jupiters. Still thinking if I should put then on solo mine or not.

[wh00per]

I am not sure they will continue to mine.  It is more profitable to switch off older equipment and buy bitcoin than spend electricity at loss making J/BTC cost basis.

Its normal at any given time that people will be switching off previous gen equipment as newer more electrically efficient equipment pushes old hardware below electrical breakeven with sunk cost economics (ie even losing money based on electrical cost, ignoring purchase cost).

Same thing happened to CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs... now its the turn of old gen ASICs.

Once they adapt difficulty will flatten or even fall, sell pressure will relieve and price will rise.  Flatter difficulty will help also because it extends equipment life-time which makes planning easier.

Thats what I think anyway.

Adam

IMHO buying bitcoin is not as profitable as it was. With the bitcoin price going down every week, I don't see why one would invest any money in BTC. That's a guaranteed loss.
However, if you are an early adopter and you mined them below the current price or if you own already some of them .. it's fun to trade and use them while they sell well.

btw, I still have some 20+ erupters powered up, and a BFL FPGA the GPUs which were once 10% of the LTC network are still hashing can't think of a reason to power them down. I use more electricity when I flush the toilet LOL

I suspect anything using more than 1.5w/GH is turning of at this point.

At this point I have turned off my Jupiters. Still thinking if I should put then on solo mine or not.

Put them on altcoins The PPC network is still in need of your jupiters. Or give them to someone with free power. Dump them in the local McDonalds "server" room .. and let them have the coins for donations.

[ukzerosniper]

Do any documents explain what all the info under the ASIC Stats page means?

I saw in the manual that 2 columns are detailed for the temps and which ASICS they are.  However, what do the colours mean?  Also, I seem temps in white that are all random numbers, what do they signify?

Thanks.

[Soros Shorts]

So I got the email telling me to urgently upgrade to 2.4.20. My SP30s are running fine but they are located a 2-hour drive away. Should I upgrade now remotely, or is it better for me to be there physically before I do the upgrade? They are locked and the DC people cannot enter my cage/cabinet.

I also have one set at 960W/960W running from a single 120V/20A circuit (because that is all the amps I have left). Is there a chance that the upgrade will revert to 1100W/1100W and trip the breaker?

[Eguinn]

I updated mine and they restarted at 1330W, I'm at 240V,  My cores 0 1 2 15 16 17 did not work before or after the update, they have not worked since I received the unit 4 days ago. Running at 4000 gh but stable. They told me to do a 30 second power down after the update.

[ShopemNL]

When will october batch be shipped?

[RoadStress]

Do any documents explain what all the info under the ASIC Stats page means?

I saw in the manual that 2 columns are detailed for the temps and which ASICS they are.  However, what do the colours mean?  Also, I seem temps in white that are all random numbers, what do they signify?

Thanks.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14512213-asic-stats

About the colors I think <85 degrees=white, 85-1XX(can't remember) yellow and higher than 1XX is red. Unless you have high temps on all chips you shouldn't worry about the colors. The FW auto-tunes the hot chips.

[bobsmoke]

So I got the email telling me to urgently upgrade to 2.4.20. My SP30s are running fine but they are located a 2-hour drive away. Should I upgrade now remotely, or is it better for me to be there physically before I do the upgrade? They are locked and the DC people cannot enter my cage/cabinet.

I also have one set at 960W/960W running from a single 120V/20A circuit (because that is all the amps I have left). Is there a chance that the upgrade will revert to 1100W/1100W and trip the breaker?

I upgraded all my units to 2.4.20. Maybe I got lucky but I didn't need remote hands ... however when you upgrade there is a warning that states you might need to do a hard power off, or even restore the machine. Might be better prepared for such case.

In addition to that, it looks like 2.4.20 changes something that is well received by the Pool ... I was surprised to see the following:
Total average hash rate in last 60 minutes: 9400.916 Ghash/s ... however both units report ~4.48Th/s

[Tigggger]

zvi,

Given the fall in the btc and high electric rates here I've changed my UK machines to "slow fans, medium rate"

SP10:
Before 1425GH / 1280W = 0.8982 w/GH
After 1160GH / 880W = 0.7586 w/GH

SP30:
Before: 4500GH / 2900W = 0.6444 w/GH
After: 4050GH / 2420W = 0.5975 w/GH

Those have made a significant difference making the SP10 in particular profitable to run again (just).  I was wondering if you could work your magic and have a best effeciency setting that automatically tunes the machine to achieve the best w/GH possible as that's the most important thing at the moment rather than outright speed.

[Guy Corem]

zvi,

Given the fall in the btc and high electric rates here I've changed my UK machines to "slow fans, medium rate"

SP10:
Before 1425GH / 1280W = 0.8982 w/GH
After 1160GH / 880W = 0.7586 w/GH

SP30:
Before: 4500GH / 2900W = 0.6444 w/GH
After: 4050GH / 2420W = 0.5975 w/GH

Those have made a significant difference making the SP10 in particular profitable to run again (just).  I was wondering if you could work your magic and have a best effeciency setting that automatically tunes the machine to achieve the best w/GH possible as that's the most important thing at the moment rather than outright speed.

That's an excellent suggestion. Zvi is on holiday for the next 2 weeks, I will ask him to take a look at it as soon as he is back.

Gadi

[BitcoinPappi]

The latest that I am on is 2.4.20 . Nothing else comes back for SP when I try to upgrade

My bad, you are right the version is 2.4.20

Cool Talked too early for me. I have no more errors but it is still not stable. Will have to follow up with SP-Teach tomorrow

Guy,

I have not been able to hash since the machine was delivered on Thursday . Can you please look into this ? I might need RMA

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[Guy Corem]

The latest that I am on is 2.4.20 . Nothing else comes back for SP when I try to upgrade

My bad, you are right the version is 2.4.20

Cool Talked too early for me. I have no more errors but it is still not stable. Will have to follow up with SP-Teach tomorrow

Guy,

I have not been able to hash since the machine was delivered on Thursday . Can you please look into this ? I might need RMA

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Please contact support@. Please be patient, due to Zvisha's vacation Remo has double the workload.

Guy

[wh00per]

What would be the way to connect to a SP30 unit via serial port ? Did anyone do that ?

On the other hand, spondoolies-tech.com looks down ..  right in the middle of my update to "spon_2.4.21.tar" ..
After reboot .. it looks that I can't connect to the machine anymore (no ssh, no ftp, no http) funny times.

The orange led blinks 6 times ..  and it waits there .. A network scan does not show me its ip address as being alive  .. really funny.



Later Edit: **** I needed to restart the unit maybe 15 times, it eventually started up right.

The update to Firmware 2.4.21 scrambled the CGMiner "Summary" API call and now all the reported hashrate averages in MH/s are about 0.9TH/s.
See your http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/monitor.php for the MHs numbers. Can be easy tested with http miner access. looks like the culprit is the NEW CGMINER 4.6.0 which comes with the update.

Also, my impression s that it forces the ASICS to run hotter (most of them are now at about 110 deg C, on the asics page).
The LOOP 9 and other issues now ((Asic all engines fail BIST) && LOOP[9] OFF (test serial failed or something)) are still present.

Code:

Uptime:11 | FPGA ver:32
-----BOARD-0-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 368->430w[328 320 424] (->468w[364 359 468]) (lim=1340) 0c cooling:0/0x0
-----BOARD-1-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 272->364w[244 240 364] (->404w[270 270 404]) (lim=1295) 0c cooling:0/0x0
LOOP[0] ON
0: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
 1: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 25W  42A  33c] ASIC:[ 85c  380hz(BL:1045)   25 (E:131) F:0]
 2: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:597 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 23W  38A  31c] ASIC:[ 85c  350hz(BL: 350)   14 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[1] ON
 3: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 25W  41A  35c] ASIC:[ 85c  380hz(BL:1045)   15 (E:139) F:0]
 4: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:597 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 22W  37A  38c] ASIC:[ 85c  350hz(BL: 350)   21 (E:193) F:0]
5: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
LOOP[2] ON
 6: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:593 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 24W  40A  39c] ASIC:[ 85c  380hz(BL:1045)   12 (E:127) F:0]
 7: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 25W  42A  39c] ASIC:[ 85c  380hz(BL: 380)   18 (E:193) F:0]
 8: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 24W  40A  32c] ASIC:[ 85c  355hz(BL: 355)   18 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[3] ON
 9: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 26W  44A  39c] ASIC:[ 85c  385hz(BL: 385)   23 (E:193) F:0]
10: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:597 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 26W  44A  42c] ASIC:[ 85c  390hz(BL: 390)   22 (E:193) F:0]
11: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
LOOP[4] ON
12: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:593 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 23W  39A  43c] ASIC:[ 85c  380hz(BL: 380)   24 (E:193) F:0]
13: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
14: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:597 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 23W  38A  35c] ASIC:[ 85c  360hz(BL: 360)   28 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[5] ON
15: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 23W  39A  34c] ASIC:[ 85c  350hz(BL: 350)   18 (E:191) F:0]
17: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
LOOP[6] ON
18: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:597 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 23W  38A  36c] ASIC:[ 85c  350hz(BL: 350)   19 (E:193) F:0]
19: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:597 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 22W  37A  38c] ASIC:[ 85c  350hz(BL: 350)   15 (E:193) F:0]
20: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:599 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 22W  38A  37c] ASIC:[ 85c  350hz(BL: 350)    9 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[7] ON
21: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 26W  43A  41c] ASIC:[ 85c  385hz(BL: 385)   17 (E:193) F:0]
22: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 22W  37A  41c] ASIC:[ 85c  355hz(BL: 355)   26 (E:193) F:0]
23: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
LOOP[8] ON
24: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
25: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 23W  38A  41c] ASIC:[ 85c  355hz(BL: 355)   19 (E:193) F:0]
26: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:595 vlt2:600(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 30W  50A  43c] ASIC:[ 85c  440hz(BL: 440)   14 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[9] OFF (test serial failed or something)
27: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
28: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)
29: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST)

[H:HW:1355Gh,W:464,L:0,A:19,MMtmp:0 TMP:(25)=>=>=>(41,35)]
Pushed 27 jobs , in HW queue 4 jobs (sw:1, hw:1)!
min:32 wins:495[this/last min:30/460] bist-fail:1188, hw-err:8
leading-zeroes:41 idle promils[s/m]:0/83, rate:16078gh/s asic-count:16
Fan:70, conseq:200
AC2DC BAD: 0 0
R/NR: 91/0
RTF asics: 0
 20 restarted      0 reset          0 reset2         0 fake_wins
 0 stuck_bist     0 low_power      0 stuck_pll      0 runtime_dsble
 0 purge_queue    2 read_timeouts  0 dc2dc_oc       30 read_tmout2    0 read_crptn
 0 purge_queue3   0 bad_idle
Adapter queues: rsp=1, req=22

TOP:1 BOTTOM:1

PSU[EMERSON1200]: 368->430w[328 320 424] (->468w[364 359 468]) (lim=1340) 0c cooling:0/0x0
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 272->364w[244 240 364] (->404w[270 270 404]) (lim=1295) 0c cooling:0/0x0

[H:HW:1355Gh,W:464,L:0,A:19,MMtmp:0 TMP:(25)=>=>=>(41,35)]

http://powerprice.info/SPT/graphic.php

[boscocoin]

Hi Guys,

From the 3 machines I ordered from Spondoolies.. 2 of them are working and one of them doesn't so they've requested to get it sent back to them. I will be loosing out on hashing and paying for shipping the miner back. Is this something spondoolie will compensate for? I did recieve the 3 units pretty late too.. I got them on the 2nd of October when they said it would come in mid-September..

Anyhow I have been mining with the other two machines and have noticed only getting like $10 to $15 per day max combined together for mining with Slush.. Is this usual or should I change to BTC Guild?

Sorry I'm new to mining.. I was expecting these machines could produce upto $50 dollars per day minimum for each machine.

[PatMan]

Miners don't produce $'s - they mine BTC. The BTC rate per $ is very low atm. It can go up or down.