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I can bet you it won't be a 16nm. the article has typo some times it reads 16nm other times it reads 14nm they have been bragging about the new chip since sept. 2014. I also think based on everything I have seen the 14/16nm chip will not go from .7w to .07w . I think they are bs ing a whole lot saying they can do a 10x improvement . they will be lucky to get to .5w or .4w . but what do I know. Now if they build a solid .4 watt miner and no one else has one doing better then .6w they will have a decent edge over everyone until others make good a good .4w miner.
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So you are saying four connectors pulling 300watts per for the sp20 is the the issue ?
I don't see how that could be the issue I think its either an issue with the firmware or the Asics themselves.
If a sp31 does 4.8 - 5 TH using the same chips at 2800 watts.
A sp20 should be able to do at least 1.8 TH using 1200 watts of power unless something is seriously goofed, since it is the same silicon basically.
If you are right and it is an issue of Maybe it is an issue of the SP20 needing to be able to pull a bit more juice say 330watts vs 300 thats a different issue I guess.
Either way 1650 TH is not good for 1200 Watts and that is what the majority of folks are seeing. I'm leaning to maybe canceling my order if this is something set in stone.
Yes I think they did a design flaw since most current/watts sent on 4 connectors = 4 x 288 or 1152 watts. that is the max rating. so when you try to send 1200 watts over a 1152 rated connection you waste power. I In my case I do not care about this issue since I plan to use 250 setting not the 288 setting. but any one wanting to send 288 or more is just wasting money. I would love to see clear testing from some one that used an evga 1300 or an evga 1600 set at watts of 225 to 250. I am pretty sure those will be the best watt to gh settings. I am going to have a lot of fun with this gear in the underclock undervolt world should be fun for me. but if you are an oc dude/dudette this may be bad gear. I will be posting that info shortly, including evga 1200, 1600 as well as a few others.... I will also post my evga g2 1300 and my evga p2 1600 when I get the sp20 My opinion is this 250 watts should be your max setting and underclocking should be what you want to do. Basically due to the 4 jack setup since the jacks rate at 288/300 watts and you want a margin of safety so 250 should be ideal. maybe 225 or 240 but I do not know if 225 or 240 can be set. This is strictly based on the rating for those jacks and for evga 1300/1600 wires . I will be happy with 1000 watts and 1400 hash you have to be kidding me 1.4 TH at 1000 watts is a joke. you get better performance out of an sp10. Why even buy the unit if that is your target.
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November 19, 2014, 05:04:47 AM |
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The thing that bothers me with any KnC claims is the fact they said they are not going to sell miners anymore so they can claim any numbers they want and reviewers like Me and Dogie will not get our hands on the to fact check. Any business they sell to will most likely be under an NDA so it will be hard to verify for sure. I have an interview with Guy from Spondoolies going live tomorrow. No matter what the others do SP-Tech is not stopping. Pretty cool actually to see so many companies doing well and working hard for improvements. Guy impressed me a lot when I met him in person. I can bet you it won't be a 16nm. the article has typo some times it reads 16nm other times it reads 14nm they have been bragging about the new chip since sept. 2014. I also think based on everything I have seen the 14/16nm chip will not go from .7w to .07w . I think they are bs ing a whole lot saying they can do a 10x improvement . they will be lucky to get to .5w or .4w . but what do I know. Now if they build a solid .4 watt miner and no one else has one doing better then .6w they will have a decent edge over everyone until others make good a good .4w miner.
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Some comments on https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-118: - When you don't intend to ship anything, you can come out with whatever FUD numbers you want - 16ff+ will be ready for mass production in Q3 - 0.07 J/GH is nothing special on 16ff+. It's achievable even on 28, if you employ extreme non standard design techniques (which I won't get into) and under-volt the ASIC considerably. The real questions are what will be the GHs/mm^2 (hashing silicon density) and $/GHs (total system cost) when achieving it. Guy
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November 19, 2014, 05:33:14 AM |
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So you are saying four connectors pulling 300watts per for the sp20 is the the issue ?
I don't see how that could be the issue I think its either an issue with the firmware or the Asics themselves.
If a sp31 does 4.8 - 5 TH using the same chips at 2800 watts.
A sp20 should be able to do at least 1.8 TH using 1200 watts of power unless something is seriously goofed, since it is the same silicon basically.
If you are right and it is an issue of Maybe it is an issue of the SP20 needing to be able to pull a bit more juice say 330watts vs 300 thats a different issue I guess.
Either way 1650 TH is not good for 1200 Watts and that is what the majority of folks are seeing. I'm leaning to maybe canceling my order if this is something set in stone.
Yes I think they did a design flaw since most current/watts sent on 4 connectors = 4 x 288 or 1152 watts. that is the max rating. so when you try to send 1200 watts over a 1152 rated connection you waste power. I In my case I do not care about this issue since I plan to use 250 setting not the 288 setting. but any one wanting to send 288 or more is just wasting money. I would love to see clear testing from some one that used an evga 1300 or an evga 1600 set at watts of 225 to 250. I am pretty sure those will be the best watt to gh settings. I am going to have a lot of fun with this gear in the underclock undervolt world should be fun for me. but if you are an oc dude/dudette this may be bad gear. I will be posting that info shortly, including evga 1200, 1600 as well as a few others.... I will also post my evga g2 1300 and my evga p2 1600 when I get the sp20 My opinion is this 250 watts should be your max setting and underclocking should be what you want to do. Basically due to the 4 jack setup since the jacks rate at 288/300 watts and you want a margin of safety so 250 should be ideal. maybe 225 or 240 but I do not know if 225 or 240 can be set. This is strictly based on the rating for those jacks and for evga 1300/1600 wires . I will be happy with 1000 watts and 1400 hash you have to be kidding me 1.4 TH at 1000 watts is a joke. you get better performance out of an sp10. Why even buy the unit if that is your target. 1000/1400 = 0.714 watts max rating for this unit is 1152/1700 = 0.677 watts I am okay with 0.714 vs 0.677 watts . frankly I did not expect them to make spec as almost no one make spec. but the price drop down to 795 sold me. As long as they are pretty quick with shipping I am fine.
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November 19, 2014, 05:33:48 AM |
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So are the SP20's shipping today the 18th or the 26th now?
Due to the huge demand, some of the miners will be shipped late. We'll compensate for the diff from later of the (18th, day of payment received) until the day of actually shipping. Guy
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November 19, 2014, 05:50:54 AM |
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So are the SP20's shipping today the 18th or the 26th now?
Due to the huge demand, some of the miners will be shipped late. We'll compensate for the diff from later of the (18th, day of payment received) until the day of actually shipping. Guy thanks at a rate of : 1400gh = 0.01747 a day 1500gh = 0.01872 a day 1600gh = 0.01997 a day 1700gh = 0.02121 a day I used https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyI purchased early around the 12th so my clock starts on the 18th it is now the 19th so 1 day so far.
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November 19, 2014, 05:52:55 AM |
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So are the SP20's shipping today the 18th or the 26th now?
Due to the huge demand, some of the miners will be shipped late. We'll compensate for the diff from later of the (18th, day of payment received) until the day of actually shipping. Guy thanks at a rate of : 1400gh = 0.01747 a day 1500gh = 0.01872 a day 1600gh = 0.01997 a day 1700gh = 0.02121 a day I used https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyI purchased early around the 12th so my clock starts on the 18th it is now the 19th so 1 day so far. 0.02125 BTC per day
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November 19, 2014, 06:02:03 AM |
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So are the SP20's shipping today the 18th or the 26th now?
Due to the huge demand, some of the miners will be shipped late. We'll compensate for the diff from later of the (18th, day of payment received) until the day of actually shipping. Guy Thank you Guy! Top notch support to do this. You guys had me wanting to buy a SP gear since the Chicago BTC conference. Looking forward to getting to us a SP made hardware.
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November 19, 2014, 06:15:53 AM |
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So are the SP20's shipping today the 18th or the 26th now?
Due to the huge demand, some of the miners will be shipped late. We'll compensate for the diff from later of the (18th, day of payment received) until the day of actually shipping. Guy Thank you Guy! Top notch support to do this. You guys had me wanting to buy a SP gear since the Chicago BTC conference. Looking forward to getting to us a SP made hardware. Spondoolies-Tech did ok with compensation last batch. I'm not worried.
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November 19, 2014, 10:30:26 AM |
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Hi Guys, We have a heap of SP30 miners, all working pretty great thanks. Tonight one miner shows an error on the ASIC page disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST) I have restarted miner gate, this doesn't make any difference I have disabled and enabled in the Settings > ASICS Control Panel, this also makes no difference I have rebooted the miner at the mains, this again makes no difference. Yesterday I upgraded all miners to version 2.5.12. The settings on this miner are as follows Fan Speed 80 Start Volts Top 0.64 Start Volts Bottom 0.64 Max Volts 0.79 Max PSU Top 1360 Max PSU Bottom 1360 Temp Front / Back T,B 16c / 52,53c Socket Voltage 222/221 volt Any assistance would be gratefully received. Thanks Guys
What is the effect on the hash rate of the unit, and what ASIC (number) is that?
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November 19, 2014, 11:49:46 AM |
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please help, i'm very new to mining and not very computer literate. i have sp10 dawson. i have windows. I DOWNLOADED bfgminer and dhcp online. When i plug in miner i go to network, right click, then to properties. I have tried going to "change adapter settings", then right clicking local area connection and clicking on properties. Then highlight internet protocol version 6, click on properties button. Not really sure what to do from here or if i'm even close. Is dhcp working? or Should the sp10 be showing up in network connections?
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November 19, 2014, 11:52:26 AM |
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please help, i'm very new to mining and not very computer literate. i have sp10 dawson. i have windows. I DOWNLOADED bfgminer and dhcp online. When i plug in miner i go to network, right click, then to properties. I have tried going to "change adapter settings", then right clicking local area connection and clicking on properties. Then highlight internet protocol version 6, click on properties button. Not really sure what to do from here or if i'm even close. Is dhcp working? or Should the sp10 be showing up in network connections?
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November 19, 2014, 12:29:35 PM |
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Hi All We have now new support team. You can see them online as spond.support.1 (Sonya) and spond.support.2 (Michael). They accept direct Skype calls between 14:00-16:00 and 19:00-21:00 Israel time.You can also send mail like always, to support@spondoolies-tech.com. If they can not help, they will redirect you to me.
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November 19, 2014, 02:36:57 PM |
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So are the SP20's shipping today the 18th or the 26th now?
Due to the huge demand, some of the miners will be shipped late. We'll compensate for the diff from later of the (18th, day of payment received) until the day of actually shipping. Guy thanks at a rate of : 1400gh = 0.01747 a day 1500gh = 0.01872 a day 1600gh = 0.01997 a day 1700gh = 0.02121 a day I used https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyI purchased early around the 12th so my clock starts on the 18th it is now the 19th so 1 day so far. 0.02125 BTC per day that looks better then my numbers thanks.
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November 19, 2014, 09:28:05 PM |
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please help, i'm very new to mining and not very computer literate. i have sp10 dawson. i have windows. I DOWNLOADED bfgminer and dhcp online. When i plug in miner i go to network, right click, then to properties. I have tried going to "change adapter settings", then right clicking local area connection and clicking on properties. Then highlight internet protocol version 6, click on properties button. Not really sure what to do from here or if i'm even close. Is dhcp working? or Should the sp10 be showing up in network connections?
www.myminer.ioI had tried this and i logged in one time. i was able to change the password. Somehow i logged out and i dont know what my username is? I did not see my username anywhere on the page. I remember the password, but I can not log back in now.
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November 19, 2014, 09:37:14 PM |
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is there anyway to find my username? is there anyway to get back to the first login where admin/admin works?
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November 19, 2014, 09:40:56 PM |
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is there anyway to find my username? is there anyway to get back to the first login where admin/admin works?
username is admin www.myminer.io and click the bit that says 'go to miner' ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 19, 2014, 10:38:18 PM |
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lol thank you so much!
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