Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

For those who are waiting for the Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall rematch, it is reported that the fight is going to be rescheduled again,

Promoter Bob Arum has confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Taylor and Catterall will not fight February 4, as planned. Their second fight for Taylor’s WBO junior welterweight title will instead take place either later in February or at some point in March.

https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-catterall-rematch-pushed-back-from-february-4-date-tbd-february-march--170949

There's a lot of speculation as why the fight is going to be resched again, someone commented to give time for Taylor to make weight hehehe. But it could be true, maybe Taylor's body is having difficult time to make 140 lbs anymore and it could be one factor that he almost lost to Jack the first time.

Yes, why it is postponed again, it's weird that it is the second time, is Taylor injured or need more time to prepare?

If that is the case then, he is not ready and might lost to Jack, and that 140 lbs weight, yeah, possible that he can't made it anymore, maybe his body can't squeeze and it was already suspect the same issue during their first fight that's why he narrowly win their fight.

So let's see if they will finally have the match late february or early march, might be good to bet on the underdog?

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[Baofeng]

Again, for the Teo "The Takeover" Lopez fans out there, here is their official weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8v2_YQ3GIs

Martin though looks out of shape, not the boxer shape that we all expecting in a weigh in buy hey it's a very effective method for him and could be deceiving in opponent because it might give them the impression that this fighter is not tough. But we have seen what he did to Mickey Garcia.

As for Lopez, he looks very sharp the usual and I think this is going to be a very good fight to watch but Lopez edging Martin in the latter rounds or it could be a decision win for Teo here.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Lol, why this thread suddenly turns into Manny Pacquiao meme? the knock out win of Marquez is already years ago?

There are good fight this weekend regarding Prograis and Zepeda, two hungry fighters who want to get the belt at 140 lbs. And so for the meantime, it might be a "relieve fight" from the failed Spence vs Crawford fight as this could really be a war.

Well, that Pacquiao fight lying there is something that doesn't look very good, with respect to what you say about Crawford vs. Spence, do you think that if Crawford wins his previous fight but Spence loses, do you think this match can take place? If so, do you think Crawford will look for him again? because it's not to speculate too much, but I think Crawford did everything possible to have his fight against Spence, sometimes I don't understand what Spence wants, I sometimes don't see what he's really looking for, Crawford's yes It's clear to me, it's obvious that he wants a rematch at any rate, and I want that to happen quickly.

Money wise, Haney should take this fight instead of moving up. I mean, knowing how fans are eager to see Loma challenging the belt holder, for sure it can easily be sold to all those fans who are waiting for this fight to take place. Though it's still Haney's camp to decide whether to negotiate and sign this mandatory fight or to move up and find another alternative to avoid fighting.

It is a wise decision to fight Loma first before moving up.  I bet Haney's camp is considering the money flow options since fighting Loma will definitely cater lots of audiences, it may possibly be one of the best selling PPV that year because their fight has long been awaited by fans and spectators.

All will be decided when both camps signed the deal and the promoters start to market the fight between these two top fighters.

I do hope that Haney will give Loma a chance to have a shot on the title before Haney consider to move up in division. And it would be a shame and a lost of huge money if Haney decided to move up just to evade Lomachenco.

well Haney is not a total fighter, he knows what he has to do, he has to be 100% of everything to be able to have a good fight against Loma, also, this fight would draw the attention not only of the most fans but of practically everyone The bettors will be delirious with this match so good and so gratifying, for me it will be one of the best if it happens, obviously I think that I would go for Hanney here because he has much more experience and I think he could know how to handle the situation, for me It is something that has a lot to do with what Hanney wants to show here, Loma is an opportunity that he also has to show that he is here to stay.

[lionheart78]

Lol, why this thread suddenly turns into Manny Pacquiao meme? the knock out win of Marquez is already years ago?

There are good fight this weekend regarding Prograis and Zepeda, two hungry fighters who want to get the belt at 140 lbs. And so for the meantime, it might be a "relieve fight" from the failed Spence vs Crawford fight as this could really be a war.

Well, that Pacquiao fight lying there is something that doesn't look very good,

That was the first time Manny was knocked out cold.  It is a perfect timing for Marquez and a great way to supposedly extend the fight for quintology but then Marquez just doesn't want to extend the series anymore.  Manny was actually leading that fight and Marquez's nose is possibly broken in that fight.  But well that is a good way to put a period in a great tetralogy of the Pacquiao-Marquez fight.

with respect to what you say about Crawford vs. Spence, do you think that if Crawford wins his previous fight but Spence loses, do you think this match can take place? If so, do you think Crawford will look for him again? because it's not to speculate too much, but I think Crawford did everything possible to have his fight against Spence, sometimes I don't understand what Spence wants, I sometimes don't see what he's really looking for, Crawford's yes It's clear to me, it's obvious that he wants a rematch at any rate, and I want that to happen quickly.

If one of these two boxers losses, I think Crawford vs. Spence will not happen instead the one who wins will replace the place of the loser in that possible unification welterweight title bout. They need to keep the adrenaline high, and continuing the Crawford VS Spence idea when one of them had lost to their opponent will not be that excited anymore.

[Getmon]

Bitcointalk boxing enthusiasts, here are the events for this week. After tomorrow's match between France and England, it's good to see some brawls.

Josh Warrington to lose the belt to Luis Alberto Lopez.

It is challenging to oppose Terrence Crawford. His first fight since leaving Top Rank is this one. Avanesyan will be utterly destroyed by Terrence in the middle rounds. 

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

[Kemarit]

^^ Looking at the odds of Warrington vs Lopez, it seems that they are very close, 1.77 for Josh and then Luis at 2.02.

So yeah, why not? possible that there could be an upset in this fight. As for the Teo Lopez vs Martin, I think that Lopez will beat Martin but it could be a war as Martin is very tough fighter.

For Crawford vs Avanesyan, not seeing any upset, Bud will figure out David maybe in the next 2-3 round and then adjust and win maybe by stoppage late in the rounds.

[mirakal]

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

[Fredomago]

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.

[Baofeng]

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

Yes, probably another tune up fight for Teo Lopez because he has two successive fights this year with just short rest in between. But nevertheless, he might be looking at an easy opponent but still he should take it lightly as Martin is a rough opponent but we will see how Lopez will respond to this tough opponent of his.

I think he need more fight in 140 lbs early next year and maybe after he won that fight he will be given the chance to fight one of the champions, like Prograis or even Josh Taylor (if Josh chooses to stay at 140 lbs).

[YuginKadoya]

Maybe it's the ring rust and of course, his mindset isn't 100% due to the war. Also, Vassily Lomachenko is already in his mid-30s, his IQ is still there but his physical abilities is starting to decline and he isn't the guy that has 1 punch KO that scares opponents. Maybe Loma is saving some of his techniques so Haney cannot figure it out. Haney won't duck Loma because it is the WBO mandatory unless he is moving up in weight which might be an option since he did struggle in weight during his rematch with Kambosos. 

Well, I really think Vasiliy Lomachenko is preparing something and not really showing what he can truly do inside the ring, for now, I want to think that before he can face Devin Haney first, maybe he is keeping his trump card intact, but it could also be ring rust, but for further analysis as for now I really don't want to think it that way, yes Lomachenko doesn't have the 1 punch KO his opponent but the speed and volume can be his lethal weapon, but in his recent fight I really don't see the quickness or is he suppressing it but for me, he can surely still show more than speed on his last fight,

That might be the case but I don't really think that there is a point for him to hide his strength or power right now as he is looking for more future fights. Hiding his power will give him less opportunities because people won't hype him that much because they will think that Loma's already an old news and there's nothing to expect from him anymore.

It will be much better for him to show what he is made of really because that will send a message and people will start calling a fight with the heavy names in the same division as Loma's like Haney or Tank or the nearest belt contender to replace them. Just maybe though, maybe he is not the Loma we've known now.

Well, I am just thinking out of the box here like I said he is not really suppressing his strength but just not showing his trump card, and until he can fight Devin Haney or some fighter that needs to be using it he will likely be using it aswell, well for me Devin Haney was his real target and yeah I want to think that he is hiding his trump card for the time being, but it could also be ring rust, and right now maybe it is catching up to him and yeah he is really feeling it right now,


Right now the fight with Manny Pacquiao is nearing to start, and we all know what may happen to DK Yoo after this fight I really don't think Manny Pacquiao could lose this either, and Ryan Garcia's brother is also fighting in this event Sean "Sugar Rush" Garcia is fighting 1st, he also got a picture of him with Manny Pacquiao and thankful that he is on the same card as the Legend, for me I think this is interesting but I don't really want to compare him to his brother but Sean Garcia might become a great fighter aswell,

[btc_angela]

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.

[Baofeng]

There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.

The undefeated WBA/WBC/IBF welterweight champion was the victim in a two-vehicle accident Saturday evening at an undisclosed location in the greater Dallas area. Spence’s SUV was hit head-on by an underage and unlicensed driver who ran a red light. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.

[Jawhead999]

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.

The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

[YuginKadoya]

Wow! nobody is talking about the Pacquiao vs. Yoo fight but whatever it is just an exhibition match anyway, but what I am after was the Sean Garcia fight, that is what I want to see,

Manny Pacquiao VS DK Yoo - Manny Pacquiao Won via unanimous decision

Well, I was really not surprised that Manny Pacquaio won this, I already know that DK Yoo doesn't have any experience in a real boxing fight, even though he has experience in street brawl kung-fu style there is a huge difference between boxing and you are limited in just using your fist, for MMA VS Boxing in boxing ruled, match there will be a huge advantage for a boxer when they fight in a boxing rule format fight well as expected all rounds go to Manny Pacquiao and we all know that DK Yoo is gassing out and just prolonging the time while Manny Pacquiao is having a great time here for him this is easy money,

Sean Garcia VS Seung Ho Yang Seung Ho Yang  Won via majority decision

You heard it right as you can see Garcia's opponent thought this was MMA clinching and dragging him well that momentum of Garcia was all lost to the drain because of it, surely Seung Ho Yang does have a movement I have seen that Sean Garcia was doing great in the opening rounds, but that momentum was lost, well you can hear the commentators are mostly biased towards Sean Garcia but the Judges scored a biased majority win over to Seung Ho Yang, is it a robbery? I haven't seen the full fight yet, and I didn't watch the live stream,

[Kemarit]

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.

The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

Yeah, it seems that Lopez is too eager in the early rounds and that's why Martin scored a flash knockdown. Lopez though complain that he is frustrated because Martin chooses to run in this fight and that he keeps on chasing him.

Nevertheless it was a split decision only win for Lopez, and not majority. But still a win is a win for him.

No robbery though, it's that Martin didn't do enough to win on the other 2 judges.

[Jating]

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.

The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

I agree that Lopez wanted to fight from the distance because he is a tough dude and that is the mistake that Mickey did make when he lost to Martin. He thought that he can just used his power against Martin, but it was the other way around as Martin is solid.

Yes, the punch output of Lopez is enough for him to win in the cards of the judges. And he is the A-side in this fight, when the fight is close, maybe the judges gave it to Lopez that's why the two judges have him winning with a good lead.

[Fredomago]

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.

The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

I agree that Lopez wanted to fight from the distance because he is a tough dude and that is the mistake that Mickey did make when he lost to Martin. He thought that he can just used his power against Martin, but it was the other way around as Martin is solid.

Yes, the punch output of Lopez is enough for him to win in the cards of the judges. And he is the A-side in this fight, when the fight is close, maybe the judges gave it to Lopez that's why the two judges have him winning with a good lead.

Well, he's back and for sure promoters will bring his name on the list, another good chance for him to make more money fight, Lopez strategy gives him that credit to win, those numbers of converted punches and like what you have said judges gives him the credit and with that decision the announcer state his name as the winner on this fight.

Congrats to all who won their bet whatever types of betting they prefer in this fight, enjoy the weekends parties!

[mirakal]

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.

I guess you're right about that. I was just wondering that he already got a fight with just a few months rest and he's already defending his WBO International belt that he won in competition against Pedro Campa. Anyway, I figured out that he isn't that really ready to face the champions he still need another fight to get him ready against Prograis or Taylor but still a good win, he almost messed it up when he was knocked down in round 2.

[Vaculin]

There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.

The undefeated WBA/WBC/IBF welterweight champion was the victim in a two-vehicle accident Saturday evening at an undisclosed location in the greater Dallas area. Spence’s SUV was hit head-on by an underage and unlicensed driver who ran a red light.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.

Not the 2nd time, this is his 3rd car crash.

I don't know what's with Errol Spence Jr. but it seems to me that he is a magnet to streets when it comes to accidents and for that, he should ought to have a personal driver to drive him whenever he wanted to go or to run for his errands. He shouldn't be driving around solo because his talents will go to waste if his legs or arm will be harmed badly. Good thing that he is already safe, but those legs tho, he's saying that it hurts badly.

[Baofeng]

There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.

The undefeated WBA/WBC/IBF welterweight champion was the victim in a two-vehicle accident Saturday evening at an undisclosed location in the greater Dallas area. Spence’s SUV was hit head-on by an underage and unlicensed driver who ran a red light.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.

Not the 2nd time, this is his 3rd car crash.

I don't know what's with Errol Spence Jr. but it seems to me that he is a magnet to streets when it comes to accidents and for that, he should ought to have a personal driver to drive him whenever he wanted to go or to run for his errands. He shouldn't be driving around solo because his talents will go to waste if his legs or arm will be harmed badly. Good thing that he is already safe, but those legs tho, he's saying that it hurts badly.

Thanks for the correction, yeah, same question as well, he is like a magnet for any vehicular accident waiting to happen hehehe.

Yeah, that legs is very important to a boxer too, that's how they dance, the move with their legs. Anyone see Manny Pacquiao's massive lower leg? that's where he got his power. So if a boxer doesn't have good legs most likely he can't hold himself and every time someone touches them in the chin they can easily go down.

Hopefully Spence case is different and he can recover his legs from this accident.