BC.Game 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread

[tomahawk9]

heh, what a 9-0 does to a mf 



now i want him to score a hat-trick in the next match and see everyone's reactions on social media. pandemonium

Son is probably biggest mistake to have in the team (fortunatelly shipped him out after first round for Haaland)

another premium having a rough start of the season. I went with Kulu instead of Son because of the tight budget, otherwise, i'd probably be here saying goodbye for good to all the top spots in the our league

Now I was writing all this by memory so don't kill me if I am of by a point somewhere but I am quite sure it is all correct.

100% correct.

And in case anyone wants a full breakdown of how player earn points including pens, saves, bonus points, here's a link https://www.premierleague.com/news/2174909

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[Harkorede]

heh, what a 9-0 does to a mf  



now i want him to score a hat-trick in the next match and see everyone's reactions on social media. pandemonium

Perhaps if Liverpool earn a couple of penalties, but I think it's so much easier for opponents to focus solely on Salah these days and he often doesn't get the needed space to operate, Mane's post effect I'd say.. but with Nunez getting back defenses will have a different problem to handle and Salah will have much more opportunities, but I really might let him go as well, If I can have another consistent player, I'm waiting to be sure of Conte's decision and choices for the long term before opting for Kane or maybe Richarlison, Sterling is starting to provide points and the FPL will also be having a whole lot of other third choice strikers like Isak, Maupay and Anthony so decision making can only get tougher with time and tons of options.

[Trofo]

heh, what a 9-0 does to a mf 



now i want him to score a hat-trick in the next match and see everyone's reactions on social media. pandemonium

That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls. You had to be borderline crazy to get rid of Liverpool assets before Bournemouth game. I did not expect 9:0 but clean sheet and result like 4:0 were almost sure thing.

Goals and assists are partly luck, Salah had couple of great chances in that game and they did not go in. On another day he would have scored 2 or 3 goals. That goal against United he scored had much smaller xG than any of these chances and that one went in.

[arallmuus]

That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls.

So is this actually a better 'strategy' to play this game though for longer term? Removing the non performing players of the week then bring in some top players from last week to haul up few points before ended up bringing in some other players that performs better? or is it just better to keep your points and keep up the potential players?

[Harkorede]

That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls.

So is this actually a better 'strategy' to play this game though for longer term? Removing the non performing players of the week then bring in some top players from last week to haul up few points before ended up bringing in some other players that performs better? or is it just better to keep your points and keep up the potential players?

It's actually harder than just leaving the non performing players for a long term play, because you have to think of the budgets too, if you end up getting short on budget, you'll not be able get certain players after some game weeks, even if you could afford them when the league started, it's very rare to have an all round non-performing players for several weeks, but some are worth having than the others.

It's always about luck sometimes, but taking a calculated risk too increases your chances against every opponent, I really didn't like Salah as my captain for the just concluded week and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

To win in the pool I believe every strategy actually matters from knowing when to be conservative and not chasing points blindly when you've got everything to lose, to knowing what your other opponents are likely to go for then you think of alternatives that could be logically better and when you can't think of one, then it's way better to be on the same terms as them until you feel confident about a player(your pick) over theirs, especially based of form and fixtures, it's easier to draw such conclusion based on logic, I guess, you might not always be right, yes, but in the long run, I believe you will stand a better chance.

[Trofo]

That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls.

So is this actually a better 'strategy' to play this game though for longer term? Removing the non performing players of the week then bring in some top players from last week to haul up few points before ended up bringing in some other players that performs better? or is it just better to keep your points and keep up the potential players?

It's actually harder than just leaving the non performing players for a long term play, because you have to think of the budgets too, if you end up getting short on budget, you'll not be able get certain players after some game weeks, even if you could afford them when the league started, it's very rare to have an all round non-performing players for several weeks, but some are worth having than the others.

It's always about luck sometimes, but taking a calculated risk too increases your chances against every opponent, I really didn't like Salah as my captain for the just concluded week and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

To win in the pool I believe every strategy actually matters from knowing when to be conservative and not chasing points blindly when you've got everything to lose, to knowing what your other opponents are likely to go for then you think of alternatives that could be logically better and when you can't think of one, then it's way better to be on the same terms as them until you feel confident about a player(your pick) over theirs, especially based of form and fixtures, it's easier to draw such conclusion based on logic, I guess, you might not always be right, yes, but in the long run, I believe you will stand a better chance.

For me, the most important part of Fantasy strategy is selecting players that are dangerous for opponents goal in every single match. It doesn't matter how many points they scored in particular game week, what matters is their constant presence. Luck will sooner or later end up on your side. That is why Trent, Robertson, Cancelo & James are most expensive defenders, they are playing for teams that will get clean sheets often and all of them are really attacking minded and can get assists or goals against even the thoroughest opponents.

That is why Salah will always be better option than Firminho. Salah will play every single game, Firminho will not. Even if Firminho plays, he has what about one shot per target per 90 minutes while Salah has 4-5? Yes last match was a strange one but I am sure Salah will outscore Firminho by heaps of points before season ends.

After that it comes to what Harkorede said about micro tactics which depend a lot about your current goals and positioning in mini league. I am not even bothering with that until last third of the season. For now it is all about maximizing your points and not taking unnecessary transfers/risks.

You should always look at trends for at least 4-5 game weeks. That includes past performances as well as future fixtures. One game means nothing, you have to have larger scope in order to make informed decisions. For instance everybody was buying Cancelo after first 2 GW and now everybody is selling him after 2 blanks and he plays NFO next, WTF? I would rather place triple captain on him then sell him at this point. Same as it was with Trent and Robbo last week and we all know how that ended.

[icopress]

That is why Salah will always be better option than Firminho. Salah will play every single game, Firminho will not. Even if Firminho plays, he has what about one shot per target per 90 minutes while Salah has 4-5? Yes last match was a strange one but I am sure Salah will outscore Firminho by heaps of points before season ends.

I think this is an inappropriate comparison since Firmino will not be in the starting lineup for most of the matches. Speaking of Liverpool... how likely is Nunez to start against Everton? For some reason, it seems to me that Klopp will give him no more than 30 minutes of playing time in this match (before returning him to duty). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Jota should also return at the same time.

[Trofo]

That is why Salah will always be better option than Firminho. Salah will play every single game, Firminho will not. Even if Firminho plays, he has what about one shot per target per 90 minutes while Salah has 4-5? Yes last match was a strange one but I am sure Salah will outscore Firminho by heaps of points before season ends.

I think this is an inappropriate comparison since Firmino will not be in the starting lineup for most of the matches. Speaking of Liverpool... how likely is Nunez to start against Everton? For some reason, it seems to me that Klopp will give him no more than 30 minutes of playing time in this match (before returning him to duty). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Jota should also return at the same time.

Have no idea what Klopp thinks and did not hear anything about it on the press conferences.

If it was me in Klopp shoes he would start and play full 90 if he is good. It is not like he was injured, he is training 100% this whole time and is more than ready for full game. At the same time fatigue is probably troubling Firminho and maybe even Dias, we all know Salah is a machine.

Jota is unknown, he is the one that will probably start with 20 minutes when he gets back and I am very interested to see on which position will he play as Dias owner.

[tomahawk9]

Speaking of Liverpool... how likely is Nunez to start against Everton? For some reason, it seems to me that Klopp will give him no more than 30 minutes of playing time in this match (before returning him to duty). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Jota should also return at the same time.

IMO it depends on who starts tomorrow 🤔 If it's Nunez then it's very likely that Klopp will rotate the squad ahead of the CL game against Napoli so, we could see both Jota and Firmino in the starting XI vs Everton... i believe even Liverpool's B team could beat current everton

[arallmuus]

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and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

So in my case, I should probably go with something out of the box to haul up points to catch up with the others rather than sticking with the conservative ways since Im currently 2nd from the last on the table. Well speaking of this, I actually would have hauled up crazy amount of points if I didnt change my captain to Salah from Haaland

Another bad move every week and now Im a bit below average points again this week

[Harkorede]

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and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

So in my case, I should probably go with something out of the box to haul up points to catch up with the others rather than sticking with the conservative ways since Im currently 2nd from the last on the table. Well speaking of this, I actually would have hauled up crazy amount of points if I didnt change my captain to Salah from Haaland

Another bad move every week and now Im a bit below average points again this week

I wouldn't do anything out of hand If I were, I'll playing catch up but not too aggressively because It's just week 4 of 38, there is more than enough time for everyone to win it all.

Just strategize how you dim fit, getting just about the average of the pool every week will be more than enough and take every decision as a 4 week decision.

[icopress]

Maybe you should think about Julián Álvarez.

Pep Guardiola: "I'll tell you now that when we have games every three days, Erling [Haaland] is not going to play [every game]. Julian [Alvarez] is going to play..."

[arallmuus]

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I wouldn't do anything out of hand If I were, I'll playing catch up but not too aggressively because It's just week 4 of 38, there is more than enough time for everyone to win it all.

Yeah I guess Im pretty happy with my current draft. Adding up perisic last week paid off and Van Djik finally gotten his hands on some points. Few of my Arsenal's players wasnt really getting that many points but they were decent for the last 4 weeks so everything seems pretty decent right now except that if the managers start rolling out rotation for their squad

Just strategize how you dim fit, getting just about the average of the pool every week will be more than enough and take every decision as a 4 week decision.

Gotcha mate

[Trofo]

So what a great bunch of games from Fantasy point of view yesterday. If somebody has more than 5 points he did well 

My latest transfer Dunk also performed admirably and immediately got me a return of -1. Good thing I did not do more transfers after hearing about James not traveling with the squad.

Now waiting for Pep to save my game week and destroy dreams of Haaland captainers.

[tomahawk9]

wth happened to James yesterday? injury? and Koulibaly was my 'free transfer' for this GW, ffs!

next weekend, Chelsea v West Ham, and i'm not getting my hopes up, Chelsea in this bottom-of-the-league form can lose to anyone, what a great time to have chelsea doubles in the FPL, eh? grim

Now waiting for Pep to save my game week and destroy dreams of Haaland captainers.

i'm relying on City and Arsenal today, but i wouldn't mind more upsets tbh, i'd probably prefer that so that everyone stops earning points 

[Trofo]

wth happened to James yesterday? injury? and Koulibaly was my 'free transfer' for this GW, ffs!

next weekend, Chelsea v West Ham, and i'm not getting my hopes up, Chelsea in this bottom-of-the-league form can lose to anyone, what a great time to have chelsea doubles in the FPL, eh? grim

Now waiting for Pep to save my game week and destroy dreams of Haaland captainers.

i'm relying on City and Arsenal today, but i wouldn't mind more upsets tbh, i'd probably prefer that so that everyone stops earning points 

Best I could find about James is that he had some minor illness and did not travel with the team as a precaution. If that is true he should be back for next game. Why would you buy Koulibaly? I don't want Chelsea double up but I am seriously considering Fofana at just 4.4M. Playing Chelsea defender at that price should be a steal as first bench option.

I am hoping City and Haaland flop tonight while Salah punishes disbelievers. Otherwise I'll be bottom of all leagues 

[icopress]

I am hoping City and Haaland flop tonight while Salah punishes disbelievers. Otherwise I'll be bottom of all leagues 

In this case, having Alvarez, I will be on top. 

[tomahawk9]

https://i.imgur.com/BQwEAzP.png

wth happened to James yesterday? injury? and Koulibaly was my 'free transfer' for this GW, ffs!

next weekend, Chelsea v West Ham, and i'm not getting my hopes up, Chelsea in this bottom-of-the-league form can lose to anyone, what a great time to have chelsea doubles in the FPL, eh? grim

Now waiting for Pep to save my game week and destroy dreams of Haaland captainers.

i'm relying on City and Arsenal today, but i wouldn't mind more upsets tbh, i'd probably prefer that so that everyone stops earning points 

Best I could find about James is that he had some minor illness and did not travel with the team as a precaution. If that is true he should be back for next game. Why would you buy Koulibaly? I don't want Chelsea double up but I am seriously considering Fofana at just 4.4M. Playing Chelsea defender at that price should be a steal as first bench option.

I am hoping City and Haaland flop tonight while Salah punishes disbelievers. Otherwise I'll be bottom of all leagues 

i thought it was gonna be a field day for Chelsea, the game were they gonna find their mojo and display proper football with a comfortable win... so naive, this delusion costed me some points and a free tranfer 

Fofana? yeah 4.4M seems like a bargain for a first-team CB playing in a team that sometimes uses the 3-5-2 formation, plus being a 70M transfer could guarantee him plenty of minutes during the fixture congestion,, actually, with the current defence playing like crap i wouldn't be surprised if he goes straight into the starting XI

[Harkorede]

https://i.imgur.com/BQwEAzP.png

wth happened to James yesterday? injury? and Koulibaly was my 'free transfer' for this GW, ffs!

next weekend, Chelsea v West Ham, and i'm not getting my hopes up, Chelsea in this bottom-of-the-league form can lose to anyone, what a great time to have chelsea doubles in the FPL, eh? grim

Now waiting for Pep to save my game week and destroy dreams of Haaland captainers.

i'm relying on City and Arsenal today, but i wouldn't mind more upsets tbh, i'd probably prefer that so that everyone stops earning points 

Best I could find about James is that he had some minor illness and did not travel with the team as a precaution. If that is true he should be back for next game. Why would you buy Koulibaly? I don't want Chelsea double up but I am seriously considering Fofana at just 4.4M. Playing Chelsea defender at that price should be a steal as first bench option.

I am hoping City and Haaland flop tonight while Salah punishes disbelievers. Otherwise I'll be bottom of all leagues 

i thought it was gonna be a field day for Chelsea, the game were they gonna find their mojo and display proper football with a comfortable win... so naive, this delusion costed me some points and a free tranfer 

Fofana? yeah 4.4M seems like a bargain for a first-team CB playing in a team that sometimes uses the 3-5-2 formation, plus being a 70M transfer could guarantee him plenty of minutes during the fixture congestion,, actually, with the current defence playing like crap i wouldn't be surprised if he goes straight into the starting XI

Yeah, No coach/team would splash 70M on a player he/they intend to keep on the bench, and with either Cucurella or James consistently playing at CB for several  week you'll know the Chelsea does need another CB, he's surely going to slot right into the squad, it's not as though there currently is any form of chemistry at Chelsea's backline that will get disrupted, so I agree that he's such a bargain at such price even if it's as a bench player because it would give another dynamic to a manager and you can substitute him in at will.

[casperBGD]

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Now waiting for Pep to save my game week and destroy dreams of Haaland captainers.

as far from this as possible
changed Haaland for Jesus and Rodrigo, could not be more wrong to do that

what about Liverpool, is this definitely sign that this season will not put them into championship fight?
good thing that Villa scored, now Jesus is under pressure to score one more