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September 07, 2024, 03:01:03 PM
 #761

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An obvious sell-out and a moron.
Harris has reiterated several times that she continues to support the idea of ​​taxes on unrealized gains. This is anti-human in itself, but for crypto it is expressed even more strongly and any crypto enthusiast clearly understands this. Anyone in the cryptosphere who publicly supports Harris is a sellout.
I don't know from where I get this confidence that Harris won't defeat Trump. Maybe it's from the fact of what you enumerated above or from my observation that Americans aren't ready yet for a woman to preside over them. If they were, seeing how they loved Hillary Clinton, they would've elected her president in her contest against Trump. She was popular among them, yet they denied her that experience of the White House. I believe Harris will get a severe defeat of her life at the polls come November 5th.

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September 07, 2024, 05:56:55 PM
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An obvious sell-out and a moron.
Harris has reiterated several times that she continues to support the idea of ​​taxes on unrealized gains. This is anti-human in itself, but for crypto it is expressed even more strongly and any crypto enthusiast clearly understands this. Anyone in the cryptosphere who publicly supports Harris is a sellout.
I don't know from where I get this confidence that Harris won't defeat Trump. Maybe it's from the fact of what you enumerated above or from my observation that Americans aren't ready yet for a woman to preside over them. If they were, seeing how they loved Hillary Clinton, they would've elected her president in her contest against Trump. She was popular among them, yet they denied her that experience of the White House. I believe Harris will get a severe defeat of her life at the polls come November 5th.

Harris has already suffered a crushing defeat when she scored a disgraceful 1% in the primaries. The problem is that this story is not about the elections but about possible cheating. If I were sure that the Democrats would not cheat (with mail-in voting as was the case when Biden won), I would have already bet all my free money on Trump. You don't find such easy money every year.

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September 07, 2024, 07:27:07 PM
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Predictors are everywhere which is why it's best to trust your own gut over some random person's intuition. CUT-CUT-CUT

It's always better to trust your instincts rather than the predictions of others. I agree that the race will be close to the end, but I can't tell you who will win for sure. Let's just hope that no more tragedies like the attack on the Capitol happen. Let's root for a more peaceful future.
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September 07, 2024, 07:54:06 PM
Last edit: September 09, 2024, 04:26:44 PM by o48o
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Predictors are everywhere which is why it's best to trust your own gut over some random person's intuition. Personally, I feel that this race will be tight till the end, but Harris will somehow end up winning.

This will lead to Trump and his supporters losing it and probably initiating Capitol attack 2.0 screwing themselves royally in the process. Random prediction!
There's also new schedule, that has been set on the Jan 6th case, which means that there will be new never-before-seen evidence being released by the prosecutors. And depending how bad that is, it can affect the gambling odds.

So trump voters may want to wait for more profitable odds if they think he will win. I sometimes wish i could trade the changing odds with a 100x leverage, like trading futures etc...

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September 07, 2024, 08:38:30 PM
Last edit: September 07, 2024, 10:11:15 PM by STT
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Taxing unrealized gains as a policy is not a moral dilemma, most already recognize politics will do whatever it can get away with & they have no morals.   The most important point is not the policy proposed but the unforeseen effects; the actual changes it could put to investment in the USA is a picture too large to see immediately.

People are ready to throw around this idea like its another talking point to win points when its TNT and could damage far more then recognized.

  If they upset the balance that is in investment structure and manage to discourage capital available to US business it could bring forward a 1930's scenario where harm caused by government is disruptive to the extreme and knocks onto the rest of the economy also.   Once a landslide is started especially with trillions in debt is pre-existing, the damage can be hard to stop.

  The withdrawal of capital counts as deflationary policy, this would raise the cost of debt & bring government closer to insolvency then it already is.  Add in falling tax revenues from a destructive policy and 4 years could be all it takes to tank the USA economy for a generation.

As far as the election prospects and bets go it depends on the beliefs of people as to that policy and the confidence in the general ability of Harris administration to govern with competence.
  Just arguing to choose us is 'less worse' then your opponent is not the strongest manifesto to try and win on, obviously some just wont believe that; it may not be enough to bring out voters reluctant to vote for either candidate.
   I see a possible repeat of Clinton's mistake, hubris in having the popular vote and losing anyway.

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September 07, 2024, 10:03:17 PM
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They could first start with the rich, as they are a minority in the country, then move onto the middle class and then to anyone who holds a bank account...
Bad timing for Kamala to actually go radical on economics.

I have seen many negative comments about Kamala, some say that she wants to implement communism, when did she lose her mind? With the thing about X why does she want to prohibit it, these are things that do not fit for a country like the USA, especially because at a global level the USA was seen as a country of broad freedoms and practically as the world capital, both economically and in any other area, and when politicians get involved in the economy, these things do not fit , I think what you say is the most correct, starting with the wealthiest and going down to the lowest strata.

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September 07, 2024, 10:12:20 PM
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They could first start with the rich, as they are a minority in the country, then move onto the middle class and then to anyone who holds a bank account...
Bad timing for Kamala to actually go radical on economics.

I have seen many negative comments about Kamala, some say that she wants to implement communism, when did she lose her mind? With the thing about X why does she want to prohibit it, these are things that do not fit for a country like the USA, especially because at a global level the USA was seen as a country of broad freedoms and practically as the world capital, both economically and in any other area, and when politicians get involved in the economy, these things do not fit , I think what you say is the most correct, starting with the wealthiest and going down to the lowest strata.
She has always been a more extremist left wing component of democrat party, and that is why the party tried to keep the candidature of Biden for reelection the maximum they could. They knew Kamala's views would be immediately explored and exposed by Trump campaign, what can prejudice her acceptance among americans who have traditional views regards economy and society.

On the other hand, Biden was still able to gain the sympathy from this portion of the country, despite being a democrat and having extremist left wing allies behind him.

The point is that most people don't understand the backgrounds of politics, so politicians use the ignorance of the masses to benefit themselves and to put their plans in practice, doesn't matter if it's going to be good for the country or not, and doesn't matter if most people are adept of it or not.

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They could first start with the rich, as they are a minority in the country, then move onto the middle class and then to anyone who holds a bank account...
Bad timing for Kamala to actually go radical on economics.
Kamala Harris in her recent statements have disclosed policies that should've remained with her till she secures victory at the polls and that I think might stop her from winning against her opponent Donald Trump who's a former president of the US and understands better what the populace wants to hear. Some of the economic policies of current president Joe Biden is facing intense criticisms from the people of the US but few days ago, Kamala defended these policies and even went on to say that she has more to do. You don't expect the electorates to vote you when they're very much aware that if you become president, it'll negatively affect their financial status and engagements.

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September 07, 2024, 11:29:18 PM
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They could first start with the rich, as they are a minority in the country, then move onto the middle class and then to anyone who holds a bank account...
Bad timing for Kamala to actually go radical on economics.

I have seen many negative comments about Kamala, some say that she wants to implement communism, when did she lose her mind? With the thing about X why does she want to prohibit it, these are things that do not fit for a country like the USA, especially because at a global level the USA was seen as a country of broad freedoms and practically as the world capital, both economically and in any other area, and when politicians get involved in the economy, these things do not fit , I think what you say is the most correct, starting with the wealthiest and going down to the lowest strata.


Those kinds of laws are something we would have expected from a country like ours, Venezuela, instead of the "capital of the world" as United States it is, specially Washington.
Still, even if Kamala has those ideas, I would not expect such law to pass through both the house of representatives and the Senate, up to the desk of the presidency, to be signed into law.
People seem to be looking forward to the debate between Kamala and Trump, at this point I would have expected Trump to chicken out and cancel the debate because whatever reason, he has not, though, so I must give some credit to him because of that.

I will certainly watch the debate and at the same time open a window on the computer so I can see how odds on Stake behave as their debate each other on live Television, it could be a good chance to profit before the election actually takes place, if one is good enough to guess who is going to under-perform that night and who is going to get benefited from all of this.

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September 07, 2024, 11:48:11 PM
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They could first start with the rich, as they are a minority in the country, then move onto the middle class and then to anyone who holds a bank account...
Bad timing for Kamala to actually go radical on economics.

I have seen many negative comments about Kamala, some say that she wants to implement communism, when did she lose her mind? With the thing about X why does she want to prohibit it, these are things that do not fit for a country like the USA, especially because at a global level the USA was seen as a country of broad freedoms and practically as the world capital, both economically and in any other area, and when politicians get involved in the economy, these things do not fit , I think what you say is the most correct, starting with the wealthiest and going down to the lowest strata.

Sometimes against Kamala and sometimes against Trump. Followers are making negative comments against opposite parity according to their supportive attitude. But I will agree that Harris is interested in implementing communism. There are various comments about her on social media. A country like the United States needs a skilled politician. Especially if a competent leader does not come then there will be no end to unrest in the world. With what the Biden administration has done, I think any neutral person would have supported him again. Kamala Harris, on the other hand, doesn't seem eligible either. However, different surveys give different opinions. No one really knows who will win and who will be ahead.

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September 07, 2024, 11:55:43 PM
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Predictors are everywhere which is why it's best to trust your own gut over some random person's intuition. Personally, I feel that this race will be tight till the end, but Harris will somehow end up winning.

This will lead to Trump and his supporters losing it and probably initiating Capitol attack 2.0 screwing themselves royally in the process. Random prediction!
There's also new schedule, that has been set on the 6 case which means, that there will be new never-before-seen evidence being released by the prosecutors. And depending how bad that is, it can affect the gambling odds.

So trump voters may want to wait for more profitable odds if they think he will win. I sometimes wish i could trade the changing odds with a 100x leverage, like trading futures etc...


There's a huge probability that the odds could create a lots of hype for trump depending on how each situation works for these candidates. Though it can affect the odds of gambling, but only the final say would be the biggest thing in the end of the race. Several aspects should be considered, despite the support of people on every particular candidates; predictions has no real effect it was just a pure insight and part of speculative projection to hit every bets.

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Trying to predict the popular vote winner is the easiest thing in the world, it doesn't matter if it's Kamala or even if Biden stayed, I bet that the popular vote goes to whoever is the democrat candidate, hell you can make you or me the democrat candidate and people would vote for us and popular vote would still be won. But as long as you do not win those few swing states, nothing will change and republicans could still win.

In theory, you can get 10+ million votes, and still lose, would be very hard of course, but not impossible, which shows how crooked the system is, and if I were a democratic candidate, I would make it a bit more fair. I am not saying get rid of the EC, that system worked so far, just make it more fair, like get rid of millions of votes difference mean nothing part, make it worth something. Thus far, Trump could still win if he gets a few states on the swing right now. Kamala has to win a lot of swing states if she wants to win.

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September 08, 2024, 06:23:05 PM
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The intrigue may persist until the last moment, but if we weigh different factors, then I would bet on Kamala's victory, although this is by no means obvious at this stage. Moreover, not for reasons of sympathy or antipathy of one of the parties, but solely for the purpose of winning the bet.


If you evaluate the chances logically, then Trump had more time to win the sympathy of voters, I'm not trying to include any sympathy in this choice, it's just a calculation. Trump is leading a more aggressive campaign and I don't know if Kamala is ready for this, I remember a recent interview where after a provocation she simply stood up and left the studio, and Trump stood still after being shot in the ear. I also don't know what's true or not, but it seems to me that for now Trump is leading in this race.

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Let's discuss the likelihood of each candidate winning the election, events, as well as which platforms offer this market for crypto-enabled bets.
To my own prediction strategies, i prefer to pick teams with little odds if I am really not good in the game analysis.
If we can think deep, we would understand that even the casino bookmakers who may either have good teams analytical skills always gives underdog teams higher odds to tempt greeds gamblers to hugely multiply their stakes while given the strong teams low odds because there are chances of them to win.

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September 08, 2024, 11:52:01 PM
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So looking at the bookmakers chart board here, recalling in reality that Donald Trumps is most influential in the era of the anticipated election, there comes high possibilities that Donald may win followed by Joe Biden before others are considered based of media speculations and so much their odds differs too just as sighted with a good strategic winning.
That was before but long time ago Joe Biden has already conceded this race and gave up his candidacy already.

He has shown his support to Kamala Harris. So, this presidential election is now about Kamala Harris and Donald Trump although there are still a lot of names in there.

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Taxing unrealized gains as a policy is not a moral dilemma, most already recognize politics will do whatever it can get away with & they have no morals.   The most important point is not the policy proposed but the unforeseen effects; the actual changes it could put to investment in the USA is a picture too large to see immediately.

People are ready to throw around this idea like its another talking point to win points when its TNT and could damage far more then recognized.
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This idea is a total nonsense, what happens is that its potential voters either do not understand the consequences or think that it will only affect the rich, when nothing could be further from the truth, it would have a global negative effect on society.

One thing that is not usually mentioned, which adds to the nonsense is that you file your taxes in April. And it could be the case that you have $100K in an investment that has grown to $150K on December 31 and when you file taxes in April you will have to pay for those $50K of capital gains, but by April there may have been a market downturn that leaves you with only $30K, so you no longer have any gain and you are forced to sell what little you have left in order to be able to pay.

It is economic suicide.

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News update.

It appears that there were billionaires that did not like this capital tax gains proposal by the Biden administration which was also supported by Kamala Harris hehehehe. Kamala has announced that she will lower the tax. However, I am skeptical that this will be part of Kamala's agenda if she is victorious. Politicians work for the billionaires who are the real rulers of your country. These politicians do not like to make them unhappy.



Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris is planning to propose a less drastic increase in the top capital gains tax rate, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with the matter. The move, if taken by Harris, would break with a plan outlined by President Joe Biden in his budget earlier this year, the newspaper reported.

Source https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-pare-back-bidens-capital-gains-tax-proposal-wsj-reports-2024-09-04/

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I dont want and like to turn into direct politics discussion, but from the moment it was decided to replace Joe Bined with Kamala Harris, I think it was clear that Trump is going to win this race. You cant just promote Biden all the time, and on the finish line replace him. Not an expert in US history, but I dont remember that a woman was ever a president of the US. Again a signal for Trump. I dont know if it is possible to cheat during election, but it is clear for me that it is going to be Trump. However, I am not going to bet on US or any president election. I dont want to "earn" or peoples future. Who know what Trump second presidentship would be. What if his first decree would be a war against everyone, and I have earned with winning bet selecting him. That is not for me.

There hasn't been a woman president in the US, so if Harris wins, it would be historic.

For the same reason I think it's quite difficult that a woman would become president in the US, but also Trump has a lot of people against him.

But also a lot of people support Trump.

It's going to be quite difficult to predict I think.

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I dont want and like to turn into direct politics discussion, but from the moment it was decided to replace Joe Bined with Kamala Harris, I think it was clear that Trump is going to win this race. You cant just promote Biden all the time, and on the finish line replace him. Not an expert in US history, but I dont remember that a woman was ever a president of the US. Again a signal for Trump. I dont know if it is possible to cheat during election, but it is clear for me that it is going to be Trump. However, I am not going to bet on US or any president election. I dont want to "earn" or peoples future. Who know what Trump second presidentship would be. What if his first decree would be a war against everyone, and I have earned with winning bet selecting him. That is not for me.

There hasn't been a woman president in the US, so if Harris wins, it would be historic.

For the same reason I think it's quite difficult that a woman would become president in the US, but also Trump has a lot of people against him.

But also a lot of people support Trump.

It's going to be quite difficult to predict I think.

Democrats want to sell that since they know they are way behind Trumps influence and they want people think that if they going to vote for Harris then people will be part of historic changes in US. That's why this is the result happen and now Harris is leading in surveys. But this is close fight between two politicians and democrats is doing a right thing for replacing Biden since right now they see good changes between each result done by presence of Harris.

Its not quite difficult for woman to became a President since after all Harris got a lot of experience and for sure he can handle well the job if he successfully won the presidency. But no one can determine who's gonna win in current set up so let see what will be the result of this election if Trump will dominate or America will create a history then put a women in charge to lead their country.

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